Game Day Thread -- Pacers at Suns
by ZonaFlash on Jan 7, 2009 4:56 PM MST
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PrintIndiana Pacers at Phoenix Suns, Jan 7, 2009 7:00 PM MST
 Indiana Pacers |
 Your Phoenix Suns |
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| 12-22 | 19-12 | |
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7:00 PM Mountain / 9:00 PM Eastern |
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| TV: FSIN, FSAZ | ||
| Probable starters: | ||
| Jarrett Jack |
PG | Steve Nash |
| Marquis Daniels |
SG | Jason RichardSon (sober) |
| Danny Granger |
SF | Grant Hill |
| Troy Murphy |
PF | A'm'a'r'e Stoudemire |
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Roy Hibbert |
C | |
Pregame Coverage: Yahoo! ESPN
Catch the Indiana fans here: Indy Cornrows
Make no mistake the once proud basketball state of Indiana is in hibernation this season. Most people in Indianapolis are Colts fans for good reason. Meanwhile, at my favorite university, Indiana University, land of the Hoosiers, you have to specifically ask a local sports bar to put on a Pacers game, because people would rather watch the Bulls instead.
The anemic roster features rookie Roy Hibbert in the critical role of Shaq Stopper. TJ Ford is out with a sore lower back so Jarrett Jack is filling in. You know things are bad when the team is looking all starry-eyed at the eventual return of Mike Dunleavy. Although Danny Granger is a rising star, the team's salary structure doesn't leave much hope for future improvement via free agency anytime in the near future.
Despite this, we hope the Suns will come out and punish this team. All logic would have put money on the Suns vs. the Clippers in Phoenix on the 2nd, especially with being 23 up and with 6 minutes to go, and after the Clippers partied all night at a strip club the night before. The Suns had every reason to win that game, but that's why the games are played and not resolved in a blog brawl.
Here's audio from KTAR.
Rookie Matchup: Hibbert vs. Lopez!
Porter says Shaq's back not bad
The Amar'e Initiative
Last night, David West dropped 40 on the Lakers big lineup in a Hornets win. I've often thought about David West vs. Amare Stoudemire. Amare is younger, with more upside and a better inside offensive game. Amare is obviously the better player! Obvious. But you know, David West is more unselfish and comes with a far more modest contract, pulling less than 10 million per year. I worry about Amare's self-aggrandizing behavior sabotaging the team.
Last time the Suns met the Pacers, Amare dropped 50 on them. I'm looking for repeat performance from STAT tonight on Indy's weak frontline. Once is lucky. Twice is conclusive.
Here's a clip of Amare abusing Jeff Foster and thoughtfully tipping over to draw a foul from the last time these two teams met.
Here's Amare's other 47 points from the game... =)
Let's see some Amare Initiative in the game tonight!!
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It's the goggles man.
He hasn’t been the same without them.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
No doubt
It might have made him focus more simply b/c they were a nuisance. Without them he’s too comfortable.
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by Seth Pollack on Jan 7, 2009 11:38 AM MST up reply actions
Cant Wait
After what feels like an eternity without Suns basketball it’s finally time. What’s even better is I shall be in attendence as well.
Fun times indeed, fun times.
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
Goggles
They definitely make him focus. Since he took them off, I’ve lost all my love for him. He’s got to learn to play “right” and not talk “big.” I just get so frustrated that he can’t dominate the league like Kobe or James. A freak is a freak is a freak and should always PLAY like one.
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
The first game in like 600 days...
And I’ll be on an airplane for almost all of it. Ah well.
Let Granger get his 30, but shut everyone else down, please.
Like I said in the thread against the clippers
These are great games we’re playing to open the new year. Below avg teams that will be used more as practice games than intense and emotional games (ie: vs lakers). Great way for our guys to find a rhythm, break out of slumps, get everybody on the same page, and become a solid unit.
What’s the deal with Tucker? Is he back in phx and able to dress for a game? I know he was sent to the energy to break off some rust. I’d love to see him get some game time cause I think he’d do really well for this squad. And now is a great time to get him involved and find minutes for him while we’re going up against crappy teams (for lack of a better adj.).
He is back and I am sure will suit up
I agree the Suns should win but yikes – let’s not forget the Pacers beat the C’s and the Lakers this year. They both probably thought that it was just a practice game.
The Suns let down against the Clips and the coach was pissed about it. Let’s see them play hard for 3 and half quarters and then we can see Tuck get some minutes.
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Coach Porter
Porter’s response to the let-down against the Clippers was just the coolest thing ever. Discipline starts with accountability, I think. Have to admit you were wrong before you can train yourself to do it right. D’antoni never understood that, or cared, or admitted that he was wrong. Coach D was like a substitute teacher in the sense that he let the class do what they wanted while the real teacher was away.
Can I say that so far this season Coach Porter has shown himself to be the anti-D’antoni?
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
by SunDolphin on Jan 7, 2009 6:39 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Shaq isn't playing
I just read this on Yahoo Sports. It’s because of his back. Is this contagious? Nash, now Shaq. I guess we’ll see if the team can overcome adversity without Shaq as well as they can with him, won’t we?
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
Let's see if R. Lo was "waiting for tonight"...
…to show his worth. Coach called you out, now step up!
Yup
This is a sloppy start. At home, should come out and barn storm the Pacers. Lopez has 2 fouls. Terrible.
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
Can't expect them to not have a little rust
by hcblankscreen on Jan 7, 2009 7:23 PM MST up reply actions
I forgot
They have had, what, nearly a week off? I can’t even remember it’s been so long. And it’s not like they’re down 32-0…
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
lol
we need more of that. If only hustle was a drink.
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
will he be a difference maker?
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
lol
I think that answered my question
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
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Great link, thanks! How’d you find this?
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Iowa
I was born in Mesa, though only lived their until I was two.
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Guttenberg
Along the Mississippi, north of Dubuque. It’s quaint. I’m the only Suns fan in the county.
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
Ah
was wonder if you are in Des Moise and can catch Energy games…but that’s a ways away.
My wife’s family is in Bloomfield which is Davis county which is south and west of Ottumwa.
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It's a small world
Did you convert your wife’s family to the Suns?
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
Nah
they are so far in the sticks they don’t even get TeeVee :)
and all they can seem to focus on is the Cyclones. Pathetic.
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Jeez
Just checking in hoping to see a nice start and find no Shaq? What the heck did he do to his back?
giving up way too many threes now
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
Porter looks pissed!
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
Amundson!
Is leading in points and rebounds!
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
I knew he'd be great
but I didnt expect him to be this good this soon….and better than everyone else
good god lou is the leading scorer and rebounder? we’re in for a long, long night
I'm just like you, only ten times better.
I hope the other Suns feed off his energy
So the night won’t be that long. He’s leading because he’s absolutely dominating out there.
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
On the Atlanta Braves blog
A guy ripped me, said he would laugh all week, because I implied Tampa Bay won the American League with intangibles.
I’ll tell you, I really believe in guys that can play like Amundson. He’s not the most talented guy out there but he CAN play and with his hustle he’s going to outplay guys that people wouldn’t expect him to ever be better than.
Stat should take a note. A double double in 14 minutes.
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
But we're down only 9
One of the announcers said Indy should be kicking themselves for not being up by 20. But I think it’s time to give Pony Boy a horse steroid and bring him back in the game.
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
And play freakin’ defense. It’s 4 points now.
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
A question
Why doesn’t Stat take more jumpers? He makes them it seems whenever he takes them. Easy points if he can’t get to the basket.
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
I felt good about it
But that was before the half started. We pulled to 2, but now we’re down 11. I’m still positive. Finish strong, and it’ll be like the first three quarters never happened.
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
I'm confused
maybe its cause I’m a an on a couch and not a player on the court…but….if you grab the rebound inside and are hounded and being prevented from making a move to the rim…why dont you pass it out and reset? Is that not a possibility?
Or gaurd the three point shooters?
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
NASH!
Hopefully he starts scoring and changes the momentum
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
another missed free throw!R#$$#^$#$%&$*&*&*^%*^*&^*&#$*&%(^
I'm just like you, only ten times better.
What an ugly quarter. They almost play like mentally, they’re not there. They just go through the motions. That’s how it seems to me.
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
True
But the third, for me, was the most dissapointing knowing they HAD to come out and play well.
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
Suns going small
working out so far! 6 point game
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
even if we win...and we better....
it feels like a loss. This was some of the ugliest play I’ve seen so far this season.
However I feel as a Suns fan
I’d feel worse as a Pacer fan. They’re starting to implode. The game’s not over with yet, but I’m going to run out and get some xanax for Indy. They’ll need it.
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
There's a chance for 4 double double's
Nash already has his, STAT, pony boy, and Jrich are almost there!
Rather have the win than the balance.
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
Trading the entire team would be more humane, but I think it’d be fun your way.
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
my perfect gameplan
On offense: Nash three, Stat dunk, JRich three, Stat dunk, Barbosa layup, Barbosa three. For defense we call timeout and sub Boston into the game.
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
which boston? the current one or the one that won 19 in a row?
actually thinking about it, the current boston would still be better than what the suns are currently doing
I'm just like you, only ten times better.
LOL
The announcer says we’re having a fantastic game. I say wtf is he smoking?
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
More pull up jumpers!
like Lebron sings “time after time”
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
Barnes
could have used all that time he wasted arguing the call thinking about what he’d do on defense.
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
if the 3 hasnt worked all night...
dont count on them now. Take it if you get an open look, but dont look for it until the time forces ou into desperation. There’s still plenty of time on the clock. Play solid and SMART basketball and maybe you’ll come out with the W in the end.
barnes drives me effing nuts sometimes… stop chucking all those damn 3’s!
I'm just like you, only ten times better.
I know the game isn't over
But at least Porter can get the Suns to play defense in at least ONE of the four quarters. At least it’s the quarter that matters most.
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
OMG
I thoought Stat fouled.
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
we had a foul to give there, so it was the right thing to do
by ArizonaCactus on Jan 7, 2009 9:28 PM MST up reply actions
Fuck
San Antonio all over again
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
I hope so. When will the Suns start playing with some heart the entire game? I realize they had a lot of time off and would be rusty, but you’ve got to show up before there’s 5 minutes left in the game. It’s like Russian Roulette.
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
Shaq and Amundson get a free pass
Cause they care whether we win or lose.
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
that last offensive play should have gone to barbosa… he was responsible for the last 11 points the suns scored (points + assists)
I'm just like you, only ten times better.
I agree
I figured that since Richardson got the offensive rebound they gave him a shot. He should have waited just .9 of a second before releasing the ball… I just knew this was going to happen.
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
Richardson blows game
Why in the world does he take that shot with 4 seconds left?
April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?
Lopez played only 5 minutes
I’m not going to hang Rich out to dry. his missed shot didn’t matter. Even if Barbosa made a two, we’d have lost on the three. It all comes down to, again, the magic word: DEFENSE. I’m too stunned to be mad, though. The Pacer ALMOST had a hand in his face…almost.
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
I'll give Richardson a break on the shot
Yes, it was bone-headed of him not to wait just a little longer until releasing, but he did get an outstanding offensive rebound to give the Suns that last shot (or so we thought) in the first place. But unluckily for the Suns, Christmas came twice this year…
no, its absolutely true
JRich has certainly helped in many ways. But he hurts in the same way every time. We need to have a day devoted to “closing games.” Understand what kind of plays to run (O or D) in the final seconds of a game. Understand rotations. Understand that if the game is tied and you have the ball with no shot clock, hold for the last shot. This is like Fisher Price, my first basketball set. I thought this kind of shit was taught before reaching the pros.
Yeah
I agree with that. He would have done better to just hold the ball and let the clock expire, and regroup for over time. Indy was wearing thin, and we could have blown them out.
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
agreed.
jrich could have had that shot, it wasn’t a bad idea. he faked the defender, he got around him (for the most part), and put up a decent look.
you can say “he should’ve held it an extra .8 seconds and then shot it”, but honestly, that should’ve/could’ve been the last shot of the game. i don’t blame jrich for anything. he played well.
by Trevor Paxton on Jan 7, 2009 9:53 PM MST up reply actions
LB blew it
on that final defensive play. Porter said in post game plan was to switch everything. LB was lined up and followed the curl guy and JRich switched on him like he should. So LB and JRich followed the same guy leaving no one on Granger.
It was a mental mistake by LB there.
Great clutch shot by Granger though. Man that was clutch. I think he’s for real.
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it's insane.
how good granger has been playing of late. it’s too bad he’s stuck on the pacers. who knows though, maybe they’ll put it together around granger and dunleavy? and with the current amount of suck, maybe they’ll get a more promising big than roy hibbert. who knows. stranger things have happened.
i give all of the guys credit for playing this down to the wire. i just give granger more credit for hitting that incredible three when he had clanked about 2 or 3 right before it in that final 2(ish) minutes.
by Trevor Paxton on Jan 7, 2009 9:51 PM MST up reply actions
Even if he makes the shot, isn’t their still .9 seconds left, and can’t Indy move the ball to half court with a timeout, and can’t they still make the three and win by 1? I’m not being sarcastic. I’m just thinking either Jrich’s shot doesn’t matter at all and we should have played D, or we skip the D (not like we didn’t already do that) and JRich holds the ball and we play overtime.
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
You know you've got problems when
The bright spot of the game was Lou Amundson … 1 for 7 from the line … just sayin’
NOTE that JRich got 10 boards on 7 for 15 shooting. I think he hits that lost shot if he insn’t sober
Mmmmm ... Guinness
yes
there were bright spots. 18-7 on the O glass w/o Shaq. Horrible shooting night and 19 TO’s still score 110. Held Pacers to 18 in 4th but should have been 15.
Should have won the game but those mental mistakes on final plays. Killing us!
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by Seth Pollack on Jan 7, 2009 10:01 PM MST up reply actions
I admire how you always find something good
I think Porter can break this game down and use it to make this team better, if anyone bothers to listen to him. Kind of sad that it’s January and we still take three fourths of the game and .9 seconds off. But now they can get off to another streak, hopefully a ten gamer.
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
Mental Mistakes didn't kill the Suns
Relying on Sweet Lou killed the Suns
1 for 7 from the free throw line! Good God, man, you should go buy JSun’s Jump Shot DVD.
Mmmmm ... Guinness
Sorry, I accidentally hit post..
…but it was “in-between” in that when he faked out the defender (Granger, I think), he didn’t know whether to shoot it off the glass or straight in….and it landed right in-between both, on top of the back-iron.
perhaps another piece of evidence
that we are shaq’s team now?
shaq win w/o nash and amare
nash and amare lose w/o shaq
seems like LB and Nash were really feeling it offensively at the end. shame the whole team (except Lou) kept napping periodically throughout the game. this team needs to GET THEIR HEADS TOGETHER and start playing like we’re hungry, or else we aint goin nowhere.
on the other side of things, the “bottom feeders” of the league have been posting some big wins lately, and even the mightiest have fallen. i just wish we didnt have to—since we can’t afford it with the West being as it is.
perhaps Shaq can start mentoring Lou on free throw shooting? Anything above 30% would be nice.
Just got home
Suns brought thier epic fail game tonight.
That was it.
They didnt deserve to win tonight at all. Even a W tonight would have made me unhappy considering how they played.
PATHETIC!!!!
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
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