moron point for kerr!

by ryansunsfan on Jan 6, 2009 5:34 AM MST Comment 14 comments

steve kerr, who wanted to instill defense in the suns, hired terry porter, a "defensive-minded" coach. the result? we are 24th in the league in defensive efficiency (down from approximately 15th last year), while the no "d" antoni coached knicks are 22nd.

yes, thats not a misprint. but wait. its not the fault of the GM right? even if he handpicked the coach, when so many high-profile guys were still on the table (avery johnson, tom thibodeau, scott skiles). so yes, our defense has gone to the crapper. but wait! theres more! our offense, number 1 last year, is now number 4. Hell no.

KERR. IS. A. MORON.

[Note by Phoenix Stan, 01/06/09 2:20 PM PST ]

I initially resisted issuing a Moron Point for statistical trends which reflect results over time and is antithetical to the event driving purpose of the Genius/Moron Point system.

However, the fact that the Knicks are a better defensive team then the Suns really can't be ignored. I do think the Sun defense is improving and I do think there are a lot of the story that stats don't explain (like the Suns having a far better record then the Knicks) but alas this couldn't be left unaddressed.

So, with some reluctance Steve Kerr is issued a Moron Point for putting together a Suns team that has a lower defensive rating then the 'Antoni led Knicks. Sorry Steve but facts is facts.

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I think it's too early to tell because

the season is still early and there’s a transition going on.

With the “other” options, I’m not sure about the situation with other options.

by Azrael on Jan 6, 2009 7:07 AM MST reply actions 0 recs

i guess your right

still, i would think we should have at least gotten better than 24th overall. i understand with change comes some struggles, but good grief, i think this is a little too much.

by ryansunsfan on Jan 6, 2009 7:55 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Also i think

that all those troubles not just because of Kerr, but by those individual itself.

I mean, how could you blame Kerr for Richardson DUI? Did he inform Kerr before drinking?
its like what i did wrong in my life will be blame to my father.

Btw being a fan, it will be always a blame game.

by spoiled on Jan 6, 2009 7:56 AM MST reply actions 0 recs

Kerr

Tried to put the right people alltogether, the problem? Most of them doesnt wanted to work alltogether.. And hey, Suns still tough compare to other team that is on rebuilding mode. Suns still clinching Playoff, and i think its better not to look on those kind of Stat as most of the time its not accurate.

by spoiled on Jan 6, 2009 8:00 AM MST reply actions 0 recs

Wonder what the

stats are for just the new Suns v3.0-2008 (since the JRich trade)?

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by Phoenix Stan on Jan 6, 2009 8:15 AM MST reply actions 0 recs

Nevertheless

I think ryansunsfan has a “point” (get it?). I noticed this yesterday. I second the motion for a defensive moron point for Kerr until post-trade stats or results become available. If there is marked improvement, we can balance it out with a genius point.

by Mike Lisboa on Jan 6, 2009 9:42 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Yes and but

I think I am nore inclined to give points for specific events. Good games. Bad games. Blown defensive assignments that allow wide open game winning shots by George Mason.

Giving points for bigger trends seems like a slippery slope for the totally scientific and rules based processes that guide and legislate the proper administration and awarding of Moron/Genius points.

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by Phoenix Stan on Jan 6, 2009 11:16 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

agreed

Perhaps Bell’s lousy play was sabotaging the defensive efficiency stat, and Kerr corrected the problem.

The Shaq is Back

by ZonaFlash on Jan 6, 2009 2:53 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

other coaches

skiles would have killed everyone. he is as far from a players coach and he has as much liking to offensive juggernauts as is pluto from earth. johnson is a dictator, and he already wrecked a very good PG before he was released from his ghastly grasp

Once upon a time the Suns got out on the break... and along came Steve sucKerr

by Murcy on Jan 6, 2009 1:22 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

I think it's an amazing moron point really.

Knicks are better defenders than Suns?

Who on the planet would have predicted such this summer?

Even if it is fluke, that the two teams are so close is a shocker.

Not trying to change your mind Stan, but Ryan has really pointed out something!

The Shaq is Back

by ZonaFlash on Jan 6, 2009 2:50 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

So the "event"

is the Knicks being better defensive team then the Suns…

I can buy that

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by Phoenix Stan on Jan 6, 2009 2:57 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

but come on!!!!!!!!

I’m going to hold off on comparing…they’re not the same team…they’re different players…how the hell is porter going to make nash into a great defender…it’s not in his ability…nash does great with what he has….but he simply (on defense) is a huge liability. Same with Shaq and Amare…with Shaq’s age (even though he is playing great) and Amare’s lack of training under d’antoni on defense…it’s not something I’d expect to change fast…also…amare is a stat man….he cares about stats and offense and dunks…not about defense…he figures if he makes a block here or there or has a few big rebounding games…that he’s good….and to be fair…he has had moments of greatness on defense…but they’re just that moments…in general…he’s a million miles away from where he should be on defense

Also, Porter hasn’t had this team long enough to judge…I’d give him 2 full years before I make any quick comparisons…stat wise or other…

by be-the-ball on Jan 8, 2009 9:34 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs