and being an obnoxious homer is also just part of the fun…

Although I have to question that women find Steve Nash attractive.

I wonder what that says about the men in Texas???

You’re giving me far too much credit, AusTechSpur. I’m a self-confessed bandwagoner, and everything you said about Nash and why people you know became Suns fans applies to me except for your last two points (I’d like to think that physical attractiveness and race do not factor into whether or not I like watching a guy play basketball-and even if it did, I can think of at least a dozen players off the top of my head that I find more attractive in the purely physical sense than Nash, including other Suns). In fact, I accept that I can never be considered a "true Suns fan" because I didn’t grow up watching this team (or any other). And I don’t get to lose the "bandwagon" label until I’ve made it through at least a couple of different "eras" including a losing one. It’s part of why I decided to step down as administrator of this site-I felt I was doing a disservice to the real Suns fans by trying to run this thing from 1000 miles away and not being able to relate to those who have bled purple and orange since birth.

I’ve told this story before, because I understand the hatred of bandwagon fans. The Red Sox. My college roommate’s wife saw that damned Drew Barrymore movie and became a Red Sox fans. She bought all the crap and everything. He - a long-time Phoenician and Suns’ fan - had to skip a Suns game to which I had 8th row seats to sit in a bar and watch a Patriots playoff game in a Tom Brady jersey. All because of the that stupid movie!

I came to the realization of why the Suns bandwagon fans are hated after reading the boards after the Shaq trade and wrote about it here.

Unfortunately, all Suns’ fans with legitimate complaints began lumped into the group of ESPN-watching, video-game playing bandwagoners who could not understand how, on God’s green earth, the Suns could possibly lose a game outside of a conspiracy or legally blind officials.

Here is what I put in another post on this site (un-edited):

Most of the "whining" from last year was arguably justified. You cannot honestly say that the complaints about the suspensions, the knee to the groin and the kick to the achilles fit into the category of "whining losers." While you may argue about the sanctions (or lack thereof), that does not fit into the category of "ticky-tack" whining. That fits into the category of justifiable (even if misplaced) anger.

Notably, going into last year’s series, most fans were upset that the Suns players respected the San Antonio players too much. There was a perception of too much reverence, not enough disprect for the opponent. Before that, the rivalry was at a relatively low temperature. Suns had beaten the Spurs a few times in the decade before and the Spurs were getting the best of the last few years. That was all.

There was a combination of "new" Suns fans that couldn’t ever understand how the Suns could possibly lose and those who felt wronged by the turn of events of last year (see above). The former category is despicable. The latter category deserved to be heard. Unfortunately, all complaints have been unjustifiably categorized under the former.

Maybe it doesn’t always show up in my posts here, but while blogging at my other site, I have more than once explained how must I respect the Spurs (and hate that they’re so damnded good). Again, though, outrage over the suspensions is (be honest) more than debatable, and that should not get mixed up with teenagers who watch too much ESPN.

Yeah, and when all Phx Stan (and others) see are ad hominem attacks and the lack of a vocabulary (i.e., a four-letter word is the only adjective ever used), then the negative feedback loop can lead one to believe that all most Sp*rs fans (I will continue to use the asterisk, thank you) are thick-headed, blow-hards who sit in their mothers’ basements filled with anger and rage, so blinded that they are unable to carry on an intelligent discussion.

Except CMoney, he’s not so dumb. ;)

They ARE dirty, boring cheaters.

I think the Run and Gun is done. As long as Shaq is playing 25-30 min its over. The Suns might run sometimes but all teams do. Diaw is not fast enough to run the break and Bell is well…not good in the open court. That leaves LB and Hill. And we what Grant is over the….and I think LB might be gone. Not to mention Nash’s decline.

Nope – the run and fun left the they pulled the trigger on the Trade.

The debate now is how you tweak the roster to compliment Shaq and Amare. The answer my friends is sitting crazy in Sactown hiding from snake eggs. LB for Artest….that’s the deal we need to happen.