Open Gameday Thread: Suns @lakers
by ZonaFlash on Dec 10, 2008 6:21 PM MST
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PrintPhoenix Suns at Los Angeles Lakers, Dec 10, 2008 8:30 PM MST
 Phoenix Suns |
 The LA Lakers |
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| 13-9 | 17-3 | |
| 8:30 PM Mountain / 10:30 PM Eastern | ||
| TV: ESPN, FSW | ||
| Probable starters: | ||
| Steve Nash | PG | Derek Fisherious |
| Raja Bell Leandro? |
SG | Kobe Bryantus |
| Grant Hill |
SF | Radmano |
| Amar'e Stoudemire | PF | Pau Gasolio |
| Robin Lopez |
C | Andrew Byzantium |
Don't forget to pack your clotheslines, here come the lakers.
Unlike the Suns who took care of bidness last night, the best team in basketball just got punked old-time division rival but now bottom-feeding SacQueens. In the Yahoo! Game Notes,
Lakers sixth man Lamar Odom admitted the team may have looked past Sacramento in anticipation for the meeting with Phoenix.
Lamar then went on to compare the SacQueens to "Westchester High School."
Anyway, expect the lakers to be hungry - catching them off-guard ain't gonna happen this time. They love them national showcase lights, provided by ESPN. Here are the ESPN Game Notes. ESPN's accuview givs us a 19% chance of stealing the game but that's high given that Shaq is out and the Lakers are ready.
I look forward to seeing our team get back to its running ways and getting some more burn with our small lineup. May the Barbosa Barnes and Bell shoot the lights out and Lopez, Diaw and Amare hold their own.
I won't argue if the Bash Boys wipe the deck with a few laker jerseys.
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SSOL is the only way we can beat them tonight.
And limited bench play, please. Their bench could beat a couple starting lineups, and our bench lost us the game last time.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Not looking forward to this
After getting owned by the Kings last night I expect the Lakers to come out and be ready to destroy us. It’s sad to say but this team has yet to truly jel yet, and until they do they will find it very difficult to go toe to toe with the Lakers. Not to mention a lack of Shaq, though I doubt he would have performed that well in the second game of a back-to-back.
Now should God smile upon us and we do win, well then I will be in bliss for weeks on end and will buy a very large victory cigar. That though will probably have to wait.
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
Hate the Fakers
Lakers can be beat – Looks like Kobe went back to the me-me-me game. The Lakers are not good enough to win consistently if Kobe doesn’t get his mates involved. Jackson was able to get the Bulls to stop watching ichael, you can bet he will do the same for Kobe. Maybe he gets kicked out for something.
April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?
Luck the Fakers
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
yeah I saw that!
I looked at the box score. I saw Kobe’s normal 28 but the rest of the team didn’t do shit.
I only realized later that they didn’t get any shots. If Kobe misses, he simply takes more shots. Way to go man. Keep that average.
Window Closed? Shit, just break it then.
The Big Ego
From Coro’s blog:
“Sometimes I get that amount of shots, sometimes I don’t,” said O’Neal, adding that it is fine for him to have fewer shots as long as the Suns win.
“If I get the opportunities, those are the numbers you can get from me.”
When O’Neal was on 29 points in the fourth quarter, the Suns had a fastbreak off a Richard Jefferson miss. Boris Diaw threw ahead to Leandro Barbosa for a layup but both ignored O’Neal, who had sprinted downcourt was not too happy about not being rewarded. The house would have come down for a Shaq dunk on the break.
Mmmmm ... Guinness
SUNny and spectacular
just like always. A day like this makes you wonder why people live anywhere else. Like Minnesota, eh?
By the way, the local radio scrubs here are quite incensed with the lackluster effort the Fakers put forth in Sac-town last night. Very entertaining, but bad timing for the Kings to wake the Kobettes up just prior to the Suns game.
Also, in regards to Barbosa and Diaw ignoring O’Neal—there is a case to just make the simple play (which they did), but Shaq was open, and running, and right there, it’s pretty common basketball wisdom that you reward the big man when he runs the floor, and another Shaq dunk certainly would have looked good. I thought the same thing as Coro when I watched the play—they should have gone to Shaq.
Or good timing for Reggie Theus
It probably depends on which point of view you have on this.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
SUPER confident
Call me crazy, but I think we could rock the Lakers tonight and not just win. Last night’s match showed our team getting on the same page and breaking out of teir funk. People were finding their shot and getting into rhythm. And with the Diesel not playing tonight, there’s no reason to not jump out the gate and run. Last nights game was practice for tonights game.
If this J-Rich to Phoenix stuff is true
Then Boris/Raja/Sean aren’t playing tonight.
BLOWOUT CITY
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Wierd Things
Always happen on trade days. This may have been the best thing that could’ve happened for the Suns.
Mmmmm ... Guinness
Any given day anybody can win
If you don’t believe this, then you won’t understand why Marc Stein called the Kings beating the Lakers last night the most improbable victory of the season.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
yeah
if they’re not playing tonight then things are going to get gruesome. If they are playing, they better still play ball. This is national tv and we’re playing the Lakers. You wanna make a statement, you do it tonight.
Built in excuse(s)
the game is meaningless unless we win
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by Seth Pollack on Dec 10, 2008 4:58 PM MST up reply actions
and even if we do win
it wont be as much of a victory as it would be a loss for the lakers. They’d be much more pissed about losing than we’d be happy for winning. If the lakers lose, they have NO excuses.
Were going to be thin tonight......
I like the games where we are not supposed to win….You find out who has heart.
Whose is going to step up and smack the Lakers in the face?
My moral victory bar...
…is set at 29 points. This should be a 30+ point victory for the Lakers. If we keep it under that, moral (if joyless) victory.
Can't lose game
at least they should play loose and free
One good thing about the trade. We will see if the chemistry issues were Raja related or Amare centered.
Blogging Suns Basketball
by Seth Pollack on Dec 10, 2008 7:37 PM MST up reply actions
Quiet locker room
Suns pregame report that the Suns locker room is somber in response to the trade news.
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Outta curiosity
You don’t think Robin Lopez can do the job, or you think Diaw had turned a corner? (I mean personally, Diaw is not a guy I would be married to.)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Both
Lopez will get there but he’s going to need time. At least a year if not two. Look at bigs like Bynum and Chandler. It takes time and for team that is trying to win now that’s hard.
I do like Boris and what he brings. He certainly gave the Suns a legit starter at the 4 if Amare went down (or was traded) and I thought he played much better this year. He was more aggressive. His FG% was great and even his jump shot is improved.
He does a lot of little things to help a team win that don’t show up on the stat sheet. His personality is understated so it was easy to think he didn’t care but I think he was a very solid player for us. I do think also that he was overpaid but not by all that much. $7m/yr sounds about right for him.
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by Seth Pollack on Dec 10, 2008 8:19 PM MST up reply actions
He's an unusual talent
And I think if Brown doesn’t rag on him (a stretch I admit), he will do very well playing along side Okafor since they can both play defense, and Diaw’s overall abilities can help the team offensively from his ability to hit the J, and of course handle the ball which is the most unusual thing I can remember about a player like Diaw since Anthony Mason.
I do think Jason Richardson could help the team in a sense that it might make it easier to pair him with Goran Dragic. Maybe I’m just off on that. And good luck tonight. (Also great blog overall Stan. Really enjoyed what you’ve guys have done since Dan left.)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on
Finances
So we traded 14 million in money in Diaw and Bell for 12 million in Richardson. Now, Richardson is scheduled to make 13 next year and 14 the year after that. How are the SUns going to be able to get any depth? Now, i know that Diaw’s contract was overall horrible, but I thought Raja’s was pretty nice. Now, of course, he must have become a locker room cancer, cuz he’s gone.
Just wondering what the long term plan is.
Boris Diaw's quote
Anybody see this on ESPN’s broadcast?
“It wasn’t as exciting for the fans. It’s not as much fun for everybody. I’ll always remember Phoenix with Mike D’Antoni. We went from a winning team that was the most exciting team in the league to a half-winning team that wasn’t exciting at all.”
Ouch. I’m glad someone took his 9 million dollar salary, because I, too, would ally myself with the guy that gave me 45 million…Bye Boris….
Well, he speaks the truth.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
This game is depressing :(
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Why can't Tragic hit open shots?
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Gasol looks like a homeless person.
The most skilled homeless person I’ve ever seen.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
What PG are available?
I don’t see a Marbury buyout..
yikes
would phoenix really welcome him back?
by ArizonaCactus on Dec 10, 2008 9:24 PM MST up reply actions
FREE MARBURY!
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
He's a douchebag.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
He's been watching a different team
He says Barbosa needs to step up offensively because Bell and Diaw are gone.
Doesn’t he realize Barbosa comes close to outscoring those two combined?
Mmmmm ... Guinness
I just want to say
That my head is about to explode…I can’t understand shit of what’s happening right now….
Kudos to the team who is playing really well even though there are a lot of things going on.
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
+1
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Only down 1 after 3 quarters
Doing better than I expected. Fingers crossed that they can pull out a win.
Is Hill injured?
Oh noes.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
looks like we're headed for a loss
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
I've been one of the biggest Amare supporters...
but if he doesn’t start actually trying on the defensive end, something has to be done.
It's frustrating to see him just standing around...not even trying
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
Amare's a douche.
Nash looks defeated.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Nash looks bushed
Most of those shots he looked like he had dead legs as the shots hit the front of the rim. More effort from Amare and this could have been a win.
Nash is so pissed...
he didn’t even stay on the court…
I guess the trade really got to him cause he was so off tonight.
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
I don't believe in moral victories
But I liked what I saw.
Stoudemire was at 20-10 (I’m sure Stan will explain the weakness of each and every rebound, though).
Lopez looked good on the pick and roll (he’s looked pretty good on that play for most of the year, although its probably due to Nash). I also thought I saw a post move in the first period.
Barbosa and Barnes also did their thing.
Nash only goes 2 for 12 and the Suns lose by 5? A normal shooting night for Nash covers that deficit.
As a basketball fan, I liked that the 10 guys on the floor were smiling and having fun. It was a good game.
The Suns lost, but it was a good basketball game. I can’t help but think that JRich would’ve been the difference for a win. Geez, Raja Bell could’ve been the difference for a win (and he sucks— yeah, I said it; now that he’s gone I’m getting louder in my criticisms of him).
Oh, by the way, what are those nuts over Connie Hawkins going to do now?
Mmmmm ... Guinness
Sorry
I can’t. I slept though the second half recovering from my trip. I never sleep on the road.
From what I did see the Lakers didn’t look that good either. All that great D they were playing in LA seems to have been shelved in favor of coasting for a few months. Fortunately for the Lakers their coasting was good enough to beat our guys last night.
The impact to Nash was kind of surprising. I wonder how long it’s going to take him to recover?
Also not mentioned is that Diaw and LB were good buddies too.
But oh well. The trade machine said that the salaries matched so you have to pull the trigger.
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by Seth Pollack on Dec 11, 2008 8:15 AM MST up reply actions
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