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Of Punks and Patience

That hammering sound you hear. That's not the window slamming shut again. That's the sound of work. As in work in progress.

Cliches tend to be overused (by definition) but in this case I am willing to give it a few more weeks.

While the loss to the Rockets was disappointing and left a bitter taste, here's 5 reasons not to jump off the bridge just yet:

But first, take a listen to Coach Porter and Matt Barnes reflecting on the team and game.

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1) Welcome Phoenix Bad Boys. For I don't know how long (at least since Chuckster was here) the Suns were a soft team. We got pushed around and as fans and players and coaches whined about it and played the victim. Last night Matt Barnes showed why we brought him here. A tough edge. He was pissed about something and pissed about getting beat and he laid out Rafer.

Yes, it was a cheap shot. But not a Bowen sneaky stick my foot under you or knee your balls cheap shot. It was a manly cheap shot. It was a clean hit in the course of play and he didn't run from it. He didn't act the punk wagging his finger or running his mouth. He didn't Melo-slap and run. He laid the wood and sent a message. Sometimes, that's what men need to do.

Nash showed again why he's the toughest Canadian in the NBA and Shaq of course is not going to let anyone push him around (he's just going to push everyone over).

2) Defense. We are not there yet. We have a BIG hole in the middle that can't move his feet very well and our point guard(s) aren't exactly lock down. There's a long way to go but a) the team is talking about it and b) the rebounding rates are up while the points in the paint against are down.

Ben's Phoenix Suns Blog and Yahoo's Kelly Dwyer break it down. I am in the middle. Progress has been made. More will come.

Yes, Rafer and Brooks shot the ball well in the first half and T-Mac in the second. But if those guys are going to make 15 foot floaters and hit everything rolling off screens you just sometimes tip your cap.

T-Mac presents match up problems for us at the 2 guard. In the past we covered him w/ a small forward but with Artest on the floor you can't do that. There's no way Bell or Barbosa can stay with him in the post. Then once he got hot....

The Rockets are good (when healthy) and they played well. It is not the end of the world. We are still a 6 or 7 seed that needs to be playing our best ball in the spring.

3) Scoring the ball. Despite what you might have seen last night, this team can score the ball. They can still shoot. They can still dunk. And occasionally they can even make open dunks (yes Robin, we did see you miss that dunk).

The offense is confused and the fella's are thinking too much. That is entirely understandable and it will improve. I said all along that this team will struggle early and guess what. They are struggling early. They are still beating the bad teams and they still have talent. But it is going to take time. Last night was a measuring stick and we learned that we don't yet measure up.

The ball movement isn't. Worse yet is the without the ball movement. There is no instinctive sense of where people are going to be and everyone is trying too hard.

But they are trying hard and the plan is a good one. I don't believe that anyone in that locker room is ready to quit even though a few of them (named Raja) should probably talk less and hit more open shots. Or some open shots even.

4) The Dirty. Really now, can any team that provides this kind of quality family entertainment be bad?

5) Better then expected. If you had asked any Suns fans how they would feel about a 6-3 start they would be happy.

So be happy. It could be a LOT worse.

 

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Yeah I got to say this loss made me very frustrated, but it’s 9 games in. In case anyone remembers two years back we started out the season failing at life, and then things started to click and the Suns went on a roll.

This time is of course by no means similiar, but I still feel that things will begin to click for this team…i just dont know when.

Porter is trying to cement his ideas and the Suns are trying to follow them, and in both cases there will be problems. So for now it’s a matter of the players growing comfortable to the NEW and Porter finding an offensive ballance.

Time will tell, time will tell.

"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness

by Turambar on Nov 13, 2008 4:27 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Beef with Porter

My main beef with Porter right now is that he’s not sticking to his guns. If this was truly a “work in progress” and no a D’Antoni-like attempt to win every game, then the second string would’be got more than garbagte minutes at the end of the game.

What, exactly, are they working on, then?

His rotations are all over the place and he’s sending mixed messages to the bench. I don’t mind a 19 point deficit if Dragic, LB, Hill et al. are learing to keep the boat afloat while Nash sits, but that’s not what happened last night.

Thank the basketball gods we’ve at least got the dirty. I suppose Barnes will be there soon.

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Nov 13, 2008 8:22 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

About the rotations

The rotations are going to be different every game pretty much. Porter is running match ups, so depending on who they have on the floor, Porter is going to want a certain line up out there. I think he needs to be a little bit more flexible when somebody’s heating up or when someone’s playing especially good D.

We need to play the best players we have if it means winning or losing the game, especially against a team we’ll most likely be seeded next to. Our vet’s minutes are still down compared to last year, and as the bench improves they’ll get more minutes. I mean, think about if you’re Porter. This team at least has to make the play offs, they have to. Do you sacrifice early season wins to get the second unit experience, or do you cut the second units minutes and get yourself some cushion?

I agree that the second unit isn’t getting enough play (especially Diaw, Barbs, and Hill), but the starters need to get them more cushion so they can stay out on the floor.

by hcblankscreen on Nov 13, 2008 9:25 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Rotations

I am not seeing the problem here. The minutes look well balanced and I certainly think that Porter is a match up type coach. As is the Zen Master. He’s also only 9 games in and had a 3 games without a starter and 1 game without two starters.

I think the Rockets rotations were different in that he left the starters in longer in the 3rd/early 4th but I think he was giving them the chance to cut into the lead and get a rythym. I am not sure what would have happened if they had managed to make the game close b/c that would have racked up some serious Burn for Nash and Shaq but I think that was an unusual circumstance.

Overall, with a few minor exceptions, I think the rotation patterns are clear:

First sub is Diaw for Shaq at about 7 or 8 minutes. Then in the last minute or two of the first Dragic, Hill and LB come in. Sometimes Amare plays with the 2nd unit and sometimes Lopez comes in. That’s really the only deviation is at center. Again, I think that’s about match ups and also easing the rookie into the season. I would like to see him play a bit more and I think we will.

In the 3rd period its pretty much the same pattern. We have seen Hill and Barnes on the floor together instead of Dragic but again, I think that’s about Goran getting more comfortable and we have seen improvement over the past two games.

I am not seeing the inconsistent problem that JSun is. Can you provide evidence counselor?

by Phoenix Stan on Nov 14, 2008 7:21 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Matt Barnes:

I thought you had to throw a punch to get thrown out of a game, really." Reaaaalllly, Matt Barnes? Reaaalllly? That’s what I like about you though. You provide out team with a certain toughness. Just don’t screw us over by doing it in the playoffs.

by Suns' Sensei on Nov 13, 2008 10:30 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I don't really see anything manly about a cheap shot.

Either way it’s just bad basketball and it’s unnecessary.

by rsavaj on Nov 14, 2008 9:35 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

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