Tuesday random links
by Seth Pollack on Dec 16, 2008 3:14 PM MST
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PrintA few things I've run across today that all deserve to be shared in some form or this one:
- Suns.com is using free eye surgery to intice you to make a home video...I don't think I would want to judge the entries. You've seen what Suns fans will do for a free t-shirt. Imagine what people are going to do to get their eyes fixed for free.
- I have a favorite new song. This cover of the classic Who was recorded in 2001 but I just heard it for the first time on Californication the other night.
- Ben updates us on Pargo (which isn't as bad as it sounds). Long story short, the global economic meltdown could land the Suns a point guard.
- Speaking of point guards, Gambo of KTAR radio reports that the Suns are scouting Eddie Gill of the D League and formerly the Pacers but Sam Cassell's name is being batted around too. That's probably a good thing because my wife and daughter were just talking last night about how cute Nash, Shaq and Grant are. We need some more ugly on the Suns. Gambo for you out of towners has proven to have reliable sources in the past. I have yet to figure out how to link to something I heard on the radio but if you have any ideas I am open
- Henry Abbott at True Hoop is exploring Twitter. I love me some Twitter. Its like the haiku of internet speak.
- Lesson of the day. Don't pick a fight with someone that buys ink by the barrel or has 100 times the eye balls you do and watches far more basketball then you ever will. Apologies to Mr. Dwyer who emailed me that he did in fact watch every second of the Suns Knicks game which makes his comment that the Knicks stayed close through green light shooting even more confusing to me. Clearly it is possible for people to watch the same game and see different things. Yours truly is duly humbled.
[Note by ZonaFlash, 12/16/08 6:56 PM EST ]
Steve Kerr Strikes Back at Fans
Thanks for stirring the pot, SI. Here, Steve Kerr finds time to say suggest fans are too nostalgic. SI goes on to credit Kerr with changing the Suns style, but they didn't go out on a limb and say it was for the better. Clearly, the style makeover failed and we are back to Q7SOL.
Maybe its fanblog wankery, Brian Schmitz says Grant Hill is thinking of going home to Orlando. Either by trade or in the offseason.
NY Media Speculation - yes, everything that happens in the NBA is about the New York Knicks. Including the Phoenix-Charlotte trade.
Knicks Head Coach Mike D'Antoni, to Steve Nash, after getting a brief break on the bench during the second quarter, "I thought they were going to give you more rest this season?"
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yea you missed it
that game was dumb close! if my guys hit 3 of the 32 missed three-pointers they took – we win the game by a point. its not like they didn’t have at least half of those being good looks.
3 of 32 is nothin. suns fans are on notice.
and another thing
how are you guys gonna handle losing nash when he forces your team not to pick up his option then bolts for new york THIS off season?
and why come steve has to yell at amar’e for? all you classic dudes are drifting at sea.
furthermore
my lineup is gonna be nash/wade/the great bronzini/anybody/david lee
with nate robinson off the bench plus wilson chandler
feelings are gonna hurt!
Is this a Knicks fan
running smack here after a loss? Seriously?
The Knicks fans think they are the Lakers? Really?
Really?
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by Seth Pollack on Dec 16, 2008 4:12 PM MST up reply actions
hahahaha.... can we hire him as comedic relief for the blog?
and why come steve has to yell at amar’e for?
feelings are gonna hurt!
we the yankees, your doogie browser is mexed up!
yes i can be hired for this
cus i be having no jobs cus i just sit here at home like, “yo job i have that i’ma not do the work for, ya’ll is now trying to pay me the money i convinced you to owe me.” and they say to me like “yea you right man, we gon give you this here, and we talk about the raise you aksing me would i consider”. and i go back like “yes i will take the raise”
so as you can see from what i’m at telling you – i can take ya’lls money too. let’s roll these birds!
Yes - that was fun.
I have my game 1 WS ticket stub right here in the desk drawer.
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by Seth Pollack on Dec 16, 2008 10:28 PM MST up reply actions
32 missed 3s = stupidity
Or what if 15 of those 3 point misses were worked around the court a bit until you had 15 decent shots- maybe even layups. Then make only 5 of them (33%) and you win the game.
To keep shooting 3s there is pretty silly.
OMG, If I made some of those half court shots, I would have won the HORSE game!
April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?
No kidding
In order for the argument to hold up, the rest of the game after each miss changed to a make would have had to played out exactly the same. You’d have to look at how the Suns handled each miss to determine what impact a make would’ve had on pace + strategy employed by the Suns.
by underxthebridge on Dec 16, 2008 4:10 PM MST reply actions
Woops
That was supposed to be in reply to Hawk.
by underxthebridge on Dec 16, 2008 4:10 PM MST up reply actions
I am thinking that
logic isn’t going to be the best approach here. I could be wrong.
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by Seth Pollack on Dec 16, 2008 4:12 PM MST up reply actions
Stan, you're a genius!
I don’t even think that is english he is using
April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?
ahh
let’s be nice and not take away NYKs fans hopes…at least they have that going for their team…I mean hopes …right?
Cassell? Really?
nother stint with the Suns? Why? He’s already on a championhip team; why move?
In regards to Stingy and the Knicks. Shut up! You’re a Knicks fan on a Suns blog? I’m from NY and I aint even a knicks fan. And further more, you cant talk trash about other teams and make your team look good until your team actually IS good. They may be better than they were last year, but thats not sayin much. Its also taking 2 former Suns players and former coach to even be acknowledged as something else besides a joke of a team. Make playoffs first, then I’ll be open to discussion. Until then, the Knicks still have to fight to get out of the shit they’ve been in for so long.
no offence and no disrespect
Just friendly basketball talk. Fans vs fans. That what keeps the sport healthy.
yea thats me
with your milkshakes right here.
you want dem? tell ya man steve kerr that the knicks have the ingredients and the chef.
knicks in 012!
Cassell isn't playing anywhere right now
He has zero minutes w/ the C’s in zero games. The upside is he is shooting 100% on 0 for 0.
I don’t know if he’s under contract though. Its a good question
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by Seth Pollack on Dec 16, 2008 5:27 PM MST up reply actions
Hill for JJ
This deal is impossibly insane on so many levels besides my KTAR contacts say that the Suns say its totally bogus. In this case I believe them.
As for Hill going back to Orlando after this year when his contract is up…that makes sense. So does his staying one more year w/ Shaq. Does anyone really think Hill has decided? No way.
As far as this goes – all I can say is sweet. Curry and Lee for Bell and Diaw? MJ should jump all over that one:
But according to a league official, Charlotte was pushing to get the deal finalized quickly because after 60 days – and right before the February trading deadline – they would have the option of combining Diaw and Bell in a trade, with the Knicks believed to be their final destination. The contracts of Diaw and Bell match those of Eddy Curry and Lee,
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but on a serious note
michael jordan wears mom jeans, so he don’t make good trades. plus larry brown hated david lee.
You're working hard to get there
But I know that you can actually put a thoughttogether so the sandbagging isn’t going to work…but it is getting old
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by Seth Pollack on Dec 16, 2008 6:31 PM MST up reply actions
after the just “dead that dude and move on” i vote for more stingy d….absolutely hilarious
by ArizonaCactus on Dec 16, 2008 8:00 PM MST up reply actions
Sorry - guess I am not getting the joke
but I down w/ whatever the peeps want
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by Seth Pollack on Dec 16, 2008 8:20 PM MST up reply actions
i'm the frank drebin of new york basketball
so i will tone it down a smidge. i’m actually a big suns fan. but i can’t root against my guys – even a tiny bit. so you get the treatment. but regardless of the fact that “irregardless” is not a word, and despite the fact that people say it all the time, i will do my best not to point it out when i disagree with seeing it when someone says it. you know what i mean?
knicks in 010!
Did Kerr just say that we were "TOO NOSTALGIC"?!
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on Dec 16, 2008 7:21 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
Yeah - I am thinking that's good for a Moron Point
I wanted to listen to the bit myself first just to make sure ZF didn’t misquote him or anything
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by Seth Pollack on Dec 16, 2008 8:32 PM MST up reply actions
EL OH EL
Thats funny as hell. Both the Obama and Kerr. How in the heck are we too nostalgic!?! Or even slightly nostalgic. Kerr, you’re too…much of a spur. The Spurs havent changed their team in, like, 10 years. So who’s talkin? Its not being nostalgic if we dont agree with your moves.
Anyone hear about the Marion to Cleveland for Verejo trade?
Nope - Kerr didn't say it
They interpreted it that way on the SI.com site but Kerr never said it and it wasn’t even close to what he was saying…
He was making the point that the Suns have won 1 playoff series in the last two years and that team never made it to the finals so he felt the team needed to get better.
Most people early last year agreed btw and were saying the exact same things. Defense needs to improve. Half court game needs to improve. Post game needs to improve. Suns don’t get to the line enough. Suns too dependent on the 3.
So when the Suns go out and do that and try and address those things we complain.
Anyway – Kerr never called the fans nostalgic and I would have given him a Moron Point for that b/c calling out fans is dumb for a GM and fans are entitled to be nostalgic for a very good team.
But he’s right. The Suns weren’t good enough to win and most people around here, in the media and where ever were saying the very same thing both before the Shaq trade and after and certainly after getting smoked by the Spurs in the first round.
It was D’Antoni who didn’t want to compromise and let his pride get in the way.
Btw – after hearing Mikestache talk more lately a few things are clear about his leadership style -
He’s too buddy buddy in his approach and he’s too emotional. Sure guys like playing for him when things are going good but he folded after that lose and his team went right with him. Maybe I am old school but in the Army there was a reason we didn’t go drinking with our officers. You can hate your leader and sometimes that’s ok as long as you respect him and you are willing to fight for eachother.
D’Antoni is weak sauce. Period. The Knicks can have him. Good riddance to him and his whinny face.
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by Seth Pollack on Dec 16, 2008 8:55 PM MST up reply actions
"D'Antoni is weak sauce?"
WTF he was a suns coach for life. A cotton fitzsimmons for the new millenia.
Mike D and I are gonna stop following your twitter. And I’m returning that present I had for you. No really.
Everything must go.
Strong mind, weak spine
I am reminded of this old favorite.. Adapt. Overcome.
Listen to his players. They love playing for him b/c he has confidence in them. Translation he lets them shoot anytime they want.
I lost all respect when I saw how he folded after game 1. He was unable to pull himself out of it and his team built on confidence was sunk once his was lost. No spine. No heart.
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by Seth Pollack on Dec 16, 2008 9:15 PM MST up reply actions
agreed
I mean, when was the last time we had a coach for at least 4 straight seasons? Not to mention winning seasons. His sauce should go on some wings and come with bleu cheese. No Homo.
Oh he can win some games
a lot of games and he’s a brilliant coach. I don’t think he’s a championship caliber coach and I don’t think you over come the things that are going to happen during a playoff run with that approach.
Do you think Reily or Popowitch want their players to love them? They demand and earn respect.
Too buddy buddy and they are too tied to him emotionally. And when things go wrong all he wants to do is blame someone else (rightly or not) and so its no wonder his teams couldn’t focus and power through the adversity. Blame the refs. Blame Stern.
And then what finally did it is after game 1 he blamed Amare not switching on that play and Amare quit on him for the rest of that series. That team last year was good enough to beat the Spurs and you have to give D’Antoni some of the blame for not getting it done but like you give him credit for all those wins.
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by Seth Pollack on Dec 16, 2008 9:25 PM MST up reply actions
Pop and Jax I give you, but not Riley
And frankly, none of those guys are available right now.
Everything must go.
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