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Response is Critical

As anyone that knows me can attest to, my mood is generally reflective of how the Suns are doing as a whole.  This would include any off-season moves, wins or losses, reaction from how they played, injuries etc. – the list could go on.  Sure, it’s somewhat pathetic and ulcer-inducing, but that’s my life and I’m pretty set in my ways.   

So, naturally, seeing the Suns get picked apart by a Laker team that shot 47% from both the field and three-point line, this was my initial reaction:

After the swelling subsided, I convinced myself this could be a good thing for the Suns in the long run. 

Star-divide

Here are the things we learned last night:

 

Okay, those points are probably obvious.  But, sometimes you don’t see things until you see them.  The Lakers game exposed every single one of our weaknesses.  But, this is a good thing and we must show through our play the next few games that we are learning from this. 

 

Here’s how…

 

  • We need to come out pissed and ready for retribution.  Like we just got destroyed on national television by the defending Western Conference champions who we love to hate and is the best team in the NBA and hasn’t lost on the road all year and also has the MVP. 
  • Show that Shaq has a bigger role on offense, but isn’t the entire offensive philosophy. 
  • Give Amare and Boris more touches in the post.
  • Run.  Allow Nash to work in the open court.  He is too good not to have that opportunity.
  • Spread the floor, even in a set offense.  Last night there were a number of times where players ran into each other and cluttered the lane.  This makes it waaaay too easy for the opposing defense, especially for an outstanding defensive team like the Lakers.
  • The coaching staff needs to show they have the capability of making better in-game adjustments.
  • Winning.  Losing three in a row can be defeating early in the season, especially when the team is confused and a work in progress.

So, I am choosing not to go insane with anger or rush to judgment.  I’m nowhere near calling for any heads, wanting any trades, or looking to the draft.  Instead, let’s see how they respond in the next few games with their play.

 

Let’s give them a chance to be resilient.    

 

[Note by Phoenix Stan, 11/21/08 9:36 AM PST ]

 

I am going to piggy back this awesome post with the audio from last night's game.

 

I will also add my own No Hand-Wringing warning by reminding Suns fans that we knew this team was going to take some time and not to be so quick to jump to conclusions or abandon The Plan.

 

As much as the past was great, it wasn't working either and needed a change. Nash CAN NOT run the offense for 35mpg / 82 games and still have a hope of being effective come playoff time. He knows this as well as anyone even if his competitive spirit wants to try and take over each game.

 

There's a bigger picture here to think about and let's also not forget that we are missing Barbosa's 15ppg off the bench and combined with Tucker's injury is messing with the rotations. My only gripe is that I want to see more Lopez and less Shaq.

  • When Nash talks about the offense being different he IS NOT SAYING that is should go back to the way it was.
  • When Shaq talks about playing in-side out he IS NOT SAYING that all the touches should run through him
  • When Bell talks about not hitting open shots he IS SAYING that he needs to keep making his open 3's (47%) and stop trying to pretend he's Kobe shooting of the dribble 

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Good post, gents.

I’m hoping that come playoff time we look back on these bumps in the road and say, “Man, it was a good thing the team ran into those problems back then.” I’ll take struggling in game 9 over struggling in game 89 any day of the week.

(Yes, I know that wasn’t game 9. Humor me.)

by Azreous on Nov 21, 2008 11:15 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

lol @ Bell

and I 2nd the more Lopez wish.

It's Ba-Nash. It's a no brainer.

by Suns Ben on Nov 21, 2008 11:18 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

It's Over

I’m done with the Shaq-flavored Kool-Aid. Stop pretending it’s going to get better.

It will not get better until Shaq is primarily a defensive lane-clogging rebounder who occassionally makes an open dunk or lay-up.

It will not get better until Amare stops whining every time he thinks — or actually is — fouled and there’s not call (he had some valid complaints on non-calss but then started flopping around like a fish).

It will not get better until LB starts in front of Bell. I’d say, “It will not get better until Bell realizes his only offensive capability is to take wide-open spot-up 3s,” but Bell is too hard-headed to realize the truth. Therefore, he needs to sit.

It will not get better until either (1) Singletary grows a couple of inches or (2) Dragic finds his huevos.

It will not get better until Hill learns how to play coming off the bench.

It will not get better until Barnes realizes he is a career 32% 3-point shooter.

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Nov 21, 2008 11:33 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Be calm my friend

I agree there are some very anoying and worrisome things going down, but Ben and Stan are right when they say it’s too early to cry panic.

I think things will start falling into place, whether or not that will make the Suns a contender remains to be seen, but they will find a consistancy.

As for LB starting I agree. This team needs a bit of an insurance policy in the starting five should the others come out cold on O. Even if his D is subpar I think it’s way past time for him to start.

Also on the point of moving the ball into the post I agree Shaq needs less touches, or atleast less emphasis on getting him the rock early and often. In fact I think we need more of Shaq and STAT working together in the post rather than feeding Shaq for a while and then trying to get STAT going. And when Shaq is out there is no reason why Diaw and STAT should not be working it down low every trip down.

Overall though there is no cause to panic yet and this is a far better start to season than anyone expected. I’m shocked that considering all the changes that we are not a couple games under .500 or even worse.

So put away that samurai sword folks and calm down. We wont have any clue what this team really is until at least the All Star break

"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness

by Turambar on Nov 21, 2008 12:12 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Panic. Everyone panic.

I’m only picking on things that don’t seem like they’re going to change.

None of the rose-colored glasses analyses focus on this stuff. These problems (and other similar ones) are staring the Suns in the face, but all anyone can talk about is getting into better rhythm using Shaq in the post. The amount of energy trying to work him into the game is not justified by his offensive output.

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Nov 21, 2008 12:36 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with that

Less Shaq. More Lopez.

I do kind of like going to Shaq early early to a) see if he happens to be hot that night like he was in Milly-walk-kay and b) see if he can draw a couple of quick fouls of the other teams big.

Causing foul trouble will help Amare later

But – if he’s not on (which is most nights) then I want to see more Robin to take up the Defensive load and not be such a ball stopper on offense.

But that is my only really “tweak”.

by Phoenix Stan on Nov 21, 2008 12:42 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

More bitterness

Correct me if I’m wrong, but Nash and Stoudemire are still the top two offensive players on the Suns roster, right? Any offense trying to run through the Big Fat Ass instead of those two is ill-concieved.

And, why do they keep running Bell of screens like he’s Rip Hamilton or Reggie Miller?

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Nov 21, 2008 3:39 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Top Two - not only two

as for Bell…do you really think they are running plays for Bell or Bell is just heaving up shots knowing that Porter can’t bench him right now.

by Phoenix Stan on Nov 21, 2008 3:49 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

He's chucking

He’s definitely chucking up shots knowing he’s got a stranglehold on two-guard with LB and Tucker out.

However, at the beginnig of the season (not so much last night), they kept running that curl for him. Coach D almost always ran it as the first play of the game. I don’t know the technical jargon for the play, but they’d run him around two picks (one on eitehr block) and he’d curl around near the elbow for a jumper. I hate that effing play.

Come to think of it, I haven’t seen too many plays called for him. Maybe Porter is reading my rants.

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Nov 21, 2008 4:00 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sort of OK with how Shaq is being used, but yes, where is Lopez?

I think the real issue with Shaq having so many touches is that the other players do not seem to be in sync with him—even when he was dropping 30ppg, Shaq has always been a willing and very capable passer. Many of his turnovers are the result of the other Suns not being positioned to receive those passes. Grant Hill seems to find himself open the corner pretty frequently, but…that’s outside his range, as we know.

As far as Shaq/Lopez, I would like to see Lopez in a bit more with the 1st unit (with Amare and Nash in particular), and with Shaq in the 2nd unit there is an outlet and easy target for Dragic. Not saying start Lopez, just mix up those substitutions a bit. Getting Barbosa back will be very helpful.

by SoCalSun on Nov 21, 2008 1:07 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

A lot of roles have been changed

Hill coming off the bench, Raja not getting all of the open looks, Nash no longer dominates the ball, and a bench that for the most part gets used.
 Team is just in a tough transition and playing the best team in the league doesn’t help.
I agree getting Barbosa back will help, amazing how much this team now really misses his offense.
 Still have hope for this team, not down yet.

"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"

by Grockcubs on Nov 21, 2008 3:17 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Good test Saturday

If Thursday’s test was against the best then Saturday’s is even more important.

The Blazers have been playing a lot better since we last saw them. After losing to Utah and LA this is a sorta must win.

by Phoenix Stan on Nov 21, 2008 3:25 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Yup

Gotta come out angry and crush them like bugs

"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness

by Turambar on Nov 21, 2008 3:53 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I kind of miss last year

When the lakers killed you guys and you guys just shook it off. Those were some good times.

Shaq:"The kobster, he's an assassin" Answer for who should be mvp.

by ldeep on Nov 21, 2008 5:27 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

But there was hope

Last year we shook it off because we had a chance. A good one. Doesn’t look like it this time.

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Nov 21, 2008 8:55 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Same thing was said last year

before the trade

then people said after the trade that we did have a chance

turned out we didn’t have a chance

I am willing to chance it

by Phoenix Stan on Nov 22, 2008 8:51 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Besides

what choice do we have? The Clippers?

by Phoenix Stan on Nov 22, 2008 8:52 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Response

Was a little unhappy with the turnovers but a good win going into OK and MN.

It's Ba-Nash. It's a no brainer.

by Suns Ben on Nov 22, 2008 9:28 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

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