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Notes from Game 4

I re-watched the game last night with the benefit of clear eyes, full heart and tivo remote....here's a few notes:

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  • The Suns defensive engery to start the game was impressive. It wasn't so much the personnel adjustments or forcing Parker baseline, it was the will and the effort.

  • Seeing that and hearing Mark Jackson and JVG ask exactly the same questions I raised immediately after the game just renewed the frustration. Why can't this team play like this all the time? Or at LEAST all the time during the playoff's. Their answer was that is just wasn't who this team was. I guess that's true but the reason its not who this team has to reside somewhere. Any guess who I am pointing the finger at for not building this team into THAT team?

  • Amare had three fouls in the first half - not a one of them was legit. The first a block on Oberto from behind was all ball. The second, some kind of tangle with KT in the lane away from the ball was totally bogus, and the third he got hit in the face by Parker with the ball and got the call for his trouble...just saying

  • On offense the adjustment to go to Diaw in the post Shaq on the other block obviously worked well. I wonder now if that move got into Amare's head and he sulked his way through the afternoon. They very rarely got Amare the ball in positions he's used to and while that adjustment helped the Suns in one way it will hurt if Amare can't step up and adjust his game as well.

  • When the Spurs started the 3rd quarter with a very small line-up and Finely on Amare, you just knew he would destroy. He torched Finely once on the block and the Spurs adjusted by double-teaming Amare with smalls. Amare didn't pass well and didn't adjust well and dominate.

  • Since the beginning of this series I have noticed that they are going away from Amare when he is guarded by Duncan. I know Timmy is a great defender, but if Amare is going to be The MVP then he can't allow that to stand. He can take Duncan 1:1 and has in the past. I don't know if this is coaching or Amare himself or if the coaching has got into Amare's head by not showing confidence in him. Whatever's going on - its not good.

  • Even with the big win, the leaders on this team weren't the one's that lead this team. It was Raja and Boris. If this thing is going to continue it has to be Nash, Amare and Shaq that pave the way.

  • Does anyone else get the sense though that instead of resilience and defiance in that locker room there is only resignation and accusation?

  • Raja Bell talked about playing hard out of embarrassment of game 3. That's great. Show some heart. But that's not going to get it down for three more games.

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    Oh, Amare...
    On offense the adjustment to go to Diaw in the post Shaq on the other block obviously worked well. I wonder now if that move got into Amare’s head and he sulked his way through the afternoon. They very rarely got Amare the ball in positions he’s used to and while that adjustment helped the Suns in one way it will hurt if Amare can’t step up and adjust his game as well.

    Yet another chink in his MVP armor. MVPs, particularly champions, always find a way to help their team win. Not scoring? Rebound. Hustle on defense. Hell, simply freak out and cheer from the sidelines. Whatever the case, he needs to keep his head in the game even if he’s not getting the ball in his hands.

    by Mike Lisboa on Apr 28, 2008 8:58 AM MDT   0 recs

    On the Bright Side

    The Spurs are focused on NASH, STAT and SHAQ – so contribution from everyone else is crucial.

    Having gotten those contributions, perhaps this will open things up for our MVP stable.

    Perhaps we could feel good to win with those other guys, knowing that you can’t keep our MVPs down forever – they still have big games to come.

    Where doubting Thomases believe

    by ZonaFlash on Apr 28, 2008 9:06 AM MDT   0 recs

    Winners vs Losers

    I truly believe winners bring it every night, up or down. Losers wait until the last moment and go for hail marys. The Suns will not be winners until they develop a killer instinct and treat every game with unmerciful intensity.

    So I’m with you and JVG:

    http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2008/4/26/461520/game-4-the-last-stand#5496221

    Where doubting Thomases believe

    by ZonaFlash on Apr 28, 2008 9:14 AM MDT   0 recs

    sadly

    that’s very accurate

    by be-the-ball on Apr 28, 2008 10:41 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

    Ohh my dear Suns...(sigh)

    Here I am… ready and at peace to let you go…and you come up with this win. Just like Mike said, it’s even more frustrating because we all know that they can beat this team. Why don’t they perform like this every night they play?? Who knows…..
    Tha fact is that they won and (keeping in mind that we have beat them in their house before) you guys gotta be kidding me if you don’t feel at least a slight feeling of hope. If any team can come back from this type of deficit is the Suns.

    As a Yankee fan in 2004, I will never forget what happened. One of my sport heroes, Mariano Rivera, blew the chance to shut the door on the Red Soxs and the rest is history. Could you imagine how the Red sox’s fans felt after they won that series? I want to know that feeling, I want to be on the other side this time.

    "Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

    by PanamaSun on Apr 28, 2008 9:34 AM MDT   0 recs

    I want to believe!

    BTW, PanamaSun – I am hating your signature line right now…thinking about Suns character…

    Where doubting Thomases believe

    by ZonaFlash on Apr 28, 2008 10:04 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

    Sorry

    This team is not suckering me into another few days of hope only to have it dashed again….

    If they can’t show enough heart to at least show up for game 3 then I am not going to give them my heart again that easy…it takes time to rebuild trust destroyed by a cheating partner.

    Btw – I don’t think I am alone here. Talking to long-time fans in the stands Sunday and listening to the radio today…hope is NOT the prevailing emotion in Phoenix right now.

    by Phoenix Stan on Apr 28, 2008 10:19 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

    I totally understand...

    Let’s see what they can do tomorrow and then we can talk about hope?

    "Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

    by PanamaSun on Apr 28, 2008 10:24 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

    It kills me too!

    Man, it’s true. This game brings out the REAL you. If you are selfish or unselfish, if you are in for the fame or money, if you just care about your Stats, if you are mature or not. And more importantly, if you have heart.

    "Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

    by PanamaSun on Apr 28, 2008 10:28 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

    After the season,

    will you right something on what basketball revealed to you about the Suns character?

    I would love to know what you see.

    Where doubting Thomases believe

    by ZonaFlash on Apr 28, 2008 10:30 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

    Sure will Zona

    Let’s just hope the season lasts just a little bit longer! =)

    "Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

    by PanamaSun on Apr 28, 2008 11:05 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

    =)

    Where doubting Thomases believe

    by ZonaFlash on Apr 28, 2008 11:06 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

    This is really nothing new

    The Suns have looked like this all year, and I know I myself have posted many times on it, this team runs on heart and effort. It’s sort of reasonable to expect that that might be missing on a February night in Memphis. It’s inexplicable and unacceptable to see that at home in game 3 of a series you’re down 2-0.

    On the other hand, the Spurs really were flat out unconscious on Friday, more than the Suns coming out flat the Spurs were dialed in from the jump ball. I’m not sure they could have been beaten that night. What that unfortunately really highlights is how costly letting game 1 slip away was.

    Still, we are where we are. Everybody knows the Suns have it in them to win games against the Spurs. The question is will they find that on Tuesday or not?

    by SoCalSun on Apr 28, 2008 1:37 PM MDT   0 recs

    Game 3

    I have had the same thought the the Spurs really were unbeatable that night. That’s going happen in a series but the Suns still had the opportunity to put up more of a fight and at least be give it their best shot and that’s what we didn’t see.

    by Phoenix Stan on Apr 28, 2008 1:45 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

    Suns didn’t put up a fight, but if they had maybe the Spurs would have gone cold and the Suns could have made a run to maybe get it close or pull out a win. It just didn’t look like they even know what hit them from tipoff. It’s like they rolled over at first punch.

    by TwinnerA on Apr 28, 2008 2:48 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

    Sadly, I must concur

    Yeah, the sagging shoulders there in the 3rd quarter were tough to watch. Still, you could see it just wasn’t going to happen (I think late in the 3rd) when Duncan hit that long 2 from the top of the circle to push it back to 20.

    The Suns came out a bit flat, but I am hearing and reading the Nuggets implosion was even worse. LA radio is just killing them.

    I have to say Stan, the experience from my couch on Sunday gave me a vastly different feeling than you posted about having at the arena. No doubt it’s going to be a drag if the season ends tomorrow, but I sure am glad I got to watch the Suns apply that ass-whooping yesterday after 8 days of disappointment. It won’t change the bottom line, but I’d rather be here discussing our chances in game 5 than lamenting the ignominy getting swept out in Phoenix and being the 1st one voted off the island.

    by SoCalSun on Apr 28, 2008 3:56 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

    No doubt

    I wasn’t one of those arguing that a sweep would be a good thing for the Suns. I am glad they showed up and showed some pride.

    It doesn’t change the “too little, too late” calculation. And all I can do is tell you how angry and frustrated I and many other people were during and after that game. Its the Diaw frustration. You except better and when he/they doesn’t deliver its disappointing. When he/they do deliver and show you what could/should have been its all the more infuriating.

    Here’s a story just to show this isn’t me. After the game we stopped by Safeway to pick up a few groceries. A guy stopped us in the produce section and asked if the Suns won. We said yes, and he asked, “then why does everyone wearing orange look so down?”

    by Phoenix Stan on Apr 28, 2008 4:16 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

    its the mentality of the suns team

    we figure we can win when we have to and only play our hardest once in a while (as a team), it sucks to watch the energy level be on one end of the scale for one game, and the opposite the next. Whomever is leading this team (coach..player..) I hold them somewhat responsible for this, but, maybe this team is just parts and doesn’t really have a leader.

    Something very interesting came across my mind, many were talking about amare and how he didn’t score much in the last game. In my view, from what I read (AZrepublic) quote from Amare kind of trashin the coach and the 7 seconds or less idea, I bet some of the Suns are like F… Amare, lets win this on our own. We almost did it 2 years ago, and now we have shaq, I can’t help but think Bell, Diaw, Nash, etc were ticked off at amare turning on his coach so easily. Leave it to our version of J.Howard (dope using mav’s player) ...meaning amare to say stupid stuff. I disagree with some of the coaches decisions…sure, but we were close to winning that first game in which we lead throughout, and I feel the next game is all about one thing, energy….Sadly…with this team…you don’t know until the game starts playing what that energy level will be. Me, personally, I meet Jason the jet terry on a plane and I’m doing “the jet” (with my arms) for days after. I’m an excitable, happy, motivated guy, the suns are off and on,

    I’ll tell you how the nba could easily become the most watched and followed sport, it’ll not happen but the idea is great. Simply have all nba players earn $450,000 a yr. Then all players get all the $$$$$$ extra based on playoff performance of their team. As it currently is, too many nba players get paid way too much….out of control. Players (in general…not all) might talk a good game about wanting to win the title, but with the money they’re making, do you really think they’re that beatup about not winning….oh man…we lost…time to fly to jamaica

    by be-the-ball on Apr 28, 2008 4:20 PM MDT   0 recs

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