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Suns vets edge Grizzlies 107 - 102

It's appropriate on Veterans Day to review the difference a few year's experience can make when it comes time to win a game. Suns fans are seeing the payoff of all those blown games over the past 5 years as our veterans (including the still youthful Diaw, Barbosa and Amare) show the young cubs how it's done. Smart plays and lock down D.

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With the game tied at 100 with just over 2 minutes to go the Grizzlies got a put back when Marc Gasol battled Amare for a board tipping it to Gay for the easy dunk (a rebound that the Suns would have had if Shaq hadn't fouled out).

With the Suns down by 2 with 1:30 left Barbosa hit a three which put the points on the board but most importantly we held the Grizz scoreless for the final stretch of the game.

 

And while Barbosa's three gets credit let's not overlook that the Suns also missed two other three's in the final two minutes and it was the defense that won this game.

 

Star-divide

Work. In. Progress.

Despite a very encouraging record and some early positive signs, this is a Suns team that very much is in need of more time together. The silly turnover's continue and there isn't much flow offensively and without Shaq on the floor Porter is going small which doesn't please me. I want to see more Lopez.

But first, let's give Iveroni and the Grizzlies some credit.

They played the Suns as well as anyone this season on the front line. "Holding" Amare to 18 points on 6-13 (sub 50%!) and only giving him 6 tries from the line. He made all six bringing his hit rate to 88% for the year. That's good for 26th in the league but his 83 attempts are good for #2 behind only Dwight's 86 attempts (he only made 52%) and giving Amare a wide lead in free throws made (73).

Time out. See what happened right there? I started that paragraph writing about how well the Grizzlies interior defense looked and how their activity made the Suns entry passes look down right pathetic and I ended up gushing about Amare's free throw prowess. That's how dominant the guy is.  He takes over games. He takes over blogs about games. He's the MVP.

A Few Final Bullets Before I Get Fired for Blogging While Working

  • Whatever that agent paid OJ Mayo wasn't enough
  • How good would the Mayo / Al Jefferson pairing look right now in Minnie? They can't be Loving that deal (there should be a Kevin Love pun drinking game)
  • I wonder if that "steal" the Laker's pulled off might not look so egregious when it's all said and done. Marc could be the better Gasol bringing the toughness and banging that any team needs along with a touch of the Pao from outside
  • The Suns showed the balance they are going to need to win some games and why they are still a very dangerous team
  • Let's hope this is the start of something for LB. I am not even close to being sold on that though. He's going to have to deliver a lot more then one great (scoring) game. But I am also patient given his ailing mother and missing training camp
  • How good has Boris been this year? Loving it!
  • Nash?
  • And let's give it up for Goran Dragic's best game yet. He looked a lot more confident and as Eddie Johnson said he finally punished guys for riding him so close. He's going to have to earn respect in this league and last night was a tiny step forward.
  • The Cut Goran Dragic blog isn't buying it though

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Yikes,

I am seriously being influenced by the Cut Goran Dragic blog.

Suns Re-ignited.

by ZonaFlash on Nov 11, 2008 10:17 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Someone could just as easily

Make a cut Steve Nash blog. Stupid idea + Too much time = that blog.

by hcblankscreen on Nov 11, 2008 11:38 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but I know better in that case.

The only thing saving Goran from being cut in my opinion is that I think the sample size is too small, too early and that he’s the only player that doesn’t play alongside Steve Nash.

Otherwise, I’d be calling him Sarunas.

Suns Re-ignited.

by ZonaFlash on Nov 11, 2008 11:43 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I am underwhelmed but patient

On the TeeVee the other day they compared Dragic minimal stats to Nash’s 1st year numbers. Similar.

I don’t know if we have 5 years to wait for this kid though but we certainly need to give him more then 5 games.

Btw -

Stupid idea(s) + too much time = All Blogs

by Phoenix Stan on Nov 11, 2008 12:13 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

problem is that anyone can compete with Nash's first year stats.

Alongside those stats are a trajectory that few can reproduce. Is Goran going to be a gymrat like Nash?

Suns Re-ignited.

by ZonaFlash on Nov 11, 2008 12:41 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Score one for the Deficits!

Up to now the Minimum Men (Barnes and Hill) have thoroughly outplayed the Human Trade Deficits (Boris and Barbs – millions going overseas, nothing coming back). Today, despite the defensive props, I feel I can safely say we do not win this game without the Deficits.

To borrow a page from Wormwood at phxsuns.net, I’m not impressed. The only good team we have played, we got smoked by the Hornets. Sorry, the Spurs are creaky OLD right now. If we can dump the Rockets, I’ll be impressed.

April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?

by Hawk42 on Nov 11, 2008 12:04 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

Haha that made me laugh.

Rockets are a bit underwhelming these days as well.

Lakers, Hornets, Celtics. Are there really any other scary teams out there?

What is scary is that I can’t tell if the Pacers and Grizz are good or if the Suns are bad.

Suns Re-ignited.

by ZonaFlash on Nov 11, 2008 12:40 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Both

I never really thought we would lose those games. Those are talented teams but they are not yet winning teams.

As for the Rox – I agree that its a good measuring stick for us. They are a good team and in theory we should be happy to be on the same level as them and Utah right now.

Most people including me had us one rung below that with the Mavs and Raptors at the start of the year.

We’ve got a long way to go but I doubt we are better then Houston right now. This game should be a toss up. Which means it will be a blow out.

by Phoenix Stan on Nov 11, 2008 1:35 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

U sure?

I agree that Houston will be a great test, but it’s far to early to tell if either team is better than the other one. They sure look good on paper but so do we…No?

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Nov 11, 2008 7:22 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Saying the same thing

I don’t think either team is clearly better then the other right now.

by Phoenix Stan on Nov 12, 2008 8:34 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Sure, cut Goran Dragic.

Let’s just get rid of our young players and draft picks. It’s worked so well the past few years.

by Azreous on Nov 11, 2008 12:11 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

agreed.

getting rid of our draft picks and young players has led to really good things…as in a team that everyone thinks (and rightfully so, to be honest) will break down near or just after the all star break.

good call with the blog, champ. way to cut the kid (who’s been improving every game) some slack.

by iamtrevorpaxton on Nov 11, 2008 9:52 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Keep Dragic, don't panic

You’ve got to give him a whole season. We have

A new system
new parts to integrate (Dragic, Lopez, Brnes)
Old parts that are struggling with the offensive changes(Nash, Bell, Barbosa)
Old parts that are playing better (Shaq, Amare)
Old reliable (Hill)

Let’s see what we are saying in January, at least. A 6- record is fine.

April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?

by Hawk42 on Nov 12, 2008 4:23 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

The Gasol Bros.

Marc Gasol is really opening some eyes this season, and you’re right that by the time all is said and done that Pau Gasol trade last year might not seem lopsided at all. I actually think Javaris Crittendon still has a good future in this league as well, even if it’s not on Memphis (who are logjammed at PG). Even if Marc does turn into an All Star though, that trade really was good for the Lakers who didn’t need another young center since they already have Bynum, and with Kobe now being 30 they are much better off with a guy who can contribute for them at PF now. But it is starting to look like the trade really will have benefited both teams quite a bit as the Grizz look poised to really develop into something serious in the next couple of years.

by WildYams on Nov 12, 2008 9:54 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Yup

and welcome back Yams

by Phoenix Stan on Nov 12, 2008 10:34 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

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