Suns Outlook: A mid-Summer's Night Haze
This next incarnation of the Phoenix Suns promises to be a noticeable departure from the last few seasons.
Gone are the undersized speed demons and their spiritual leader preaching the mantra of "the best defense is a great offense". Gone too are the lofty expectations of the media and fans which lead our collective eyes to focus (perhaps too much) on the prize.
The new look Suns are bigger, tougher, slower and of course quite a bit older. Its hard to say how they will fare and equally difficult to say if the window has slammed shut or perhaps is still cracked open just a bit.

One the bright side, Amare playing a full season in his natural power forward position with a full summer off to rest and prepare could easily come back and be a legit MVP contender. He knows that his defense needs to improve and he knows that he can defend any 4 in the league (Duncan plays center and don't try and tell me otherwise).
He will be challenged and motivated and he has shown the discipline and will to improve. With a renewed (really just a new) focus on team defense and an offense that should run more through him, Amare will finally be The Man.
Nash, Hill and that Big Mouth in the middle will hopefully be called on to do much less. With a longer bench those Grey Beards can use the regular season as an extended warm up for the playoffs. None of those guys should average more then 25 mpg until March.
Backing them up will be a wide assortment of fellas chomping at the bit to prove themselves. Alando Tucker at the 2/3. DJ Strawberry at the 1/2. Barbosa (if he's still around) can be serviceable running the point in a more structured offense. They will all be fighting for minutes behind Bell who should also be playing less then he has under D'Antoni.
Hopefully, our newly drafted left-handed, second only to Rose, defensive slashing Solvenian sensation can get some solid minutes in a back-up role this year as well. In fact, the Suns success at buying him out of his Tau Ceramica contract could be the deciding factor on Barbosa's future in purple and orange. With this second round rookie on the roster being called the point guard of the future, the Suns are going to want to play him and that makes Barbosa and his much larger salary expendable.
In the front court the Suns will obviously look to rookie Big Hair Lopez to get significant minutes behind Shaq's big behind. Beyond that, the Suns are still rather shallow up front. They could re-sign Brian Skinner and/or Sean Marks or go out and find similar type players. I personally, think Marks never got the chance to be an off the bench front court energy player like a Roni Turiaff or Bandon Bass. He's as talented as either of those guys so I would like to see him back. Skinner is a great shot blocker for his size and plays hard but he's not as tough as his goatee makes him out to be and he can't shoot the ball. Between the two, I would take Marks and replace Skinner with Lopez.
That just leaves the wing with Giricek potentially coming back and sharing time with Hill and possibly Diaw. I am a big Gordan fan and hope the Suns can find a way to get him signed. Perhaps with money saved by moving Barbosa.
Diaw remains the enigma. Perhaps more then any player, I am curious to see how his role and performance change under a new coach. We all know about his potential to play the point forward at the 3, 4 or 5 and he's a very solid defensive player both in the post against bigger guys and on the wings as well. Name for me any other player you saw defend both Shaq (before the trade) and also Tony Parker and every Rudy Gay in between.
Used well, Diaw can easily be worth his weight in croissants...Or he could just end up as soft and flaky as one.
Where does that leave next year's Suns? They are an underdog team in flux and can exceed expectations which will likely place them at a 4 to 6 seed. Or they could just as easily drop further behind the plethora of great Western Conference teams.
Right now, I am fairly up beat. I compare the Suns to the Cav's with a lesser version of The Man but a much better supporting cast.
Regardless of potential, I fully expect the team to start slow. They will be incorporating a lot of new, young players into a totally new system. They may very well hover around the 500 mark for the first few months or even worse.
But this Suns team still has a lot of talent. They still have a couple of former MVP's and a potential future one. By February they should be hitting a stride and roll into the playoffs at least good enough to compete in the first few rounds. For me, that will be good enough for the start of a new Suns era.
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Diaw will suck unless he starts at the 3.
Hill off the bench could work well.
But for Diaw, it’s either up or out. Start him or trade him to Europe (no one wants him here in the states, apparently).
Wondering what the skip-2-my-loo to do next with my empty summer
by ZonaFlash on Jun 28, 2008 2:56 PM MDT 0 recs
I honestly am optimistic
I really don’t think the Suns are going to be in any danger of not making the playoffs next year. I’ll admit, Terry Porter scares me. Im afraid of how stagnant the offense could get under him.
But, I really believe that this isn’t necessarily “an official end to Suns style”. I believe as long as the team has Nash, the concept behind Run and Gun Suns still remains. Sure, there’s no Matrix, now an old Shaq, no JJ, or Q, but in reality, the Quarterback of the “7 Secxonds or Less” has ALWAYS been Steve Nash.
So don’t expect the Suns to average 90ppg next year, I believe it’ll still be above 100.
And, if the Suns can nail a good free-agent wing player who can shoot (what about James Jones again..plays good D, hustles, good shooter!), I think the Suns will contend
by willthehawk on Jun 28, 2008 3:20 PM MDT 0 recs
The Suns will contend
Steve Nash will surprise us all (as he usually does) starting the season in great shape and running the show like always. I hope we get the new kid to play this season. I’m still worried about how we play when Steve sits.
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
by PanamaSun on Jun 28, 2008 3:53 PM MDT 0 recs
The Suns could be a sleeper..
Terry Porter was a good, if underrated, point guard from the “Golden Age” of the 80s. He will certainly understand how to use Steve Nash effectively.
Most people have written off the Suns, but I personally think the Spurs series was much closer than the score-line suggested, and that a major part (but not all) of the reason for our loss had to do with a lack of cohesion when we added Shaq. A pre-season together would certainly fix that, and I strongly believe that Shaq will be more mobile this year than last.
The other reason, imho, was injuries to Grant and Steve. If we can sign Giricek and Dragic can play this year, the bench starts to look solid. I’m concerned with Steve’s lingering shoulder injury of last year, as it reduced his effectiveness over the second half.
I also think Porter is smart enough not to try and turn the backup pg into mini-Steve, and instead come up with a different game plan in that case. Depending who is on the floor, you could even try “turning on the afterburners” with Leandro and some of the other players.
And finally, we might actually get a 10 or 11 man rotation. That should also help, in the long run.
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by Pliny the Elder on
Jun 28, 2008 4:25 PM MDT
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Speaking of The Man...
...it’s time for him to make The Leap. More on that when the season starts, though. For now all we can do is watch, wait and hope.
With the draft over and done with, do you think this means we’re keeping Barbosa and Diaw? I haven’t mucked about with the Trade Machine too much, but I have a hunch neither will be moved unless it’s part of a multi-team deal. The Suns don’t have too many other pieces they’re willing to part with, save the trade exception. And a straight up deal is unlikely to net fair value for the Suns in the case of Barbosa or the other party in the case of Diaw.
by Mike Lisboa on Jun 28, 2008 9:42 PM MDT 0 recs
Moving Barbosa
It occurred to me while I was writing this that Barbosa’s fate is tied to the contract of Dragic.
If you’ve got a guy that you think is an immediate back up PG and future starting PG as they said then how do you go through all those hoops to draft him and then pay whatever $ to buy him out of his contract only to play him behind LB?
I think if Dragic can play as a Sun this year then LB will be gone.
I am working my “sources” to find out when we will know about Dragic’s contract situation and status for this season.
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by Phoenix Stan on
Jun 29, 2008 11:39 AM MDT
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Move him to the 2 and Giricek to the 3?
Is it possible to bring him off the bench as a 2 guard and move Giricek to the 3? Think of this 10-man rotation: Nash, Dragic, Bell, Barbosa, Hill, Giricek, Stoudemire, Diaw, O’Neal, Lopez.
If Dragic is NBA-ready (or can work his way into the rotation playing perhaps behind either Barbosa or Strawberry), that’s not too shabby. I’m not sure how to fill in the other two spots. Probably some combination of Strawberry, Tucker, Skinner or Marks. Depending on what the Suns brain trust thinks, I’m sure Tucker, Strawberry and Dragic will split time in the D-League (or Dragic stays in Europe) unless one of them shows some serious stuff in camp/pre-season.
If Tucker can crack the rotation, I think Giricek would be the odd man out. Keep in mind I’m not tracking salary on any of this, which obviously plays a role. I think Barbosa only gets moved if it nets us either a player of his caliber (unlikely) or a serviceable back-up and a 1st round pick that we sold in the last couple of seasons. He’s too young, cheap and good to trade otherwise.
The biggest problem with speculating on the Suns rotation is that none of us really knows what last year’s draft picks are capable of.
by Mike Lisboa on
Jun 29, 2008 12:59 PM MDT
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Tucker and Strawberry
aren’t eligible to get sent back and forth to the minor’s this season….I am fairly sure of that.
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by Phoenix Stan on
Jun 29, 2008 1:52 PM MDT
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From the D-League site:
NBA teams can assign players who are rookies or in their second season to their D-League affiliate.
So, they are still eligible as are Lopez or Dragic. Lopez will play right away though, so I doubt we’ll see him there unless it’s to rehab an injury. Which he won’t get. Because of the Suns’ training staff. Right?
by Mike Lisboa on
Jun 29, 2008 2:00 PM MDT
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All of the LB trade talk is really bizarre to me.
Why not teach him and his long arms a little defense before trying to trade him?
He’s cheap, has shown offensive potential. He has received no defensive training at all.
Give it a shot first, he might deliver defensively.
Wondering what the skip-2-my-loo to do next with my empty summer
by ZonaFlash on Jun 29, 2008 4:25 PM MDT 0 recs
one year of showing some defense might enhance his trade value next year too.
Wondering what the skip-2-my-loo to do next with my empty summer
by ZonaFlash on
Jun 29, 2008 4:25 PM MDT
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Sean Marks
At last someone seeing the advantages of Sean Marks. The guy has never had a chance to show what he can do in the NBA, off the bench, and hopefully he will now be able to do so. I have watched his progress from high school ball in New Zealand, through to US College, to World championships and Olympic Games, and the guy is good, better than Skinner, and can play tough, smart, and can score. To do this he needs minutes not seconds. He is in the mould of Luc Longley, not flashy but steady, and thats what the Suns need.Longley made Jordans and Pippens jobs easier and helped Rodman on the boards.
by Benchpower on Jul 1, 2008 9:09 AM MDT 0 recs















