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The Shaq Sock Puppet

Recently this blog was had by the oldest trick in the Internets. The Sock Puppet.

We reported (somewhat gleefully) that Shaq followed up his outstanding performance against the Bucks with a Twitter launched dis-fest at fellow professional athletes and fine men both - Erick Dampier and Andrew Bogut.Shaq_sock_puppet_medium

Here's the so-call Shaq Twitter feed.

After some suspicions were raised about the authenticity of this slam I did some digging and can't find anyone in the Suns organization that will confirm this is in fact Shaq's tweets. Shaq won't return my calls (maybe because I don't have his number). 

Of course, it should be known that this feed has repeatedly been referenced by yet another Twitterer known as PhoenixSunsGirl.

Phoenix Suns Girl - who in real life is the Digital Media Research Director for your Phoenix Suns - follows the sock puppet Shaq feed and promotes it. I am guessing that a certain over priced water company is behind all this. 

The real shame is that the Suns organization is threatening its credibility by promoting this sponsor's impersonation of one of it's players in a way that does impact and disrespect the game. All joking aside. That's a load of stinky crap.

The lesson here is not to trust what you read on your cell phone and be wary of this new media fad. And to unsubscribe from misleading disinformation campaigns.

Sincerest appologies to Mr. Shaquille O'Neal for disrepecting your good name and accusing you of insults you did not comit (although you can't blame us for immediately beleiving that is something you would say).

 

Star-divide

[Note by Phoenix Stan, 11/11/08 2:50 PM PST ]

Here's the response left in the comments from Amy Jo Martin - Suns Digital Media Director. Aka PhoenixSunsGirl.

Obviously, what Shaq decides to do with his own endorsements is his deal. I’m not endorsing Vitamin Water by re-tweeting; same goes for all of my re-tweets to other Suns Fan tweeters.
 
Let me know if there are any other theories out there, I’d be happy to set the record straight. And, in the interim. Go Suns!

In response to my question if Shaq had Tweeted the insults himself or if this was a corporate sock puppet dis:

I wish I had the answer for you here, but I don’t. The Phoenix Suns have nothing to do with Vitamin Water as it is not a Suns organization marketing partner. Therefore, I do not have any info. If, in fact, it was Gatorade or Verve Energy drink I could possibly be more help because those are two of our rad marketing partners, whom we love integrate into the Suns digital vibe. You can get on Twitter and ask the Shaq tweeter on the other end? They’ve been responsive by re-tweeting to Suns fans.

So, basically we don't know if the "person" Amy Jo has been tweeting with is Shaq himself, a Shaq corporate sponsor sock puppet, or some combination of both. Or perhaps neither.

Shaq slamming other players, coaches, team mates and female rapper - nothing new there right.

A company that Shaq owns a stake in and is a spokesman for doing so on his behalf in a deliberately deceptive way with at least the tacit approval of a Suns employee (who is not otherwise motivated by a rad marketing deal with said company) all just seems wrong.

But I guess I am the only one that cares if our team's star is being used as a vehicle to promote overpriced water by insulting other players and disrespecting the game.

And for the record - Shaq or Sock Puppet? I still have no idea what the real answer is.

This is all very confusing to me and I can't help but feel deceived regardless.

Welcome to the brave new digital media world.

 

[Note by ZonaFlash, 11/11/08 6:20 PM EST ]

 

First, it was very kind of PhoenixSunsGirl to come by and share at least what she knows, even if that really hasn't resolved much for us regarding who called Bogut an emasculated Ericka Dampier.

Stan, not sure what you mean by

But I guess I am the only one that cares if our team's star is being used as a vehicle to promote overpriced water by insulting other players and disrespecting the game.

Definitely I feel the same, but more so about the possible deception rather than by who to blame for the trash talking.  I fully support trash talking by everyone including bloggers and marketers hiding behind a Shaq twitter. 

On the other hand, Shaq has lost a lot from his trash talk, including fan respect and the role of sheriff in Arpaio's posse.  Maybe someone else fanning the flames at his expense is wrong.

However, take this a step farther.  If you can't trust Shaq's twits and tweets, who's to say Shaq was the one texting threats to female rappers?   What can you trust unless you see it yourself on NBA League Pass or youtube?

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Shocking News.

Great research Stan. It is shocking the way Shaq is being misused by the Suns organization like this. All to push some crappy brand of vitaminated bug juice.

Capitalism gone a bit far. Are you going to confront PSG on this? I think you should. Or I should.

BTW, I’m a little thirsty. How about some

Suns Re-ignited.

by ZonaFlash on Nov 11, 2008 11:28 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Pythagorean Theorem

So, he didn’t say that?

I figured it was just a texting-typo that should have read, “Our offense is like the Pythagorean Theorem. I don’t know the answer.”

“Digital Media Research Director” sounds like someone who should have passed sophomore geometry class, though.

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Nov 11, 2008 11:33 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

I've had some conversations with her

and she seems like a decent person for sure. I can’t imagine why she would reference Shaq’s Twitter given than it’s as fake as fake can be. I expect this ‘imposter’—whoever it is—to be banned from the service sometime soon.

by Ryne Nelson on Nov 11, 2008 12:08 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

thanks a lot for the perspective, Ryne.

If it were fake, you would think a marketing director would be suspicious, given how loaded with ads it is.

However, I’ve found that Shaq is not just on the Vitamin water payroll, he is a partner and owner in the company.

Shaq The Latest To Sign With vitaminwater
O’Neal Latest Athlete
To Join vitaminwater
Glaceau’s vitaminwater has signed Heat C Shaquille O’Neal to a deal that will include the marketing tagline "Size Matters (When You’re Thirsty)," according to Sarah Talalay of the South Florida SUN-SENTINEL. O’Neal, who will become a partner and investor in the company, will appear on 32-ounce bottles of the power-c flavor. The 32-ounce bottle "reflects O’Neal’s jersey number," and O’Neal becomes the fourth vitaminwater endorser to appear on bottles with their numbers on them, joining Bears LB Brian Urlacher (No. 54), Red Sox DH David Ortiz (No. 34) and NASCAR driver Kasey Kahne (No. 9) (SUN-SENTINEL.com, 4/18).

Suns Re-ignited.

by ZonaFlash on Nov 11, 2008 12:30 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Other notable minority owners of Glaceau

Donovan McNabb, Allen Iverson, Tracy McGrady, Ray Lewis, LaDainian Tomlinson, Brian Uriacher, David Ortiz, 50 Cent.

30% owned by Indian conglomerate Tata Group, who bought in for $677 million in 2006.

Suns Re-ignited.

by ZonaFlash on Nov 11, 2008 12:54 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Tata!

Those bastards are a competitor of mine!

Although I am guessing a lot people can say that since they are a HUGE conglomerate involved in pretty much everything.

by Phoenix Stan on Nov 11, 2008 1:10 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

A note to Suns Fans from PhoenixSunsGirl

Hey there, it’s me, the actual PhoenixSunsGirl. Just a heads-up, my goal is to give Suns fans a different perspective and keep you posted with what’s going on at Planet Orange. Also, I try to learn more about Suns fans wants and I’m constantly asking for feedback. If you review all of my tweets, I think you’ll agree. Full transparency here. (Also, not to mention the fact that I’m a huge Suns fan. Rightfully so.)
 
If you look back at Shaq’s tweets, you’ll see that the majority are from Vitamin Water and in fact, one references “Shaq Tweets sponsored by Vitamin Water”. They even have a few tweets where he is giving updates from the bench. Obviously, what Shaq decides to do with his own endorsements is his deal. I’m not endorsing Vitamin Water by re-tweeting; same goes for all of my re-tweets to other Suns Fan tweeters.
 
Let me know if there are any other theories out there, I’d be happy to set the record straight. And, in the interim. Go Suns!

by PhoenixSunsGirl on Nov 11, 2008 1:59 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

So, the simple question is...

and thank you for dropping by btw to clear this up

Which of Shaq’s tweets are his and which aren’t and specifically was the comment about Bogut and Dampier Shaq or a Shaq sock puppet?

by Phoenix Stan on Nov 11, 2008 2:09 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Tweets? Sock Puppets? Fake Tweets?

I think we I need a tutorial and/or smart person to dumb person translator.

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Nov 11, 2008 2:22 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I wish I had the answer for you here, but I don’t. The Phoenix Suns have nothing to do with Vitamin Water as it is not a Suns organization marketing partner. Therefore, I do not have any info. If, in fact, it was Gatorade or Verve Energy drink I could possibly be more help because those are two of our rad marketing partners, whom we love integrate into the Suns digital vibe. You can get on Twitter and ask the Shaq tweeter on the other end? They’ve been responsive by re-tweeting to Suns fans.

by PhoenixSunsGirl on Nov 11, 2008 2:26 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

I am a bit confused then

Perhaps I am just too old but I got the impression from your tweets that it was the “real” Shaq on the other end of the line. Comments like this:

@ShaquilleONeal Nice game on Sat., btw. You had a little pep in your step, eh? Glad to have you guys back home. Go Suns. 7:23 AM yesterday from web in reply to ShaquilleONeal

Given your role w/ the team isn’t fair for us to assume that you were talking to the player Shaq and not a stand in. This is all very confusing for my generation. I am feeling quite old today. Help a geezer out.

Do you think it reflects well on the team to have a corporation disrespect other players and the game by pretending to be a Suns employee/player?

by Phoenix Stan on Nov 11, 2008 2:34 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Don't Mind Him

Stan’s been a mission to destroy Shaq since the trade.
All those planted stories about lawsuits …
Not calling Amare out for dissing the Bobcats last year …

You’d think he was talking about something important like the Donaghy/FosterStern conspiracy that I can’t let go.

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Nov 11, 2008 2:38 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Really, though

I can’t follow the discussion because I’m not sure about these terms (see my note above) — except for Pythagorean Thereom.

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Nov 11, 2008 2:50 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Sock puppet = pretender

From wikipedia (that’s an online reference source. Online means…oh hell)

A sockpuppet is an online identity used for purposes of deception within an Internet community. In its earliest usage, a sockpuppet was a false identity through which a member of an Internet community speaks while pretending not to, like a puppeteer manipulating a hand puppet.1

Tweets are ways to deceive people into thinking something that’s not true.

No, that’s not right.

Tweets are little messages sent via Twitter.

by Phoenix Stan on Nov 11, 2008 3:14 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

So,

According to the non-verifiable internet encycolpedic source, a sock puppet is kind of like a 21st Century Cyrano de Bergerac? Or, is Shaq playing the part of Christian? The water company is Cyrano?

Do you need a computer to use twitter or can you text from a phone or blackberry or something?

Then, there’s something else about replying to twitter in there? Tweetback?

I’ll try to figure it out on my own.

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Nov 11, 2008 3:23 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm getting closer

So, twitter is something like a blog but “written” (if that’s the word) more like a text message?

Therefore, if you get internet access on your phone you can “text” with anonymous persons? It’s not like texting with someone you know — just like blogs really aren’t “talking” with someone you know.

Anonymous text messaging? Add that to viral marketing and my new enterprise should be a hit. Kind of like when Homer instructed athletes on how to celebrate after scores and wins.

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Nov 11, 2008 3:42 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Imagine

how this will change the Scottsdale night club scene you are so fond of…

by Phoenix Stan on Nov 11, 2008 3:45 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

My concern is that I feel deceived by the whole process.

I don’t care if Shaq trash talks or if some Wizard of Oz is behind the curtain issuing insults at other players from a tweeter.

It’s that the source seems misrepresented and falsely advertised. It’s like digital lip-synching.

Suns Re-ignited.

by ZonaFlash on Nov 11, 2008 2:43 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

It wasn't Shaq?

It seems somewhat inappropriate to have someone smack-talking for him. Unless he’s paying writers to come up with smack-talk like the Chinese Fortune Cookie Writers from The Simpsons.

That would just be cool. Think about it — dozens of out-of-work English TAs (guys with Masters’ degrees that couldn’t get into the Ph.D. track) chained to desks to tweet smack-talk on behalf of ballers. This could be a profitable cottage industry.

All unemployed Literature majors looking for a new career, send me an email with your resume, transcript, three letters of recommendation and 5 one-liner samples. I have a new career opportunity for you.

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Nov 11, 2008 2:56 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

I'm still confused ... but interested

In the meantime, I’d request that adjectives like “rad” and other Duff-Man like commentary be left to rah-rah sites like planetorange.net. Oh, yeah!

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Nov 11, 2008 2:36 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

I second that!

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Nov 11, 2008 2:39 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks a lot! But I'm confused too.

Should I drink Gatorade, Verve or Vitamin Water?

What if I like diet coke??? =(

Suns Re-ignited.

by ZonaFlash on Nov 11, 2008 2:37 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Technical Question:

Should Messages from Twitter be called Twits or Tweets?

=)

Suns Re-ignited.

by ZonaFlash on Nov 11, 2008 4:10 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

This one cracked me up
On this team, we a team of big dogs. Amare? Big Dog. Grant Hill? Wise dog. Barbosa? One of those dogs that catches frisbees at halftime

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Nov 11, 2008 6:53 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

5:05 PM Apr 9th from web
I’m like toilet paper, Pampers and toothpaste. I’m definitely proven to be effective.

Suns Re-ignited.

by ZonaFlash on Nov 11, 2008 7:05 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Not vitamin water

There is no way Vitamin Water is pushing this blog. In the supposed entries, it states that Shaq is a pepsi guy and that vw is owned by pepsi. Anybody who knows anything about pop culture would immediately realize the red flag here and notice that Vitamin Water is a subsidiary of Coca-Cola, not Pepsi. I highly doubt Vitamin Water would be pushing a website yet claiming to be owned by their competition

by LSoffer9 on Nov 12, 2008 4:53 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I guess

the Suns Director of Digital Media is as clueless as I am about pop culture and this whole internet fad thing.

That makes me feel better. Older. But better.

by Phoenix Stan on Nov 12, 2008 5:29 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

National Buzz

The investigative media will get to the bottom of this. They’ve never failed.

There’s a future for this twitter thing. It could be bigger than the internet … or computers.

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Nov 12, 2008 8:25 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

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