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FIBA vs. NBA. You decide

There has been a lot of progress in the last decade on reducing the differences between FIBA rules and those in the NBA. I really don’t see a problem if they have different guidelines, both systems have good things and bad things from my point of view. I’ll put the cards on the table and you will decide which rules you want to adopt, eliminate, borrow, incinerate so the NBA can be a better place for all of us fans.

Major differences:

 

Three Point Line

Measured from the centre of the basket:

FIBA: 6.25 m (20' 6.25") arc.

NBA: 7.24 m (23' 9") arc

 

Feedback: This was a love-hate deal for me. I used to love taking three point shots, to be honest with you; it was really easy to make them, I felt that the line was really close to the basket…maybe too close. At the same time, I got pissed every time the Center of the other team made a 3 pointer, or a guy coming off the bench cold, anyone with a decent touch was able make that shot. Everyone shot 3’s at will. Ridiculous!

 

Verdict: NBA, I’m glad that the arc is farther away from the basket, it’s a “big boy” shot. Not all players have a high percentage shooting behind the arc. Let’s keep it that way.

 

 

Basket interference

 

Note: In both systems, you can’t touch the basketball once is on its way down to the basket. The difference is in what you can/can’t do after it hits the rim.

FIBA: You can tip the ball in, regardless if it’s over the imaginary cylinder. Basket will count.

NBA: You can’t.

 

Feedback: I really find this rule kind of stupid. Why penalize the player who is just making sure that the ball goes in?

 

Verdict: FIBA and NBA. I’m kind of torn on this one, some people like it, some people don’t, I think that they should just standardized it because it's an instinctual play and it’s unfair to players who aren't used to the rule in both systems. NBA players will be hesitant to touch the ball over the imaginary cylinder in FIBA contests and FIBA players will be used to doing that, causing turnovers for their teams in the NBA.

 

Illegal Defense

 

FIBA: Allowed

NBA: It will be called if a player is in the restricted area longer than 3 seconds without actively guarding an opponent.

Feedback: The lack of this rule in FIBA obligates players to become outside shooters, given the fact that the center of the opposing team will always be guarding the basket; it’s difficult to drive to the hole. This will explain why big men such as Dirk Nowitzki, Mehmet Okur, Zydrunas Ilgauskas, among others, have great shooting skills and not much of a great low post game.

 

Verdict: NBA and FIBA. It depends if you enjoy watching big men dominating the paint or shooting from the perimeter. One of my closest friends never developed an outside shot, because he was told by his coach that he needed to take advantage of his size in the paint. Big men belong in there, that’s what he used to say. As a result, his game became one-dimensional and struggled to score. Every time he got up the court, there was the other team’s big guy waiting for him in the paint, not moving one bit.

 

 

Restricted Area

 

FIBA: A trapezoid 3.6m (12’) wide at the free throw line and 6m wide at the baseline.

NBA: 4.88m (16’) Wide rectangle.

 

Feedback: The trapezoid is great, I just like how it spaces the floor, and forces big men to be more skillful than powerful.

 

Verdict: FIBA, I have come to know that FIBA will no longer use the trapezoid and that it will incorporate the NBA rectangle in 2010. What a shame.

 

Time-outs

 

FIBA: should be called only by the coach in the score’s table, timeout will be granted after the next field goal scored against the team that requested the timeout. No timeouts once a set of free throws has started. Players can’t call timeouts on the floor.  

NBA: Called anytime from the floor, by a player or team who is in control of the ball. Timeouts between free throws are allowed.  

 

Feedback: I think that that ability to call a timeout on the floor bails you out of tight situations, but it can also be a double edge sword. The refs are the ones who decide if you have possession of the ball, and that’s a big “if”. Back in 2006, before the amazing come back against the Lakers, we were upset about a particular play. Nash dribbled the ball and got trapped between Luke Walton and Lamar Odom, Boris Diaw was screaming timeout and Bennet Salvatore never called it. As a result, they called a jump ball between a larger Walton and a Tiny Nash. Salvatore said at first that he didn’t hear Boris calling a timeout and then changed his story saying that Nash did not have possession of the ball since it had been knocked out of his hands several times.

I also don’t like the fact that teams can call a timeout during free throws. This breaks the player’s rhythm and concentration.

 

Verdict: FIBA. You know, I’m kind of tired that refs have the ability to screw up games with their bad calls; I can’t tell you how many times I’ve screamed at the TV “let them play”. By not allowing a player call a timeout on the floor, you are rewarding the defense efforts, making coaches and players think twice what they are going to do on the offensive end. Creating smarter players, better ball handlers. Better decision making.

 

 

Semi-circle

 

FIBA: Does not exist

NBA: The semi circle that is located right under the hoop is the "No Charging Zone". Meaning that a defensive player will be called for a defensive foul if he plants even 1 foot in that zone while taking a charge. Getting an offensive player to commit an offensive foul via a charge, the defensive player should establish his position outside that zone before the actual contact.

 

Feedback: I really like the NBA semi-circle rule, in FIBA, there is always a guy underneath the basket defending it, if I drove to the basket and the guy is just standing there (no 3sec violation) most of the times I would get called for the offensive foul.

 

Verdict: NBA. Again, the lack of the semi-circle makes international players doubt when driving aggressively to the basket. Making them work on other aspects of the game, such as passing, setting screens. But at the same time, contributing to the reputation that they are soft players, not used to physical play.

 

 

FIBA refs vs. NBA refs

 

I think refs work with whatever tools they are given, FIBA tries to make it easy for their officials, trying really hard that their refs don’t become a decisive factor in a game. Reducing the amount of “subjective” calls help, but what really helps them stand out is their discipline. They will be consistent during the whole game. Offensive 3 second violations will be called not only in the first quarters; refs will not tolerate players or coaches insults, no matter who you are.

NBA refs have a lot in their hands, I understand that, but the lack of consistency it’s what angers people the most. Stardom treatment to elite teams and players, betting scandals, conspiracy theories. The NBA really needs to start cleaning up their mess.

 

I can certainly name a lot more differences; the ones mentioned are the ones that I find more relevant. These differences make the players think, react and train differently from others. Making each player unique, making basketball more fun to play and watch.

 

So after all, it’s always nice to have something to compare yourself against to, capitalism vs. socialism, democrats vs. republicans, ying vs. yang. It makes us want to improve ourselves, it makes us better.

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Cool post

but why serif?

Decision '08: Batum or Alexander

by rosewood on May 5, 2008 6:35 AM MDT   0 recs

I have no idea

Wrote it in word.. and came up like that.

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on May 5, 2008 7:02 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Fonts

for whatever reason – things copied over from word copy the font as well. I use an Arial 9pt when drafting in Word instead of the default Times New Roman…

Oh, and forget about changing it now without re-doing the entire thing unless you can go into the HTML and change the font/style code which I certainly can’t do…

by Phoenix Stan on May 5, 2008 8:16 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

No problem..

I’ll take it into consideration next time…

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on May 5, 2008 8:29 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Very not worth it

I took a look since I do know how to fix it, and ugh… It looks like all of the special Word HTML formatting gets transferred over. I could fix it, but it would take more time than I’m willing to spend on it. Very not worth it.

However, to avoid in the future, either set the font in Word as Phoenix Stan suggested, or another idea might be to copy/paste into Notepad first, then copy/paste into this editor. (Maybe just me, but I’m really not liking the new editor so far… )

by TexSUN on May 5, 2008 8:31 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

also...

you can try to use “Paste Special…” from the “Edit” menu and then select “unformatted text” from within the dialog box. I think that works in Internet Explorer, I know it does inside of MSOffice products.

by KJ7 on May 5, 2008 8:42 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

The problem

with both of those options “paste special and note pad” is that you do lose all formating that you might want such as bolding, etc…

I have taken to just drafting online (it auto saves the risk of losing work is eliminated) and then I copy into word and spell check.

Even with the “right” font in Word when you copy over it messes up some other strange things like breaks and spacing…

by Phoenix Stan on May 5, 2008 8:44 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Good point

With the old editor this wasn’t really an issue because the formatting syntax was different to begin with.

by TexSUN on May 5, 2008 8:48 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

LOL

Not exactly the type of discussion that I was looking for with this Post… =(

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on May 5, 2008 8:48 AM MDT   0 recs

Sorry

Actually, I meant to post a comment about the actual contents of your post and got sidetracked when I saw the remarks about formatting.

Nice stuff! I’m nominating you to be our official FIBA blogger this summer. :)

by TexSUN on May 5, 2008 8:57 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

a few things

1) I’ve always thought the lack of FIBA having a restricted area was not good. As you said, it limits the driving to the hoop because the big man just sort of camps out there the whole time. I’ve never liked that. This is also sort of tied in with the illegal defense rule.

2) The three point line. I’m in total agreement with you PS. I like my shooters to have a reason to exist. If you remember in the mid-90’s, the NBA toyed with a shortened 3-pt line for a season. Heh, KJ was hurling up 3’s as if he was Majerle! It was just silly. Though… that would totally be Grant Hill’s range if they did it again.. hmmm…

3) the Basket Interference thing… I think I like the NBA version better, but I do think it handicaps our USA National team come time for the tournaments/olympics.

4) The Key. I always liked the idea of the trapazoidal key. It always made me feel like the shooting team had a better chance at getting the offensive rebound. Not sure if there are any statistics to back that up one way or the other though.

by KJ7 on May 5, 2008 9:19 AM MDT   0 recs

About The Key

I really don’t know. I’d have to look into it and let you know. What I can tell you for sure is that it spreads the floor, It benfits the PG, you have the feeling that the court is bigger.

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on May 5, 2008 11:25 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Flops

What about handing out technicals for flops?

More discussion needed on this point, I think.

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on May 5, 2008 9:21 PM MDT   0 recs

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