Gotta Love the Chuckster
Here's Suns legend and the most entertaining sports personality, weighing in politically, with Wolf Blitzer on CNN.
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Barkley
by Hawk42 on Feb 16, 2008 3:53 PM MST 0 recs
obviously...
by Aluminum Foyle on
Feb 16, 2008 6:29 PM MST
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Sir Charles the Idiot
by Hawk42 on
Feb 18, 2008 5:38 AM MST
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This is ridiculous
So thank goodness one does not have to be an expert to speak about politics (or basketball, for that matter) and thank even more goodness for people like Charles Barkley. For while it is likely true he does not grasp the finer points (or even many of the coarser points) of political science or any other relevant subject, he is, at least, and always has been honest, which is far more than you can say about most (all?) politicians.
Finally, let's not forget that Charles Barkley, being a US citizen and all, does have a vote and, therefore, his political opinions, like yours or mine, are always relevant.
by rosewood on
Feb 18, 2008 11:18 AM MST
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We have created a monster
What makes you think that Charles is 'honest'? do you know him? This society has a strange idea of the definition of 'Honesty'. they seem to think if a person is outspoken and goes against the grain, he is 'honest'. the last time I checked the dictionary, I saw that honesty is a loyalty to the truth, and not obfuscation.
I find it laughable and hypocritical that folks require a level of honesty and openness with public officials that they could never achieve themselves. I am not defending politicians, but they are people subject to pressures, and how is that any different than any of us? The media is amazingly dishonest. My wife teaches high school, and the level of cheating is at an all time high. Kids don't even bother to hide it anymore. If you work at a large corporation, you see how little value is placed on honesty vs. the corporate line. Cops in Berkley look the other way when marine families are attacked. Yet people have somehow determined that one demographic is less honest than another. And youu somehow have determined that a voice on the TV is honest simply because of what?
You miss the point about freedom of speech, as well as most of America. Sure, everyone is guaranteed freedom of speech. But not everyone is guaranteed the right to be listened to. That is a privelege that is earned by reputation and character. Charles has been accorded that privelege due to his status as a celebrity. What hass he done with it? Used it as a platform to spread his inane and unsupportable opinions, when a little kid says, daddy, why did Charles say the word Viagra?
Of course the media does all of this, and most of them have some measure of postsecondary schooling, but I'm not takling about them. Just Charles.
And hang it up about the Bush bashing. As if test scores were everything. Clinton was a Rhodes scholar, and he did nothing except set up 9-11. Character makes a leader, not test scores. Charles says, I am not a role model, then proceeds to demonstrate the truth of his statement. Most of these athletes struggle to get 800 on the SAT. They don't need a test score. They play basketball for gosh sakes. Then when they stop playing, we put a microphone in front of them. Whose fault is that?
by Hawk42 on
Feb 18, 2008 12:07 PM MST
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Geez you sound pissed off...
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by Aluminum Foyle on
Feb 18, 2008 6:34 PM MST
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That was so eff'n hilarious...
by kcbrett5 on
Feb 19, 2008 10:01 AM MST
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Hypocrisy
His TV Claim- Conservatives are "fake christians" because they "judge people".
- I consider it Ironic that he has a problems with christians judging people, and yet he is acting as judge and jury on conservatives
- In "Whose afraid of a big black man" Charles lauds Clarence Thomas (more or less the most conservative man in America) as a role model and example for all americans, white or black
- I also consider it hypocritical for a man who spit, hit and constantly flipped off fans to be talking about ethics.
by UASun on
Feb 19, 2008 12:17 PM MST
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So Why Can't I Get on CNN?
Rosewood, I'd be willing to bet you're better educated on more of the important subjects than is the Chuckster. So, why shouldn't you be on a national political show? Why shouldn't I?
This stuff should be reserved for persons who actually know what they're talking about. No, I'm not for censoring who can appear on certain shows, and it's certainly CNN's call (or whatever program wants to put whoever on). The point is that it's all just stupid. All the way around.
My main problem with him talking (or George Clooney or Ted Nugent) politics is that there are so many stupid person out there who listen simply because he's a celebrity.
The Letterman stuff is good, though.
by JSun on
Feb 19, 2008 11:07 AM MST
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Ironically...
"Hell yeah, he did it. OJ's guilty as sin!"
- Charles Barkley
by kcbrett5 on
Feb 16, 2008 6:35 PM MST
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Not the point
by Hawk42 on
Feb 18, 2008 5:45 AM MST
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I understood your point the first time
That's all.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna go soak in my hot tub and relax.
by kcbrett5 on
Feb 18, 2008 8:14 PM MST
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The second part of the interview
He said that he wants to see more black role models who are not athletes. He wants to promote education, etc. Then ... he says he's going to vote Democrat "no matter what" even though he claims to "really like" John McCain (for some, un-expressed reason) and fails to tell anyone why (he could have, for example, said he likes Obama's position on the military operations around the world). He then rambles on and on, and I'm not really sure what he was saying. He is a great basketball player and analyst. If he wants to run for office, he should take some classes on making speeches.
by JSun on Feb 17, 2008 8:26 AM MST 0 recs
Hugely Entertaining
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBzo-PdFT0g
by JSun on Feb 17, 2008 8:34 AM MST 0 recs
pt 2
by jasonsuns1 on
Feb 17, 2008 9:42 PM MST
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Loved this quote from that clip...
by kcbrett5 on
Feb 19, 2008 10:04 AM MST
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More Barkley talk
Barkley vs. the Suns:
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/0218barkleyside.html
Barkley vs. Shaq:
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/0218sunsshaq.html
[cringing in the corner...]
by TexSUN on Feb 18, 2008 10:30 PM MST 0 recs
the first article
I really liked it, some great points, the one about marion and amare and the jealousy of the attention nash gets, it really makes some sense. It's quite funny though, that amare and marion care so much about their rep when it's Nash, the person who doesn't care how he is viewed, that has one of the only good reps in the nba, funny.
Some really good points, for me though, with amare, jury is out until he plays 2 weeks in his natural position. In hindsight, for amare's suspension, he should've gone over to horry and kicked his ass.
And diaw...he could've served pastries...f-ing french. Why couldn't we get the mean head butting soccer player french guy instead of the soft, sleep with all the idiot teenagers of phx guy?
If I see one more picture of diaw half naked with 5-10 young phx girls, he looks like an idiot,
by jasonsuns1 on
Feb 19, 2008 9:56 AM MST
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I smell envy....
by Phoenix Stan on
Feb 19, 2008 10:32 AM MST
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Envy?
Charles is right-on about Amare's rebounding. Really, he is. The dude's huge. Maybe not freakishly Shaq, Yao or Howard huge, but he's a big guy. There's no reason that he shouldn't be averaging ten rebounds a game.
Some of the other stuff ... I don't know. I do like, though, that Charles says what he thinks and usually admits when he's been wrong (like with GSW last year). Maybe he's not always right, but (in basketball) he's right more often than he's wrong, and at least he gives his opinions rather than fence-riding babbling.
by JSun on
Feb 19, 2008 11:12 AM MST
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criticism of STAT
by Hawk42 on
Feb 21, 2008 8:01 AM MST
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no
hard workers, you don't see them partying all the time
diaw, (do you have an argument against this? I doubt it) is very inconsistent, it could be said that his disappearing act caused us a chance at the title last yr.
I'm just saying, he's not serious about basketball, he's too busy thinking of himself, envy...no...
It's a mistake to think every man thinks with his di.. first.., just most men maybe..
by jasonsuns1 on
Feb 19, 2008 12:35 PM MST
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The moose is loose
Charles certainly gives us something to talk about.
by Hawk42 on
Feb 20, 2008 5:20 AM MST
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only for 12 more hours
by Phoenix Stan on
Feb 20, 2008 6:45 AM MST
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Charles is an idiot
by UASun on Feb 19, 2008 12:09 PM MST 0 recs
I swear...
by Aluminum Foyle on Feb 19, 2008 8:28 PM MST 0 recs
on charles
by jasonsuns1 on
Feb 19, 2008 10:34 PM MST
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Just because he's a Suns MVP, I don't have to like
"Speaking your mind" is not a virtue if there's nothing in it. Better be thought a fool, than to open your mouth, and remove all doubt.
by Hawk42 on
Feb 20, 2008 5:30 AM MST
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