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Nuggets beat the "Tenacious D" Suns in OT 119-113

Wow. What can I say about this game? Where do I start?

The Suns knew that this was going to be a tough game on the road. Denver had been playing really well as of late even without Melo and they are really tough at home. So let me get something out of my chest before we start talking about the game: Why do you sit Shaq today? Because we play Minnesota tomorrow you dummy! Oh yeah...you mean the Minnesota Timberwolves? The ones that have an 11-26 record? Seriously?!

Ok, now that we got that out of the way, let's talk about our new defensive-minded Suns.

Star-divide

Thanks to Lebron James, who decided to take a jump shot instead of driving to the basket for the win, I was not able to watch the first 6 minutes of the game where Denver started with a 7-0 lead. Mercifully The Bulls and the Cavs ran out of timeouts and the game was over with. I tuned in just in time to watch Lou dunk the ball and get high fives from his teammates.

The Suns were able to recover from the slow start and finished the 1st Quarter shooting 62% from the field vs. 35% from Denver and were able to build a 9 point lead. This has been a common trend for the Suns: they start with a lot of energy outscoring teams, shooting a high percentage and suddenly they just... collapse.

 We saw interesting things happen during the first half: Dudley and Tucker got some playing time but did not stay for long since Denver made their comeback in the second quarter and Barbosa (who often comes in late in the second quarter) was in since the first quarter. I guess Porter wanted to give him more playing time since he had been playing very well. Had, Past tense.

The Bad

Amare's foul trouble and Tenacious D: I think Amar'e just proved to us that a time machine really exists. He is back to being the brainless player that we all hate. Picking up silly fouls, sitting on the bench for most of the game, letting people blow by him for easy lay ups and dunks, not boxing out, turnover prone. And you want to know what's the most amazing part of all? He ends up with a Stat line like this one; 21 points, 8 rebounds, 3 assists. I mean this guy is a master in padding up his Stats. K-Mart owned him tonight in all aspects of the game and he should be ashamed of himself, this was a perfect opportunity for him to be "The Man" and he failed miserably.

Turnovers: 23 turnovers. This will kill you against any team, let alone against one who lives by the fast break. It seamed like Kleiza was playing all by himself out there, how many lay ups and dunks did this kid have?  Transition defense was awful throughout the whole game. Denver got back in the game thanks to the uncontested lay ups, dunks etc.

Matt Barnes: This guy is officially in a big slump. He is making bad decisions on the court. He got called for offensive fouls, threw up bricks, made bad passes. He finished with 5 TOs and eventually fouled out of the game.

I can come up with a bunch of things that went wrong in this game for the Suns, like Leandro going 1-11, Robin Lopez (are you kidding me) playing like a 5 year old but after all, this is the bright side of the sun so let's try to give it a positive spin on this bitter recap.

The Good:

Nash continues to be as clutch as anyone in the game. He made big shots when we needed them the most and kept us in the game when we were down in the 3rd quarter and 4th quarter. He finished with 20 points, 14 assists but he did have 6 Tos. We have to give a lot of credit to the Nuggets defense. They shut down Nash every single time that he wanted to create something. They put different bodies on him, JR, Carter, Billups. Nash wanted to go to Amar'e in the fourth and OT but always had to make a pass to other teammate due to the Nuggets great defense.

Grant Hill: He had a season high 25 points to go along with some clutch plays down the stretch. He was all over the place and Porter rewarded him with the last possession of the game (or so we thought) where he drove to the basket and got fouled but the refs never blew the whistle. Billups went to the line last night and won the game against Dallas for much less than that. But whatever, I'm used to getting screwed by the refs. I'm just sayin'...

I'll have to say that the Suns competed. That's all that we can ask from them on a road game. We where one rebound away from winning.  During the fourth quarter with less than 2 minutes to play, JR Smith got an offensive rebound that Grant would have had if he wouldn't have slipped. He shot the three and BAM! We are all tied.

I won't put the blame (at least not all) one the refs. The Suns played well enough to win but also played bad enough to lose. We need to take care of business early in the game and stop leaving things to luck...we all know that doesn't work well for us.

PS: Thanks to all of you who participated in the game thread,  that was the bright spot of the night. You were awesome.

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The Suns played well enough to win but ……
Are you kidding me? It was the worst game I have seen in time
The third quarter of Nash was horrible
López, what can I say of López?
I say again: “WE NEED CHANGES”

by matrix7 on Jan 16, 2009 2:28 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

You're missing the point

“Are you kidding me? It was the worst game I have seen in time”

Did they play horribly? Absolutely.

But it was still enough to give them a shot at winning the game.

by underxthebridge on Jan 16, 2009 8:14 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

just a thought

terry porter really seems to be throwing games. o_O anyone else think he may want the suns to get the 6th or 7th seed? think about it. its gonna be an uphill battle and maybe well finish with the 4th seed. which means we play the lakers in the 2nd round. if we throw a few games here and there we maintain the 6th seed as the underdog (no pressure on porter to get us past the 1st round) and if we do, which we prolly will, we avoid the lakers.

by ryansunsfan on Jan 16, 2009 2:50 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

And...

Run the risk of meeting the Spurs in the first round again.

I’m not convinced we have a better chance of beating the Spurs than the Lakers.

by Azreous on Jan 16, 2009 9:40 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

oh btw

moron point for kerr. why? he hired terry porter who decided not to play shaq against a playoff team. o_O

by ryansunsfan on Jan 16, 2009 3:11 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

What the Hell Porter is doing..

Sitting Shaq every other game? Did he look even to sched who they are playing againts when Shaq need to sit?

Shaq can take rest every other game thats not a question, BUT LET HIM SIT IN UNIFORM just dont let him play, so in worst scenario Atleast he could play 8 minutes at 4th Quarter.

What a waste of talent, give away games. I dont know why Porter never recieve a memo from kerr.

by spoiled on Jan 16, 2009 3:28 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

i know

i mean, come on, you can sit him against the timberwolves, but against the nuggets? wtf??

by ryansunsfan on Jan 16, 2009 3:55 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Devil's advocate

But it does garuantee a split. Maybe Porter is thinking we may still lose to Denver, even with Shaq, and if we do, we may very well lose to Minn without him. So instead of taking the 0-2 back to back, he gambled with the possiblity that we may beat Denver without Shaq (we came frustratingly close) and the sure fact that, with Shaq, we will destroy Minn tonight.

Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.

by SunDolphin on Jan 16, 2009 10:37 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Well...

Unless we lose to the Timberwolves. But I’m sure that won’t happen.

by Azreous on Jan 16, 2009 9:41 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Sometimes I have these dreams where I'm wrong.

But no. There’s no way we could lose to the Timberwolves. A player of Amare’s caliber simply wouldn’t allow it.

by Azreous on Jan 17, 2009 9:27 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I was watching this game last

night thinking back to when Amare wouldn’t have. On occasion he would have a sub-par game but you KNEW he would respond the next night out. He ALWAYS did. He’s slipping which is what makes this so much worse

by Phoenix Stan on Jan 17, 2009 12:05 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Jefferson would put up 40 on Amare and Fropez.

Shaq is scheduled to play the next 3 games.

by stampchez on Jan 16, 2009 10:42 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't have issue with Shaq sitting

I imagine this is worked out long in advance and most likely Shaq is on board for this sitting.
 Now Porter needs to wipe off the dust on offensive sets, hey when the freaking pick n roll is not working run some other sets. They stuck with the PNR all night.
 Lopez is not even close to be usuable in a game, he has bust all over him.
 Amare should be traded, what a waste of extreme talent, but sometimes between the ears is more important and Amare is lacking how to play the game and play it every night.
 What a frustrating squad; one night look unbeatable and last night look like garbage.

"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"

by Grockcubs on Jan 16, 2009 4:38 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Seemed weird at 1st, but it makes sense

One of the Nugs main weapons last night was transition baskets, that’s not something Shaq is going to be helpful at, other than getting a few more boards. Their bigs are very mobile as well. Porter is saying they sat Shaq so he could play the next 3, against Jefferson, O’Neal, and the Cs.

by SoCalSun on Jan 16, 2009 1:35 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

CHANGES?>

You people love them when they win, and hate them when they do not.

At any rate, we all knew this was going to happen as soon as they put Shaq away. Historically (especially in the playoffs) good teams hound Nash and to no surprise and no help from the Referees it is highly effective way to put the Suns off their game. Recently when this happens Nash pushes the ball just outside of the elbow and tosses it to Shaq, which is undoubtedly by design and also an effective way to counteract the defense on Nash.

As far as Stat goes, he is a beast. His fouls are not stupid. No matter how well the man plays defense he WILL be called for ticky tack fouls. There is federal documentation (i.e. Tim Donaghy) that explains that you can bet on games with 90 % success rate if you know things such as: player referee relationship, player tendencies and so on. What does this mean????

It means that every time Stat steps on the court the referees are looking specifically for him to commit certain fouls. Maybe concentrating so hard that they miss certain other game winning fouls or fouls that are more relevant.

Watch:

This youtube video of some of the things I’m talking about.

"We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time." - Vince Lombardi

by antiw0rm on Jan 16, 2009 7:50 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

IMHO

I do feel that the refs have a tendency to call a lot of fouls on him but it’s no longer an excuse. How can you explain how well he was playing earlier this season? He wasn’t getting in foul trouble at all. Was it because the refs were in a good mood during those games? Or was it because Amare was using his brain and playing smart….

At some point we have to blame the player and not the refs… last night all of the fouls (from my point of view) were deserved.

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Jan 16, 2009 8:52 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

You can only use the same excuse for so long. Great players always learn to adjust to adversity, and Stat never has adjusted to the adversity that is NBA referees.

Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.

by SunDolphin on Jan 16, 2009 10:40 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

STAT is a beast

please. If he is a beast, he stays on the floor, he will take over a game, don’t take 22ft fall aways, and demand the ball and produce. STAT is not a winner, winners do the dirty work, bust there ass, STAT does not do these things, it is time to move on with Amare

"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"

by Grockcubs on Jan 16, 2009 3:27 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

At first...

…I was upset.

Then I remembered that assuming they make the playoffs, we won’t see a back to back situation that will ever cause Shaq to be sitting. I’m pretty confident we’ll make the post season, barring any sort of major injuries. If that happens, we won’t have to worry about watching the team from last night play.

by underxthebridge on Jan 16, 2009 8:17 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Umm Sure

but come on, we have to win games without Shaq, otherwise we are being over reliant on him, and come playoff time that could be dangerous if he picks up a niggle

by RottPhiler on Jan 16, 2009 11:58 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Just read the article and...

Amare just doesn’t get it.

“Right now, they’re just, ‘Hey, I’m playing Amare.’ It’s all right. I want to get back to the point where I put fear in guys’ hearts. Hopefully, it comes soon.”

Hopefully, it comes soon? Hopefully?? Make it happen. If shots aren’t falling or you can’t get to the rim, GO GET AN OFFENSIVE REBOUND! On the defensive end, instead of standing around watching until your man gets the ball, GET IN PASSING LANES, PLAY HELP DEFENSE, AND REBOUND!

You’re a Power Forward in this league. Scoring isn’t your only job! If Amare had half of the drive that Amundson has, he’d be a beast. Instead, he’s becoming even more frustrating to watch than Boris was.

Does he not watch himself in film just standing around? Has he never seen a player like Dwight Howard play and say “hey, if I want to get the same recognition that he’s getting, then maybe I should do some of the things he does like rebound and play defense!”

by brian13 on Jan 16, 2009 11:39 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Agree

STAT should look at Howard and how he plays, there is no reason why Amare shouldn’t average 12 boards a game. Rebounding and “D” is heart and desire. I believe Amare lacks both.
 Amare will go down in Suns history as what if?

"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"

by Grockcubs on Jan 16, 2009 3:32 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

He scares me

how stupid he is every time he opens his mouth. Shut up and play like the man.

by TwinnerA on Jan 16, 2009 3:37 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

You people love them when they win, and hate them when they do not.

I never Hate them (Suns) or even my Fav team when they loss, as im happy to win.
But there was a loss that can be avoid to happen (where is shaq).

My argument is, why dont Porter do the same thing for Shaq like how Boston treated their oldies (KG, PP, RA). Give Shaq a Limited minutes every other game or not play him at all if it safe to win instead of keeping him sideline in street clothes.

For a die hard fans of any team, that move is a No Brainer for the Coach.

by spoiled on Jan 16, 2009 10:13 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Limited minutes

I think that the process of warming up for the game and even 10 minutes of game time is much “worse” on his body then resting altogether.

As an older person (older then Shaq anyway) I know that recovery time has dropped dramatically for me at about 36.

I like what they are doing by both limiting his minutes in the games he plays AND giving him this rest.

I think if Shaq is able to go 35 mpg in the playoffs then we will be thankful for this plan.

by Phoenix Stan on Jan 16, 2009 12:04 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

oh and also

the Suns still (obviously) need to learn to play without Shaq should he not be available….

The Suns needed to learn to play with Shaq (which they’ve pretty much done) and only then they can learn to play again without him which clearly needs more work.

So these games without him are also kind of preparation and learning in case he does go down at a critical point later in the season.

by Phoenix Stan on Jan 16, 2009 12:26 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Shaq or no, this was a very winnable game

Seems like the same deal we’ve seen many times this season—the Suns come out hot, but can’t blow the game open enough to put the other squad away. The Suns are surely gaining this reputation around the league by now this season, and other teams know that if they keep fighting the Suns will let them back in.

It’s tempting to blame the blown call on Hill, but that rebound they missed a little earlier than that for the J.R. Smith 3 could have sealed the deal.

by SoCalSun on Jan 16, 2009 1:39 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

And I thought we were going to be different this year

Same old Suns. Not able to close quarters, teams getting the critical offensive rebound, blow the big lead.

That’s why other teams feel comfortable playing against us. No matter what the lead is, they are always thinking “we are going to get back in the game”.

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Jan 16, 2009 2:29 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

one game

(well plus SA and Indy) so let’s not panic….again.

This team is getting better but its still only half way to the starting line (playoffs).

by Phoenix Stan on Jan 16, 2009 2:39 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I panic every time we lose

Can’t help it. That’s what this team does to me.

by TwinnerA on Jan 16, 2009 3:35 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I've learned from your Jedi ways to not panic

Panic?… not at all. I’m just pointing out things that they continue to do wrong.

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Jan 16, 2009 4:32 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Lets make history

and make the first ever Coach Trade. Can we do that? Can we trade porter for somebody else? Somebody thats better at rotations and motivating players.

And if you act now, we’ll toss in a few rookies: lopez, dragic…all you pay is the shipping and handling

by KnowGood on Jan 16, 2009 12:02 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

fropez

Remember that time the suns wasted a first round pick on robin lopez…oh damn nevermind.

by firetomleander on Jan 16, 2009 1:32 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

don't give up yet....

he’s a rookie big man and they take time

by Phoenix Stan on Jan 16, 2009 2:38 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

rotation

Wow, what was with that rotation in the 3rd with Lopez, Tucker, and Amundsun (I think) for a good stretch?? Ouch. I think a very cold Barnes was out there with them, too!

by KJ7 on Jan 16, 2009 3:20 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

can we

alternate Robin Lopez to his brother Brook without New Jersey and the League notice it?..
Just cut both of their hair the same so its unrecognizable?
This is NBA, where impossible things make possible happens.

by spoiled on Jan 16, 2009 4:15 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

hahaha

if the nets dont make the playoffs, maybe brook wouldnt mind helping the suns out. :)

by ryansunsfan on Jan 16, 2009 7:46 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

That would be

a great Fan Post. You should write that up

by Phoenix Stan on Jan 16, 2009 11:54 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

how are we complaining about rotations?

Seriously. This is how the bench gets better. You play them now in somewhat meaningless games now so that when the playoff push comes they aren’t deer in headlights. This was a major knock against D’Antonio and now we’re knocking Porter because he does allow the bench to play? In order for these guys to get better they have to play against real competition and not just practice. This will result in the blowing built leads as we’ve seen in the past few games. But really its for the bigger prize.

by krazy807 on Jan 17, 2009 3:04 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

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