Rockets vs. Suns: Quantum of Disappointment
by ZonaFlash on Nov 12, 2008 1:38 PM MST
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Houston Rockets at Phoenix Suns, Nov 12, 2008 8:30 PM MST
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| 6-2 | 4-3 | |
| 7:30 PM Mountain/10:30 PM Eastern | ||
| TV: ESPN, FSAZ | ||
| Probable starters: | ||
| Steve Nash | PG | Rafer Alston |
| Raja Bell | SG | Tracy McGrady |
| Matt Barnes |
SF | Ron Artestosterone |
| Amar'e Stoudemire | PF | Luis Scola |
| Shaq |
C | Yao Ming |
Can there be a more disappointing team than the Rockets? Loaded with talent, striking fear in opponent's head coaches, rattling off a historic 22-game win streak, being touted this year as a top team. In fact, the Houston Rockets have been forecast far ahead of the Suns this year, having made one off-season splash (Ron Artest) after another (Luis Scola). And let's not forget they picked up Brent Barry for nothing. In most cases, the Rockets have been rated as an elite team, while the Suns are not even ranked in the top 10. For example, ESPN ranked Houston at 6 and Suns at 11.
While 4-3 is nothing to sneeze at, the Rockets are poised to disappoint this year once again. One wonders how a team loaded with great talent, proven coaching and covet-inducing young bigs like Carl Landry. But that's just it. Anything less than title contention for such a team should be disappointment. For whatever bizarre reason, this team is lesser than the sum of the parts. Sure, they may figure out how to play with Artest, but that doesn't explain how the team seems to play better when one of its stars TMac or Yao Ming don't play. That 22-0 run didn't require both stars on the floor to make it happen.
There's no question the Rockets are top team, but they are biting at the cusp of eliteness without having yet achieved it. The respect they earn is in expectation of achievements they have yet to grasp. Tonight they meet a team biting on the cusp of eliteness, one whose achievements are fading in the rearview mirror of NBA pundits and fans. The respect they earn is an afterglow of those achievements and with every new win, comes the breath of thousands of bloggers, "yeah, but their window is closing."
Is it really?
Check out the Dream Shake perspective here.
Check out the Vegas Summer League King stuff Yao Ming at the rim...
Score one for the little guy!
Better yet, how about a Free Throw chucker as bad as Shaq? Here's Chuck Hayes' Motivational Video!
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wouldn't you be able to same about the suns, though?
there is no question that we have been a top team in the west for nearly 5 years. but, with that being said…we’ve never quite made it over the hump. sure, we had some bad breaks along the way (amare injured, the sp*rs suspension fiasco, hill injured, etc.), but we’ve never quite grasped that ever elusive title.
and, everyone may be saying “yeah, but their window is closing” about the rockets…but what are they saying about us?
that being said, i think tonight’s game is going to be very interesting/entertaining. i think the rockets and the suns are on a closer plane than most everyone at ESPN/[insert blog title here} give us credit for.
by iamtrevorpaxton on Nov 12, 2008 2:19 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
actually that was my point
The window closing was about the suns, not the rockets.
One team had it’s day in the elite circle and tries to hold onto that, the other is trying to get there. They meet in the middle, on the edge of it.
And yes, the suns could be called disappointing, but not via people’s expectations this year.
Suns Re-ignited.
by ZonaFlash on Nov 12, 2008 3:04 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
that's what i thought, but just had to clarify.
i think the suns have surprised and silenced (for the most part) most of the preseason critics. though, we haven’t exactly had the toughest of schedules so far, aside from the fact that we’ve already had 3 back to backs.
we’ll see what happens on this next 5 game stretch.
by iamtrevorpaxton on Nov 12, 2008 3:12 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
absolutely right
The suns have moved up in people’s power rankings and done well given transition issues, road trips and back-2-backs.
They have stunned anyone, but shows small, promising signs of life in their play as well as their record. They are still far from a dominant team, but generally bad teams start the season strong and then fade, the good teams just keep getting better.
We’ll see which we have.
Suns Re-ignited.
by ZonaFlash on Nov 12, 2008 3:23 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
i have faith.
i have faith in both porter’s system and the ability of our guys to adapt and make it work. we’ve got 3 all-stars in the starting lineup, and we’ve got explosive bench players, young talent, and all rounded off by veteran leadership.
i know i’m preaching to the choir, but…i’m not as nervous for the season as i was prior to opening night.
by iamtrevorpaxton on Nov 12, 2008 3:38 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
things have really turned out better than many people expected, including me
Suns Re-ignited.
by ZonaFlash on Nov 12, 2008 3:55 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Yao
I think a big part of the Rockets questions (no pun intended) is Yao.
He’s been down right mortal so far this season.
One has to believe that his feet, ankles, tree trunks are not holding up very well.
We all know how I feel about Shaq but right now I would take the Big Cactus over the Great Wall
Blogging Suns Basketball
by Phoenix Stan on Nov 12, 2008 2:43 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
must be tired from the olympics.
Suns Re-ignited.
by ZonaFlash on Nov 12, 2008 3:06 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Can't get enough of this video
I love the 5’9" Vegas Summer League Inagural Jersey Retiree blocking the big fella at the rim
Blogging Suns Basketball
by Phoenix Stan on Nov 12, 2008 2:47 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
The problem with the Rockets
has always been injuries. I like their team. They have great pieces to make it to the finals but something always happens along the way. T-Mac or Yao injured, Batier.
They have a good coach, good system and they can match well against any team.
I don’t blame ESPN or anyone who might have jumped on their bandwagon, they sure look good on paper
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
by PanamaSun on Nov 12, 2008 2:51 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I didn't want to say that, but yeah. No kidding.
The scandalous part is how well they’ve played when one of those guys is off the floor.
Suns Re-ignited.
by ZonaFlash on Nov 12, 2008 3:06 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
that's the anomaly right there.
who’d think that a team would actually play better without one of its superstars on the court? if the rockets don’t go far in the playoffs this year, do you see them trying to shop t-mac or yao?
by iamtrevorpaxton on Nov 12, 2008 3:10 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Chuck Hayes FTs make me happy
That is some fucked up shit right there! hahhaha!
Suns Re-ignited.
by ZonaFlash on Nov 12, 2008 3:53 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Everyone drinks when he makes one.
Suns Re-ignited.
by ZonaFlash on Nov 12, 2008 3:54 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha, I didn't know chuck was that bad!
My grandma can swing better than he can.
Suns Re-ignited.
by ZonaFlash on Nov 12, 2008 4:35 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Nate Robinson
The best part about it is where Yao bends over and looks like he’s crying.
We need more vids of the rim stuffs, though. Robinson’s block was cool, but that’s more along the lines of “amzagin little guy stuff” than “how the hell can’t a 7’7” dude get over the rim?" stuff.
Mmmmm ... Guinness
by JSun on Nov 12, 2008 4:07 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Block of the year so far
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC6LaQdASQ0
Irrelevant, but awesome.
by hcblankscreen on Nov 12, 2008 4:14 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
that was nice, HC!
Suns Re-ignited.
by ZonaFlash on Nov 12, 2008 4:35 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Sweet
Robin’s block on Deng the other day was pretty cool to. Leveled him.
Blogging Suns Basketball
by Phoenix Stan on Nov 12, 2008 4:36 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
we need of the clip where he missed the dunk
Suns Re-ignited.
by ZonaFlash on Nov 12, 2008 4:36 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Tonight is the Suns 1st real test
Ok, the opener @ Spurs followed by Hornets in Phx wa tough, and the Suns got a split, but the Spurs have really gone into the tank thus far. I’ve been delighted to mark all these early wins, but the reality is that those teams, even on the road, are not in the Suns class. All those games were ones that the Suns should win, “re-tooling” or not.
Now the schedule toughens up and we will see how they respond. That said, I’m not buying Rockets stock and haven’t all summer, even with Artest. He’s a loose cannon and a serial free-lancer, however talented, and McGrady is just like his cousin Vince: an all-world talent with a heart as soft as tissue. If he’s feeling it, he’s capable of domination, but that doesn’t happen all that often.
by SoCalSun on Nov 12, 2008 4:42 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
yep, if we win, we beat a 0.500 team. If we lose, we;ll definitely feel sucky no matter how great the Rox actually are
I’m afraid no matter what happens, I’ll feel anticipointment. But I’ll enjoy the plays of the game, nonetheless.
Suns Re-ignited.
by ZonaFlash on Nov 12, 2008 5:08 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
i'm going to the game.
a friend just called me with two tickets he got for free, section 110, row 19, seats 3 & 4.
i’m pretty amped.
by iamtrevorpaxton on Nov 12, 2008 5:51 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
righteous!
Bring back some pix!
Suns Re-ignited.
by ZonaFlash on Nov 12, 2008 5:54 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
will do.
i’ll do my best to get some good shots. i’ll probably post a fanpost or something, a little later.
by iamtrevorpaxton on Nov 12, 2008 5:59 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Battle of the Slugs
I don’t know why this didn’t occur to me sooner but we are for a real treat tonight.
The two biggest, slowest players in the entire game. Yao can hit his free throws but Shaq can still dunk the ball. Sometimes.
Look for at least 4 weak side blocks on Ming from Amare, Barnes and Hill.
Blogging Suns Basketball
by Phoenix Stan on Nov 12, 2008 7:09 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Energy
Interested to see how our energy level is tonight. The East Coast trip was exhausting and you could tell by our lack of motivation (minus Barbosa) on Monday. No excuse tonight for coming out lazy.
It's Ba-Nash. It's a no brainer.
by Suns Ben on Nov 12, 2008 7:28 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Bell complaining
I heard Bell on the radio today complaining about the offense. He said something like “we are a running team and we don’t know what we are doing which is leading to turn overs”.
I am pretty sure that Bell should keep his mouth shut and learn the new system and remember that he’s not exactly a franchise player.
Blogging Suns Basketball
by Phoenix Stan on Nov 12, 2008 8:07 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Damn Right!
And if he wants to, he can still run to the corner and set up.
Porter was saying that the players aren’t pushing it up hard enough sometimes (especially after makes) and this makes it take too long to get into the half-court. After all, it takes a good twenty seconds to makes all those cuts and come off all those screens and stuff. He’s just pouting because he doesn’t get to jack up as many shots anymore. No wonder Mike Antoni was always afraid of upsetting him with not enough minutes.
Any South Park fans?
Bell = Saddam
Antoni = Satan
Other 4 Suns on court = 4 foul-mouthed kids
Porter = Canadians
Actually, I’m really only sure about the first 2
Mmmmm ... Guinness
by JSun on Nov 12, 2008 8:20 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
As crabby as Bell has been so far,
I think we have to consider him a suspect for running that Cut Goran Dragic blog.
by Azreous on Nov 12, 2008 8:45 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Bell and Nash
have to some extent been complaining about how they want to go back to a more run-n-gun style. so far the media has passed it off as “suggestions” rather than complaints. if i didnt know better, i’d think they were a bunch of divas. jsun, we do need to compare our team to a tv show or movie, if for no other reason than to get page views, lol. i like south park, but what about the mighty ducks trilogy? barnes and bell as the bash brothers. nash as charlie conway, the leader who has been declining and will eventually become a coach. amare stoudemire as adam banks, the awesome player who battles injuries and plays with the varsity (team usa), barbosa as the fast cuban kid who cant stop…
by Suns' Sensei on Nov 12, 2008 8:42 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Great Start
let’s keep it up!
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
by PanamaSun on Nov 12, 2008 8:53 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Looking better
The offense looked a lot better to start. Bell missed a few open 3’s and Amare missed a few but they were a lot more fluid getting Shaq the ball in good position. They were running some cross cuts to get him open and then he was also able to beat Yao down the floor to get deep.
Yes. That’s right. Shaq beat someone down the floor.
Even though the game tightened I likie
Blogging Suns Basketball
by Phoenix Stan on Nov 12, 2008 9:01 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Lopez got jobbed
on that block…he’s impressive how fast he can recover, elevate and swat
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by Phoenix Stan on Nov 12, 2008 9:03 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
WOW
TP sounds just as articulate as DAntoni during the TO.
Suns Re-ignited.
by ZonaFlash on Nov 12, 2008 9:04 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
What's up with that tie?
Come on Porter. That’s a tuurible tie!
Blogging Suns Basketball
by Phoenix Stan on Nov 12, 2008 9:10 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
There is no "style" in team
Go purple!
Mmmmm ... Guinness
by JSun on Nov 12, 2008 9:14 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
No way
I have a like three awesome rad purple ties that don’t look like my grandfather threw them away
Blogging Suns Basketball
by Phoenix Stan on Nov 12, 2008 9:32 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
that's it
I am registering www.extenddragic.com
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by Phoenix Stan on Nov 12, 2008 9:10 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice to see the kid make a few jump shots!
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
by PanamaSun on Nov 12, 2008 9:07 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
We'd include Jazz fans over at our site, but No Lakers/Spurs is good by me too
by UofTOrange on Nov 12, 2008 9:15 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Whats with the Jazz hate?
Suns Re-ignited.
by ZonaFlash on Nov 12, 2008 9:20 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm the propreiter of TheDreamShake.com, a Rockets fan site here on SBNation.
There is no team I hate more than the Jazz. There are no fans I dislike more as a whole than Lakers fans.
But I like you guys. It’s a shame that you keep getting screwed out of the finals
by UofTOrange on Nov 12, 2008 9:21 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I hate the Jazz a little because its SLC and Sloan, but not so much
Why do you hate them? =)
Suns Re-ignited.
by ZonaFlash on Nov 12, 2008 9:24 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
BTW, I'm fingering my ban button =)
Suns Re-ignited.
by ZonaFlash on Nov 12, 2008 9:24 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
The Rockets just had too many head to head games in the old days with them
Plus, they have broken my heart 2 seasons in a row in the playoffs
And Karl Malone is, well, I have nothing nice to say about him or John Stockton
by UofTOrange on Nov 12, 2008 9:26 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Hah, good to know a bit about that rivalry
Suns Re-ignited.
by ZonaFlash on Nov 12, 2008 9:30 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
At least
the rim didn’t stuff Lopez on that one
Mmmmm ... Guinness
by JSun on Nov 12, 2008 9:18 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Jesus!
I think my 4 year old cousin can score on Nash! Sh*t!
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
by PanamaSun on Nov 12, 2008 9:24 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
everybody does that on Nash
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
by PanamaSun on Nov 12, 2008 9:25 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
everbody does that on Dragic too.
Suns Re-ignited.
by ZonaFlash on Nov 12, 2008 9:26 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't help
that Shaq can’t come and trap on that screen. What’s Nash going to do? Go through Yao?
Blogging Suns Basketball
by Phoenix Stan on Nov 12, 2008 9:26 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
You are right
I’m bitter today…that’s all. Nash is awesome
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
by PanamaSun on Nov 12, 2008 9:30 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
BTW, Aaron Brooks is 5'10 and he just blocked Grant Hill
by UofTOrange on Nov 12, 2008 9:27 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
yikes. Grant is almost as tall as yao
Suns Re-ignited.
by ZonaFlash on Nov 12, 2008 9:29 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Come on, that was an awesome block by our midget!
Of course, I do get tired of hearing about little guys blocking Yao
by UofTOrange on Nov 12, 2008 9:30 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Not goaltending?
The ball was about as far out Hill’s hand as when Fropez got called for a goaltend
No … not really
Mmmmm ... Guinness
by JSun on Nov 12, 2008 9:31 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
thats why i was big on talking about chuck's FT shooting
that makes me happy
Suns Re-ignited.
by ZonaFlash on Nov 12, 2008 9:31 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
What?
you mean this?
Blogging Suns Basketball
by Phoenix Stan on Nov 12, 2008 9:33 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Grant is MIA
Not sure why he’s in the game instead of Barnes.
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by Phoenix Stan on Nov 12, 2008 9:30 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't been able to see one of your games this year
Has he been struggling? I thought he was great for you guys last year.
by UofTOrange on Nov 12, 2008 9:32 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
he's old and rickety
kinda like a Fiat. speedy but cranky
Suns Re-ignited.
by ZonaFlash on Nov 12, 2008 9:37 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Surprised Shaq didn't call Yao Ming a big woman
Suns Re-ignited.
by ZonaFlash on Nov 12, 2008 9:28 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Artest is really struggling with his shot.
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
by PanamaSun on Nov 12, 2008 9:31 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
His shot selection has been horrible
by UofTOrange on Nov 12, 2008 9:33 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
His shot maktion has been horrible
Blogging Suns Basketball
by Phoenix Stan on Nov 12, 2008 9:34 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
And don't let it be said that I'm not fair
That was an AWFUL call on Barnes
by UofTOrange on Nov 12, 2008 9:35 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Nash hasn't been looking good shooting either
Suns Re-ignited.
by ZonaFlash on Nov 12, 2008 9:35 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
That wasn't a foul on McGrady, but then again, it was more of a foul than it was on Barnes
by UofTOrange on Nov 12, 2008 9:38 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I was posting on account of Barnes fumble of the ONeal pass
but what weak half!
Suns Re-ignited.
by ZonaFlash on Nov 12, 2008 9:40 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Our guys are having trouble scoring
Amare needs to get going…not looking good.
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
by PanamaSun on Nov 12, 2008 9:39 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
He needs to take a jumper
He’s driving and, fortunately, not committing charges, but he needs to take that shot b/c they’re giving it to them.
Mmmmm ... Guinness
by JSun on Nov 12, 2008 9:41 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Hack-a-Hayes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Suns Re-ignited.
by ZonaFlash on Nov 12, 2008 9:41 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I just looked this up out of curiosity
Chuck Hayes and the worst shooting form in the history of free throws : 56.9% career FT shooter
Shaq: 52.5%
That’s just messed up
by UofTOrange on Nov 12, 2008 9:44 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Avery Johnson?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
by PanamaSun on Nov 12, 2008 9:43 PM MST reply actions 2 recs
lol
rec that one up boys!
Blogging Suns Basketball
by Phoenix Stan on Nov 12, 2008 9:44 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Let's not forget
The Spurs actually retired Avery Johnson’s jersey
by UofTOrange on Nov 12, 2008 9:46 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
All things considered
not that bad.
Amare will get going.
Nash looks awful. 7 points in 17 minutes.
Dragic with 6 points in 6 minutes.
Start Dragic. Bench Nash!
And I don’t understand why you Dream Shake fellas hate on Rafer so much. Not b/c of this right?
Blogging Suns Basketball
by Phoenix Stan on Nov 12, 2008 9:47 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
It's mostly because he has a game like this where everything goes his way
Then other people see it and think he’s good, then he thinks he’s a good shooter. He’s not a good shooter. He then proceeds to shoot 22% for the next 5 games
by UofTOrange on Nov 12, 2008 9:49 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and he's shooting 29.1% on the year and 25% from the 3
by UofTOrange on Nov 12, 2008 9:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
So - he's another
in a long line of guys that only shoot well against the Suns.
Blogging Suns Basketball
by Phoenix Stan on Nov 12, 2008 9:51 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
You get that
We are the team that everyone comes back from injury or suspension against. No idea, but I swear that’s always the case
by UofTOrange on Nov 12, 2008 9:52 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I have to ask. I just read the game post above.
Could it be anymore disappointing? Yes, we could have dominated the league multiple years and then not won a championship ;-)
by UofTOrange on Nov 12, 2008 10:05 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Jesus Christ McGrady
What happened to your 0% on FG.
by hcblankscreen on Nov 12, 2008 10:05 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
no offensive rythm at all..
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
by PanamaSun on Nov 12, 2008 10:05 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Please coach
Let them run! Run Forest Steve Run!
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
by PanamaSun on Nov 12, 2008 10:07 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Ugh, bench Bell
Can’t hit, can’t watch a gimpy McGrady.
by hcblankscreen on Nov 12, 2008 10:12 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Ok, I think I've figured it out
The Suns are losing because they keep missing shots. All they have to do is start making shots.
Blogging Suns Basketball
by Phoenix Stan on Nov 12, 2008 10:15 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Jesus chirst!
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
by PanamaSun on Nov 12, 2008 10:20 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
plenty of people will not be playing the next game
Suns Re-ignited.
by ZonaFlash on Nov 12, 2008 10:23 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, McGrady's a bitch
He saw what Barnes did put pushes Nash down.
by hcblankscreen on Nov 12, 2008 10:23 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
McGrady just jumped from “somewhat liked” to “hated” on my charts.
by brian13 on Nov 12, 2008 10:48 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Lets see if this gets them fired up...
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
by PanamaSun on Nov 12, 2008 10:24 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Barnes, Nash, Mac, Shaq all bitches
Suns Re-ignited.
by ZonaFlash on Nov 12, 2008 10:25 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Pushing is for bitches
Those guys who push never throw a punch. Shaq probably deserved 3 or 4 techs for those shoves from behind?
Mmmmm ... Guinness
by JSun on Nov 12, 2008 10:31 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
That was fun
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by Phoenix Stan on Nov 12, 2008 10:26 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
buckets and buckets of fun
I'm just like you, only ten times better.
by noonoo on Nov 12, 2008 10:30 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
If te game was close, if the game mattered, then fine
but down 20 that was just a bitch move
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by ZonaFlash on Nov 12, 2008 10:27 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I have no idea what a hurt Nash was doing rushing in there. I know you are a good teammate, but that's just stupid
by UofTOrange on Nov 12, 2008 10:29 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah nash is getting a bad rep for stepping into fights
if he didn’t make a run at 610 robert horry, no fight and no suspensions for leaving the bench
Suns Re-ignited.
by ZonaFlash on Nov 12, 2008 10:31 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
This seems to have gotten Nash fired up...
Half court shot… Come on… lets go!
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
by PanamaSun on Nov 12, 2008 10:29 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I don't get LB
breaking Nash’s arm. Let the man go if he wants to go.
Blogging Suns Basketball
by Phoenix Stan on Nov 12, 2008 10:29 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Barnes Pulled an Horry
Was the hit on? That’s how you deal with a guy smoking you? I guess Bell has to go after T-Mac now (if Bell could catch up to him)
Mmmmm ... Guinness
by JSun on Nov 12, 2008 10:30 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
hoping for a clothesline?
Suns Re-ignited.
by ZonaFlash on Nov 12, 2008 10:31 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
What does Shaq’s Twitter say about this scrum?
Mmmmm ... Guinness
by JSun on Nov 12, 2008 10:32 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
They took the three off...
Dammit!
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
by PanamaSun on Nov 12, 2008 10:33 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Good Yao is Beating Good Shaq
Mmmmm ... Guinness
by JSun on Nov 12, 2008 10:37 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
We gotta stop the clock
go to the foul line..
What is it with the Suns that everyone that its on a slump plays the game of his life against them… LORD.
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
by PanamaSun on Nov 12, 2008 10:38 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
No bench
I guess Shaq and Nash can take tomorrow off
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by Phoenix Stan on Nov 12, 2008 10:39 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
T-Mac at the 2
in the past the Suns could guard T-Mac w/ Marion or Hill but there’s no way Bell or LB can cover him. That’s what Artest does.
I would like to have seen Barnes and Hill together on the floor. Or even Diaw at the three w/ Barnes or Hill at 2.
Oh well. Next time.
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by Phoenix Stan on Nov 12, 2008 10:40 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Rockets
have played very good D inside and the Suns outside shooting sucked
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by Phoenix Stan on Nov 12, 2008 10:42 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
another game, another time hurt from the arc
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by ZonaFlash on Nov 12, 2008 10:42 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
It is so frustrating...
You are losing by a bunch of points… and you bring the ball down the court almost crawling!! What is it with Porter and his reluctance to Run???!
He said that the team would still run… I’m not seeing that.
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
by PanamaSun on Nov 12, 2008 10:47 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
i would think it has more to do with Kerr
and less with Porter. As a less experienced coach I would assume he would do whatever it took to please his bosses. Porter ran a ton when he played for Portland when Adelman was coaching.
Honor Terry Porter
by Philthyanimal on Nov 12, 2008 11:02 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Rotations
Porter’s not really sticking with his rotations (not just this game). If the Suns were losing but Dragic et al. were getting decent “crunch” time and practice in “pressure” situations, I’d be better with it.
When Kerr said there’d be some ugliness at the beginning of the season, I figured he meant the reserves.
What, though, does it say about Porter’s “commitment” to this new “system” when he’s running the first-stringers ragged in a horrible loss and not getting any rotation players into the game to help them grow?
Mmmmm ... Guinness
by JSun on Nov 12, 2008 10:48 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Now, they're in there
Put the bench in at garbage time.
Way to let them learn.
Mmmmm ... Guinness
by JSun on Nov 12, 2008 10:49 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Hubie: 0 fastbreak points for the suns in a home game
I’d say our transformation is complete.
Suns Re-ignited.
by ZonaFlash on Nov 12, 2008 10:52 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Not Quite
A true master would’ve capitalized on the move by Cheap Shot Barnes and figured out a way to win the game. Too bad he didn’t take a swipe at TMac in an attempt to get him ejected, too. That would’ve been cooler.
At least Barnes was delivering on his promise to be a 3-point threat. Oh, right. His career shooting stats have caught up to him
Mmmmm ... Guinness
by JSun on Nov 12, 2008 10:55 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
thats kinda sad
suns basketball was by far the most fun to watch in the nba these past few years.
Honor Terry Porter
by Philthyanimal on Nov 12, 2008 10:59 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
No wonder Bell and Nash have been asking to run more
Porter has to understand that this is a running team. He can call half court plays whenever he wants but there’s got to be a balance. What is the most common thing to do when down by many points? R-U-N!
Drive in to the basket, try to get the foul, score easy and fast points!
What does he do? He posts up Diaw and Dragic walks the ball up the court….are you kidding me?
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
by PanamaSun on Nov 12, 2008 11:04 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
TMac and Nash
Looking at the reply again, he unnecessarily threw little Stevie to the floor. Nash ran in too fast and really wasn’t helpful, but TMac didn’t need to throw him down.
Nash kind of created a hockey-type scrum, when Altson and Barnes probably could’ve been separated.
Mmmmm ... Guinness
by JSun on Nov 12, 2008 11:05 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
You can tell that Nash is Frustraded
He didn’t want to let Alston go, he was probably thinking “I could lay his ass down….this time the guy is my size!”
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
by PanamaSun on Nov 12, 2008 11:08 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
ARG!!!!!!
With all the damned open shots in the world and we miss all of them.
Also why in God’s great name are we not going to STAT down low?
All I saw was him taking jumpers….all night long.
Man the Suns need to figure out their new offense.
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
by Turambar on Nov 12, 2008 11:09 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Listen people
What we saw tonight was clear demonstration of the slippery slope between corporate sock puppet insults and complete chaos on the court.
For the love of all that is holy about our game this must end now.
Stop “Shaq” tweets!
Blogging Suns Basketball
by Phoenix Stan on Nov 12, 2008 11:13 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Good effort everyone
At least on the thread
Blogging Suns Basketball
by Phoenix Stan on Nov 12, 2008 11:26 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Night everyone
It’s 1:25 am… gotta go to work tomorrow….
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
by PanamaSun on Nov 12, 2008 11:29 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
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