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5 Things I Think I Know About Robert Sarver

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I've never really had a good feel for Robert Sarver.  I had always fancied him as a Mark Cuban knock-off (without the 10 figure net worth).  After hearing his take on his tenure with the Suns, I feel like I know him a little better.  Here are 5 things I took away from this interview...

 

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  1. He really wants to win a title.  I don't think he moved into the House that Jerry Built just because it had nice carpet. 
  2. He did not force D'Antoni out.  I think that's more Steve Kerr's thing.  Sarver seems pretty content to let the basketball people make the basketball decisions.  He backed his coach up to the point that the coach conflicted with the GM.  Fair enough.
  3. Selling the draft picks may have been just as much D'Antoni's idea as it was his.  He justifies the sale of the picks by saying he'd rather use that money on veterans to fill out the bench, not unlike a certain short rotation playing, rookie averse coach who just moved to the Big Apple, no?  I'm sure the financial benefits were attractive to him, too, but I believe that GM D'Antoni had a larger role in those decisions than we've been giving him credit for. (GM D'Antoni's impact on the Suns may be much larger and worse than we've given him credit for.)
  4. He's not cheap.  He (vaguely) admits that he may have misspent some of his money, but really, given the size of the Suns payroll, including the 4 Mil a year that Coach D was getting, it's impossible to call him cheap.  Let's stop doing it.
  5. The future is Amare, Leandro, and Boris.  I'm OK with this as long as it's true.  That's a pretty good core to build around.  The biggest problem is that there's not a floor leader among them.  The second biggest problem is that that building process can't start in earnest while the Suns still have Nash, Shaq, and to a lesser extent, Grant Hill around.  There's too much money tied up in old players.  I think a lot of his legacy is going to revolve around Steve Kerr and his decision-making in the next two years.

I think as Suns fans, our biggest problem is we don't know what we have at any level in this organization right now.  The GM is, by his own admission, a moron right now. (With emphasis on the "right now" part.  There are still 2 years left for Shaq to make him look like a gen... you know what?  Just don't think about it.)  The coach is non-existent.  And the team hasn't even played half a season together.

However, based on the admittedly scant evidence in this article, I think we've got a pretty good guy in the owner's box 3rd row seat.  Nobody ever got good at what they do by consistently cruising to victory day after day.  He's had his ass handed to him both on and off the court in the last few months.   Feeling pretty good about him right now, I'm curious to see how he handles the pressure of the coming year.

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I kind of agree that Kerr is the man on the hot seat, but let’s remember that Sarver ran BC out, and moved MikeD to GM. So what GM Mike did is on Sarver as well. I felt that Griffin or Mark West should have followed BC. Was that Sarver trying to save the extra salary? Also, what part did Sarver have in losing JJ? Was that done by BC?

April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?

by Hawk42 on May 20, 2008 11:55 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

In defense of the JJ debacle

I don’t think the Suns initial offer was that insulting of a lowball. JJ had a career year and with a roster as loaded as the Suns were, max money didn’t make sense. Once the Hawks offered max money, and JJ got it in his head that he could resurrect a franchise all by his lonesome, it was out of their hands. Remember, they matched Atlanta’s offer and JJ refused.

by Mike Lisboa on May 20, 2008 3:18 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sorry

but that’s not a good core.
I don’t think LB and Boris could ever be starters for a championship team.
The suns down fall begun with Colangelo, the Shaq trade is not among the worst 5 moves the suns made in the last 4/5 years.

by Falcao on May 20, 2008 12:35 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, Sarver had a tough transition, but I think he's been fine.

Not sure how much of this is just white-washing tho. Hard to know what’s true or not.

Great post.

Wondering what the skip-2-my-loo to do next with my empty summer

by ZonaFlash on May 20, 2008 1:52 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

My problem, too.

Hence the title. We’ll find out more once a coach is hired. A little more after the draft. And whole boatload if and when the trades start happening (and they will).

by Mike Lisboa on May 20, 2008 3:15 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

That core isn't going to do it

Not in the west anyways. You can’t have a leader who only cares about one side of the court. (assuming amare becomes your leader very soon).

Shaq:"The kobster, he's an assassin" Answer for who should be mvp.

by ldeep on May 20, 2008 3:11 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Core issues

I think you could do a lot worse than that threesome. It’s definitely fair to say that those three will not get it done on their own, but as far as something to start with, it’s not bad.

by Mike Lisboa on May 20, 2008 3:13 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Still think

that if the window is still open w/ Nash and Shaq then you have to move LB to make cap / lux tax space for a more needed player…I would MUCH rather keep Diaw then LB. Diaw at least can play both ends and has great potential then LB. I think we have seen the best LB has to offer by this point. A great scorer who will never be consistent enough to lead in the playoffs like a Manu or D Will.

He’s a solid bench player but we have other immediate needs if you want to make another run w/ Nash and Shaq.

OTOH, if you think the window is closed then Nash has to go now while his value is still high

by Phoenix Stan on May 20, 2008 3:19 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Barbosa Should Go

Stan’s right. He is.

Also, the Suns need to sell LB when he’s high. The guy’s not going to become more valuable.

I hate to say it, but Diaw still has enough potential to want to keep him around. There’s nothing that can be done about his bloated contract - he’s definitely overpaid - but he’s not going anywhere and probably shouldn’t.

Package Barbosa and #15 for a backup PG to take over for Nash in three years or a back-up center. Stoudemire’s not going anywhere and shouldn’t, but he’ll need someone to collect fouls on the other side’s big man.

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on May 20, 2008 11:43 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, No, No

I agree that we should trade LB, but that #15 has to yield a starter. Why not trade LB straight up for Kyle Lowry or Sergio Rodriguez? I think LB and the #15 for a backup is an awful deal. What are fans going to say when McGee or Green, or Arthur were available, and we chucked it away for a backup point guard?

I also agree that Boris should be kept. We need to give him a chance in another system.

April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?

by Hawk42 on May 22, 2008 9:20 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

#15 a starter?

Looking back at draft history the chances of a #15 pick being a starter are pretty darn low. Here’s the last 8 #15 picks:

2007 Rodney Stuckey. Ok, this guy is a legit starter but he still didn’t start for the Pistons (but he will)
2006 Cedric Simmons
2005 Antoine Wright
2004 Al Jefferson (uh….I guess you can consider him a starter :)
2003 Reece Gaines
2002 Bostjan Nachbar
2001 Steven Hunter
2000 Jason Collier

1 very very good player in Al Jeff and 1 solid NBA player in Stuckey. A couple of decent rotation guys in Nachbar and Hunter and then not much else.

Pretty hit and miss at this point in the draft. Obviously there are starters picked later like Josh Howard so it comes down to scouting and the Suns have a decent record in the draft. But, its still very much a crap shoot at #15.

That said, I agree that trading LB AND the #15 had better bring back either a proven NBA starter like Artest or a top 5 pick and a future 1st round pick.

by Phoenix Stan on May 22, 2008 9:55 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

correction

In order for you to make a valid argument about #15 having low odds of being a starter, you have to consider not only past #15s, but all past picks #15 and later that became a starter. Like for instance Nash, Finley, Ginobli, Fisher. Josh Howard, Arenas, Brad Miller, Monta Ellis, Michael Redd, and more.

April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?

by Hawk42 on May 23, 2008 12:53 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh yeah

I think LB > Kyle Lowry or Sergio Rodriquez so you should at least look to get some picks back in that deal.

by Phoenix Stan on May 22, 2008 9:57 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

LB

I would be happy to get Sergio and Portland’s 2nd round pick for LB. I think the second round will yield some good players.

April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?

by Hawk42 on May 23, 2008 12:55 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great Post

Nice writing Mike, you’ve caused me to think twice before I call Sarver a stingy bastard again.

by dang on May 21, 2008 7:15 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

ok ok...

I guess he has done a decent job… but he has made mistakes (who doesn’t). It’s true that Shaq has time to make Kerr look like a genious but he is not getting any younger so we are kind against the odds on that one. You are making me feel guilty….
Good post man.

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on May 21, 2008 3:34 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

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