Open Gameday Thread - Suns vs Hawks
by Seth Pollack on Jan 13, 2009 5:28 PM MST
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PrintAtlanta Hawks at Phoenix Suns, Jan 13, 2009 7:00 PM MST
 Hotlanta Hawks |
 Your Phoenix Suns |
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7:00 PM Mountain / 9:00 PM Eastern |
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| TV: My45 | ||
| Probable starters: | ||
| Mike BiBBy |
PG | Steve Nash |
| Joe Johnson |
SG | Jason RichardSon |
| Marvin Williams |
SF | Grant Hill |
| Josh Smith |
PF | A'm'a'r'e Stoudemire |
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Zaza |
C | Shaq |
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[Note by ZonaFlash, 01/13/09 7:29 PM EST ]
I love the Hawks.
I hate what they did to us. I hate their twisted management. But I love their matchups against the Boston Celtics. David and Goliath. I'm rooting for David. The East is relevant. The East is exciting. And the Hawks are apart of that.
The Vegas oddsmakers and ESPN's accuview (78% chance of win) lay us as heavy favorites especially with Al Horford being out. The once defensive Hawks have let down in the past three games.
Finally an answer for Joe Johnson.
Although Jason Richardson isn't necessarily the same player Joe Johnson is, I feel like he brings a quality that we missed when we lost JJ. Jason has the size, power and ability to create that we lost years ago. He also costs about the same, but is shooting a better percentage from 3 than JJ.
Joe Johnson, Steve Nash, Terry Porter
Nash says we miss JJ as the backup point guard and that JR doesn't make up for that. No offense, LB.
What is up with defense by charges?
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Dear Steve Kerr
Dear Steve Kerr,
Please let the Nash trade rumors be false. Yes, I know that you are determined to put your stamp on this franchise, but you don’t have to get rid of everyone to do so. Yes, Nash’s numbers are down this year, but the team doesn’t run without him.
Are you going to change our colors yet, or our uniforms? Maybe we should change the team name to the Stephen Douglas Kerrs.
Oh, but you can let them have Lopez and Barbosa.
Thanks.
Hopefully we can pull another win together and try and move up the ranks a little bit.
Steve Nash trade talk is stupid.
Totally true. Maybe we don’t win it all this year but we have a chance, a very good chance at that. And unless we trade Nash for Lebron or Kobe, there’s no way we win. We’ll just be setting ourselves back, trying once again to get all the pieces to play together like a team. In Shaq we must trust, and in Nash we must trust, and in Amare we must trust not to screw up.
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
I said
at the beginning of the season when there was talk about trading Nash that it only made sense if the Suns weren’t in it at all this season.
We are in it. And we are improving. Trading any of our starters at this point is a big step back.
Even trading LB is becoming less and less attractive but that’s the only guy that might could go but ONLY for a very good deal
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by Seth Pollack on Jan 13, 2009 6:20 PM MST up reply actions
Absolutely
I don’t want to trade him b/c I don’t like him. I do.
But we need a true backup PG and/or a vet back up center. I think Tuck can move into back up SG spot plus Hill and play the 2 so LB is the only movable trade bait we have to fill our other holes.
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by Seth Pollack on Jan 13, 2009 6:27 PM MST up reply actions
I have reason to hate the Hawks
Nobody ever mentions how we could have had Al Horford instead of the Hawks if the pick in "06 fell one more spot. I really feel we got jobbed in the Joe Johnson trade. I mean we basically traded Joe Johnson for Robin Lopez!!! I am an optimist and all but, I do see why so many people think Lopez will be servicable. I say if this is the last hurrah…go down swinging….trade Lopez and Dragic for something good like a bag of skittles.
and JRich
We got JRich b/c we had Boris and Bell who we got b/c we lost JJ….
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by Seth Pollack on Jan 13, 2009 6:15 PM MST up reply actions
I really like Jrich,
He was going off during the clips game. I want to see more time for “scrappy lou” tonight and hopefully Barnes finds his missing shot too.
JRich and Fropez for JJ is a way better trade than Diaw and a first round pick we can use, but not for ten years, and only then if the Hawks have a winning season. It feels that way.
Stan, can you give Kerr a point or two for reversing some of D’antoni’s brainlessness charity?
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
He's already
got Genius points for JRich
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by Seth Pollack on Jan 13, 2009 7:47 PM MST up reply actions
Good Points
but look at this lineup
C-Al Horford
PF- Amare
SF-Marion (no need for Shaq with horford in tow)
SG-Barnes/ Hill/ Barbs (JRich is nice though)
PG-Nash
Sorry Guys
Joe Johnson to me is like that perfect girlfriend that got away. You always thinking what could have been….
Does he
deserve to be boo’d by the home crowd tonight?
I don’t think so. It’s been long enough.
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by Seth Pollack on Jan 13, 2009 6:30 PM MST up reply actions
Nooo
I still don’t fully understand his reasons for wanting to go and to all places ATLANTA but, I wasn’t in the locker room with those guys, but on the court the Suns had the makings of a great team if not a dynasty. I think he shouldn’t be boo’d Stan…the grown man in me says its “water under the bridge” and just move on, but the rabid Suns fan in me says boo that team wrecker…haha
It’s the JRich show!
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
Nash dials up the three. I really wish he’d try to score the ball a little more. He’s too modest.
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
What’s that +1 mean? I see that a lot.
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
I agree with Stan, Barbosa is really starting to come on and it’d be dumb to trade him at this point. He almost seems to be doing better under Porter now than he ever did with D’antoni.
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
I think I figured out what Stat's problem is
He’s bored.
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
Just had
that conversation w/ my daughter’s 6th grade teacher.
“She’s so bright she should be getting A’s. She’s not putting in the effort. She seems bored and disinterested”
I am raising a little mini-Ms Amare. Lord help me.
Anyway – back from parent / teach meeting. Starting the game from tip via Tivo.
I really don’t know how I lived before Tivo/DVR. Life was sadder then.
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by Seth Pollack on Jan 13, 2009 7:50 PM MST up reply actions
I couldn’t have said it better. He’s got the phyiscal body to dominate just about everyone in the league, and should be pulling down 15 boards a night, if only he’d try. He COULD be a 30 and 10 guy if only he’d TRY. But he doesn’t try. He goes out there and gives half effort, which is full effort for most players (poor Lou, if only he could put it on cruise control once in a while).
He’s not being CHALLENGED enough. I know it’s only the regular season, but it sure is dissapointing all the same.
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
I don't know why Lou even posts
He got jobbed on that offensive foul, but still, why is he posting up?
I don't like when the Coyotes and the Suns play at the same time
It’s hard enough to watch/listen to both teams at once, and now I’m posting blog comments in the wrong blog.
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
It sucks. We got back into it, killed off a power play, then fell apart.
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
Put the hurt on Suns
They gotta lock down again and destroy these guys like they did in the 1st.
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
What’s illegal defense?
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
its when
you leave one man to double another…but never go double. You have to commit to a player or be within arm distance.
or something like that
I'm sorry guys
I just got home from work and the first thing I read is the Nash trade rumor???
Are you kidding me!!? is this true??
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
"Don't leave home without it"
Hill and Nash are american express cards, with all the charges they’re taking.
The Atlanta announcer:
“It’s a good thing Shaq’s not a mean spirited guy.”
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
Arg
please get your heads in the game Suns
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
Meh
The deal is the Suns letting up right now
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
sad but true
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
Timely shot
thank you LB
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
Nash the assassin
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
it us wont happen
I heard Kerr say in an interview that they want Nash to retire as a Sun and will offer another contract after this one runs out.
Arg again
Please start makin some cushion here Suns. We dont need a close game.
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
That bad shot
Hurts Nash’s pride…..then LB helps to wipe that away
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
ARG
just nothing going at all
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
Finally
a smart use of the possession
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
I feel like donovan mcnabb
I had no idea there was a delay of game call in basketball
by Wichita SunSteeler on Jan 13, 2009 9:10 PM MST reply actions
He never got the shot off, was called for traveling. But it’s so subjective with the refs. I see players touching the ball all the time after they make a dunk or a layup. They usually throw it against that blue foam gaurding the basket at the baseline. But whatever.
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
its weird
they can grab it and toss it to the ref or lightly toss it towards the blue foam. But if they actually stop motion of game then they get a delay of game “warning.” If it happens again its a tehnical foul.
Okay
That clears a lot up. I guess it makes sense. They’re moving the ball off the court so no referees will trip over it.
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
Another timely 3
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
Close games like this
make me nervous. Never used to, but after losing two recent ones by a buzzer beater, ya gotta worry a bit. Hopefully, thats all behind us.
WHY!!!!!!!!
Man that had epic dunk written all over it!!!!!
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
agreed
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
J-Rich
I didnt see this whole game but where is he?
by Wichita SunSteeler on Jan 13, 2009 9:16 PM MST reply actions
LB had the hot hands so they let him in for a long while
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
Does anyone agree....
If we hold on to win this game, that it’s WAY more impressive than the blowout victory over Dallas?
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
I think so too
but i just want to win… I’ll think about that later. We need to win close games… enough already!
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
If JJ staes
We would have a title and we would have never traded for shaq.
by Wichita SunSteeler on Jan 13, 2009 9:19 PM MST up reply actions
I don't get why
people still perceive us as the same ol’ suns it’s starting to piss me off
by Wichita SunSteeler on Jan 13, 2009 9:18 PM MST reply actions
and what a mistake
no free made for the hawks on one end and then forgot about the 24 sec clock on the other
UGH!!!
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
Huge rebound
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
Followed by Nash the assassin
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
NICE!!!!!!!
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
Still pissed
at the poor effort, but it’s nice to see the Suns get it done when it counts.
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
Yay
well at least they are winning these close games
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
Amares numbers
are slowly going down, atleast were winning though
by Wichita SunSteeler on Jan 13, 2009 9:33 PM MST reply actions
Winning is all that matters
I’d rather win a championship with Amare coming off the bench and getting 10 minutes a game than get knocked out of the playoffs again (or not make them at all).
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
But to be more positive
His statistics may be dropping, but he can still make all the plays. It’s all in his head. I’ll be confident and say when the playoffs come, he’ll snap out of it. Maybe Iverson has his thing with practicing, and Stat has his thing for playing the regular season?
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
If Kerr trades Nash and LB this season
I’ll hate him for the rest of my life. Nash is so F*cking clutch.
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
Josh Smith
Why is it that we always make him look like a superstar, and he averages 13 and 7 against the rest of the league?
April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?
JJ...
goes 4-21 from the field. Was that Richardson’s defense? I didn’t see the game.
April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?
Jrich played him pretty good
Hill logged a lot of minutes on him too. It was a huge team effort though, it was great to watch. Every time he ran through a screen help was there and there were nice doubles down the stretch, great effort from everybody.
by hcblankscreen on Jan 13, 2009 10:04 PM MST up reply actions
Shaq too
Jumped out on those screens and trapped him well. Really great work mostly by Hill
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by Seth Pollack on Jan 13, 2009 10:05 PM MST up reply actions
Amare?
When was the last time Amare carried this team? Just imagine if he could stay on the floor for 40 minutes and find a way to play some D. Man is it frustrating watching him play right now b/c you know he can do it….grrr. And I know we all love Pony Boy for his hustle but he’s barley good enough to be a back up. If we need more then 20minute from him at the four….not good. I really worry about the Suns front court depth and especially until Amare get’s his act together.
The bright side (get it?) is how much better this team still can be.
D was solid mostly by Grant and Shaq and the Suns interior passing is getting fantastic.
The post entry passing problems are gone.
Too many TO’s. Too many 2nd chance points.
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5 assists
He had 5 assists and hit a clutch shot down the stretch.
That’s not exactly carrying team, especially when he didn’t box out on the last two Hawks’ shots allowing them to get purbacks, but it showed some quality.
He’s still a clutch scorer. The Bulls became a championship team when Jordan stopped being the primarily (read as "only") scorer and became a clutch scorer. Amare’s no MJ but the point is that if he comes through in the clutch (as he can if he doesn’t foul out), the Suns have a lot of other players to get the game into the 4th quarter. Pretty good passing out of the high post, too.
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