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GAME PREVIEW: SUNS VS. HORNETS (less Chris Paul and Byron Scott)

See, Sean Marks everyone! (AP Photo/Bill Haber)

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See, Sean Marks everyone! (AP Photo/Bill Haber)

My how the mighty have fallen. The New Orleans Hornets plight is one that every Suns fan can relate to. Sucking, then becoming a contender, and then sucking again. Going through a coaching change, etc. Of course the Hornets  descent from up-and-comers to down-and-outers was much shorter than the Suns. What in God's name happened to these guys? In 2008 the Hornets picked up 56 wins, and barely lost in the Western Conference Semifinals to the dreaded San Antonio Spurs. That team was 5th in the league in offense and 6th in the league in defense. That lineup included the youngster CP3, the up and comer David West, the tenacious Tyson Chandler, and Peja Stojakovic. On the bench was Pargo and Bonzi. That year they owned the Suns, taking all 4 of the match-ups.

But last year the Hornets were one and out in the playoffs. Tyson Chandler fought the injury bug. CP3's main target for assists was gone, leaving David West to shoulder the scoring burden, while the gimpy Peja Stojakovic and James Posey attempted to carry the offensive and defensive load.

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Of course all that is ancient history, which leaves the Hornets in the here and now.  The Suns destroyed New Orleans nearly a week ago, which may or may not have slammed the last nail in the coaching coffin of Byron Scott the following day. HMM. I suppose the Suns alone cannot take credit for the Hornets debacle of a season thus far, we didn't injure CP3, and the internal problems existed beforehand.

Now, the Hornets are led by Jeff Bowers, who recently picked up his first victory against the Clippers. The win was ugly, but as we all know a W works much better than an L. One a one game winning streak, these Hornets could be dangerous. Yet after looking at the remains of their roster, I gotta admit, I'm not too scared, and I hope I don't have to eat my words (of course it wouldn't be the first time).

Match-Ups

Guards

Devin Brown and Darren Collison do not strike fear into my heart. Collison is the CP3 replacement, a rookie from UCLA who may end up being a nice player, but I see Steve Nash taking him to school tonight. Devin Brown picked up 16 points, dopwning three of six from three point range in the Clipper win, but Jason Richardson is far superior. I predict Rich posting up Brown whenever he can and raining three pointers once Brown begins to anticipate Richardson's intentions. On the bench is Bobby Brown, who evidently has put down the microphone for good, recovered from his ugly divorce with Whitney, lost some serious weight, and has now embarked on an NBA career. Kudos to him, although I really enjoyed his reality show. Another youngster on the Hornets roster is Marcus Thornton, a 2nd round pick from LSU. He has played in 7 games and hasn't done too much exciting stuff. Still, atthehive.com reports that he can "fill it up." So perhaps we'll have to watch for that.

Forwards/Center

David West and Peja Stojakovic are the only real offensive threats on this Hornet squad right now. With Chris Paul out, the onus of scoring falls on these two players. While West is capable of going for 30 on any given night, there's much less of a chance without Paul around.

Peja is averaging way below his career mark of 17.6 points per game. He's shooting 37% from the field and 33% from three point range. The injuries have taken their toll on him. Still, he has a career mark of 17.8 PPG against the Suns. While he certainly isn't having close to an All-Star season, he is always capable of getting hot and doing damage to the opposition.

James Posey is also a capable Forward/Guard who can shoot from long range, but like most of the Hornets, is struggling. At 3.9 points per game, I cannot say I'm real worried about him all of a sudden pouring in 40 to make the difference in this one. Emeka Ofafor is a quality player. He battles on the boards and is an opposing figure in the lane. But he is a waste in New Orleans. He is averaging a career low in points and rebounds per game. It's fairly clear he hasn't assimilated in New Orleans and it's too bad. At the Hive is speculating he could be dealt. I'd love to have him on the Suns.

 

How many of you knew Sean Marks was still playing in the NBA? Gotta admit I had no clue. He's a Hornet as is Ike Diogu. Will either make any difference? Will either see any playing time. Doubt it. Diogu though makes me wonder. He's now on his fourth team in four seasons. The former Arizona State product was the 9th pick by the Warriors in the 2005 draft. What's the deal? Are the Warriors that awful at scouting college talent, or is Diogu just not NBA caliber.  I know he's struggled through some injuries, but to be picked 9 and amount to nothing is kind of odd in this day and age. I realize it happens....Oh well, best of luck Ike...

Predictions

Unless the whole Suns team suffers food poisoning, I don't see us losing this one. In fact I'm predicting a blow out. I don't like to make such predictions, so I'm knocking on wood, but really, the Hornets are down and out. CP3 is the engine that makes the Hornets go, and he's gone. At this point they have no suitable replacement for him. And while Peja, West, and Posey are capable scorers, someone has to consistently get them ball. While opponents had to worry about CP3 taking the ball to the rim and shooting from the outside, they also had to concern themselves with him feeding the scorers. Forget about all that, there's no way we should lose this game.

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is is fair to compare the CP3-Chandler relationship with Nash-Amare relationship?

I didn’t watch much of hornets basketball, even when they were taking the league by storm. But if CP3’s game was so affected by Chandler’s absence, perhaps we should take that a lesson/reason to keep Amare around? After all, those two have an almost symbiotic relationship (altho a team that had Nash without Amare would probably be better than vice versa). I’d love to see a stat for Nash’s assist distribution and who is on the receiving end the most. But it seems like the loss of CP3-Chandler’s partnership hurt New Orleans as much as anything. So I’d be weary to take the gamble on trading/letting STAT go if we can expect a similar effect with the suns, especially with the Nash extension.

by yanyanman2 on Nov 19, 2009 2:26 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

There are similarities

Getting an assist means the guy you passed to has to score.

I suppose the difference is in how the person receiving the pass scores — i.e., if there’s too much a time/play break between the pass and the score, it is not an assist anymore.

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Nov 19, 2009 2:38 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

CP3-Chandler...

I think the key is the unspoken relationship guys have. I equate it to a quarterback and wide receiver. They practice together, they’re on the same page, they get it. Chandler suffered from injuries and regressed. I’m not sure he’ll ever be the same. Stoudemire on the other hand seems to be coming back quite nicely. While he’s getting stripped of the ball too much and of late doesn’t pick up the ball quick enough, I think he and Nash will get back to where they once were.

by Wil Cantrell on Nov 19, 2009 3:01 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Blowout issues

I don’t know about the “prediction” part of it, but I think we should expect one. We have the expectation of a blowout.

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Nov 19, 2009 2:36 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Ah come on man, it’s my first pregame, I felt it was my responsibility to make some predictions. With great power comes great responsibility? Maybe that’s not applicable.

by Wil Cantrell on Nov 19, 2009 3:01 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

marvel reference!!!

yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah (…) yeah!

Libertarianism is just Anarchy for rich people

by Murcy on Nov 19, 2009 4:00 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know about a blowout

that doesnt happen every time good team plays bad… but I am expecting a sure win, we cannot afford losing these kind of games… 11-2 looks nice to me…

by zeze_999 on Nov 19, 2009 3:09 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

With all predictions...

We’re only looking at things on paper. That doesn’t always pan out, hence the term “prediction.”

Agreed though, even if we win by one in OT, 11-2 is beautiful.

by Wil Cantrell on Nov 19, 2009 3:35 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I got your 6

BLOWOUT TIME.

It’s the only way to end the dreaded TNT curse.

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Nov 19, 2009 3:48 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Let's not jinx it...you never know..

I don’t light going into a game expecting to blow the other team out. Regardless of who we are playing. Remember, we didn’t make the playoffs last year. One game at a time. Let’s not get overly confident. We are just not quite there yet.

by DaMax85 on Nov 19, 2009 3:41 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I'm about a pessimistic as they come...

But even I admit that this should be a win….a loss would be as devastating as a 13th game loss when your team is 10-2 can be (which isn’t that devastating…but still). This is one of those games where they just need to rack up a win.

http://seasonsofdiscontent.com/

by scotthoward42 on Nov 19, 2009 3:42 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Blowout or not

I’d like to see the starters come out and at least try to blow up the Hornets in the first quarter. Wins or not, the tendency to start slow and come roaring back in the second half will not fly as the season wears on, legs grow weary and teams start to game plan better for the Suns.

As it’s been noted, this is a should-win which basically makes it a must-win. So I’d like to see the Suns come out of the gates early and get a jump on the Hornets and demonstrate and ability to both start and finish strong.

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by Mike Lisboa on Nov 19, 2009 4:18 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I agree

They can’t just lay back and expect to win. Believe it or not…this type of game is going to test their mental toughness and maturity as a team.

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Nov 19, 2009 5:10 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

The other thing about starting well, is it really gives our bench playing time and valuable experience. And games like this should allow our starters some much-needed rest over what is a looooooong season

by ArizonaCactus on Nov 19, 2009 5:13 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

When they got down to the Blazers

They just gave up,the arena is a ghost town,take care of business

by southern oregon on Nov 19, 2009 6:06 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

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