Amare wants you to know about his tenashious D
The single most compelling conversation among Suns fans these days is Amare Stoudemire and his lack of effort, hustle and drive on the defensive end of the court.
This conversation of course is nothing new. It's been widely understood to be the biggest hole in his game and coming into this season it was something that he talked a lot about.
For a time even he backed it up. Remember this game against the Pacers on November 5th? He was ALL OVER the court on both ends. It wasn't the 49 points that made this his best game ever. It was his total effort and defensive domination. Yes, that's right. Domination. And it wasn't just that game. Amare came out of the gates on fire and had me getting an early jump on the MVP chants.
Amare had publicly talked about wanting to be considered "up there" with Kobe, Wade and LeBron and seemed to fully understand that his path to that rarefied air started on the defensive end, traveled through his rebounding and finished like a monster dunk with his efficient multi modal offensive game.

Unfortunately, regular watchers of the Suns clearly have not seen the follow through. Amare has reverted back. He's picking up silly fouls which show a lack of focus and his lack of effort on the glass and on defense has been made even more noticeable by comparison now that Lou "Lightning" Amundson is backing him up.
Even the most casual of fan can't help but notice the difference in energy and effort when Lou comes in and Amare sits down and the rebounding rates reflect that as well (Amare 8.1 per 36 min vs. 9.8 for Lou).
To some degree of course it's not a fair comparison. We don't expect Lou to have the offensive game that Amare does and in reality Amare should never be expected to bring Lou-like bench energy in his starter role.
Still though, no one can deny that Amare is not playing up to his potential.
No one that is except Amare who after a win over the Hawks which saw the Suns give up a 19 point first half lead said this:
"I play tenashious defense. I am all over the place helping and trying to block shots."
I don't really have a problem with Amare mispronouncing tenacious. That's just kind of funny and we can all have a good laugh at Amare tripping over his tongue. Whatever.
The problem here is that Amare isn't seeing the obvious and if Amare isn't going to recognize the need to improve and step up the effort then I am guessing it's not going to happen.
In the various discussion threads on this topic on Bright Side of the Sun there's a few emerging themes that should be troubling to Amare:
1) This is who he is. Amare is a role player for the Suns and basically is the new Boris Diaw but more explosive offensively. Let's call this the lower the bar paradigm.
I don't think Amare, the Suns or Suns fans want the bar on Amare to be lowered. We want Amare to clear the high bar that he's set for himself. We want Amare to succeed.
2) Then we have Suns fans who have completely given up on Amare and are more then willing to trade him for lesser talented players like Chris Bosh. Chris Bosh is a very good player but there is really little question that Amare SHOULD be the better of the two by far.
It's hard to imagine that Suns getting better by trading Amare. Even a less then super-star Amare is a heck of player and at this point in his career still has potential ahead of him. KG was not his best at 27 years old. Neither was MJ or Kobe. Amare can improve and the Suns do not want to give up too soon on that up-side.
Kerr the enabler
Then we have Steve Kerr who put it this way during a radio interview on KTAR this morning:
Amare's doing as good a job as we can expect of him....Amare's still figuring out the rotations and where he needs to be but the effort is there.
So here we have Steve Kerr saying in pretty clear terms that Amare is not a good defensive player but that his effort is where it should be (you can listen to the full interview here).
Do you buy that Suns fans? Or is that what is called enabling?
I call it spin. Steve Kerr and his staff are very smart evaluators of basketball talent and performance. They are seeing far more then we are but they also are seeing the same things we are.They know Amare needs to pick it up.
It would be detrimental however, to Amare and the Suns for Kerr to throw him under the bus in public.
I just hope in private someone is talking to Amare and explaining to him that his excuses are wearing thin. It's time to deliver and get back to the basketball force that we know he can be.
Why Amare why?
Why is Amare not playing the way we have seen him play just a few weeks ago?
I think that answer lies with Amare having issues with his lesser light role now that Shaq has stepped forward as the team leader.
When Shaq first got to Phoenix he vowed to "fit in" and D'Antoni tried to play Shaq away from his natural position in the low block just to keep the lane clear for Amare and Nash. After a few other Shaq experiments the Suns have settled in and decided to ride the big guy that's bringing it every night.
That's quite a change from Shaq saying this is Amare's team and he's going to help him be the second best big man ever. I suspect that Amare is adjusting to that. He's not getting the ball in isolation at the elbows anymore and he's being asked to fit in with Shaq's team.
The alternative is that Amare has peaked and simply lacks the defensive instincts and internal motivation to fulfill his potential. Many fans have reached that conclusion. I have not. Yet.
Where does Amare go from here?
My guess is that Amare will do what he's done in year's past and snap out of whatever this is and return to the form and level of dominance that we need from him.
As great as Shaq is playing and as improved the offense looks now the Suns will only go as far as Amare takes them. If Amare can play up to his potential you have a team lead by a player as good as LeBron on the offensive end and who's athleticism can be tremendously disruptive on defense.
When you surround a player of that caliber with the likes of Shaq, Nash, Hill and company then you have a championship contending team.
If Amare settles in as a role player and let's the Suns slip away from him then this is a decent playoff team who's age will catch up with them in the second round.
This is Amare's year. The planets could not be aligned better for him to grab the brass ring while Shaq has re-found his youth and Nash is still able to compete at a high level.
Teams with this kind of talent and balance do not come along very often and for all our sakes let's hope Amare recognizes that and gets back to what he can be.
Update: You can listen to Amare's radio interview from this afternoon via Suns.com. When asked about his defense he said he's gotten better but there's room to improve. That's a start.
Other audio: Barbosa, Barnes, Hill and Nash talk after hawks game .
*Audio provided by Sports 620 KTAR
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The Amare Stoudemire Project 2.0?
So Shaq’s not a role player? Whoda thunk?
I think it’s going to take a re-thinking of the offensive game plan to get Amare’s head back in the game. The lane is just too crowded for him to work if he’s at the elbow and Shaq’s down low. Right now, I’m in “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” mode, but I don’t blame Amare for being uncomfortable with the new shape of things. He, Porter, Nash and Shaq need to find a way to mesh styles for his game to work. Like Stan, I think The Big Apostroph’e needs to be fully engaged for the Suns to go deep into the post-season. I just think the chips are stacked against him and his potential the way the team has been riding Shaq.
Thoughts?
by Mike Lisboa on
Jan 14, 2009 4:25 PM MST
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A’m’a’r’e may be facing an uphill battle, but only because he choses to walk and not drive.
His offense isn’t the problem. He’s good for 20 points a game and that’s all we need. What we need from him that he doesn’t do is play with the intensity of Fropez and Pony Boy. If he’d do that he’d rebound and play defense. He’d play up to his size and potential. There is no reason Stat can’t be talked about as an equal to Kobe, Lebron, and Wade. I keep telling msyelf he’s in the top 5 in the league as far as athleticism and skill. But he plays in the bottom five as far as intensity. He gets away with it because he’s so damn good. His “half assing” it is equivalent to most players’ best game.
And when Stat gives his best, we get what we saw in that first Pacers game. And even if the offense goes through Shaq and Nash and not Stat, he can still be the biggest difference-maker on defense. He needs to learn to do anything and everything for his team, and not be content being an offensive weapon.
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
by SunDolphin on
Jan 14, 2009 5:58 PM MST
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Trade him
After a season in which he talked on and on about being a defender, about being like Ron Artest, about his commitment to doing whatever it took to win, the dude has reverted back to a sulking little baby. I applaud his effort in coming back from microfracture knee surgery, but trade him for chris Bosh (if that trade is even remotely on the table, which I highly doubt is the case). Bosh brings it every night, and he wouldn’t be the least bit concerned with being the featured player on this team. With Shaq bouncing back to his 2005-06 self, the Suns should be dominating teams. Amare could be an even better Kevin Garnett intimidator on the blocks. Instead, he is what he is. And, for the record, KG was at his best when he was 27. And Kobe and MJ were peaking or right there. Where he’s at right now, is near Amare’s peak. And it ain’t as high as everyone, including Mr. Sun Tsu himself, at first believed.
by Dodgerblue15 on
Jan 14, 2009 5:17 PM MST
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Bench him
Stat hasn’t, and is not now, peaking. He may never do so. Like you said, he is what he is.
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
by SunDolphin on
Jan 14, 2009 6:04 PM MST
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Awesome post
I feel the same way. He should be smart and play his part. I wouldn’t trade him… I repeat:
I would not trade Amar’e or whatever his name is nowadays.
If you are a great player sorrounded by other great players you should feel blessed not cursed. Look at the Celtics, the big three swallowed their pride and egos and focused on one thing…winning the championship. That’s what smart and veteran players do. I still feel he can change, I’d give him a chance.
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
by PanamaSun on
Jan 14, 2009 6:19 PM MST
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You know
I am getting tired of Amare and his self promoting BS. Can you imagine if he put effort towards getting the ball off of the glass. A guy of this natural raw ability it rattles the mind why this guy doesn’t get on the boards.
I would explore in trading him, however the deal must get a solid player back with at least 1 first round draft pick.
His act is getting old, step the hell up, shut the hell up and play ball Amare.
"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"
by Grockcubs on
Jan 14, 2009 11:28 PM MST
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When I heard Amare say that yesterday
I thought he may have been talking himself up — talking to himself. He was talking about the dumb fouls and trying to point out that he’s putting out more effort on the defensive end. That fourth foul he got was when he tried to jump out on the screen and roll – something he would not have done last year.
When he speaks, he’s speaking to himself as much as to the reporter. He just does his daily affirmations in public (I tend to do them during my morning constitutional — everyone is different). I think he’s talking himself out of his funk.
The main problem I have is wondering what the Suns will do with him. I wouldn’t trade him for anyone not named LeBron. However, he’s going to want a max deal in a few years and I don’t think he’s a max player. He might be a 90% of max player, but I’m not convinced he’s a max contract player. He definitely thinks he’s entitled to 110% of the max, though.
Mmmmm ... Guinness
by JSun on
Jan 15, 2009 1:02 PM MST
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Tenacious D
Sounds like the next new rap artist, kind of like Notoriou BIG.
April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?
by Hawk42 on
Jan 15, 2009 2:56 PM MST
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Showing Your Age
Google “Tenacious D” and see what comes up (or just type it into your browser) … then go see the movie as there are some rock stars you may remember.
Te-Nash-Ious D might be a rapper … or a point guard.
Mmmmm ... Guinness
by JSun on
Jan 15, 2009 4:10 PM MST
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Plastic surgery
Actual-age Dio in a movie set 20 years ago?
He has not aged well. thanks for the video
Mmmmm ... Guinness
by JSun on
Jan 15, 2009 7:57 PM MST
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