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Time for the Suns to Play Underdog Ball

As I was watching the Suns play the 76ers last night, I found myself at one point a little bit jealous of 76er fans. Their team had come into the USAC with their "A" game in tow, faced down the giants, and worked so hard to earn a victory that it seemed like something in the cosmic fabric of decency would be offended if they came up short. Watching them play, you had the feeling they would be absolutely crushed (or at least good and mad) if they didn't hang on to win--and positively elated if they did. I imagine that for 76er fans, this game was pure joy to watch, not just for the "W" in the boxscore, but also for the passion and exuberance on the faces of the players. You know, kind of like watching the Suns used to be not so long ago.

These days--and this dates back to some degree even before the trade--the Suns look like they're just biding their time for the playoffs to start. On one hand, they are trying to work in a major change to their lineup. The focus is clearly on completing this task by May, not worrying about the daily grind. The problem is, you have to actually win in the regular season or all that post-season planning won't matter. You also have to practice locating your "A" game switch now, so when the time comes, you'll know right where to find it. The West is way too tough to be acting like these games don't count. It's time for the Suns to start playing like underdogs, because compared to the other Western Conference contenders, it's looking more and more each day like that's what they are.

Losing Shawn Marion predictably blew open a big hole in the defense, and I'm not sure the Suns have the personnel to fix it this season. But they could start by playing with the kind of intensity they showed in the pre-Shaq games following the trade. In those games, they knew they were short-handed and played accordingly. Did it always work? No. In fact, it only worked three of the five times they played between Marion's departure and Shaq's debut. But the losses were both by two points, and one was in double-overtime. Now, tell me Shaq (however ill-fitting he might be) wouldn't have been good for two points? The problem is, with Shaq on the floor, the Suns seem to think they don't need to play scrappy on defense. Well, they do. They showed they can in that game against Boston when they held the team with the league's best record to a mere 77 points. Credit some of it to Kevin Garnett's rustiness, and bad shooting by the Celtics in general, but we also had Shaq diving for loose balls, Amare getting in KG's face, and the Suns taking a lot of pride in winning "ugly". Yet, it seemed like once they proved to themselves they could do it, they just switched it off and stashed it away in the closet to be pulled out again in May.

But it isn't just the defense that is suffering. The Suns simply look rudderless at times, like they desperately need somebody to get angry, step up, and take command. So, here's where I'm going to flip-flop a little and say I think it all starts with Steve Nash. I've been saying since the trade that Nash is no longer as important to the team as he was before. On paper, the Suns are set up to be a traditional "throw it into the post" team that can run the offense through their big guys, and Amare is now "the man". But you know what? Scrap that. Maybe that will (and should?) be the plan for next season when the Suns will have a full training camp and preseason to work with, but for now, I think it's time for Nash to dust off his MVP hat, put this team on his possibly-aching back, and lead the Suns into the post-season one more time.

I say "possibly-aching", because Nash has really not looked like himself lately. Too many turnovers, too many missed shots, too many mistakes in general. I keep expecting any day now to see an article in the Arizona Republic that he's nursing an aching back, shoulder, hamstring or other major body part. He's looked a lot like he did in that series against the Clippers back in 2006--like something is very, very wrong. Yet, last night between a few of those late-game gaffes that doomed the Suns' comeback attempt, there were a couple of signs that "MVP Nash" is still in there somewhere. He had two big gutsy three-pointers and an assist to Amare in the span of 19 seconds. If you go back to just before that sequence, he also used his veteran craftiness to get himself fouled at the three-point line, then sank all three free throws. That's nine straight points and an assist in about 45 seconds of game time. That's amazing, even when your competition is a 26-33 Eastern Conference team you should be hammering. It's also infectious. It's the kind of thing that spills over to your teammates and makes them believe they can beat anyone no matter how hopeless it seems. That's what we're going to need more of if the Suns are going to make a legitimate run at the championship this year.

I know saying Nash is the key is kind of a contradiction to what it appears the Suns need most. The Suns are struggling on defense above all else, and Nash is arguably the biggest reason why. And then there's the very real possibility that he's simply too physically worn down or injured, although nothing has been said in the media about that. However, Nash has made a career out of overcoming his weaknesses by ramming his strengths down the other team's throat to the point those weaknesses no longer matter. That's the kind of mindset that the Suns need as a team right now. They need to find that one thing they do better than anyone else in the league, and start using it to crush people again. They need to play resilient, relentless "underdog ball" like they did in 2006. They need to step on the floor each night with guns ablaze and an attitude that says "it's us against the world". There's nobody in the league better at that than Nash.

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"If we're going down,

let's go down in a blaze of glory!"
"You can never have too many shooters." - Cotton

by ZonaFlash on Mar 2, 2008 3:59 PM MST reply actions  

LOL!
Yeah, just watched 3:10 to Yuma. The whole last-ditch, desperate western shootout theme was on my mind I guess. :)

by TexSUN on Mar 2, 2008 5:10 PM MST up reply actions  

If
We play the same way next time, there's something very wrong with coach D. Anyway you slice it, if this team begin to suck right now, it's his fault. A lot of coaches can get more out of their team, no matter how bad it is.

But I guess we can always blame Kerr. It's easier. What made this team so good wasn't Marion, and it wasn't exactly the chemistry. The Suns are quite possibly the most talented team in the NBA. That if everybody starts playing as so. They were with Marion on the Squad, and they are with Shaq around. We've been the best team in the league for about 3-4 years. We didn't win jack shit. And we're always blaming the easier thing (injuries, refs, now Kerr). Maybe, just maybe, we should get explanations from the guy who can't get this team to play like it can. Maybe we should point at the players for playing like crap. Or we can play it safe, and blame the most confortable. And we won't win shit while doing it.

Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone

by Nobs on Mar 2, 2008 5:08 PM MST reply actions  

Well said
I guess you are back of the DL and pumping out MVP like posts again
where monsters hap

by Seth Pollack on Mar 2, 2008 5:24 PM MST reply actions  

The Little Overachievers need to Grow Up
The Suns have spent the last few years being the league's most notorious little over-achievers.

It should be amazing the Suns have achieved so much in the past with the pieces they had.  

I'm all for working on a team that can beat you two ways.  After all two ways are better than one.  

"You can never have too many shooters." - Cotton

by ZonaFlash on Mar 2, 2008 6:26 PM MST reply actions  

Lucky
First, let me say I really enjoy this site. In fact, every time the Suns lose I log in to get my daily dose of schadenfreude.
Second, I feel very fortunate today after watching my Lakers pull one out. Lucky, really. They had no business winning that game. The thing I wanted to say was I think the Shaq move was sold so well that like you've mentioned everyone did a 180 within 24 hours of the deal. But the guy is through. He can put up 15 and 10 every night, but the Suns aren't going to win if he turns the ball over six times or gets winded. Maybe Marion wasn't the answer. I think you guys need more shooters really and obviously some D. But you take Marion out of the equation and add Shaq and few things happen. Stat blows up but Hill immediately ages because he's not a big shooter. I'm still puzzled why the Suns ever did this. What if they had gone out and added some more scoring instead of a creaky old big? Yeah, they weren't good against the West to begin with but that doesn't mean they couldn't win come playoff time. Now, I don't think they have a prayer.

by Lakes on Mar 2, 2008 6:28 PM MST reply actions  

The Suns did it because

Marcus Banks made them do it
"You can never have too many shooters." - Cotton

by ZonaFlash on Mar 2, 2008 6:33 PM MST up reply actions  

on the shooters point
Been thinking the same thing for months, even last year, Bell and L.B are among the leagues best shooters, especially Bell. On the shaq trade, I think if our trainers had a few months with him, plus he's actually motivated (which speaks poorly of his reasons to play), I think we'd been ok, but it's pretty clear we're missing marion's D and steals badly. I liked trading Marion, and I was really hoping the shaq trade was going to work, but I think our problems lie with Nash right now, not shaq. Nash is making turnovers like Kobe scores. Players grow and learn what to expect, the other teams know Nash is looking to pass first, and have changed the way they guarded him accordingly. I think we need to have diaw be the guard and make Nash become the wing scorer and passer

by jasonsuns1 on Mar 2, 2008 7:18 PM MST up reply actions  

The Thrill is Gone
I love this team to death, but for the past few months I'm not feeling the same excitement or intensity of the past. Part of it to me is the saturation of excellence. The Suns have been so good for awhile, that it seems to be the norm, and norms do get taken for granted. The second is all this concern for a Championship. Stress has finally reached this team, and has choked the creativity, flare, and fun out of this squad, that made it a contender.
Its time to get back to basics.
Bring back the dash from 2005, bring back the heart from 2006, and hopefully the boys will bring home rings. If not, at least we'll have an era we can be proud to have witnessed
"Act well your part: there all the honor lies"-Alexander Pope

by PurplePinoy on Mar 2, 2008 10:15 PM MST reply actions  

Marion who?
Shawn Marion has already started bitching in Miami, according to an interview in Miami.  He says his team mates are not trying hard enough, which implies he is.  Remember one of his last games here when he scored 2 points and had two rebounds?  I think Marion had better look in the mirror.  It was time for him to go but whether or not Shaq is the answer remains to be seen.  Against Philly neither he or Nash could hold on to the ball.  Did you notice that there were times when the two wings were behind Nash when he was dribbling up the court?  Do you call that a fast break when the point guard is leading the charge and the rest of the team is loafing behind?  And, how about Doris?  Is he too lazy to put the effort into a whole game?  This team is about to miss the playoffs unless someone starts kicking some ass.

by OneSunsFan on Mar 3, 2008 9:02 AM MST reply actions  

It's Amare time
That someone has to be Amare.  Nobody else is going to do it.  Let's face it, he has the skills of a McGrady or James, even Kobe.  But he needs to take the next rung up the ladder and play defense like he would like his teammates to do.  They'll follow.
'07-'08 Suns: It's clobberin' time!

by Hawk42 on Mar 3, 2008 12:39 PM MST reply actions  

Absolutely agree - for next season.
Amare has earned it and it's time. The Suns need to do everything possible to make Amare the indisputable "man" on the team next season, even if that means changing up the personnel around him to make it work. However, I think for the rest of this season, that's too big a change to make, given what little time is left. Yes, make Amare the first option on offense whenever it's there. The Suns are already doing that. But this is Nash's mess to figure out for the next few months. He's the best guy equipped to handle it under the present situation (trying to turn what's starting to look like a bunch of miss-matched pieces into something resembling a cohesive team). For the long-term, though, I'm starting to wonder if having Nash, Amare, and Shaq all in the starting lineup is going to be just too steep a defensive mountain to climb. Would love to see Nash and Amare become sort of a Stockton-Malone pair (with "Malone" getting the credit he's due), but with Shaq around, maybe if the opportunity arises to send Nash to a contender in the East and get back a defensive-minded PG who can hang with his own man, the Suns will have to think hard about doing that. Could end up being a win-win situation for everyone if it turns out there's just no possible way for those three to co-exist on the same team without giving up 120 points a game. If it comes to that, though, I'd rather just see Shaq retire early or come off the bench. The Suns wouldn't be the same without Nash.

by TexSUN on Mar 3, 2008 1:00 PM MST up reply actions  

I can't see us trading Nash
I would hate everyone on the Suns organization if we done that. We could get more D from our SG and SF guys. Raja and Grant are not helping like they should. We can live with one bad defender. But the whole team needs to pick that up.

I think that Amare is indeed our future. I think he'll be the top scorer in the league. He's getting better at the same rate that Raja is getting worse.

I don't remember if we ever tried this, but why doesn't coach D let Barbosa start? Ok, he's the super 6th man. But wouldn't that work too? We would have Raja, DJ and Le Fatso coming out of the bench. That's not too bad, is it? Also, why the fuck is Lint getting any playing time? We forgot about Alando? Why didn't we trade for Gerald Green? There are some things I may never understand about basketball...

Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone

by Nobs on Mar 3, 2008 1:12 PM MST up reply actions  

SG and SF
Yeah, Raja has definitely slipped on both ends of the floor. Maybe it's just an "injury season" for him, because he's not looked right all year, or maybe he's hitting the decline a little earlier than expected. But he sure isn't helping the situation. On the other hand, I don't really like LB in the starting lineup either, because LB is a worse defender than Bell even on a bad day, despite his speed advantage. What I'd really love to see is DJ work on his shot to the point that he can take the reigns from Bell. I think with another year under his belt, he could really be a big boost to both our defense and our energy if he wasn't such a liability on offense.

Hill is giving it his best from the SF spot, but he's not Marion. Picking up some defensive-minded youth in that position might help, but very few in the league can do what Marion does (play PG on defense and SF/PF on offense). Nash and Marion kind of made for a nice symbiotic pairing. Each did a great job of covering the others weaknesses while maximizing the other's strengths. That why that duo was always near the top of the Levano +/-. It's going to be tough finding someone to replace that.

So, about trading Nash, I would probably cry if the Suns did that. Seriously. But I'd rather see him traded to a contender than finish out his career languishing on a team that barely makes the playoffs because they can't defend pick and roll, the perimeter, or any center that can run the floor.

by TexSUN on Mar 3, 2008 1:28 PM MST up reply actions  

Nash
Watch out about the trading Nash thing.  I think he can play another 3-4 years or so feeding Amare, but there's a GM in Toronto waiting to snap Steve up if the Suns don't resign him.  Shaq, there's no questiion.  You don't resign him.  Even if we somehow win 2 championships the next two years.

The NBA may never again see the freakish talent package of the Matrix.  I only wish he could have figured out how to belend in with the other egos  Instead of getting so much from one player, now everyone has to commit to defense.

'07-'08 Suns: It's clobberin' time!

by Hawk42 on Mar 4, 2008 7:23 AM MST up reply actions  

IF....
We somehow win two championships (or even one, or even get back to legit "contender" status) then everything I said above is irrelevant. What I meant was, if it turns out there's just no way to fix the defense with defensively-challenged individuals at PG, PF, and center all on the floor at once, and the Suns continue to look like they're closer to the lottery than a ring, then I'd say it's time to think about it. Amare won't go because he's too young and promising. Shaq won't go because it's very unlikely there's another team in the league willing to go anywhere near that contract. That leaves Steve, who like I said, as much as I would hate to see him go, I'd rather see him playing on a team that can give him a good shot of winning a ring than languishing out the rest of his career on a team that struggles just to make the playoffs. Hopefully, this is all just pessimistic drivel that I'll be embarrassed to have written a month from now. :)

by TexSUN on Mar 4, 2008 8:22 AM MST up reply actions  

of corrse
I understand, I was just nailing down with some irrelevant and completely impossible hyperbole the truth that NO MATTER WHAT, we let Shaq's contract expire with no attempt to revive it...
'07-'08 Suns: It's clobberin' time!

by Hawk42 on Mar 4, 2008 11:55 AM MST up reply actions  

Calderon
If you can get Calderon in the off season in a sign and trade for Nash you do it...I don't think that's possible on so many levels but..
Phx - where Hrvati happen

by Seth Pollack on Mar 4, 2008 4:08 PM MST up reply actions  

Gerald Grreen
I advocated getting Green, Kerr wouldn't listen to me.
'07-'08 Suns: It's clobberin' time!

by Hawk42 on Mar 4, 2008 7:14 AM MST up reply actions  

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