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Preview and Game Thread: Suns vs Raptors

Toronto Raptors at Phoenix Suns, Nov 15, 2009 6:00 PM MST



Final - 11.15.2009 1 2 3 4 Total
Toronto Raptors 33 20 26 21 100
Phoenix Suns 31 19 27 24 101

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[Note by Phoenix Stan, 11/15/09 5:18 PM MST ]

Coach Gentry Pre-game Notes

  • Coach had the Cards game on the TV in his office
  • The Raptors are great scoring team - you have to put up a lot of points to beat them
  • Talking about the key to running, Gentry said the 1st three steps are key as is the spacing. The Suns don't track fast break points internally the same way. If they move the ball a couple of times and get an open look that counts as an FB
  • Asked if he was worried about the Raptors front court size, Gentry said they are no Bynum and Odom. He didn't use the "Euro long" phrase that he used in practice yesterday but that's what he meant
  • Gentry said once again that the best defensive team is the one with the most points at the end of the game
  • Most impressive thing about the Suns so far is the resiliency. Gentry was very impressed with the come-back win in Philly at the end of the road trip
  • The togetherness and chemistry is also a plus
  • Channing Frye is still adjusting to taking so many shots
  • Gentry called Jared the "glue guy" and said that when he plays the 4 the Suns are small but can switch things more
  • Asked (by me) about Brandon Jennings 55 point game, Gentry said that he had a good game and that he's a talented guy. He called it interesting

 

 

If you like scoring this game is for you. And if you like scoring by two teams that do it the "right way" with point guards who distribute the ball, big men that are versatile and skilled, wings that can both slash and shoot and role players that scrap and fight then this game is REALLY for you.

Coach Gentry at practice yesterday called the Toronto a "mirror image" of the Suns which their ability to spread the floor, move the ball and also attack the rim. The difference between the two teams and the advantage statistically for the Suns is on the defensive end.

The Raptors (113.7) and Suns (110.8) are #1 and #3 in the league in offensive efficiency.

Whereas Toronto is playing like a team still getting used to the accelerator the Suns are focused on the lessons learned over the years of fast paced driving. In Phoenix, the high-efficiency offense is a given which is a luxury the Raptors haven't yet earned and this allows Gentry's team to spend more emphasis on defense and rebounding.

The Suns still have work to do but at 107 points per 100 possessions are far ahead of the NBA's worst 112 defensive efficiency rating of the Raptors.

For a more in-depth look at the Raptors season so far let's check in with Adam from SBN sister site Raptors HQ:

 

So currently the Raptors sit a game above .500 at 5 and 4.  To some, this might look like an underperforming record, especially based on losses to Memphis and San Antonio that should in all probability have been W's.
 
However taking into account a new coaching group and system, nine new players, injuries to key players in pre-season, and an extremely tough schedule to kick off the year, I'd have to say that all things considered, 5-4 looks pretty good.  I actually picked the team to start at 5 and 13 so they're way ahead of schedule.
 
Part of the reason they're ahead of my prediction is their offense.  Chris Bosh is putting up MVP-esque numbers after a summer of dedicating himself to becoming more of a low-post presence, and the additions of players like Hedo Turkoglu, and Marco Belinelli off the bench, has given this team's offense a serious shot in the arm.  Add on some improved play from Andrea Bargnani and when this team's offense is on, they are just deadly because they can hurt an opponent in so many ways; from using the 3 ball to stretch out a defense, to feeding Bosh for isolations on the blocks.
 
However there's a flip side to this coin.
 
While the offense has taken a step forward, the defense has taken at least two back.  This in itself is incredible considering how poor the Raptors were defensively the past two seasons but it's true, outside of the past two games, Toronto was giving up an obscene amount of points to opponents.  Even in the past two wins, where the Dinos managed to keep the Bulls and Clips under 100 points, Toronto got themselves into huge holes early thanks to exactly 0 defensive intensity.  It's this flip-side that has done them in in winnable games at times and has prevented comebacks in others.
 
So as it stands, offensively the Raptors have a chance to be one of the best in the league, however until they at least play some modicum of defense, I think this is going to be at best a .500 team; beating a Cleveland one night thanks to hot shooting, losing to a Minny the next, unable to get stops.

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I hope Amundson destroys them like he did last time

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Nov 15, 2009 11:17 AM MST reply actions  

They have Amir Johnson now

who is bigger than Lou…that’s going to be a tough match up for us

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by Seth Pollack on Nov 15, 2009 11:33 AM MST up reply actions  

should be a fun game to watch

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by PHXgp on Nov 15, 2009 11:50 AM MST reply actions  

I think it's a pretty good matchup for us too.

We play our style better than they do. Their best player is Bosh, who is versatile, not a majority back-to-the-basket post player, which bodes well for our bigs defensively. Or at least, is more favorable than a traditional big like Howard or Bynum.

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by PHXgp on Nov 15, 2009 11:58 AM MST reply actions  

Time for another win streak to begin

I’m quite comfortable knowing that the only losses we have right now came from the two teams that were in last year’s finals. To me, thats a measuring stick.

Last year, all I heard from the team was “we’re just waiting for April.” But when April came around, guess what, not enough wins to do anything. Ya should’ve been focused all season long. Now we’re playing each game…and winning them. I have no doubt that we’ll be a top 5 seed, and will have the Pac Div Title back.

by KnowGood on Nov 15, 2009 12:08 PM MST reply actions  

Position battles, according to me.

Steve Nash vs. Jose Calderon

Nash is the better player, by a long shot, but that’s not to go on and say that Calderon can’t play. The dude is a creative passer, a fantastic free throw shooter, and plays with confidence. Remind you of someone? Probably the guy he’s playing against. Calderon is younger, but has been slowed by injuries a bit, but I still see Nash coming out on top in this one.

Jason Richardson vs. DeMar "Air (or is is “Heir”?) Canada" DeRozan

Jason Richardson vs. one of the most intriguing prospects coming into the NBA of last year’s draft. DeRozan has all the physical tools. He’s explosive, he’s physical, he can shoot or drive, and he’s one of the best physical specimens to come out of the draft in awhile. But here’s the thing…Jason Richardson is like DeMar DeRozan v.5. He’s been in the league, established himself as an amazing dunker, a solid three point shooter (and scorer), and a solid rebounder. With Jason’s added emphasis on defense, we’ll see if he can shut down the young gun early and throw him out of his game. I look to see Richardson winning this position battle.

Grant Hill vs. Hedo Turkoglu

Turkoglu is coming off of a monster year in Orlando, where he, Dwight Howard, and Rashard Lewis led their team to the NBA finals, beating out the league-wide favorite, the Cleveland LeBron’s Cavaliers. He decided to take the money and run off to Canada, where he could embrace his inner Euro. Here’s my take on Turkoglu: he needs the ball in his hands to be effective. He dominates the ball at times, which leads to (semi) gaudy stats. I don’t doubt his talent level, but put him on a team where someone like Nash, Tony Parker, or Chris Paul are running the point, and you take away some of his “multi faceted” game. Grant Hill, on the other hand, is on the latter end of his career, but still turning in very respectable numbers. Along with being touted as the best defender on the team, he is also the leading rebounder through the first 10 games this season. Look for Grant Hill’s offense to take a bit of a dip in this one, as I’m sure he’ll be doing just about all he can to stop him on the defensive end. This could very well end up with Turkoglu taking the advantage on this one, but if Hill makes him work hard for his numbers, I’m satisfied.

Amare Stoudemire vs. Chris Bosh

Wow. Two players that have been battling back and forth throughout the league for awhile. In the Summer of LeBron, these two players will also be hitting the free agency deck. They both have the option with resigning with their respective teams (obviously), but neither have been tacked as the kind of guy who will stay with their team. Amare is a beast on the offensive end. There isn’t a better PF in the game (minus maybe TIm Duncan…damn his efficiency) on offense. Amare has picked up his defensive intensity so far this season, but the jury is still out on him. Bosh, on the other hand, is both a legitimate scoring threat (as he can hit from range…part of that “Euro long” team Gentry was talking about), and he’s a more-than-solid rebounder. I’m looking for a definite battle from these two, and we can only hope “Sun Tzu” does his part in trying to shut down CB4.

Channing Frye vs. Andrea Bargnani

Should be an interesting matchup. Both can hit the three ball. Both are pretty young in the league. Both have improved significantly over the past year (or ten games, in Channing’s case). Bargnani was largely labeled as a bust after being the number 1 overall selection in the 2006 draft. Yet, after sliding him over to the center position, his game exploded (heck, I even drafted him pretty early in my fantasy league). He finally became a legitimate player, and a player worthy of selecting number one overall. Frye, on the other hand, is enjoying the freedom of playing in a wide open system here in Phoenix. His game has been elevated, as the confidence of the team is soaring. He’s become a legitimate three point threat. His defense is more than adequate for this Suns squad. And on top of that, he’s one of the fan favorites (along with JYD and Sweet Lou). I look for Bargnani to have the slight edge on this one, but if Frye can keep him camping out on the perimeter and away from the boards, I’ll sacrifice one fantasy category for the Suns to have the edge in coming away with the “W”.

Look for a hungry Suns team to come out and dominate the opposition after the drubbing in LA. But look for a vengeful Raptors squad to come out and try and reestablish themselves as a playoff caliber team after missing out last year.

Nothing in this league is a certain, but we can all be sure that this should be a good game.

by iamtrevorpaxton on Nov 15, 2009 12:24 PM MST reply actions  

correct me if I am wrong

but amare has player option of 17mio (?) for next year, right? so why is everybody so sure he will opt out? a lot of money will be spent suring summer of 2010 and amare doesn’t look to get maximum I am pretty sure… also, if we have decent season, make a playoff run, that will be a good base to stay and pick up guaranteed money and then in 2011 to look for maximum (here or elsewhere)…

by zeze_999 on Nov 15, 2009 2:15 PM MST reply actions  

I totally agree

in fact I said this in response to a question from Raptors HQ:

2) RHQ: Everyone’s talking about Nash being back to his old self but let’s talk about Amare. Do you think he sticks around Phoenix next year and if so, is it for max dollars?

BSOS: This is the single biggest decision facing the Suns organization. Much like Chris Bosh’s situation, Amare is holding the cards here. He’s made a few things clear in his many interviews on the topic. a) He likes it here and feels the Phoenix fans support him b) He wants to be somewhere competitive which is one reason he wasn’t keen on being traded to the Warriors in that draft day deal for Biedrens, Curry and friends that fell through. c) He wants to get max money.

For the Suns it’s just too soon to say what they will do. I don’t think that right now they feel Amare is a max player and likely are skeptical about hitching the wagon to him for the next 5 or 6 years. But at the same time they aren’t likely to get a star back in any trade scenario and this isn’t a franchise or fan base that has the patience for a long rebuilding project. With Nash signed for a couple of years it really is a pickle. I would think best case is they extend Amare for only a couple of years so that his contract matches Nash’s remaining term but that’s not going to happen.

My best guess right now is that the Suns won’t make a trade at the deadline and that Amare will end up not opting out and we will be right back talking about this again next season when he is in the final year of his contract. Anyone that tells you they KNOW what is going to happen though is on crack.

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by Seth Pollack on Nov 15, 2009 2:45 PM MST up reply actions  

kind of cool...i live in dallas but work for a company in Phoenix...

I’m actually here in Phoenix so I’ll be able to watch the game…maybe at majerle’s

My brother lives here in Chandler, Az but works in CA…he was at his first Laker game the night they played the suns…he went because he’s a suns fan…He said the seats on courtside cost roughly $10,000 a game…and that Jack Nicholson was given free lifetime tickets…as long as he agrees to be shown on the jumbo tron each home game…tough that the one game Alex goes to was the one poor game the Suns have played…if Amare had just shot normally it at least would’ve been respectable…

by be-the-ball on Nov 15, 2009 3:40 PM MST reply actions  

Can't wait!

Should be a very good game. Whoever plays defense first wins!

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Nov 15, 2009 4:47 PM MST reply actions  

Keys to the Game

Tonight is going to be a high-scoring battle between two teams that put an emphasis on filling the basket. In order for Phoenix to come out on top, here are my keys to the game:

1. Apply ball pressure and lock down the lane.

Toronto has a very tall lineup, with three starters 6’10" and taller (Bosh, Turkoglu, and Bargnani). DeMar DeRozan is 6’7" and freakishly athletic. The Suns must place an emphasis on crashing the boards and limiting offensive opportunities near the basket.

It doesn’t seem fair that Andrea Bargnani is also shooting 46.7% from beyond the arc, but from a historical perspective, the long ball is a much lower percentage shot. This is where ball pressure comes into play. The bench role players, including Louis Amundson and Jared Dudley, must come out and play high energy basketball.

2. Fast break fever.

As Alvin Gentry would say, the team that scores the most points played the best defense.

The Suns and the Raptors are both fast, athletic squads that can run the floor. This is why controlling the lane and gobbling up rebounds will be so important for Phoenix.

3. Control Jose Calderon.

Jose Calderon drops 7 assists and scores 13 points a game. He can hit the three, although this season has been an aberration (he is only shooting 28%). Steve Nash must increase his tenacity and ensure that Calderon is contained.

Hopefully Leandro Barbosa will be able to come in and play some quality defense.

by Cory Williams on Nov 15, 2009 5:32 PM MST reply actions  

Everybody Welcome Cory

He’s with me at the game tonight learning checking things out so he can cover for me if I can’t make it to a home game…and don’t worry – our own guys will as well but it’s always good to develop our bench depth

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by Seth Pollack on Nov 15, 2009 5:51 PM MST up reply actions  

So far

it looks like a really small crowd for this game…

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by Seth Pollack on Nov 15, 2009 6:00 PM MST reply actions  

The only Candadian

player in this game is on the Suns and yet they do the Canadian National Anthem b/c the Raptors are here…the irony abounds

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by Seth Pollack on Nov 15, 2009 6:08 PM MST reply actions  

Real quick one that is slightly off topic...

…we sa a few days ago, first hand how playing for New Orleans is affecting CP3, now, I cold get up multiple trades on espn trade machine but I’m more interested in where people are morally with the following:

Essentially, it would be a trade of Steve Nash for CP3.

Would you do it?

by keify34 on Nov 15, 2009 6:10 PM MST reply actions  

Because CP3 wants out? He’s dissatisifed with their current status/standing.

by keify34 on Nov 15, 2009 6:13 PM MST up reply actions  

that may be true

but to trade a young superstar for an aging superstar is a difficult sell.

As much as it would be a good investment for future Suns teams, the Hornets would be much better served making a play for someone like Rajon Rondo, in my humble opinion. May not work in the trade machine, though.

by Cory Williams on Nov 15, 2009 6:21 PM MST up reply actions  

Like I said, I’m more interested in the moral aspect…would we trade away our saviour in order to secure a long term point guard?

by keify34 on Nov 15, 2009 6:26 PM MST up reply actions  

very interesting indeed

I wonder what the fan reaction would be.

I do, however, know that APS would need to film some new commercials.

by Cory Williams on Nov 15, 2009 6:41 PM MST up reply actions  

i really wanna see the game

i hate not being able to find it anywhere!

Until spring training starts - let's go Cardinals and Suns!

by b0rd3rline on Nov 15, 2009 6:13 PM MST reply actions  

Twice now

the Raptors have switch a big onto Nash on the pick and roll…that’s going to make for a lot of points for us

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by Seth Pollack on Nov 15, 2009 6:13 PM MST reply actions  

make that 3 times

This one Nash found Amare down low w/ Calderon on him. Bargnani came to help. Amare swings it to Frye for an open 3…

The Raptors can’t be that bad defensively to do that all night….

oops they just did it again

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by Seth Pollack on Nov 15, 2009 6:15 PM MST up reply actions  

Toronto aren’t getting it defensively with the pick and rolls, are they?

They keep swithcing Calderon onto the big guys they’re gonna get hurt.

by keify34 on Nov 15, 2009 6:16 PM MST reply actions  

Phoenix D

A lot of wide open threes for the Raptors thus far. Can we please focus on ball pressure?

by Cory Williams on Nov 15, 2009 6:19 PM MST reply actions  

Helluva quick game to start off with.

A couple of things I like early on – our defensive rotations are quick early on, the easy pick and roll outcome with Calderon switching onto our bigs, J-Rich hitting his first shot and it looking like butter, STEVE MOTHERF*CKING NASH.

by keify34 on Nov 15, 2009 6:22 PM MST reply actions  

Bosh w/ braces on both knees

does not look very mobile…I mean his foot work is great but he seems to not be too interested in running the floor….shuffling the floor maybe but not running

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by Seth Pollack on Nov 15, 2009 6:26 PM MST reply actions  

Anybody else think Bosh is doing what he did last season – starting off at Allstar pace but gradually dropping off as the season goes on.

Well, he’s got the good start but I’m not gonna get carried away with him yet…

by keify34 on Nov 15, 2009 6:28 PM MST up reply actions  

Nash is feeling it tonight!

by thebraziliansir on Nov 15, 2009 6:26 PM MST reply actions  

What ever the oppositie of intense

that describes this game…

Both teams are getting wide open looks and hitting them but there’s no fire anywhere in this building

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by Seth Pollack on Nov 15, 2009 6:28 PM MST reply actions  

it is games like these

where I always thought they should randomly move fans down from the upper deck and create a raucous environment. Maybe a once-a-year occurrence to make the game more interesting.

by Cory Williams on Nov 15, 2009 6:36 PM MST up reply actions  

raptors

arent THAT good of an offensive team. Right?

by silverddue on Nov 15, 2009 6:34 PM MST reply actions  

They're #1 in ORTNG

Ahead of us! So make of that what you will.

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Nov 15, 2009 6:35 PM MST up reply actions  

I think they’re one of the best of the league adjusting for pace.

by thebraziliansir on Nov 15, 2009 6:35 PM MST up reply actions  

Frenetic Pace

Fun!

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Nov 15, 2009 6:36 PM MST reply actions  

chill

lot’s of game left

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by PanamaSun on Nov 15, 2009 6:39 PM MST up reply actions  

Il Mago looks much improved

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Nov 15, 2009 6:37 PM MST reply actions  

ugly

bench is not producing at all. Dragic looks to be a bit confused.

by Cory Williams on Nov 15, 2009 6:39 PM MST reply actions  

Oh snap

I’ma have to disagree with you there Stan. I think Jennings has All-NBA potential. Where do you see their respective ceilings?

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Nov 15, 2009 6:41 PM MST up reply actions  

Suck up

Dudley just dove for that ball right at the feet of Robert Sarver…

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by Seth Pollack on Nov 15, 2009 6:43 PM MST reply actions  

Daaaayum

Belinelli

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Nov 15, 2009 6:44 PM MST reply actions  

I never get tired of reading that

it just cracks me up. He can be the mascot and their star player at the same time.

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Nov 15, 2009 6:51 PM MST up reply actions  

ha

I do wonder though why more isn’t said about his knees…both are wrapped and it looked like one just gave out and he collapsed…he got back up but man he doesn’t look good

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by Seth Pollack on Nov 15, 2009 6:52 PM MST up reply actions  

Nash a scorer

not good…they are just standing around!

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Nov 15, 2009 6:52 PM MST reply actions  

Suns are totally flat

I am betting the term “no energy” will be used at some point post game to describe the start

Suns coming back w/ small lines up w/ Nash, JRich, LB, Hill and Frye

They were fronting he post and bringing weak side help on the catch. Worked for a little while

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by Seth Pollack on Nov 15, 2009 6:53 PM MST reply actions  

bellinelli is legit.

you’d think, that with his smooth 3 point stroke, he’d have gotten more minutes in golden state.

i seriously think the warriors need to get rid of nellie. it’s always good to have someone in your conference be completely laughable, but seriously, they’re just painful to watch at this point.

by iamtrevorpaxton on Nov 15, 2009 6:59 PM MST reply actions  

Hill has got to stop shooting. Doesn't have it tonight.

I’ve never believed that you have to “shoot your way out of it” when you’re sucking.

Unless you’re Dwayne Wade or Dirk Nowitski then pass the ball….

by Jack Frost on Nov 15, 2009 7:03 PM MST reply actions  

Nash can’t find anyone the past 4 minutes. They’re forcing him to shoot.

by troglodytes on Nov 15, 2009 7:05 PM MST reply actions  

Yup

and we know what happens most of the times when he’s forced to score

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Nov 15, 2009 7:07 PM MST up reply actions  

Defense looks so weak

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Nov 15, 2009 7:28 PM MST reply actions  

game speed

The lack of energy present in this game is plaguing this matchup, and the speed and enthusiasm that we expected from these two teams is not present.

One likely scenario for this lack of energy: too much, too soon. These teams ran at each other hard in the first quarter, and the back and forth play may have brought these teams to the realization that they could not keep up such a pace.

by Cory Williams on Nov 15, 2009 7:28 PM MST reply actions  

I doubt that

Suns want to always run…they think they are in better shape than any other team in the L

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by Seth Pollack on Nov 15, 2009 7:33 PM MST up reply actions  

amare looks disinterested.

i think it’s just the overall feel of the game.

good effort on that board, though.

Bright Side of the Sun, where Suns basketball never looked so good.

by iamtrevorpaxton on Nov 15, 2009 7:30 PM MST reply actions  

Yeah, not the way to follow up a 2-15 shooting game,
He should be firing to make up for that one.
Contract year STAT, C’MON! EARN IT!

by Chucko on Nov 15, 2009 7:31 PM MST up reply actions  

starting to feel uneasy

they pull closer but can never tie or take the lead.

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Nov 15, 2009 7:32 PM MST reply actions  

+1

Bright Side of the Sun, where Suns basketball never looked so good.

by iamtrevorpaxton on Nov 15, 2009 7:33 PM MST up reply actions  

Thunder just blew their game against the Clips.

by Chucko on Nov 15, 2009 7:33 PM MST reply actions  

just checked in

bad that we’re trailing at this point? D:

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by PHXgp on Nov 15, 2009 7:39 PM MST reply actions  

Starting to pick it up

I think the Suns will have the lead by the end of the qtr

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by Seth Pollack on Nov 15, 2009 7:39 PM MST reply actions  

I know Barbs is hurt and stuff

But I feel Gentry should use hi a little bit more… I might be wrong though..

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by PanamaSun on Nov 15, 2009 7:41 PM MST reply actions  

Yup

that’s why he needs more playing time.

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Nov 15, 2009 7:48 PM MST up reply actions  

Dudley

energy saves the possession once again

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by PHXgp on Nov 15, 2009 7:43 PM MST reply actions  

how many 3s can we miss?

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by PHXgp on Nov 15, 2009 7:44 PM MST reply actions  

4 different 3-point shooters missed in a row

by troglodytes on Nov 15, 2009 7:44 PM MST reply actions  

again, close but we can't tie or take the lead!

frustrating!

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by PanamaSun on Nov 15, 2009 7:45 PM MST reply actions  

it was a bad off balance shot.

wouldnt be surprised if we found our stroke in the 4th

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by PHXgp on Nov 15, 2009 7:48 PM MST up reply actions  

2 down opening the 4th

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by PHXgp on Nov 15, 2009 7:48 PM MST reply actions  

Down two going into the 4th, in a game like this, not worried.

Well, I’m worried, but because of my own state of mind :P not theirs.

Fanaticism is not logical

by SunDolphin on Nov 15, 2009 7:48 PM MST reply actions  

well, we SHOULD be able to win a quarter against toronto

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by PHXgp on Nov 15, 2009 7:49 PM MST up reply actions  

exactly.

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by iamtrevorpaxton on Nov 15, 2009 7:50 PM MST up reply actions  

bad start.

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by iamtrevorpaxton on Nov 15, 2009 7:50 PM MST reply actions  

and....turnover.

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by PHXgp on Nov 15, 2009 7:50 PM MST reply actions  

get bargnani into foul trouble!

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by PHXgp on Nov 15, 2009 7:51 PM MST reply actions  

just did!

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by iamtrevorpaxton on Nov 15, 2009 7:53 PM MST up reply actions  

5 fouls now

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by PHXgp on Nov 15, 2009 7:53 PM MST up reply actions  

GET NASH BACK INTO THIS GAME.

STAT.

i don’t care if he’s tired.

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by iamtrevorpaxton on Nov 15, 2009 7:52 PM MST reply actions  

and 1 Stat

woohoo

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by PHXgp on Nov 15, 2009 7:55 PM MST reply actions  

I here it!

Fanaticism is not logical

by SunDolphin on Nov 15, 2009 7:55 PM MST up reply actions  

Well, hear anyway

That’s what I love about listening to the game, instead of watching it. The radio mics really pick that crowd noise up.

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by SunDolphin on Nov 15, 2009 7:56 PM MST up reply actions  

you listening on the internet or over the actual radio

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by PHXgp on Nov 15, 2009 7:57 PM MST up reply actions  

net

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by SunDolphin on Nov 15, 2009 7:59 PM MST up reply actions  

can you link me to the site?

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by PHXgp on Nov 15, 2009 7:59 PM MST up reply actions  

You might have to sign up

http://www.nba.com/allaccess/watchListen.html

I rarely have a problem with the feed and it’s free for audio.

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by SunDolphin on Nov 15, 2009 8:02 PM MST up reply actions  

oh yeah im thinking of buying it....thanks.

just have to find 100 bucks to spare :P

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by PHXgp on Nov 15, 2009 8:03 PM MST up reply actions  

oh sweet, it is? Hmm awesome

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by PHXgp on Nov 15, 2009 8:05 PM MST up reply actions  

At least the audio's free though

Sucks that they block the stream on the ktar website and make you go to nba.com though

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Nov 15, 2009 8:05 PM MST up reply actions  

They do that in all sports.

I had to pay to listen to the Braves and Dolphins. I enjoy the announcers better, and in the end don’t feel I lose anything if I don’t watch. Al McCoy and Don Sutton? ESPN couldn’t find anyone better than them unless they went to a cemetery.

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by SunDolphin on Nov 15, 2009 8:07 PM MST up reply actions  

"theyre actually chanting defense in phoenix"

hell yeah!

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by PHXgp on Nov 15, 2009 7:55 PM MST reply actions  

That air ball hurts.

by troglodytes on Nov 15, 2009 7:56 PM MST reply actions  

10-15 tonight

2-15 the other night.

Would have definitely made that Lakers game something different.

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by SunDolphin on Nov 15, 2009 8:06 PM MST up reply actions  

Missed a ton of open shots

tonight…Sundays aren’t good to the Suns…Wonder what their record is on Sundays.

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by Seth Pollack on Nov 15, 2009 7:58 PM MST reply actions  

needed that one.

i love that man.

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by iamtrevorpaxton on Nov 15, 2009 8:00 PM MST reply actions  

3 NASH

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by PHXgp on Nov 15, 2009 8:00 PM MST reply actions  

+1

getting bargnani into foul trouble was huge.

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by iamtrevorpaxton on Nov 15, 2009 8:03 PM MST up reply actions  

Bosh takes

Even with zero knees, Bosh still can fill it up. PHX not out of the woods yet…

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by Cory Williams on Nov 15, 2009 8:10 PM MST reply actions  

Got to give Suns credit

shots not falling and yet they are keeping it close w/ the defense…Raptors now down to 43% shooting

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by Seth Pollack on Nov 15, 2009 8:11 PM MST reply actions  

along those lines

note Jared Dudley staying in the game to close instead of Hill…

Dudley played the 4 a lot in the fourth qtr and did a decent job fronting Bosh

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by Seth Pollack on Nov 15, 2009 8:12 PM MST up reply actions  

amare is having trouble hanging onto the ball tonight.

at least it seems like it to me.

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by iamtrevorpaxton on Nov 15, 2009 8:11 PM MST reply actions  

clutch frye

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by PHXgp on Nov 15, 2009 8:14 PM MST reply actions  

The crowd LOVED THAT!!

Frye’s three!

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by SunDolphin on Nov 15, 2009 8:14 PM MST reply actions  

i knew it would happen.

damn turkoglu.

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by iamtrevorpaxton on Nov 15, 2009 8:16 PM MST reply actions  

Wow

That’s why he makes the big bucks, I guess.

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by Cory Williams on Nov 15, 2009 8:18 PM MST reply actions  

Nash!

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by PHXgp on Nov 15, 2009 8:18 PM MST reply actions  

now D up!

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by iamtrevorpaxton on Nov 15, 2009 8:20 PM MST reply actions  

I dont like this….

by silverddue on Nov 15, 2009 8:21 PM MST reply actions  

i'm officially freaking out.

12.5 seconds, raptors ball, suns only up by 1.

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by iamtrevorpaxton on Nov 15, 2009 8:21 PM MST reply actions  

jesus

somebody guard Hedo.

by Chucko on Nov 15, 2009 8:22 PM MST up reply actions  

Anyone with an update?

I don’t have a feed that works.

by Chucko on Nov 15, 2009 8:21 PM MST reply actions  

update:

101 – 100, suns leading.

raptors have the ball. 12.5 seconds left.

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by iamtrevorpaxton on Nov 15, 2009 8:22 PM MST reply actions  

this is ours...

just need a solid D… im having flashbacks of last years painful losses.

by Larfleeze on Nov 15, 2009 8:22 PM MST reply actions  

ahhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!

nash with the winning BOARD!

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by SunDolphin on Nov 15, 2009 8:23 PM MST reply actions  

SUNS WIN

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by PHXgp on Nov 15, 2009 8:23 PM MST reply actions  

?

what happened did we play defense?

by phxuk: Ap on Nov 15, 2009 8:24 PM MST reply actions  

the last possession (for chucko).

raptors inbounded to turkoglu.

suns tried to foul him, but didn’t get the call (they had a foul to give). he pulls up for a two point jumper, and it rims out.

wow.

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by iamtrevorpaxton on Nov 15, 2009 8:24 PM MST reply actions  

That was a difficult game, we weren’t very fluid, but won anyway. Great stuff !!

by troglodytes on Nov 15, 2009 8:25 PM MST reply actions  

That was a difficult game, we weren’t very fluid, but won anyway. Great stuff !!

by troglodytes on Nov 15, 2009 8:25 PM MST reply actions  

Goodnight, guys, awesome game!

They find a way.

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by SunDolphin on Nov 15, 2009 8:26 PM MST reply actions  

That's a good team over there

but I agree

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Nov 15, 2009 8:28 PM MST up reply actions  

No words!

I feel lucky we won but a W is a W ! Nash three point play was awesome!

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Nov 15, 2009 8:28 PM MST reply actions  

We played terribly, but a win's a win. 9-2!

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Nov 15, 2009 8:46 PM MST reply actions  

No doubt!

Are the Rockets going to give us another present as well?

by underxthebridge on Nov 15, 2009 9:36 PM MST up reply actions  

doubtful.

they just knocked off the lakers.

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by iamtrevorpaxton on Nov 15, 2009 10:12 PM MST up reply actions  

That’s what I was talking about, makes today even sweeter. I’ll worry about playing them on Tuesday!

by underxthebridge on Nov 15, 2009 10:14 PM MST up reply actions  

Cory has the recap

so look for that soon….

Gentry was really pleased with the win and the way the D picked up. He did say the Suns struggled w/ the switching and got stagnant but he’s not worried about it and hopes teams keep switching bigs on to Nash.

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by Seth Pollack on Nov 15, 2009 9:06 PM MST reply actions  

Sorry I wasn't here tonight

At a friend’s house watching football and had the game going on my laptop so I couldn’t comment. Didn’t look like a good game though. Basically traded buckets the entire time and got lucky on a wide open miss by Turkoglu. That guy was nails all night. That was a sloppy game. Amare and Bosh basically had their way with each other from what I saw. Weird watching the game with no sound. But a W’s a W. I’d love to call it a “gritty” win, but it was more like an ugly one. Hopefully they’re a little sharper next time out!

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