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No Joy in Sunsville

That had to be the most depressing blowout playoff victories over a hated rival, ever.

You could feel going into the game that the crowd was completely on edge (those that even bothered to come) and as my season ticket holder row-mate said, "If the Suns don't take an early lead this crowd is going to get quiet fast."

And even after the Suns did jump out to a quick 25 - 5 advantage the one's on their feet cheering were the "I'm excited to be at a playoff game" fans (more power to them) and not the slog through decade after decade of post season disappointment dishards.

We just sat quietly well aware that no matter the margin of victory today, the outcome was meaningless. The anger still boils.

 

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As I explained to my wife when she asked why I wasn't more excited about the win - talk to me if they can win two more. In the mean time this is still the same team that couldn't muster enough energy, passion or smarts to find a way not to get into a 0- 3 hole in the first round. This game proved nothing.

Credit to Raja Bell for showing why he's the heart and soul of this team. When someone needed to step up and lead by example on the floor it was Raja that came out and imposed his will and lead the way.

Credit Boris for a good game. Suns fans know what he's capable of and know that while its reasonable to get a performance like that occasionally, its not something that can be counted on. So, before you get too high on Diaw, just remember those same shots against smaller players he was making in the post today are the same one's he was missing in Game 2. D'Antoni wasn't an idiot for going to him then and he wasn't a genius for going to him today.

Credit the Coach for FINALLY recognizing that Half a Hill wasn't going to get it done. The greatest mistake in this series was not benching Hill for the first two games. D'Antoni said as much in his post-game interview.

Credit the Suns defense for finally adjusting to the pick and roll by putting a longer player on Parker and more for just playing energetic rotate and recover defense. Effort and energy. Funny how that works. 

I would really like to think that there's something wrong with Amare's shoulder or elbow. The alternative is that he came out in an elimination game and went 3 for 11 because he wasn't into the game. But credit him for this bit of post-game candor when he admitted that the Suns finally came out and played with energy for 48 minutes.

Color me stupid for defending this team all year when they blew off winnable games with the "no energy" excuse. I figured that at this point in their careers, with the amount of playoff experience and veteran leadership that there was no way they would go into a playoff series and not bring it each game for the entire game. Obviously, I gave them too much credit.

That's why there is no joy in Sunsville. In the end, those of us that follow this team through each and every minute of the season know that while they brought it today, there's no reason to think they will do so three more times. In a row. Twice on the road. Against the San Antonio Spurs.

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Well I gotta say that is certainly true about this game. Whats the point of really having passion for this game when the Suns are dug deep in a 3-0 (now 3-1) hole? Personally I’m mildly hopeful now, but I wont show any true hope until we win on Tuesday. If we win that game then suddenly the hope meter goes from “Dark Despair” to “Maybe, Just Maybe.” Even then though we’d still have to tie things back up at home, very doable btw. The killer though would of course be winning in San Antonio in Game 7, and though I’m mildly confident that they could take it to six, winning two game in San Anton would be a Herculean effort to say the least.

Well here’s to hope ladies and gentlemen, because even after this blowout W that’s all we have to go off of.

"I have heard that in war haste can be folly, but have never seen delay that was wise." Sun Tzu The Art of War

by Turambar on Apr 27, 2008 6:49 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

phoenix stan...

sad, angry post, nothing I could argue though…sadly. It’s the energy or lack of energy that bothers me more than anything. And then when we see it, you wonder why it can’t be brought each game.

On the plus side, we won, we didn’t get swept, and I think we can win the next one. I’m not thinking ahead, I’m just focused on the next game and hoping the energy (the team’s) and the leadership (bell / others) that showed up tonight reappears Tuesday. Great point on the coach / diaw / genius comments. Simply said, Diaw was missing those same shots that he made today. I like our chances with Shaq on duncan and diaw on parker, if hill is healthy for tuesday to go against manu / or bell….I think we have a fair to good shot at winning. The start was key, come out with high energy, here’s looking forward to Tuesday!!

by be-the-ball on Apr 27, 2008 6:52 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

The start is fine and all but....

it’s the finish that matters. Both games 1 and 2 had great starts, but then in the second half they let up and allowed the Spurs back in. Today was different though as the Suns twisted the dagger deeper and deeper into the Spurs until it was obvious they couldnt come back. That is what made the big difference in today’s game.

"I have heard that in war haste can be folly, but have never seen delay that was wise." Sun Tzu The Art of War

by Turambar on Apr 27, 2008 6:58 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree a little,

obviously the end matters the most, but we didn’t have 20+ leads in the first Q in the other 3 games. Let alone production from LB, Bell, and Diaw. It’s normally Amare, Nash and Shaq scoring but to see those 3 do so well was really great! Plus, we had Diaw all over Parker this game, we didn’t do that in the first 3 games if I recall, it was multiple smaller guys. Diaw really was the mvp tonight!

by be-the-ball on Apr 27, 2008 7:04 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

We need to win a close game in SAN ANTONIO

If we can do that on Tuesday, then we will get the spirit back.

by sonicking on Apr 27, 2008 7:04 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

although it’s nice to get swept, your analysis is spot-on. Something about hard work beats talent when talent doesn’t work hard. The suns thought they would win because they deserved to but didn’t put in the work, physical or mental, in games 1 through 3. It’s sad, too….Such a waste of a season for such a talented team.

by ArizonaCactus on Apr 27, 2008 7:05 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

If we continue to get production from LB, Bell and Diaw

like today, we’re going to quickly get back into this series. I’m optimistic

by be-the-ball on Apr 27, 2008 7:06 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm cautious

production from them wont matter if we cant keep a lid on at least one of the Spurs three stars like we did today. I’m looking toward the next game and only the next game now, because it’s a very deep hole that we must climb out of.

"I have heard that in war haste can be folly, but have never seen delay that was wise." Sun Tzu The Art of War

by Turambar on Apr 27, 2008 7:11 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

yep

slowing down their big three is key, cool outlaw josey wales pic!!

“Well, Mr. Carpetbagger (hmmm spurs fans). We got somethin’ in this territory called the Missouri boat ride!!”

later

by be-the-ball on Apr 27, 2008 7:21 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

yeah I love the Outlaw Josey Wales. I just hope the Suns can come out in game 5 playing like Mr. Josey Wales, cold blooded and merciless.

"I have heard that in war haste can be folly, but have never seen delay that was wise." Sun Tzu The Art of War

by Turambar on Apr 27, 2008 7:25 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Turambar...do me a favor

If we happen to not get past the spurs…will you pretend to be clint eastwood and I’ll pretend to be the kid in josey wales, and I’ll lay dying, and I’ll ask you if we got em, and you say…as I die…yeah kid we got him.

by be-the-ball on Apr 27, 2008 7:25 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

So it shall be written...

so it shall be done.

"I have heard that in war haste can be folly, but have never seen delay that was wise." Sun Tzu The Art of War

by Turambar on Apr 27, 2008 7:30 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

New Sun Tzu quote

should provide some hope. If only we had Sun Tzu to marshall the Army of the Suns. sigh

"Troops in desperate straights know no fear. Where there is no escape, they stand firm; When they have entered deep, they persist; When they see no hope, they fight." Sun Tzu The Art of War

by Turambar on Apr 27, 2008 7:39 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Not to be a contrarian, but...

I’ll take this over the alternative.

by Mike Lisboa on Apr 27, 2008 8:14 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Of course

and before the game I said a sweep was unacceptable…I am just “reporting” the mood as I saw it and felt it and personally believe it.

This game doesn’t erase what came before. Its only prevents the hole from getting deeper.

by Phoenix Stan on Apr 27, 2008 8:56 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I feel you..

Well I guess that what helped the Suns today was that I didnt watch the game!
Just came back from the beach and I was at peace with the Suns getting swept today, only to look at the boxscore and find the pleasant surprise.
Hope this game means more to the team than what it means to us. I hope the can LEARN from this win and keep the defense and offense adjustments for tuesdays game.
Im just glad i will see them play one more time. If we win on tuesday…its a different story.

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Apr 27, 2008 9:12 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Couldn't agree more

It’s like a kid who’s already flunked out for the year getting an A+ on his final exam. Infuriating because it proves he was capable, but he just didn’t put forth the effort.

by TexSUN on Apr 27, 2008 9:36 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Great way to put it

"Troops in desperate straights know no fear. Where there is no escape, they stand firm; When they have entered deep, they persist; When they see no hope, they fight." Sun Tzu The Art of War

by Turambar on Apr 27, 2008 9:41 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed - great way to put it.

Where doubting Thomases believe

by ZonaFlash on Apr 28, 2008 3:03 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

D'Antoni's rejection

I found this on si.com <http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/basketball/nba/specials/playoffs/2008/04/27/fast.breaks.suns.spurs/index.html>

“D’Antoni got ejected after collecting two technicals with 3:58 left in the game. After Diaw and the Robert Horry became entangled, D’Antoni said to referee Scott Foster, “Now if that happens, which one do you figure held on to the other and which one do you figure flopped?” “That’s enough,” Foster told him. “That’s the first thing I said the whole game,” said D’Antoni, at which point Foster T-ed him. Then D’Antoni said, “I have your evaluation sheet on my desk right now.” Referee David Jones heard that remark, hit with another T and tossed him. “

by sonicking on Apr 27, 2008 10:00 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Diaw a poor finisher

but he was a great defender. We can count on the defense. He was also a nice distributor – 8 assists and only 1 TO until he started playing with the butterball scrubs in the 4Q.

Where doubting Thomases believe

by ZonaFlash on Apr 28, 2008 3:02 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I concede

in the great “Start Diaw or Giricek?” debate that the facts bore you out.

Well played sir, well played.

by Phoenix Stan on Apr 28, 2008 8:03 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

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