Game Thread: Suns vs Hornets
by Seth Pollack on Nov 19, 2009 5:00 PM MST
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Predicted Player of the Game
Miss you, CP3! but with you on the bench resting your f-k'd up ankle we are going to see a lot of Darren Collison and Bobby Brown..
Your loss. Our gain.
While Collison is speedy and athletic and Bobby Brown has a cool name I don't see this combo having any impact on Nash's ability to get all Nashty on National TV.
Coming off a 2 for 10 game in Houston I don't think I am going out on a thin limb by calling Steve Nash the PPOG.
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ok?
i thought they start at 1am my time i guess they take 20 mins for warm up and presentation things
on an airplane
Headed home. Thx Wil for the preview and recap.
Have fun and don’t make me land and find out we blew this one.
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by Seth Pollack on Nov 19, 2009 6:23 PM MST via mobile reply actions
This game is already a failure.
I don’t care if the Suns win. No way this Hornets team should be up 9 on Phoenix. Ever. The Suns can’t keep waiting for Jared Dudley to take the floor before showing some spark. Starter FAIL.
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Sloppy start
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by RogersPark Kris on Nov 19, 2009 6:25 PM MST reply actions
holy crap
is anybody on the Suns wanting to play basketball tonight? what an ugly start!
Until spring training starts - let's go Cardinals and Suns!
I'm breathing
I said it was a crappy start, not that the game was over. I’ve been seeing this team play in the 4th quarter this year, I know this team doesn’t give up..
Until spring training starts - let's go Cardinals and Suns!
One team wants it
Looks like the Hornets want this game. Seems like they have something to prove. Suns on the other hand…not so much. Killed on the boards, giving Peja open looks, gotta get it under control.
I think it's way too early to say that, especially after our many 1st quarter letdowns.
Fanaticism is not logical
Seriously, don't care if the Suns end up winning by 78 points
This start is abominable. Hope coach has them running suicides tomorrow.
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Don't care.
If they’re not going to hit shots, they can at least prevent them.
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Yeah,
God forbid Mr. 6-9 from three point range every night dares have an off quarter.
Fanaticism is not logical
Hornets, without Paul and a new coach are coming out the aggressor
Must be the Jeffrey Bower effect.
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by RogersPark Kris on Nov 19, 2009 6:30 PM MST reply actions
what the what!??!
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by Seth Pollack on Nov 19, 2009 6:33 PM MST via mobile reply actions
is it wrong
that i want to sit the starters at the ten minute mark in the first quarter?
by Gorilla Game on Nov 19, 2009 6:34 PM MST via mobile reply actions
No, the should be sat, and for the next game should lose their starting spots to the bench
Just to show a message, unless they’re not man enough to take that “severe” a punishment for playing like second string bananas.
Fanaticism is not logical
is it wrong
The I love Reggie Miller the commentator?
Communism is killing me..........Let Freedom Ring! How I miss you oh sweet love....AMERICA!
That*
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by The Rising Sun on Nov 19, 2009 6:36 PM MST up reply actions
Weak foul by Amar'e
I was totally about to post something about how awesome I thought he was going to play. Wait till they show the replay. He clearly shoves Thornton to the ground with his forearm.
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Which is definitely better than a first half team
But teams that win championships are teams that play FOUR quarters.
Fanaticism is not logical
by SunDolphin on Nov 19, 2009 6:40 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Not saying we should or even can win a title
but that if we don’t, that’s one of the reasons.
Fanaticism is not logical
like a classic car
takes a while to warm up.
by Gorilla Game on Nov 19, 2009 6:41 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Nash is heating up
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by RogersPark Kris on Nov 19, 2009 6:40 PM MST reply actions
LB WTF?
He misses the lay-up from inches away but nails a weird-ass floater off the glass. Say what?
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Look, down 4 at the end of the quarter. What slow start?
Maybe it was less the Suns sucking and more the Hornets being jacked up?
Fanaticism is not logical
like with a super solider formula?
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by The Rising Sun on Nov 19, 2009 6:44 PM MST up reply actions
lol
It’s like these teams get ready to play the Suns and remember how we used to be, and get fired up to play a bad defensive team, then when their fire cools and they realize that, no, these Suns are different, the spaceship has already cruised by at near light speed and it’s the fourth quarter the Suns win again.
Fanaticism is not logical
Ugh.
I don’t doubt the Suns are going to win this game, and perhaps even by a wide margin, but these 1st quarter collapses have to stop.
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No doubt. Gotta come out with some intensity for once. But hey, if they get that going later on in the season I’ll take it! Better than if they played like that early on in the year but lost it later on.
by underxthebridge on Nov 19, 2009 6:46 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Fun Stat of Fail
NOLA missed 16 shots in the first quarter… but corralled 9 of them for rebounds!
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we should get Whitney in the game
to distract Bobby
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that was part of my pregame joke. i thought he looked like BOBBY BROWN
by Wil Cantrell on Nov 19, 2009 6:51 PM MST up reply actions
I wonder what is his
Prerogative lol sorry I had to
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by The Rising Sun on Nov 19, 2009 6:52 PM MST up reply actions
That was the coolest steal ever by LB then he misses an almost wide open layup.
Fanaticism is not logical
Someone might want to account for Lil' Buckets
Marcus Thornton is en fuego.
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I've never understood that!
I could never chew gum and be athletic at the same time.
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Well its 10 am here so vodka....
nope, just milk for me right now
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hahahaha
Yeah I’m surprise the Chinese Government is still letting me access this website with the signature I have, they have cracked down on everything good.
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by The Rising Sun on Nov 19, 2009 6:57 PM MST up reply actions
Nice! BSOTS makes it to China. If we get into a political discussion, will they block this site?
by Wil Cantrell on Nov 19, 2009 6:56 PM MST up reply actions
Chariman Mao sucked
That’ll get the site banned pretty quickly… :)
by Chucko on Nov 19, 2009 6:57 PM MST up reply actions
hahahahahhaa shhhhhhhhhhh
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by The Rising Sun on Nov 19, 2009 6:58 PM MST up reply actions
Just maybe.... or anything they don't agree with
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by The Rising Sun on Nov 19, 2009 6:57 PM MST up reply actions
Suns are letting the Hornets dictate the pace
"Tyrus run, RUN!" - Vinny D
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by RogersPark Kris on Nov 19, 2009 6:58 PM MST reply actions
Prediction: Gentry rights the ship at the half. Suns come out gunnin in the second. 122-115 Suns.
by Wil Cantrell on Nov 19, 2009 7:01 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah, NBA order looks to be restored
You just knew there was no way the hornets can keep up the scoring pace
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by RogersPark Kris on Nov 19, 2009 7:00 PM MST reply actions
I forgot Darius Songaila is on the Hornets now
He was having a great game against the Cavaliers last season here in DC. My friend and I got our general area of the crowd to chant “MVP! MVP!” during his free throws at the end of the game. :)
Anyone notice the "Lead Indicator" light in TNT's score at the bottom?
In case you weren’t sure which number was bigger.
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by Mike Lisboa on Nov 19, 2009 7:01 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
Knicks are making a good move by signing AI
If Allen has anything left in the tank they can easily trade him later to a contending team.
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by RogersPark Kris on Nov 19, 2009 7:05 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, they have nothing to lose.
Sign him to a one year deal and at the very least you have an entertaining guy to show your fans for your horrible team. :-P
Exaclty.
Nothing to lose., they’ve mailed in the season anyway.
by Chucko on Nov 19, 2009 7:08 PM MST up reply actions
I would like to see NY not suck just because Utah owns their first pick next year
by southern oregon on Nov 19, 2009 7:09 PM MST up reply actions
Man, I forgot they did that...
And the shrinking salary cap hurts their chances to sign free agents. There could be some more tough times on the horizon for NY.
any of you guys think about dantoni and think, "i could go some preingles about now..."
by Chucko on Nov 19, 2009 7:09 PM MST up reply actions
No. Glad when he left.
I have little respect for a coach that is not willing to learn and adapt. The guy is way too set in his ways and we’re better off without him.
Fanaticism is not logical
Well.....
It really shouldnt be this close, but at least they are getting back in the game now.
Man that first half of the 1st quarter was silly sloppy
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
they are spanking us on the boards.
that’s why they’re still in it.
by Chucko on Nov 19, 2009 7:11 PM MST up reply actions
methinks that changes in the second half
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
Bulls Fan Here
What’s up with amare, he seems like he doesn’t really want to be out there. Looks like he’s just going through the motions. 1 rebound i think?
yeah, he is clearly not 100% back.
It’s a contract year, he should be nukin’.
by Chucko on Nov 19, 2009 7:12 PM MST up reply actions
Why even guard Brown at the 3 point line
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by RogersPark Kris on Nov 19, 2009 7:13 PM MST reply actions
Man Gentry looked pissed that Frye passes up that look
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
That would be nice. Even with the open looks I'd rather they'd not settle for the jumper
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
"turrible"
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by RogersPark Kris on Nov 19, 2009 7:14 PM MST up reply actions
Charles probably should.
Getting killed on the boards and when we’re having to double team Emeka Okafor on defense, that means our big men are playing pretty terribly on that end.
Channing Frye is hurting the Suns at both ends tonight.
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Yeah, Frye plays way too far from the rim
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by RogersPark Kris on Nov 19, 2009 7:17 PM MST up reply actions
He doesn't seem to have any kind of post up skills
How is his drive game?
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by RogersPark Kris on Nov 19, 2009 7:19 PM MST up reply actions
he's 0-4 tonight
i’d say he’s dying on the 3pt line.
by Chucko on Nov 19, 2009 7:20 PM MST up reply actions
Just can't expect an NBA team to play two bad games.
These guys have pride, too. We beat the tar out of them last time, but that doesn’t mean we can under estimate them the next time.
Fanaticism is not logical
We're playing like poo
we’ll come out in the second half and spank them.
by Chucko on Nov 19, 2009 7:20 PM MST up reply actions
There are definitely benefits to having an off game
Especially if we can win this one. It can serve as a good reminder to play hard.
Fanaticism is not logical
a couple of good runs and that'll be the end of the hornets.
by Chucko on Nov 19, 2009 7:23 PM MST up reply actions
I love Charles Barkley
… and the gratuitous punishment he takes with a smile from his cohorts.
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"Let's face it, Porter got screwed."
Don’t pull any punches there Chuck
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by RogersPark Kris on Nov 19, 2009 7:26 PM MST reply actions
Yeah, he's out there
But he can rebound and is one of most athletic centers in the game
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by RogersPark Kris on Nov 19, 2009 7:29 PM MST up reply actions
Barkley just said AI is going to hurt Chris Duhons stats!
LOL , who cares?
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by RogersPark Kris on Nov 19, 2009 7:31 PM MST reply actions
Amar'e
Still a mite slow with his footwork. I expect that to change by the All-Star Break if not sooner.
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How about the Nash-Richardson pick and roll?
Nicely done, Alvin.
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That's going to get ugly if New Orleans doesn't adjust.
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hello all just tuned in, like what we see so far?
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No.
Weak start. Killed on the boards, no interior or perimeter D and cold shooting. Came around a bit in the 2nd quarter, and looking to finally get rolling in the 3rd. But the slow start had me dropping Fail-bombs all over the Suns.
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Poor Devin Brown
Getting abused.
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by RogersPark Kris on Nov 19, 2009 7:47 PM MST reply actions
un gato fuego taco! por favor!
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by The Rising Sun on Nov 19, 2009 7:50 PM MST up reply actions
I'm the Nashurnaut. No one stops the Nashurnaut
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by The Rising Sun on Nov 19, 2009 7:50 PM MST up reply actions
Channing Frye is black hole
3/13 – 0/5 from downtown
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by RogersPark Kris on Nov 19, 2009 7:56 PM MST reply actions
a*
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by RogersPark Kris on Nov 19, 2009 7:56 PM MST up reply actions
BOARDS!!!
Could we give up a few more Offensive boards please? 22 so far this game just isn’t enough.
BOX OUT DAMMIT!
by Chucko on Nov 19, 2009 7:57 PM MST reply actions
Don't blame the refs
Blame the boards, or lack thereof.
by Chucko on Nov 19, 2009 8:03 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Word.
20+ extra possessions will keep a team in any game.
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Forget the refs!
just play, Amar’e!
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
by PanamaSun on Nov 19, 2009 8:00 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
Word.
Haven’t seen an obviously terrible call yet.
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come on suns. grant hill is a badass p.s.
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That was just a silly pass by Nash to Hill.
Amazing.
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Why is Channing Frye in the game despite 4-14 shooting?
10 rebounds might have something to do with that. It’s the little things sometimes, folks.
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I had a bad feeling about this one...
I don’t know why everyone was so confident in a blowout…obviously the Suns were too. Losing this game would really take the wind out of our sails. If we pull it out, it should be a wake up call to this team that they we still have a long way to go and now is not the time to get cocky, and we are in no position to look at any game as a “gimme”.
by DaMax85 on Nov 19, 2009 8:02 PM MST reply actions 3 recs
+1
A team doesn’t humiliate anoter team so badly as we did to NO and repeat it the next time the two teams play.
Fanaticism is not logical
by SunDolphin on Nov 19, 2009 8:04 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
not too bad thanks to dudley
is it me or is he ahead of barbs for 6th man of the suns
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ahead of?
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It doesn't matter
Amare, Frye, Richardson, Hill. Someone needs to sit to provide that starting squad some much needed energy.
Fanaticism is not logical
it would have to be richardson or hill
based on the positions. And I still think he brings so much energy off the bench he’s more valuable there. I don’t think you start him in front of either of those guys.
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I freaking said it!
This was going to be a test to their mental toughness. They thought NO was going to bend over. D West is sitting due to foul trouble and we can’t pull away.
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
by PanamaSun on Nov 19, 2009 8:08 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
Thursdays are unlucky for us...
Played like crap last Thursday against LA, too.
Suns have the TNT curse
It breaks tonight though…i have faith in the team.
by azmanian_devil on Nov 19, 2009 8:32 PM MST up reply actions
DUDLEY FEELING IT
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Which call has been bad?
Not buying the ref argument tonight. I’ve been backing up most of the fouls on my DVR tonight. So far nothing glaring.
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I don't have the benefit of DVR but that last rebound, it didn't like anyone pushed.
Fanaticism is not logical
And I'm not saying the refs are at fault for anything.
And they’ve actually been quite good tonight, as you say, but it pisses me off that when we have a good play going they call some tickty tack bull.
Fanaticism is not logical
I wish they'd let that soft contact stuff go.
Cause we all know they can’t call all of it, so what they do call looks a hell of a lot like crap to me.
Fanaticism is not logical
They just keep on bitching about the refs
just get your f*cking head in the game.
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
Mental Toughness 101
- winning without the refs.
by Larfleeze on Nov 19, 2009 8:22 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
And the numbers are even
16 on the Suns, 18 on the Hornets
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Sorry, typo
Flip those numbers. 19 on the Suns and now 16 on the Hornets.
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It's not what they call, it's what they don't call.
by Chucko on Nov 19, 2009 8:32 PM MST up reply actions
Excuses.
The Suns came out flat, stayed flat, didn’t box out, missed some open looks and are paying the price. Ref impact has been non-existent. This one is completely on the team.
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I think Peja snuck into the Suns locker room...
and stole some of Grant Hill’s youth juice.
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by Mike Lisboa on Nov 19, 2009 8:32 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
no defense
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thats the way we play, not them lol
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A lot to be learned from this game.
A good sacrifice to the gods, if your goal is long term improvement.
Fanaticism is not logical
agreed.
it’ll be like a punch to where the sun don’t shine…
by azmanian_devil on Nov 19, 2009 8:36 PM MST up reply actions
Maybe the Suns are losing because...
they’ve given NOLA 25 extra possessions via offensive rebounds… and are allowing 1.4 points per possession. Poor rebounding and poor defense are a bad, bad mix. Lucky to be down only 4 with a minute left.
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JRich is an idiot
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
That's why I'm not concerned, overly, about how we played.
I don’t think we took the night off as much as we underestimated NO. Still, they had to do some incredible things to beat us.
Fanaticism is not logical
I'm pretty overly concerned
Our rebounding looks turrible, Amare looks slow, and our defense, as has been the case ever since we traded Marion, BLOWS. No excuse for this loss.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
We've outrebounded most teams we've played.
It’s one bad game. I think a lot of you should take a deep breath and temper your expectations. We’re either an overrated 10-3, or had a fluke game. We’ll find out Sunday against Detroit. Either way, this game doesn’t mean a whole lot. They had a clear emotional edge because of our prior beat down. They were at home. They had an unheard of advantage on the offensive boards. They outhustled us and barely won, even though we still controlled much of the game from the middle of the first to the middle of the fourth. I know it wasn’t the 148-61 drubbing you all expected, but we’ll be fine, or we’ll lost a lot more games than just this one and likely no one will remember New Orleans on November 19, 2009.
I totally disagree with you that our defense was better before Marion was traded. We simply have different views of what defense is supposed to be. Good defensive teams aren’t made up of one great defensive player surrounded by mediocore to shit defenders.
And the excuses don’t matter. It’s not why we lost, but THAT we lost, and this is a good loss because it’ll refocus Nash and co. I think it’s a much better loss for that purpose than either the Magic or Laker losses.
Fanaticism is not logical
KT, Boris, Raja
Mediocre defenders? Our team defense was fifth without Amare in the lineup, because we had four guys protecting Nash. KT got injured in Jan 06, then our defense went down. We were 13-17 when D’Antoni was here(w/ Marion). Last season we were bottom five. This season we’re bottom 10. I don’t see how you our defense is better when it’s statistically NOT.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
And yeah I think we're an overrated 10-3
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Those are good points, but I just don't buy into it.
IMO KT and Raja were solid defenders but their defense never benefited the team. Two guys on a team of 7 guys that actually get playing time don’t make the team a defensive juggernaut. We could have been first in defense without Amare, but the problem is, we had Amare. Nash has always been a defensive liability, but to take him off the court would make the Suns an offensive failure. I think Boris Diaw was one of the most overrated players we had. The talent was obviously there, just as the performance obviously wasn’t.
What I’ve seen in 10 wins this season isn’t 140-point run and gun shootouts, but fourth quarter defense that gets us the W. I agree that this 10-3 may be overrated, but not if we continue playing the TEAM defense (not individual defense) that we’ve been playing.
If TEAM defensive is the new Suns, we’ll be much better, even without KT or Boris. They could only gaurd one guy at a time, anyway, so what good did it do if they guarded Kobe or Duncan only to have Nash or Amare or someone else give up 2 or 3 points elsewhere on the court?
Fanaticism is not logical
But you're weighing your subjective opinion over tangible statistical proof
Under Mike, we were always very highly ranked in opp FG%; now we’re bottom 10 in that too. Regardless of whether or not you think Boris was overrated, or KT and Raja could only guard one guy at a time, what matters is that in terms of points allowed and FG%, we are a much, much worse defensive team today than we were even two years ago. I think that our 4th quarter D has been a revelation, but unless we get back into the 15ish range(instead of the 20ish range that we’re at right now, and the 25ish range that we were last year), we’re not going to be able to make any noise.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
It's definitely subjective with me.
You’re right about that. I agree that we need to get much, much better defensively, like top 10. It wasn’t enough before, with KT and co. It won’t be enough now. But I do see improvements, steps in the right direction. There will be steps in the wrong direction every once in a while, but they are needed to keep the team focused on what the goal is. Better happen now than next spring.
Fanaticism is not logical
True true
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Because a nationally televised game to the Suns is just another game.
But the teams we play get jacked up because they’re on national television.
Fanaticism is not logical
score?
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by Seth Pollack on Nov 19, 2009 8:45 PM MST via mobile reply actions
100, 106 NO
18 seconds left I think?
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
NO win to PHX Fail
108-100 New Orleans with 19 seconds left.
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how do u get OUTREBOUNDED by 30
And ur still in the game?
by ron_dasun on Nov 19, 2009 8:46 PM MST via mobile reply actions
you can't rebound that poorly and expect to win.
Amare and Frye need to have a long hard look at themselves, they are to blame
by Chucko on Nov 19, 2009 8:46 PM MST reply actions
ugh
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by Seth Pollack on Nov 19, 2009 8:46 PM MST via mobile reply actions
come on
dont foul. delay the inevitable?
Crashing the [message] boards from the heart of Spurs Nation, San Antonio, Texas. GO SUNS!
hmmmmm real funny how the Fakers start
The season with 17 out of 21 at home
by ron_dasun on Nov 19, 2009 8:49 PM MST via mobile reply actions
This should have been a blowout by
The hornets…glad we didn’t play a good team
by ron_dasun on Nov 19, 2009 8:51 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Tough Love
Eh, it always sucks to lose, especially to a team we should beat…but…we are 10-3, which if you look around the league I’d take in a heartbeat, plus the Suns need to learn to take it seriously from the 1st quarter and not rely on come-from-behind heroics.
Chuck is going to be so full of himself
Love Inside the NBA, love Chuck, but he’s a hater lol
That was such a good question I had to look it up.
9, counting tonight.
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Oh well...need the MIB memory eraser
by ron_dasun on Nov 19, 2009 8:56 PM MST via mobile reply actions
very very very
frusterating loss
not sure how we lost that
let alone didnt blow them out again
blah
hope the bulls take care of bussiness
???fml???
but then again
we lost to play horrible on national tv
not sure why
guess thats why so many commentators pick us apart
???fml???
Watching Noah gives me hope for Lopez
just hope he catches on faster than Noah..
by ron_dasun on Nov 19, 2009 9:01 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Anyone else noticed
That the bench has not played much in the last few games, outside of Barbosa and Dudley? Not encouraging.
I wouldn't worry much....just as long as the team
learns from these bad loses and shot…we’ve had some ugly wins too
by ron_dasun on Nov 19, 2009 9:05 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
15th consecutive loss on tnt!!??
i had no idea it was that bad
wow just wow
really lame :/
???fml???
Meh
We barley lost, we were way out rebounded, and Frye had a horrible night shooting and we still barley lost.
It’s a long season, feel free to jump off the wagon whenever you want.
idk if the bandwagon thing was towards me but
bulls and suns have always been my teams
no jumping off for me netime soon
???fml???
I'm certainly not off the Suns bandwagon....
…but I’m jumping out of Barbosa’s. Has anyone else noticed how much of a ballhog he’s become? How many times did he pass tonight? No, not assist – pass? EVERY time he gets the ball he puts his head down to drive or takes an ill-advised shot. Remember the 2-on-1 fastbreak with Dragic that he completely blew? I don’t know how you can play for so long under Nash and still not realize that he has to dump the ball off. I’m not just piling on after this game, either. He’s been doing this all season; we just haven’t lost, so I haven’t felt the need to complain. But after a game like this, where every possession was crucial? He would be sitting at the end of my bench. When did he decide to change his name to Leandro Bryant?
He's got 2 injured wrists
Still not back to 100% and he never has been much of pass first kind of guy.
I think hes more butt hurt that hes not playing minutes with Nash and he needs to get over it. He wont be playing many minutes with Nash especially since he obviously has not got his shot back too 100%
I know he's injured...
…and that’s exactly why he needs to chill out for a little bit. He just doesn’t pass. At all. I was watching the game with a friend, and every time Leandro got the ball, I told him, “Watch Barbosa take this shot.” And every time, I was right. Being completely honest, the only time I remember Barbosa passing the ball was on a play where he got stuck and flipped the ball out to Dudley, who missed his first three. Love LB’s humility, but I can’t stand his game right now.
-1 to all of that.
A healthy Barbosa makes that shot. Don’t forget that he made a great steal on the other end. Yeah, he SHOULD have passed it to Dragic in hindsight, but I’ve never seen Leandro miss a wide open layup before, until then.
Fanaticism is not logical
Haha, nice try except...
For his career, Kobe averages more assists per 36 minutes than Barbosa.
And that was TWO missed lay-ups. His game was all kinds of off tonight.
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by Mike Lisboa on Nov 20, 2009 12:13 PM MST up reply actions
Bright side of this loss
Dudley lights out from 3pt range. Suns lost and they know why. Keep the suns and the fans in check… we have the best record, it does not mean were going to blow out the nets.
Suns should have won this game but they didn’t. Still early in the season theres a lot more work to be done.
by Larfleeze on Nov 19, 2009 9:45 PM MST reply actions 2 recs
DANG
I was all upset that I missed this game because of class… but I guess it was a good one to miss.
Sorry I wasn’t in the thread – I should be next time!
I think its a good ‘slap-in-the-face’ loss. Keep us humble…
PEACE
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
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