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Game 2 - The Plan

Fun's over. Now its time to get serious and break this sucka down...

[Note by Phoenix Stan, 04/22/08 3:03 PM PDT ]

Update on Grant Hill's status:

Suns coach Mike D'Antoni said he would start guard Leandro Barbosa in place of Hill, which would give him roughly six days of rest between games if he sits tonight and starts Game 3 on Friday at home.

  

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Line-up

 

This all depends on Grant’s groin being ready to perform which is an unknown at this point. All the talk from the Suns camp is positive but they were saying the same things before Game 1. Because we don’t really know what’s going on here’s two options:

 

Option 1 – Hill starts

In this case I would start Barbosa instead of Bell. Bell’s minutes should mirror Ginobili’s. I am not ready to give up on Bell’s ability to D up on this guy. I have watched him play defense too long to think that he’s not going to stand and deliver.

 

To keep him focused on that he shouldn’t start the game unless Manu does. Manu comes in, Bell comes in. Manu goes to pee, Bell goes to pee. Get in that guy’s shorts and don’t come out until the buzzer sounds.

 

With Manu off the floor, LB isn’t the normal defensive liability and he can get some run outs and perhaps even attack Duncan and Thomas early in the game and see if he can’t pick up a few cheap fouls - drawing fouls apparently and unfortunately is part of the strategy to win games.

 

Option 2 – Hill doesn’t start

In this case I don’t think you can have two different guys start so you leave Bell in and see if you can get him hot early with his shot and then also start Giricek.

 

Gordan can spread the floor and create in the mid-range and he’s certainly not a liability on defense. He just needs to avoid picking up some cheap fouls like he tends to do when he’s coming off the bench. I think he’s got enough experience to handle this.

 

Boris is another option that I liked until Rosewood pointed out correctly that Boris on the floor with Amare and Shaq would screw up the spacing and rotations.

 

 

Defense

 

Defending Duncan in the post

There’s not much else to be done here. In the instances where the Suns doubled Duncan it did not turn out well. In the instances where they left Duncan alone against Amare or Diaw it did not turn out well.

 

Amare and Diaw can work hard to deny the pass and front on occasion but Duncan is Duncan and there’s only so much you can do.

 

The only real adjustment I saw was perhaps trying to force Duncan to spin to the middle instead of baseline and have the other big come over and help as he’s executing his move...

  

[Note by Phoenix Stan, 04/22/08 1:11 PM PDT ]

 

I forgot to add - look for Shaq to start the game on Duncan tonight. Normally, the Suns have been starting Amare on Timmy and moving Shaq over later. I think they are going to flip that around this time.

 

Pick and Roll D

There’s a reason this is the most used play in the game. Its hard to defend. The Spurs ran a twist though and ran a few screens before initiating the play and used one big to draw Shaq out of the paint and used their other big to seal in the lane.

 

Watch this and note how Oberto seals Diaw to open that huge path for Parker

 

Now, watch the play this time with KT doing the same thing except this time Shaq chases Parker and blocks his shot

 

There are a few options to defend the pick and roll.

 

In this one Babosa goes under the screen and Amare leaves Kurt to help in the lane. Parker makes the right pass and KT get’s an open look but you can live with that.

 

In this clip Barbosa and Shaq switch and Parker tries to hit the roll man and LB deflects the pass. Who says LB can’t play defense!

 

I think you need to mix it up and have a few options prepared. Sometimes you switch. Sometimes you go under the screen and make the guy shoot. Sometime you collapse and make them pass.

 

The Suns certainly need to prepare for that play where they are getting sealed in the lane and fight through that. I will be watching closely for this tonight.

 

Isolation on Ginobili and Parker

Not much else to say here. Make them work to catch the ball, force Manu to his right and perhaps make Parker prove he can hit his jump shot before playing up on him.

 

Communication on help D is key. Sometimes though you can play it perfectly and a great player is going to make a tough shot. Like this one.

 

Offense

 

I don’t have any adjustments here. The Suns played well and shot 50% in Game 1.

 

They can score on this Spurs team because they are so balanced and just need to continue doing what they do. I do expect Nash to have an even better game and hope that the bench can continue to provide some scoring.

 

 

 

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Bad Groin

Gambo is saying Hill is doubtful for today. Start Barbosa.

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Apr 22, 2008 2:57 PM MDT   0 recs

Well Said....

Also, if Boris can stay aggressive and take his open shots all 4 quarters we’ll be in great shape. They have a hard time playing us when Boris is on his game. If he can play well on both ends of the floor for 4 straight quarters we win handily, but games like that are unfortunately rare…....especially in the playoffs.

by carlosg_7 on Apr 22, 2008 2:59 PM MDT   0 recs

Pick and Roll

Unless Shaq is in the game, I don’t understand why we don’t trap hard on the screen and roll against Parker (or Ginobili, but his size makes him a better passer). Even if he passes, either Duncan, Oberto or KT have to finish on the move, and the other Spurs big will be sealing his man into the rolling player (as opposed to away from the driving guard).

So to finish the Spurs guards would have to first make the PNR pass then the bigs either finish on a contested layup/short jumper or make a second pass to the sealing big. That’s got a lot less margin for error than driving straight to the cup for a layup.

Stan’s right though, the Spurs will adjust quickly if we start this, so we need to mix it up. Pop’s too smart. Let’s just hope we’re not in foul trouble so we can use those options.

You're not going to fall for the banana in the tail pipe?

by rosewood on Apr 22, 2008 3:15 PM MDT   1 recs

Unless Shaq is in the game....

kind of the elephant in the room isn’t it? :)

by Phoenix Stan on Apr 22, 2008 3:25 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh, yeah I forgot to talk about that

The video where Shaq blocks Parker shows a good example of what to do. Sag Shaq. He’s too slow to come out. So we concede a jumper to Ginobili and Parker unless they want to drive on Shaq. It’s not great, but it’s better than Ginobili in 2OT defense.

You're not going to fall for the banana in the tail pipe?

by rosewood on Apr 22, 2008 3:31 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh and to Steve, Gordan, and Leandro

NEVER leave Barry, Finley, Bowen, or Udoka.

You're not going to fall for the banana in the tail pipe?

by rosewood on Apr 22, 2008 3:19 PM MDT   0 recs

PHOENIX-SAN ANTONIO

OH MY GOD I’M SO PSYCHED IM EVEN MORE PSYCHED THAN LAST GAME!!! MAKE IT RAIN 3’S NASH!!!

by RealTangiblesGuy on Apr 22, 2008 3:53 PM MDT   0 recs

Not too much to adjust, the battle is within

The Suns showed last game that they have the plan and the personnel to get it done. What they haven’t shown yet is the mental focus to avoid mistakes and seal the deal.

Amare must contain himself and stay on the court. Shaq must resist the urge to lower that shoulder and run people over. Raja must remember to send Manu and his bald spot right. Boris must take advantage of his opportunities, and Nash and LB need to take care of the ball. We are on the cusp now, it is time to slay the dragon.

by SoCalSun on Apr 22, 2008 4:23 PM MDT   0 recs

Ditch the orange crush unis!

Hopefully, they will wear road purple tonight as they last won in S.A. in purple, not orange! I am superstitious and besides, the orange makes my eyes hurt!!!

by TwinnerA on Apr 22, 2008 5:02 PM MDT   1 recs

Great point!

I actually love the Orange but they didn’t work last time…I am changing ALL my routines. No Matrix #31 that I wore Saturday that’s for sure!

by Phoenix Stan on Apr 22, 2008 5:14 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

That explains it

You should’ve sworn off Marion before Game 1. You were the jinx. Embrace your new Shaqtus Overlord.

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Apr 22, 2008 5:42 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

I tell you what

If they win tonight – I will get myself a Shaq shirt and wear it to game 4…

by Phoenix Stan on Apr 22, 2008 5:57 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Let's Rumble

In a gesture of good sportsmanship, I wish you guys a good game. We both know that statement is bull shit but I do respect your team. This is the best Suns team I’ve seen yet. Hopefully, game 2 will be just as exciting as game 1. With the same results of course. Go Spurs.

Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.

by CMoney on Apr 22, 2008 5:22 PM MDT   0 recs

with video

I loved this post, it’s very interesting, and for those who are in trouble watching the games (I don’t speak about those in trouble to precisely WIN the games…), it’s very fun to have the video.
By the way, i like the new website, and congratulation Phoenix stan for your nomination here, and thanks to TexSun.

By the way too, I really don’t care other people root for other team, even SAS, and I really don’t care when we share trash talking with my friends about the different teams we root for. But I really don’t lik when Spurs or Lakers fans come here and post stupid comments (it’s not directerd toward Ldeep or Cmoney personnaly) or when we have to share our thoughts with SAS fans during games. That’s why I don’t post on SAS or LA fan’s blog, because I respect them as long as I don’t see them too much; I don’t need to go there and say you’re finish, we’re the best… and during the past few days, I read a lot of things really bad here and there. Can we just restrain these interactions? I’m not very involved in the Spurs hate contest, but for the last couple of days, I sure hate them like I never did before! That’s good to stay together, isn’t it?

Finally, I didn’t watch the game yesterday, but these offensive droughts are very very painful. When the Suns recorded a 9 points 4th quarter, we said that the probability they again score 9 points in any quarter during playoff was close to 0. Here we are, with a 11 points 3rd quarter…

It was not that bad to finally lose the first game, it’s perhaps not so bad to lose the first two, but I’m sure it could have helped to solve some of the “mental toughness issue” the player seem to lack at it was pointed here and there yesterday. It could have proved them they can seize any opportunity, and that they can maintain the momentum to close the things… They did’nt manage to do either one .

I hope the season is not over in one week…
(is it me or did we have a really poor bench?)

where full french Diaw will absolutely own the other French (what's is name?)

by warmup on Apr 23, 2008 2:16 AM MDT   1 recs

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