There ain’t enough ball for Amare and the rest of the team. Not totally amare’s fault, but facts is facts. There ain’t any more room for stars, we need a role player.

Please tell me is fake…please Stan…

it feels more than an epic fail… but there is no other word that would sound as good as EPIC

I’m prepared to hear all kinds of excuses.

B/c one of the points of contention last year was to make Amare a more focal point on offense. More post ups. Where is the paving of Amare’s dominance in the offense?

He’s been reduced to a cranky role player with an MVP headswell.

Its all good when he’s the coach and he makes his players better (stats wise and contract potential wise) as Bill Simmons said…… but what happens when he leaves???

All his players are exposed defensively, and hence the whole team is a HUGE liability to new coaches who want a defense first philosophy implemented…….

We have a team built specifically for D’antoni’s style of play. But Coach D’s style will never win a championship, and since that’s what we all want (well, it’s what I want, anyway), the only way to build a team capable of playing the lock down, 4 quarter Defense needed to win a championship (what we all clearly saw tonight by Boston) is to get new personel. That means Nash and Stat and anyone else not willing or not capable of defending needs to find a team that wants them (New York).

I’m not advocating a mid season house cleaning. But we better do something in the offseason or we’re gonna sink even lower next year. I’d much rather be a 25 win team with the sky above us than a 45-50 win team sinking faster than gravity can keep up.

That said, I feel confident about the guys on the court late in the game. Dragic, Lopez, Tucker, Barbosa, Dudley, Armundson, JRich. These guys are the future of our team. Not Shaq, Amare, Hill, Barnes, or Nash, even if three out of the four are still playing well—they’re old and we’ll not see a championship in their remaining careers.

Build around Tucker. Kerr has put in a group of young talent that, if properly cultivated, and adding a few key pieces, can strike fear into any offense’s heart, unlike the Suns have ever seen, and just as easily destroy any defense as what we’ve seen the Suns do in the last few years. None of us should have thought this season was going to be easy. Obviously we thought Shaq was done and wasting 20 mil, and Stat would be MVP, but the opposite is true (Shaq is worth every penny!) but the outcome is the same. We’re a 7 or 8 seed if we’re lucky and if we’re not, well, we may be seeing some of our most loved players gone before next season.

D’antoni and Sarver for selling draft picks, Kerr for drafting Lopez and Dragic, ( sorry I don’t see Lopez as a player in this league) and for Robert Horry for drilling Nash into the stands.
  I would trade Amare for 2 no. 1’s and a bag of balls if you could get it. He has to go, his act is wearing out in Phoenix and it is quite obvious. He must be traded.
 Next, which will never happen, fire Terry Porter. He is way over his head, hire Jeff Van Gundy.
 This squad has some good players, but it is not a team, not even close.

23 turnovers…….ahhhhhhhh. Porter should be ripping his hair out if he had any….This Team has so much talent….Amare needs to go get his head straight….wtf….easily the worst game of his career….out played by Robin Lopez……I really thought Shaq was going to dominate down low, but Amare did nothing to take pressure off. One rebound…Dragic had two…..Tucker looked pretty good in scrap time. Lets get him in the rotation…..Oh well lets see how they respond…Sometimes it’s is good to hit rock bottom……

I wouldn’t begin trading just yet….. see the team has so much talent, I mean on paper the weakest link among the starters seems to be, of all people Grant Hill….. if thats the case, then the team has some serious talent….

While I agree with Kerr’s view that this team should commit more on defense, it shouldn’t be the first priority……

The point everybody seems to be missing is, this team is not built to be a lockdown defensive team like the Celtics or the Cavs…… Its just not built in the Sp*rs image to do that……

It is time for top management to state their goals
IF – the goal is to build a lockdown defensive team, THEN – blow the team up and, go trade for a few defensive minded players (like Boston did – they had a good defender in Pierce, they went out and got themselves another good defender in KG, see how that dovetailed into the original plan)…..
or
IF – the goal is to have the same core of Amare + Nash + JRich + Shaq , THEN – try to fit a system that best suits and taps into the talent of all the pieces you already have….. if that means running, then that means running…..

you can’t turn Amare into Tim Duncan overnight, or over the course of a season for that matter :)

Create a meaningful plan as those players have still high value to acquire new, young, athletic and defensive minded players who will be the face of organization for the next decade. I know how much Suns people love Amar’e and Nash for what they did good for the team, but now is completely different game and needed new personnel to match up.

If suns can get Chris Bosh, Graham, Anthony Parker or Calderon/Kapono for Amar’e and Nash, then why not take the chance and let those people go.

If Wolves value KG as their MVP and Franchise player but in the end they traded him for some new and young talent, as well as Shaq got traded by LA Lakers after giving them 3 Championships and Heat after 1 Championship. Amar’e and Nash still not giving any of those to Phoenix than a run and gun game who’s Fun for the Fans. Then why Suns keep holding them and waiting for the time that their value is gone, than exploring options now to have a new players fit for the new system.

this team will not be a defensive stalwart. ever. thibodeau changed many players in boston who are playing better defense, but 3 out of their starting 5 (rondo kg perkins) have been good-to-great defenders by their own right, so pierce’s and allen’s deficiencies don’t show as much. so if WE had players like that, our defense would be better. it is not entirely dependent on the coach or the style. our players are suited for something else… not really SSOL but still an offensive juggernaut. i know that ‘defense wins championships’ (fuck that truth) but the point is: if we can score more, better, in more ways, we win. point blank. and we just have too many weapons which could be utlized one after the other to create confusion in other teams. go to shaq early. get bigs in foul trouble. then go to the perfected nash-amaré PnR. then kickouts to barnes, j-rich, nash and so on. slashers: barnes, jSun richardson, hill (also mid-range game!) and so on. we have plenty offesnive weapons and possibilities, perhaps more than any other team in the league. don’t force what you can’t achieve. play mediocre defense: with our current players that’s what we can do. but attack in multiple ways. if you read raptors republic, they had a great point after last night’s game: rule number 1: you don’t get into an offensive pissing contest with the suns. management should realize that this is an offensive team, not a defensive one. don’t blow up everything just yet. attack in different ways, confuse the defense. in earlier times we would use amaré and marion on the break or shooters. many times PnR. no we can run if we want to (j-rich and barnes on the wings, also tucker) shoot if we want to (barnes, nash jrich) play PnR (nash, amaré), dish it to the big fella, and let him do his thing, work aounrd the defense and so on. why not attack? i know the d’natoni team failed but this offense is potientally even more dangerous.

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How do you folks feel about that?