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First Big Test for the New Suns Franchise

Since the Phoenix Sun's first season in 1968 the franchise has been a model of success with the fourth best franchise winning percentage in the NBA.  The one constant during that entire period has been Jerry Colangelo - first as GM and then as the owner. Now the new ownership group is facing its first real test. How they perform will say a lot about our team for the next few decades.

Jerry Colangelo piloted the organization through stormy waters during his tenure including a painful drug scandal in the late 80's and a variety of other setbacks that any franchise will face. He proved to be a model sports team owner and earned the respect of league and the fan base. If Jerry were still running the show everyone interested in the Suns' success would be feeling a lot more comfortable right now.

But JC isn't coming back and the Sarver-lead group is facing its first real test since taking over in 2004.

The team they inherited was poised for a fantastic run. Amare and Marion had been drafted, Marbury and Penny were gone and the deal for Nash was done. Sarver stepped into a ready made situation with D'Antoni quickly earning his new boss' trust in the 2004-05 season.

Since then, its fair to say that "mistakes have been made" but for the most part they are the kind that any team will go through. A bad signing (Marcus Banks), questionable draft picks (in this case dumping picks) and a few trades that in retrospect don't make sense (KT to Seattle and James Jones to Portland). Even the horendous (in my opinion) Shaq trade was not a game changer beyond about a two-year period.

As painful as these things are, they are fairly commonplace in the world of sports team ownership. Let's not forget that less then a year ago Jerry Buss and Mitch Kupckak were the biggest morons in the game for not trading Bynum to keep Kobe happy. John Paxton is generally loved by the media but gave up on Tyson Chandler and LaMarcus Aldridge in favor of Ben Wallace and Tyrus Thomas. That's hasn't worked out so well.

The decisions facing Sarver and Kerr now transcend the typical player transactions. For the first time, the new Suns brain trust has the opportunity to completely remake the team in their image and in doing so they will send a powerful signal about the Suns franchise for many years to come.

Kerr on the radio this morning telegraphed his intention not to turn the Suns 180 degrees and seemed inclined to add a few things to what the Suns already do well. One would assume that means defense, player development and deeper bench rotations.

If Sarver and Kerr succeed in bringing in a new coach that can keep the high octane effeciency half court offense that the Suns displayed last year and add to that a bit more discipline and depth then in May 09 we maybe watching the Suns play instead of speculating on blowing up the team. If they decide on complete revamp we are in for some lean years that will test the patience of Phoenix fans.

Either way, the moves over the next few months are going to set the tone and define the relationship the Suns have with their fans for many years to come.

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Yeah, this has been in the back of my mind

I live in SoCal now, but I grew up in Phoenix, and my mom worked with JC, D. Van Arsdale, and several other of the Suns old guard. I don’t know them well, but the Suns have been the cream of the crop as an organization with them at the helm. This is indeed a turning point for the team.

Kerr, I like, and somewhat trust. I can’t give you any hard evidence, but despite his inexperience I’m buying the confidence he is projecting. Sarver…well…I do believe he wants to win, but I think you can say that about all the owners—they all want to win, just not all of them know how to. I think he’s been more or less his own worst enemy at every turn, from chicken-flapping at the Spurs, to the allegations of employee, err, bullying, in “his” arena, to not knowing when to write checks and when not to. Still, most of this has seemingly been about him wanting things done his way by his people, so if Kerr can find the right guy, that tiny crack in the window might still be enough to sneak through, although truth be told, I’ll be happy if we can just stay competitive.

by SoCalSun on May 12, 2008 4:39 PM MDT   0 recs

the setting suns

I’ll say the suns management has made more than a few mistakes. With only 2 players on the roster under the age of 25 and most over 30, the suns have gone from one of the youngest to one of the oldest teams in a couple short years. Plus, thanks to giving away 2 future 1st round picks, the draft prospects for the immediate future are grim indeed. The way they are going, give it a few more years and they will be in a position to vie for the lottery picks. Not sure what the thinking was giving so much to so many for so little in return but it leaves the impression that the suns have turned more into a charity foundation than one trying to build a winning team for the future.

by nashaholic on May 12, 2008 8:27 PM MDT   0 recs

Cautiously Optimistic

Sarver did what many of us long-time fans would’ve loved to have done: Bought the Phoenix Suns. I can relate. He and I are a lot alike—except he’s much richer and obviously has better business savvy. Our wardrobes, though (at least at the games), are similar. Also, we both grew up Suns’ fans. I lived in Tucson for 7 years going to school. So I’m going with this …

He’s a fan with limited basketball experience and made some bad moves—especially in hindsight. Be honest. If you had bought a ball team a few years ago, you may not have done much better.

He’s proven that he wants to win. He’s also made some mistakes. No one can legitimately say that he’s been cheap. Sure, we would’ve liked him to shell out a little more here and there, but it’s not our money. Also, he does have an obligation to his partners/investors to exercise good judgment. While he may simply be giddy to have a team, there are probably some partners who want some cash out of this deal.

Until he does something outright Bidwell-esque, I’m not going to give him too hard of a time.

That being said, it will be quite an accomplishment to keep up the legacy that Colangelo has created. The biggest counterpoint to the above arguments (and that nagging feeling in my stomach) is that JC’s input would have been invaluable. I wonder why JC seems so distant in this whole thing? I hope it is not because of Sarver, because that would evidence poor judgment and an unwillingness to continue the legacy of the Suns (if, however, JC just wanted out and does not want to be involved at all, that is something different—remember, he was lobbying for the NY GM position a while back).

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on May 12, 2008 9:35 PM MDT   0 recs

Ownership has it's priveleges

If I was Sarver, I would have given Jerry the keys until he wanted to quit, but that’s me. I wonder if Sarver thought JC would pull a Dback type of thing on him with his money.

April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?

by Hawk42 on May 13, 2008 7:27 AM MDT   0 recs

Colangelo

Hey, don’t forget, Jerry was also the coach for a while, too!

by KJ7 on May 13, 2008 7:57 AM MDT   0 recs

JC

Jerry took over twice for fired coaches, Johnny “Red” Kerr, and Bill Van Breda Kolff. He actually did pretty good. In 1969 he led them to a 24-20 record and the playoffs. I am confident that Jerry could have eventually won a title in Phoenix. But Sarver wanted to run things.

April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?

by Hawk42 on May 13, 2008 12:26 PM MDT   0 recs

Kerr

Better hope he is the real deal, the Suns could be in trouble if he screws up.

by tkired on May 13, 2008 1:40 PM MDT   0 recs

Takes a lot of luck to win

With the exception of the most recent Piston team, every single title team for the last 25+ years has not only had a hall-of famer(s) on the roster, but have been led by players who legitimately could be considered in the top 5 all-time at their respective positions—i.e., Shaq, Duncan, Jordan, Hakeem, Isiah, Magic, Bird. The luck involved there is the team’s good fortune to be in a position to acquire those special players when they are available. Other than Shaq, those other players all were drafted by the teams they won titles with.

by SoCalSun on May 13, 2008 1:43 PM MDT   0 recs

Detroit title

I still say that Piston team won only because Kobe quit on his team, which is why I would never vote for him for an MVP.

April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?

by Hawk42 on May 14, 2008 8:07 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Titles

to win an NBA title is very difficult, only a handful of teams have been champions in the past couple decades.

by tkired on May 13, 2008 5:05 PM MDT   0 recs

Other than a title....

What should our goal be as a franchise?

(Now that we have established that few can win an elusive title)

To be profitable for the owner
To be healthy for the city’s economy
To be entertaining for the fans
To bring people together in a common diversion
To give fans something to identify with and to be proud of
To give sports junkies like us who don’t have a life something to talk about

The Suns have done all of that.

April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?

by Hawk42 on May 14, 2008 8:05 AM MDT   1 recs

Good post Hawk

I’ve been thinking the exact same thing this whole time. Few teams and/or coaches have actually won titles. I mean, c’mon, there can be only one per year! The NBA just turned 50, right? The Celtics have 16 of those 50! The Bulls 9, Lakers 9 (I think). That’s 34 titles for 3 teams only! I simply want the team to be competetive. The ‘favorite’ team each year is usually only the media’s darling.

by KJ7 on May 15, 2008 11:08 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Ditto

I’ve been thinking about this too. Well done, PS. I’m very curious about the tack that Sarver is going to take. I have a feeling the coming Suns squads are going to look an awful lot like the post-Nellie Mavericks: an offensive machine getting outfitted with some defensive parts.

I don’t know what this means in terms of legacy, but Suns fans are sure to be living in interesting times for the next few seasons.

by Mike Lisboa on May 14, 2008 11:31 AM MDT   0 recs

Mavs model

In that case we have a leg up on the Dallas model, because our point guard plays, and their point guard coached (AJ). The second failing of the post Nellie Mavs is that their star (Dirk) could be defensed. We have the advantage there also, since Amare cannot. The only person that can stop Amare is Amare. He is the key. If he takes the next step as a star, we’ll be fine.

I would love to get Diop or Petro, though.

April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?

by Hawk42 on May 14, 2008 9:32 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

If the Suns...

...end up looking like the Avery Mavs (i.e., isolations galore), I may stop watching until the next era begins. Ugh.

by TexSUN on May 15, 2008 2:12 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Mavs

Are they really the model this franchise wants to follow?

by tkired on May 14, 2008 9:41 PM MDT   0 recs

What model should we follow?

I’m not saying we should follow their model, it just seems like that’s what they are doing. I think we should get back to Suns basketball: Hard nosed, wide-open play punctuated by good point guard play and good outside shooting. If you look over our history, that’s what has been most successful. I think Boris can fill the Alvan Adams role. Amare could put us over the top if he wants to do so.

April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?

by Hawk42 on May 15, 2008 8:27 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Respectability? That’s the only goal? Sorry, I can’t buy it. This franchise, like every other, must have a defining season (a championship) or slip in popularity. That the Suns have been able to go from the spring of 1976 (the Sunderella Suns) through the Barkley Era to the current Nash-Amare Era and evolve into a national team (based on winning percentage, road attendance and general interest) is incredible. It defies explanation. And yet if they drop back for a long enough period of time, they are almost certain to lose that status. That won’t help the local economy as ticket sales will falter and the team will get less exposure.
The Suns NEED a title at some point. They won’t be ’’cute’’ like Cubbies fans who haven’t won in 100 years or ’’jinxed’’ like Red Sox fans who could blame a curse. They’ll simply be known as a team that couldn’t get it done and that gets old. A tough legacy, but it’s up to this ownership to find a way to end it.
I’ll still love them and you’ll still love them, but it’s a big test on many levels.

Gar Heard was three years early.

by jerseysunsfan on May 17, 2008 12:21 AM MDT   0 recs

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