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Constructive Confrontation - It's What's On

Some great news at AZCentral, in my view.  The last thing you want as a fan when your team grossly underperforms is a group hug.  You want heads to roll and blood to be spilt.  I read plenty of that in this blog.  However, such a show panders to fans but solves nothing.  

Today, owner Robert Sarver, GM Steve Kerr and Coach Mike D'Antoni meet to decide the future of the way the Suns will be coached and whether D'Antoni is the right guy to lead them.   Everything is on the table.  As an Intel alum, I hope you don't mind if I break it down, Intel Engineering style.

Star-divide

 

Intel has a pretty hardcore culture, one that takes a bit of training to adjust to.  It's mantra, from Andy Grove is "Only the Paranoid Survive".  It's principles include  the harsh ego-bruising "Constructive Confrontation" to get to a real plan and then, once the plan is set, even if you don't like it, to "Disagree and Commit".  Even if you don't like it, make it happen with all your heart, mind and strength.

 

A Plan for Next Season: Constructive Confrontation. 

Constructive confrontation is unpleasant, but it is how problems get solved.  It's the calling out of your teammates in the work world, it is the proverbial demand to "Man (the Eff)  Up".   It is the antithesis of groupthink. 

I'm bullish about the Suns management attitude right now because

[1] They are not letting a great asset like Coach D'Antoni walk.

[2] They are prepared to have it out with each other, brawl if necessary to get to the right winning solution. No one is backing down.

Even though D'Antoni is the right coach, they are going to have it out and make some strong demands that are going to really piss Coach D'Antoni off.  Mr. "Don't Tell Me How To Coach Offense" has a point when his teams are the highest in eFG%, but he is going to get told "How To Build a Bench" and "How To Coach Defense".

Even though many parallels can be drawn between the falling Mavericks and the falling Suns, one clear difference is in the management styles of the two teams.  I'm betting 3 heads are better than 1 swelled head.

 

Executing the Plan:  "Disagree and Commit"

In the end, this isn't about coaching philosophies or pretty basketball, it's about winning.  There is no doubt in my mind that despite their differences, GM Steve Kerr and Coach Mike D'Antoni are all about winning. 

They will come together on a winning plan.  They each may not agree on all aspects of the plan, but when it's time to execute, I expect each to give their fullest to win.  It's all I can ask.

And here's my wisdom for Coach D'Antoni, who I have often nominated as Suns Coach Para Vida - from the movie, Navy Seals -

You don't have to love it, you just have to do it.

Huah!

 [Note by Phoenix Stan, 05/02/08 7:25 AM PDT ]

You are quoting sea animinals that don't have enough defense to get out of the way of a guy with a club.  Ok.

Despite that you make a few good points. I too am glad they waited to have the discussion before pulling the trigger (like Cuban did).

If I were Kerr however, I would need to be damn sure that G.W.D. is not only good with the plan but will actually carry it out. You don't want to get half way into next year (let's face if the window isn't closed already its just barely cracked open) only to find out that his plan going into the post-season is to try and out-score everyone.

I love our great offense and felt going into the series with SA that there was no way they could hold us to under 100 points. Wrong. Again. And since I can't be fired (ha!) then someone else is responsible for not having a plan B. Defense.

As Blog-a-Bull points out, its an unknown if this coach can or will adjust his style. He's only done things one way in the NBA and so far that's not got it done. He is going to have to adjust to the new reality of slow down Suns with Shaq and realize that he needs a top 10 defensive team to win.

And since Shaq isn't about to get any better on his pick and roll defense, that means instilling a defensive mindset and philosphy and devising and enforcing specific rules for assignments and rotations. Something we have never seen in his time.

Can this leopard change his spots? He's going to have to thoroughly convince Kerr of that to still be the head coach by this time next week.

 

[Note by ZonaFlash, 05/02/08 10:47 AM EDT ]

Those were, uh, some pretty shocking images PHX Stan.

You're right - It's amazing that such an offensive virtuoso could seem so dumb defensively.   You're right again that it's hard to teach an old dog new tricks - a statement that goes just as well for most of the team as well.  It's a big question about what can we possibly do defensively with the Nash-Shaq tandem. 

To be fair, we didn't lose because of failed offensive schemes.  We lost because of bizarre defensive schemes and poor regular season planning that lead to injuries to GH and Nash.  I guarantee that Nash was injured all April.  Just look at the sharp drop in his shooting percentages and attempts.

Time will tell if D'Antoni becomes the Pete Maravich of NBA coaches. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Coach D

I’m glad that Kerr is willing to meet and talk things out, unlike Cuban. I know that there are mixed feelings about coach. But after all he has done, he deserves at least the chance to explain what happened.

Carlos Morales and Alvaro Martin were saying that if there was a coach of the year award, starting since the all star break, that they would give it to Mike. I’m Not sure if I agree with that, but he did a very good job incorporating Shaq, gave us some nice wins over tough teams and improved or record against winning teams in the Western Conference.

I can predict that there will be more meetings, thay have a lot to talk about and I do think that Mike can make adjustments in the way he coaches.

It all comes down to this question: Is he willing to do what he’s been asked for?

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on May 2, 2008 9:31 AM MDT reply actions   1 recs

Mark Cuban should be smoked

Cuban is basically throwing a hissy fit. The Dallas sports shows have hinted that their relationship has deteriorated over the last few months. Remember, this is the guy who banned bloggers from his locker room because of a personal beef with one guy. It wasn’t even something he wrote. Avery is a class guy who got thrown under the bus.

All is not lost for AJ. He is looking for a job with a .719 winning percentage and one finals appearance. things could be worse.

D’A would be hitting the market as one of the most sought after coaches in years id Kerr let him go. I think Kerr knows he has a good coach. hopefully, theuy can find some common ground and get this thing rolling again.

April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?

by Hawk42 on May 2, 2008 9:46 AM MDT reply actions   1 recs

on d'antoni and things

I like this coach, he has areas he can improve, for sure, but who doesn’t. The one thing that I think hurts him is the lack of respect Amare gives him. But…..it’s beginning to look like Amare would be like this with just about every coach. Much easier to blame a coach instead of yourself for missing so many shots when it counted! I think we’d be better with someone else than Amare, there’s about 20 players I’d take above Amare. The shame of this is, talent and ability wise, Amare is in the top 3-5 players in the league. But he’s not easily coachable,
it was only in that last game where he actually tried to get rebounds (in my view). Diaw was clearly more valuable to us than Amare during the playoffs. Yes, I know, Amare had duncan and k.thomas guarding him. Not a fair comparison really…

Like some others were saying on other parts of this site, I blame the Suns management
over the last 2-3 years and their poor choices. I want an answer on this one thing…

I know Joe Johnson wanted out, I know he asked Sarver not to match the offer from Atlanta, why? I don’t think it’s all about him and his ego as some suggest. I think a lot of it has to do with his relationship and attitude towards Amare/Marion. I really do.

You can attack Nash and his defense all you want, he does a great job for what he has to work with, you can’t say the same about Amare. With what Amare has to work with, he should be one of the best defenders in the league….

I think we’re going to see a new coach….good luck Mike.

by be-the-ball on May 2, 2008 11:09 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

If no D'Antoni...

But who?

April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?

by Hawk42 on May 2, 2008 11:14 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm sure there are some available high school basketball coaches

=)

Wondering what the skip-2-my-loo to do next with my empty summer

by ZonaFlash on May 2, 2008 11:17 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rick's a good coach that got caught in a bad situation

It’s possible. I wouldn’t cry over that option.

Wondering what the skip-2-my-loo to do next with my empty summer

by ZonaFlash on May 2, 2008 11:30 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm optimistic about the meeting...

...with the exception that Sarver seems to channel Mark Cuban from time to time. D’Antoni isn’t as ancient as Don Nelson, so I think he’s still at a point where he could learn a new trick or two.

by Mike Lisboa on May 2, 2008 1:13 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm not

I hope I’m wrong but there just seems like far too much smoke to the “D’Antoni wants out” fire. I think he’s leaving, and that it will be his own decision to do so (or be spun that way at least). Maybe I’m just in a pessimistic mood today, but I think the meeting is just a formality at this point.

by TexSUN on May 2, 2008 1:40 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wish these

meetings were broadcast on CSPAN…

by Phoenix Stan on May 2, 2008 1:43 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I heart Dan Bickley

he’s on the radio here in Phx in the morning. He’s been totally consistent with what’s he’s been saying and what he wrote. He’s also a big defender of GWD in a lot of other ways and I think he personally likes him a lot.

His point about Amare is crucial (and not just b/c I said the same thing). Bickley talks about prima dona athletes testing their coaches and that’s exactly what’s happened w/ Amare. Sure – a disciplinarian will wear out his welcome too after a few years but right now – Amare is the future and Amare needs….dare I say it…a firm father figure

by Phoenix Stan on May 2, 2008 4:29 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Amare destroyed team harmony when he came back..

As I said before, the Amare-free 05-06 Suns w. Nash & Marion, as 1 & 1a, was such a joy to follow, because all those guys just clicked. You would think that Amare would have learned a little humility after these guys showed they could do it without him, and they probably would have won 60 games if KT hadn’t gone down.

I would have made the KG for Amare trade in a heartbeat, pushed for it, in fact, provided I could also have kept KT. That would have given a heart transfusion to a team that already had a boatload of it, and KG would never have done anything but build up Shawn Marion (could you imagine Amare saying something like “This is Steve and Shawn’s team. I’m just here to help.”?).

But management decided to make this Amare’s team, and reinforced that with the Shaq acquisition. Fools gold if you ask me.

"True glory consists of doing what deserves to be written, and writing what deserves to be read".

by Pliny the Elder on May 2, 2008 4:40 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

w-o-w

Pretty damning if true. If you can’t control your best player – you’re done.

I don’t believe it tho.

I don’t think Amare’s comments were that bad. They were born out of frustration.

Wondering what the skip-2-my-loo to do next with my empty summer

by ZonaFlash on May 2, 2008 4:58 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Amare's Comments?

The audio ones everybody’s been talking about, right? Something like, “Coach runs good practices” and using the past tense.

Listen to the audio again. Listen for two things:

Amare is not the most eloquent guy, but what he was trying to say (I think) was that its on the players. Whatever happens, the players are going to forge ahead.

We therefore know that (1) Amare likes to take on the responsibility, and (2) he’s not going to win at a Toastmaters’ conference any time soon.

I think what he was trying to say was, “We’re going to move forward, move up, move on, and we’ll do that with or without the coach.” He could have given a more ringing endorsement; I wonder (this is speculation) whether he was trying to be a leader for his team in the event that Coach D goes. It probably failed, but that may have been his intent.

I think Coach also had issues with Marion. I remember more than once where he yelled at Marion for something on the court (can’t remember the play, but it was a bone-headed move) and Marion, literally, blew him off. Walked away and didn’t pay attention. Marion also said more than once that he was unfairly singled-out by the coach. That doesn’t sound like someone who had a great working relationship with the Coach. At least not one that’s better than STAT’s.

Last time STAT skipped practice without explanation, his brother had been arrested. When he skipped last season’s exit interviews, he was bailing his mom out of jail. (Or was that vice versa)

STAT has sulked from time to time, but he usually seems to get out of his funk.

These are the kinds of things that a coach should work on—like improving defense or whatever aspect of the game.

Again, if he’s unwilling to change, he should go. If he’s willing to work on things, though, add skills to his repetoire and get off the mat to go back at it, then I think he’s an upper-echelon coach.

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on May 2, 2008 5:15 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lunch at Cooper'stown?

If that’s the last lunch, what a way to get canned? An $8M decision over a foot-long?

There are a few better restaurants downtown (no jokes about the fancy chicken and waffle house across from the Convention Center).

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on May 2, 2008 5:16 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope so

I really don’t want a new coach – I just want D’A to improve. what do you think the chances are that D”A stays but must hire a defensive coach? Maybe Iavaroni will do that.

April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?

by Hawk42 on May 2, 2008 1:15 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I think a shave

should be part of the agreement as well

by Phoenix Stan on May 2, 2008 1:17 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Iavaroni was a joke on defense

See what Memphis Says

Besides, we already had him and we weren’t all that defensively attuned. He better than nothing, but let’s try someone else please.

Wondering what the skip-2-my-loo to do next with my empty summer

by ZonaFlash on May 2, 2008 1:50 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also, there is video footage of Sarver, Kerr and D’Antoni (was that there earlier) coming and going from the restaurant.

by TwinnerA on May 2, 2008 5:24 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow...

Exhibit A on why I could never be a reporter. I just don’t have it in me to pester people who so clearly don’t want to be pestered.

by TexSUN on May 2, 2008 5:28 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

The question is not will the Suns fire D'Antoni, but can they convince him to stay?

The general consensus out there in the intrawebz seems to be that the pressure behind the split is that D’Antoni wants to leave more than the Suns want him out, the Suns would be idiots to let him get away, and there are teams lined up that are hoping that happens.

If they’re going to completely blow up the team, then they’ll need a new coach too. Otherwise, I really think they’re better served to give it another run. That series was lost in the little details that come from familiarity and experience—the same coach running the same plays for the same players for many years running.

by SoCalSun on May 2, 2008 5:37 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Clever Ploy

Really, it is, isn’t it?

“We really wanted Mike to stay, we just asked that he contribute a little more time to defense at practices. He didn’t want to meet our simple requests, so he decided to part ways.”

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on May 2, 2008 5:42 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

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