Open Gameday Thread - Suns vs Mavericks
by Phoenix Stan
on Dec 4, 2008 5:14 PM MST
Phoenix @ Dallas
 Phoenix Suns |
 Dallas Mavericks |
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| 11-8 | 9-8 | |
| 6:00PM Mountain / 8:00 PM Eastern | ||
| TV: TNT, My45 HD | ||
| Probable starters: | ||
| Steve Nash | PG | Jason Kidd |
| Raja Bell | SG | Gerald Green |
| Barnes? Hill? |
SF | Devean George |
| Amare Stoudemire |
PF | The Dirk |
| @The_Real_Shaq | C | Erick(a) Dampier |
Let's agree to forget about last night. It wasn't a horrible game overall but the frustration with Amare's lackluster performance as 'Da Man cast a long shadow on the otherwise stellar performances of Grant Hill and Matt Barnes and the very solid efforts of Leandro and Boris. Even Rookie Lopez is easily forgiven for his lack of rebounding prowess given his limited floor time. I fully expect his numbers to get much better over time.
The Suns for all the drama and hype and angst will go as far this season as Amare can take them. After the last few weeks it's understandable that fans' hopes are as low as Amare's rebounding numbers. I would only caution once again that we've seen this all before with Amare and we've seen him get out of his own way and perform for extended periods of time. I was hoping this year we wouldn't have this all again but clearly Mr. Stoudemire is still (to paraphrase a cliche) a Maturity in Progress.
As for tonight's game against the Mav's, I would first refer you to this excellent comparisons made between the two teams at Hardwood Paroxysm.
Okay, we're going to put a stop to this right now. The Suns and Mavericks are not the same. Here is a list of the similarities between the two:
- They used to be really, really good, and now are only kind of good.
- Their point guards are old.
- They both have all-star caliber power forwards.
- They both have coaches.
Boom. That's it. The Suns started this season off on a tear, and then kind of fell off the map. The Mavs however, started slow, and are now starting to pick up steam. One of these teams is criticized for shooting too many jumpers. The other could actually be losing because they're throwing it into the post too often.
The Mavs team will roll with no J-Ho (recovering from a pringles bing) and Jerry Stackhouse (strained right pain in the ass) and will start Deavon "I refuse to be traded to the Nets" George and Gerald "I can jump higher then you but don't know how to play basketball" Green.
Looking at the Mavs latest box score though the term "starter" on this team is apparently meaningless. Dampier and Green "started" but played a combined 9 minutes while bench players Barea, Diop and Bass all played over 20 minutes and "reserve" Jason Terry played over 40. So who knows what mix of players the Mavs will throw out tonight. Carlisle's rotations apparently make even less sense then Porter's.
But all of that doesn't matter as long as Dirk can clear out all his team mates from half the court and launch jumpers over any one's head. Will Amare show up and work against Dirk or will he leave that boring "defense" stuff to Boris and Barnes? Remember Barnes and the Warriors locking up Dirk in the playoffs? That was fun.
In theory, I like our chances in this one but these days, I would just assume make a paper bag hand puppet then predict what the Suns are going to do.
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LET'S NBA!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VohyAsJVAxU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBWwvqw86x0
And just for old time’s sakes…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W27WnXwVN8Y&feature=related
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on Dec 4, 2008 1:32 PM MST 0 recs
FYI-
The Hornet’s logo is still up there, even though we are playing the Mavs.
Arizona expatriate in Missouri
by Snakebitten on Dec 4, 2008 3:10 PM MST 0 recs
Nash and Shaq playing
From Coro
Blogging Suns Basketball
by Phoenix Stan on Dec 4, 2008 5:16 PM MST 0 recs
The Mavs team will roll with no J-Ho (recovering from a pringles bing) and Jerry Stackhouse (strained right pain in the ass) and will start Deavon “I refuse to be traded to the Nets” George and Gerald “I can jump higher then you but don’t know how to play basketball” Green.
Haha. Pretty funny stuff there.
"....It is more about them than it is about the team. Cannot play with them. Cannot win with them. Cannot coach with them. Can’t do it. I want winners!" - Mike Singletary
by DennardC on Dec 4, 2008 6:11 PM MST 0 recs
Raja tee'd up/off
Quit yer bitching, Raja, and make a basket.
by TwinnerA on Dec 4, 2008 6:37 PM MST 0 recs
Amare with the O board
Nice to see. He just needs to play smarter on O
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on Dec 4, 2008 6:42 PM MST 0 recs
Goran Tragic < Petteri Koponen < Marcus Banks < DJ Strawberry < Eddie House < Sergio Rodriguez < Rajon Rondo
Can’t believe we traded all of them/let them go
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on Dec 4, 2008 6:44 PM MST 0 recs
Tragic Dragic
Dragic cost the team 5 points at the end of the quarter. His lazy defense let Berrea blow by him with 2 seconds left, and he stepped over the line to give the Mavs a chance at the 3 by Terry. Awful.
April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?
by Hawk42 on Dec 4, 2008 6:47 PM MST 0 recs
lol Barea is torching Tragic
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on Dec 4, 2008 6:48 PM MST 0 recs
I was really excited to get Dragic..
They hyped him so much.. but he looks like he doesn’t even move his feet on defense.
by brian13 on
Dec 4, 2008 6:49 PM MST
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Did they just say Amare has 34 assists and 55 TOs on the season
Holy Jebus
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on Dec 4, 2008 6:50 PM MST 0 recs
Seriously, how hasn't Kerr gotten fired?
I mean, the KT trade was terrible. The Marion trade was terrible(I don’t mind Shaq, but I would have waited until the summer). Forcing D’Antoni out was a mistake. Hiring his yes man in Porter instead of an actual coach was crap. Trading Strawberry was unnecessary. Drafting Robin 5 spots too high was a big reach(I like Robin, but dude’s a stiff so far). And then flat out lying to everyone about Tragic like we’re idiots…it’s insulting. I mean, they kept saying he was their 2nd highest ranked PG, but in their OWN BEHIND THE SCENES VIDEO, you could see that he was definitely not even in their top 5
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on Dec 4, 2008 6:54 PM MST 0 recs
Gee guy, I don't think you'd be very happy if this team were doing good.
by hcblankscreen on
Dec 4, 2008 6:55 PM MST
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You didn't see me complaining when we were doing well, did you?
Honestly, are you okay with this?
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on
Dec 4, 2008 6:57 PM MST
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Because Sarver's his bud
April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?
by Hawk42 on
Dec 4, 2008 6:57 PM MST
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"THEY CAN'T GUARD ANYTHING UP IN HERE!"--Jason Terry
This is just embarrassing.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on Dec 4, 2008 6:54 PM MST 0 recs
As bad as it looks
and, boy, does it look bad…I’m feeling good about this game. Our bench needs to step up on the O and everybody has to play better D. Oh, and make sure we dont get int foul trouble again. I’ll be damned if we send every team to the line for 35 shots. Thats just nutty.
by KnowGood on Dec 4, 2008 6:58 PM MST 0 recs
I think Porter will tear them apart during half time
And we’ll come out with fire in the 2nd half.
I hope….
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on
Dec 4, 2008 6:59 PM MST
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I must be watching a different game
cuz I can’t imagine what would make someone feel good about this mess.
by TwinnerA on
Dec 4, 2008 7:08 PM MST
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Sigh
AWFUL…
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
by PanamaSun on Dec 4, 2008 7:01 PM MST 0 recs
Holy smokes 49-28
Sorry, Suns fans. I can’t watch this crap. CSI is on, anyway. Goodnite.
April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?
by Hawk42 on Dec 4, 2008 7:01 PM MST 0 recs
I'm tempted to switch to "My Name is Earl"
And I’ve never seen that show before.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on
Dec 4, 2008 7:02 PM MST
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Mexican Soap Opera
I’m tempted… God please no!!
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
by PanamaSun on
Dec 4, 2008 7:04 PM MST
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Actually
it’s a pretty damn funny show. At least you might laugh til you cry rather than watch the mess the Suns have turned into which is about to make me cry.
by TwinnerA on
Dec 4, 2008 7:05 PM MST
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Thanks for the reminder
that must mean The Office is coming up next, or after that mess of a show Kath and Kim.
by TwinnerA on
Dec 4, 2008 7:06 PM MST
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the reason this hurts
Its not that we suck. Its that we’re not supposed to be this bad. We’ve had teams in the past here we knew we werent even going to have a winning season. But this is just mind blowing.
by KnowGood on Dec 4, 2008 7:08 PM MST 0 recs
Yeah...it's just shocking because we've had the same roster, and we've gotten DEEPER! Just a few months ago we were a great team...now we're a joke.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on
Dec 4, 2008 7:10 PM MST
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7-1 run gentlemen
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on Dec 4, 2008 7:11 PM MST 0 recs
Watching LeBron dance has been the best part of this experience so far.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on Dec 4, 2008 7:13 PM MST 0 recs
16 point game
Why am I happy about this?
And WTF are you doing Amare?
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on Dec 4, 2008 7:17 PM MST 0 recs
lawl, Bell thinks he's Wade
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on Dec 4, 2008 7:18 PM MST 0 recs
We need Nash to go all "05 playoffs" on them
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on Dec 4, 2008 7:19 PM MST 0 recs
what am I watching?
this is the NBA, right? I’ve seen far too many air-balls thrown up by this team this season than I’ve personally thrown.
by KnowGood on Dec 4, 2008 7:19 PM MST 0 recs
Making shots is bourgeois
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on
Dec 4, 2008 7:21 PM MST
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Seriously....wtf is Amare doing this season.
Porter’s Os have maximized his deficiencies(everything other than scoring off of Nash) and minimized his strengths(finishing off of Nash). He’s forcing EVERYTHING….he looks so average out there.
Kerr or Porter, one of them has to go.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on Dec 4, 2008 7:51 PM MST 0 recs
Ok guys...
I’m going into Panic Mode… I can’t help it….this is horrible…
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
by PanamaSun on Dec 4, 2008 7:58 PM MST 0 recs
I might be coming with you
Is it bad that when TNT showed Steve Kerr, I wanted to jump through the screen and punch him in the face?
by brian13 on
Dec 4, 2008 7:59 PM MST
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Nah
It’s ok! I wanted to do that too…
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
by PanamaSun on
Dec 4, 2008 8:04 PM MST
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It's not bad. If you punch him, it would be FOR GREAT JUSTICE. He's ruined this team. Completely destroyed us.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on
Dec 4, 2008 8:04 PM MST
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Kerr is a Spur, Dammit!!
Don’t you guys know anything? He is a Spur plant from the beginning! Popovich and RC Buford are laughing at us!
April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?
by Hawk42 on
Dec 4, 2008 8:56 PM MST
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Boris Diaw is glorious.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on Dec 4, 2008 8:13 PM MST 0 recs
Don't know why it took so long for Porter to put Barnes on Dirk
by hcblankscreen on Dec 4, 2008 8:13 PM MST 0 recs
Barnes was on Dirk a lot in the 3rd
Diaw’s on Dirk right now
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on
Dec 4, 2008 8:15 PM MST
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I'm not blaming any of this on the referees..
but sometimes, they are just awful.
by brian13 on Dec 4, 2008 8:19 PM MST 0 recs
I keep asking myself...
Why am I still watching this?
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
by PanamaSun on Dec 4, 2008 8:27 PM MST 0 recs
I switched to Scrubs when we were down by 14....and then I turned back and we were down by 20+
I love Kerr’s anguish.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on
Dec 4, 2008 8:30 PM MST
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Why didn't Porter put Nash in when were down 10 with like 8 mins to go?
This is terrible.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on Dec 4, 2008 8:34 PM MST 0 recs
Cause he is clueless
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
by PanamaSun on
Dec 4, 2008 8:36 PM MST
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I find it interesting how Amare has 28 points
But he has a worse +/- than Boris does.
Seriously….this is legitimately worrying me. The offense just flows with Boris on the floor, and while Amare will get his…it doesn’t seem to help.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on Dec 4, 2008 8:38 PM MST 0 recs
oh look, it’s another blowout loss on national television
I'm just like you, only ten times better.
by noonoo on Dec 4, 2008 8:47 PM MST 0 recs
lol, that's how we do it in Phoenix
WEST SIIIIDE!
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on
Dec 4, 2008 8:49 PM MST
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I stopped watching the national broadcasts a season again (when there’s a local broadcast as well). It hurts slightly less not hearing Barkley bag on us.
by TwinnerA on
Dec 4, 2008 8:50 PM MST
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Jeez
I can hardly wait to go the Saturday’s game against Utah. Go Suns.
by TwinnerA on Dec 4, 2008 8:48 PM MST 0 recs
When I watch Amare play, I wish I wasn't being reminded of Zach Randolph
Window Closed? Shit, just break it then.
by ZonaFlash on Dec 4, 2008 8:53 PM MST 0 recs
The Look on Kerr's face
Poor guy…I would hate to be in his shoes…
God I’m so pissed…
How about hiring Avery Johnson?! That’s how desperate I am…
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
by PanamaSun on Dec 4, 2008 8:53 PM MST 0 recs
Kerr deserves everything he gets.
Nice guy, but that’s what inexperience is.
Window Closed? Shit, just break it then.
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Dec 4, 2008 8:59 PM MST
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