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New York Knicks at Phoenix Suns, Dec 15, 2008 7:00 PM MST


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7:00 PM Mountain / 9:00 PM Eastern

Cloudy, 47F

TV: MSG, FSAZ
Probable starters:
Chris Duhon
PG Steve Nash
Nate Robinson
SG JSUN RichardSUN
Wilson Chandler
SF Grant Hill
Al Harrington
PF Amar'e Stoudemire

David Lee

C Shaquille O'Neal

 

Pregame Coverage: Yahoo!   ESPN

Catch the happy Knicks fans here:  Posting and Toasting

And this Dirty Diaw Diss.  Shed no tears for Boris, my friends.

 

Welcome To Preseason, Take 3

Understandably, the Phoenix Suns are going to be in flux with the trade and the transition back to Q7SOL (Quasi-7-Seconds-Or-Less).  However, stunningly, in that short time, the Suns have been winning.  It's a good sign since the data before the changeover was much worse than our W-L record.  Various efficiency stats had us as one of the most dis-improved teams in the league.  Based on point-differentials, Hollinger has us as the 9th team in the West with only a 55% chance of making the playoffs.  His power rankings had us at the bottom of the league, as low as 18th following our four-game losing streak.  Management did not make this trade too soon.  Disaster wasn't imminent.  Disaster, as the data show, had already struck. 

Preseason Take 3 continues tonight with the circus coming to town - yes, the New York Knickerbockers with the D'Antonis, Phil Weber, Quentin RichardSun, Tim Thomas and even the estranged and abused Stephon Marbury.

The Knicks appear greatly improved.  They've lost close games to Chicago and Atlanta but smoked a flailing Detriot team (AI, you suck!) and schooling the Nets and the SacQueens.  Rememeber the Nets are the ones we let own us at home?  Devin Harris looked like an all-star?  In the loss to Chicago, Chris Duhon dropped 15 points, 14 assists and 9 rebounds- solid play for the Bulls cast-off.  Tim Thomas is reviving himself into being the terror he was in 2005-2006, with a +20 plus/minus in the Kinick's most recent game.  In that game, the once impotent Knicks also dropped 43 in the first quarter on the SacQueens.   Expect the Knicks to come out gunning and to tempt the Suns into a shoot out that only Terry Porter can hope to stop. 

What I didn't understand about our win against the Magic was Stan Van Gundy's inability to convince his team to really force the issue on us inside.  With Shaq, we should give that a shot here, before going on to see which team has the best in-your-face lauch-from-all-angles on-the-move three point shooters tonight.   Maybe we're better, maybe we're not.  Why do we have to find out right now?  Let's punish them inside and then play the outside game.

 

Star-divide

A Bucket o' Hot Wings

My first impression in looking at the crowded talent on the wings is to start trading.  We have some needs on the crucial front line and at the PG.

We upgraded the SG position with JRichardSUN for Bell, which only intensifies the logjam.  We still have Hill and Barnes competing for the starting SF, and we have Barbosa in the mix and Tucker coming back, with Tucker expected to be the second coming of Michael Finley, only bigger, longer and uncut.

But with JRich, Barnes and Hill taking most of the minutes at SF/SG, there's not going to be many minutes for Barbosa and Tucker, who really need the minutes to develop their games and become the players of the future. 

What to do?  Let's face facts - Hill and Barnes are awesome, but they are also now rental players that our salary structure will not be able to support next year if they want more money.  Certainly Barnes wants and deserves a lot more.  We might be able to offer a mid-level, but it will be hard to keep him if other teams want to outbid us.  Hill might stay at reasonable prices, given his ties to Shaq, the point he is in his career and with family considerations.  However, even if he stays, one must expect his game to diminish, for him to struggle in a diminished role, and ultimately not perform at the level his is today. 

Also, let's consider a very simple reason for the JRich-Bell-Diaw trade.  Basketball aside, JRich is a far more moveable piece than either Diaw or Bell.  Even if JRich didn' fit where the Suns were going, it would be easier to to trade for him and then put him on the trading block for something else.  We expect JRich to be locked into the starting SG spot for the next three years, but at 14 million on the cap there are no gaurantees. 

Therefore, despite the current logjam, we should expect to see a very different situation next year, and that suggests holding onto both Barbosa and Tucker and trying to get them minutes this year. 

Clearly, management is looking in that direction by attempting to have Hill fill in at PG a little and discussing using Barnes at PF.  You might think 6'6" Barnes at PF is outrageous, but think agian.  On of the greatest PFs in Suns history was 6'4" Chalres Barkley. Clearly it takes more to be a PF than just being 7 foot.   And if Barnes play is any indication, his 3 offensive rebounds in a row last game was absurd.  The guy can bang under the basket just as well as he can shoot the long ball. Meanwhile, we've seen Hill handle the ball more with Nash out, and that makes more sense to me than trying to puch Dragic up the steep NBA learning curve right now.  I think if Dragic sitting opens up more minutes for Tucker at SG, that's a good thing and that Tucker is the priority.

 

WWF?  No, this is the NBA.

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The ongoing divorce of Sarver-Kerr and DAntonis continues in the media like a tag-team WWF match.   It's been asked (ad infinitum), "Who's right?" and without a doubt to me it is obviously, "Both."   Or more better yet, who's wong?  "Both."  I have no doubt the management group nudged out D'Antoni the same way they nudged out Bryan Colangelo.  

Anyone educated in corporate politics knows these things can be done in quite subtle fashion, each request being rather sensible on its own.  It's hard to defend Dan D'Antoni's hiring, given how the coach stunted LB's defensive play.  But on the other hand, it's hard not to understand that Mike felt bringing in a "defensive ace" was only going to undermine his authority and shatter the "wa" of the coaches office.  Besides, who really likes training their own successor??

Again, on yet another hand, who can argue with management's view?  Was there really much tampering with the coaching genius?  Perhaps not at a reasonable level.   

Regardless, the media is stirring the pot and the quotes are bubbling to the top, but it doesn't matter to us at the Bright Side at all.  Basically, a bunch of grown men couldn't get along and work for the best of the team, so they had to separate. They are all guilty of not putting the team first. 

This ain't the WWF, let's keep the drama on the hardwood!

But the net effect is hasn't been a disaster just yet.  The New York Knicks are now relevant and the Phoenix Suns are getting by just fine now that the offense has been handed back over to Steve Nash.  The Suns may get better if TP can actually come up with useful defensive schemes, but we have yet to see that happen.  I think it says something about Terry Porter that his smartest move in 6 months has been to hand the offense back to Steve Nash.  And that something is not so good.

[Note by Phoenix Stan, 12/15/08 10:10 AM PST ]

I was curious how the fans in New York were feeling so I checked in with Seth at Posting and Toasting. Here's what he says:

I've gotta say, the mood at P&T is remarkably upbeat. The Knicks have a tough stretch in front of them, but for the moment things look solid. I was one of the many who thought that the cap-clearing trade would bury the '08-'09 season, but Tim Thomas has surpassed expectations and Al Harrington is playing like the messiah.

D'Antoniball is alternately invigorating and frustrating, but nobody can doubt the camaraderie and likability he's injected into the franchise. That mustachioed smile has swept the paranoia of the Thomas years right out the door.

Nobody's forgetting 2010, but it's not the first thing on our minds at this point. Nope, we've got designs on the playoffs at this point, and it feels good.

 [Note by Phoenix Stan, 12/15/08 12:44 PM PST ]

Here's a few more great previews to this epic battle which is clearly the BIGGEST GAME OF THE YEAR

[Note by Phoenix Stan, 12/15/08 1:40 PM PST ]

More pregame audio provided by Sports 620 KTAR.

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Best outrageous headline based on the audio wins...my love. Don't spend it all in one place. 

 

Poll
Do the Knicks make the Playoffs this year?
Yes, they do and JSun is a Jenius!
66 votes
No, they don't and what was JSun thinking?
18 votes
I plead the 5th Amendment
14 votes

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we had better win

check out yahoo rumors. d’ antoni had an interview where he said “im only human” when asked about his tendency to gloat at our misfortunes. what a piece of garbage, i hope we win by 70.

by ryansunsfan on Dec 15, 2008 7:19 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Unfortunately...

I think we’re gonna need about 190 points for that to happen.

by Azreous on Dec 15, 2008 9:18 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously, if Shaq plays we are SCREWED.

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Dec 15, 2008 9:42 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

I can't decide

I have spent the past two days trying to decide if the Suns should slow it down, control tempo, pound the glass and feed the beast in the post or if we should try and out run the Knicks.

My guess is we will see some of both starting w/ Shaq and pounding then going up tempo w/ Amare, Barnes, Hill, JRich, LB and Nash.

by Phoenix Stan on Dec 15, 2008 10:19 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Lookin forward to this

Blogging from home thanks to a horiffic cold. Hopefully this game will be just the medicine I need.

God willing the Suns will come out and crush the Knicks beneath their feet. I have a sinking feeling though that this game will be closer than it needs to be. Should be nice though to see our new lineup finally all together.

"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness

by Turambar on Dec 15, 2008 11:54 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Over under is only 225

That seems WAY low to me. I would think 240 easy.

by Phoenix Stan on Dec 15, 2008 5:28 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

agreed.

I have no idea who is going to sucker who this game. I don’t know if the suns will hurt themselves more if they try to slow down the pace or if they try to keep up.

Everything must go.

by ZonaFlash on Dec 15, 2008 5:45 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Should be interesting

I just want to see this team start to meld with JRich. Though a W would be very nice

"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness

by Turambar on Dec 15, 2008 7:05 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

a blowout would be even nicer!

160 to 130, Suns win is what I want.

Everything must go.

by ZonaFlash on Dec 15, 2008 7:11 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Yikes

Charlotte is trailing Atlanta by 5 late in the 4th, but Boris has 23 points on 10-20 shooting. On the other hand, Raja has 2 points.

Go Suns!

by TwinnerA on Dec 15, 2008 7:08 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Regardless

still fine with losing Diaw. He wasnt going to do nada here with STAT getting the touches and since we werent going to drop STAT then 3D was just going to stagnate in mediocrity. So I dont want to here anyone say “well look we should have kept him” even though I know you werent saying that Twinner.

"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness

by Turambar on Dec 15, 2008 7:12 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

AMEN

"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness

by Turambar on Dec 15, 2008 7:14 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Nah

I wasn’t saying that, just meant Boris is capable of scoring a lot.

by TwinnerA on Dec 15, 2008 7:36 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Trying to rev up the diesel early

"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness

by Turambar on Dec 15, 2008 7:15 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

seems to be working so far

"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness

by Turambar on Dec 15, 2008 7:15 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Nash has switched into assassin mode early

Looking solid so far, and we have yet to release the beast named STAT

"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness

by Turambar on Dec 15, 2008 7:20 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Amare

No shots taken yet. Rebounding though early.

by TwinnerA on Dec 15, 2008 7:22 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

They'll

go to him strong soon

"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness

by Turambar on Dec 15, 2008 7:26 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

dont jinx it dude!

"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness

by Turambar on Dec 15, 2008 7:28 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Suns moving the ball

and they look awesome!

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Dec 15, 2008 7:30 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

At least they did

until Nash came out.

by TwinnerA on Dec 15, 2008 7:35 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Concern

My main concern going forward this season is how we’ll deal with touches on this team. The last thing we need is STAT belly aching over not getting his share and thus splitting this team apart.

There is alot of hope with this team but alot of things need to be worked out first, and what I just mentioned is the biggest

"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness

by Turambar on Dec 15, 2008 7:30 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Tru

I really want to see that every single night

"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness

by Turambar on Dec 15, 2008 7:35 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Meh

Good start, bad ending to the quarter. Gotta work on the play of that secondary unit. Lots of potential there to make it work, they just need to make the extra pass

"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness

by Turambar on Dec 15, 2008 7:35 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Oh yeh

I am liking this game. I’m glad the fans gave D’antoni a good ovation. I’m a NYer and long times suns fan. I cant wait for the suns to come here next month. You know I’m at that game.

by KnowGood on Dec 15, 2008 7:39 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Me likey

the only 1 turnover so far alot! I’ve never even been to NY. Have you ever been to AZ?

by TwinnerA on Dec 15, 2008 7:42 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

nope

I would love to go. I’m 26 and have been a fan since I was a little kid. Always wanted to go to AZ. Just hasnt been in the cards.

by KnowGood on Dec 15, 2008 7:45 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

one day my friend, one day

"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness

by Turambar on Dec 15, 2008 7:46 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

There's still lots more time

for you. For me, I am almost double your age, so time is running out quicker for me. You wouldn’t want to visit AZ this week as it is cold and rainy!

by TwinnerA on Dec 15, 2008 7:49 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Same here

I was planning to go in Feb but I changed jobs…not eligible for vacations until Sept! So I’ll have to wait until 2009-2010 season…

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Dec 15, 2008 7:55 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Boris > AdmundSun, but AdmundSun > Boris off the bench

I love to watch him play,

Everything must go.

by ZonaFlash on Dec 15, 2008 7:50 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Tru story

"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness

by Turambar on Dec 15, 2008 7:52 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

never looked at it that way

boris however doesnt miss as many dunks

by Wichita SunSteeler on Dec 15, 2008 7:54 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Cause he doesn't dunk?

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Dec 15, 2008 7:57 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah.....

I started thinking that right after I posted it but umm…. when boris dunks he doesnt miss? so yeah im gonna shut up now

by Wichita SunSteeler on Dec 15, 2008 7:59 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

no

i meant that he dunks rarely

"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness

by Turambar on Dec 15, 2008 7:59 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

I understood what you meant

by Wichita SunSteeler on Dec 15, 2008 8:00 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

nm

my bad. I thought you were commenting on my comment.

"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness

by Turambar on Dec 15, 2008 8:02 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

because...

he is never aggressive enough to take many

"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness

by Turambar on Dec 15, 2008 7:58 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

lol

Why are we talking about the guy?
AdmunSun is great!

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Dec 15, 2008 8:02 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Dantoni

Do any of you guys remember the duck quote?

by Wichita SunSteeler on Dec 15, 2008 8:08 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

JRich

I know it’s only game two with JRich, but I’m really loving that trade so far. Let us hope it makes this team relevant again

"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness

by Turambar on Dec 15, 2008 8:08 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

if I ever had any doubt

in the JRich trade, its gone. I’m liking the intesity.

by KnowGood on Dec 15, 2008 8:09 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

agreed

Gotta a lot of season yet to play, but things look bright for the deal. Lets hope it stays that way.

"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness

by Turambar on Dec 15, 2008 8:10 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

He is not shooting that much

he has made some nice passes instead….That’s good to see

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Dec 15, 2008 8:11 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Solid half

The Knicks are only done 11 after going 2-19 from the line though thanks to getting to the line so many times. 17 FTA’s vs only 6 for the Suns. What’s up with that? The Suns are killing it in the paint.

Best stat though – 5 turnovers at the half for the Suns and more FGA’s and TReb’s.

Let’s see what happens when the Knicks start hitting their shots

by Phoenix Stan on Dec 15, 2008 8:25 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

oh and they just started hitting them..

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Dec 15, 2008 8:31 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Scary

Damn that better not be a serious injury wth JRich

"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness

by Turambar on Dec 15, 2008 8:30 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

we are now

since we’re kneeing people in the shnozz

by KnowGood on Dec 15, 2008 8:39 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Woah...

 Scary

Damn that better not be a serious injury wth JRich

“Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby.” Ash from Army of Darkness

by Turambar on Dec 15, 2008 7:30 PM PST

….I can’t watch the game right now…an injury to Richardson?….what happened?

by Silkster on Dec 15, 2008 8:42 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

guess it was just a stinger, no prob

"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness

by Turambar on Dec 15, 2008 8:45 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

lol @ the dantoni comment

the commentators said that dantoni looks like hes crying when he complains or gets mad and tat he makes him want to just give him a hug

by Wichita SunSteeler on Dec 15, 2008 8:44 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Ha ha

Eddie Johnson said he never said that when D’Antoni was here but I guess now that he’s gone he can say it.

by TwinnerA on Dec 15, 2008 8:46 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

They are hanging around...

me dont like

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Dec 15, 2008 8:47 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Nah

I’d enjoy it if we slaughtered them.

by TwinnerA on Dec 15, 2008 9:01 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

another 3 for stat

he had one vs. orlando too right?

by Wichita SunSteeler on Dec 15, 2008 8:48 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

yes he did

I love it. He needs to step his 3s up. Its so unexpected…and deadly.

by KnowGood on Dec 15, 2008 8:50 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

This Is Amare

The amare I have been waiting for

by Wichita SunSteeler on Dec 15, 2008 8:49 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

The Effort

The effort is there tonight, especially on the defensive end he knew he had to stop harrington (one of my personal favorite players since he was in indiana) and he came out and did it

by Wichita SunSteeler on Dec 15, 2008 8:52 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

lol when did you pick him up?

If it was this week then thats what I call bad timing

by Wichita SunSteeler on Dec 15, 2008 8:54 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice pick he really is a beast

too bad he was carrying the load in GS though

by Wichita SunSteeler on Dec 15, 2008 8:59 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

thats why I was glad

when he got traded to the knicks. I knew he’d flourish in d’antoni’s style of play. Just like how I had grant hill on my squad last year. I knew coming to the suns he’d be fantastic.

by KnowGood on Dec 15, 2008 9:02 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

hes scoring a lot less

but more than compensates with spacing, hustle and rebounding. if he does this for the rest of the year, id be happy

by ryansunsfan on Dec 15, 2008 8:51 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

he’s not forcing the issue, neither of them are.

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Dec 15, 2008 8:53 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

btw

denver is killing dallas, looks like we’re gonna sneak in the rankings. :) i know the season is ways over, but i just feel a lot better knowing if the season ended today, wed be in the playoffs

by ryansunsfan on Dec 15, 2008 8:52 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Matt Barnes

I guess they were serious about playing him at PF

by Wichita SunSteeler on Dec 15, 2008 8:56 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

hes doing good

imo. two offensive rebounds

by ryansunsfan on Dec 15, 2008 8:58 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

j-rich > bell in D?

suns are holding one of the highest scoring teams to barely 40% and q-rich is shooting just 1 of 4

by ryansunsfan on Dec 15, 2008 8:56 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

D

Defense is all effort, and bell didnt show much effort

by Wichita SunSteeler on Dec 15, 2008 8:58 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I think he tried

but his legs were not responding like before

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Dec 15, 2008 9:00 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I really was kind of heartbroken to see them go

I wasnt here during the trade but I was heartbroken I loved D’Antoni’s boys if nash or amare went though I would be beside myself

by Wichita SunSteeler on Dec 15, 2008 9:02 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

im from the philippines

and though i always loved basketball, i never stuck to one team until nash came to play for the phoenix suns. nash being traded would be nothing short of heart-breaking

by ryansunsfan on Dec 15, 2008 9:04 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

You know..

as a Basketball player… there’s nothing more frustrating than trying really hard and finding out that your body doesn’t respond as it used to…

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Dec 15, 2008 9:09 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Someone needs to squash him and keep him from scoring any more.

by TwinnerA on Dec 15, 2008 9:06 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

damn is right

Instead of increasing a 10 or 15 point lead many times they let them back in time and again with Robinson doing the most damage in the 3rd and 4th quarters.

by TwinnerA on Dec 15, 2008 9:08 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

watch this effin game go into OT. I’ma be heated

by KnowGood on Dec 15, 2008 9:10 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

3 pt lead

:( come on. these are the knicks. on our floor. by a coach we should know how to counter, being as he taught us all his offensive and defensive schemes. :|

by ryansunsfan on Dec 15, 2008 9:11 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

which sucks fo me double

cause he’s also on my fantasy team

by KnowGood on Dec 15, 2008 9:14 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

in his defense

he’s been fouled a lot…no calls at all.

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Dec 15, 2008 9:15 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like

he was trying to pass to Amare and Amare making some excuse during the timeout.

by TwinnerA on Dec 15, 2008 9:16 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

thankfully they keep jackin up 3's

34 attempts and 14% by the knicks compared to our 21 and 38%…..geeze…

"Hes very cerebral when he plays out there"--Hubie

by Snowbird on Dec 15, 2008 9:17 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

this should be it right here

im not trying to jinx it but im pretty confident that this game is over :)

by ryansunsfan on Dec 15, 2008 9:21 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

bench shaq

barrage of free throws coming soon

by ryansunsfan on Dec 15, 2008 9:22 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Not too worried about it

Porter is re-re-re tinkering with the lineup anyways

"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness

by Turambar on Dec 15, 2008 9:24 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Nash to the rescue

3 pointer nails it down

April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?

by Hawk42 on Dec 15, 2008 9:24 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Solid W

Despite the bad 4th quarter.

"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness

by Turambar on Dec 15, 2008 9:24 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

not to mention the really bad 3rd

"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness

by Turambar on Dec 15, 2008 9:27 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Knicks 3 pt shooting sucked

3 point shooting decided this one. D’A must’ve thought he had Nash, House, JJ, and Marion on his bench

April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?

by Hawk42 on Dec 15, 2008 9:25 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

lol

if you live by the three, you die by the three

by ryansunsfan on Dec 15, 2008 9:26 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Tru story

people may get mad at the Suns for leaving the 3 open tonight, but they knew they had no rhythm at the 3 so why guard it?

"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness

by Turambar on Dec 15, 2008 9:28 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Eric Snow is soooooooooooo BORING

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Dec 15, 2008 9:28 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Also Tru Story

"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness

by Turambar on Dec 15, 2008 9:29 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Who's that?

Commentator for the Knicks?

by TwinnerA on Dec 15, 2008 9:30 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

great win

some good some ad but thats life. There’s 48 minutes for a reason.

by KnowGood on Dec 15, 2008 9:26 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Funny how Amare is talking

about “missing” the D’Antonis now. Yeah, right.

by TwinnerA on Dec 15, 2008 9:27 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

for the most part

defense decided this game. both teams shot poorly, especially on the perimeter. so yeah, its a step in the right direction

by ryansunsfan on Dec 15, 2008 9:28 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Marbury

Maybe I’m being naive, but surely Marbury could contribute to this team. Remember how he used to torch Nash?

April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?

by Hawk42 on Dec 15, 2008 9:29 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

the Knicks, I mean

April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?

by Hawk42 on Dec 15, 2008 9:30 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

the suns have issues

it would take a team thats been together really long under a very tough minded coach (im thinking sp*rs) to get marbury to benefit. otherwise, hed just be a lockerroom cancer.

by ryansunsfan on Dec 15, 2008 9:31 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Damn

He’s being paid $20 this year to not play. That’s criminal.

by TwinnerA on Dec 15, 2008 9:32 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

sad part is

knicks could really use him

by ryansunsfan on Dec 15, 2008 9:34 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Wierd situation there

"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness

by Turambar on Dec 15, 2008 9:35 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

So I read that the fans cheered D’Antoni when he was

by TwinnerA on Dec 15, 2008 9:39 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Damn

introduced and kept it up until the lights were turned out for our intros. I am sure there were some boos, but the classier fans wanted to show their appreciation.

by TwinnerA on Dec 15, 2008 9:40 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Strange game

but Shaq won it from the line. I don’t recall anyone predicting that outcome.

And btw. Amare was awesome. That was legit 14 rebounds. That’s the Amare we need.

The teams spirits seem so much better over the past two games. Its hard to believe Bell and Diaw were causing that much locker room tension but it sure looks that way

by Phoenix Stan on Dec 15, 2008 9:45 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

We won?

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Dec 15, 2008 9:48 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Trade is looking good.

Can’t argue with two wins. Very balanced scoring……the turnovers were down from our average…Shaq and Amare looked good on the glass and Jrich with 7 rebounds. I like the dedication to rebounding amare has shown over the last 5 games. He won’t have to score as much with this line-up. A couple days off for portland. We should be fresh.

by cabezonication on Dec 15, 2008 10:34 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

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