Practice Report: Nash Says Suns Got "Fat" and "Cozy" with 10-2 Record
Unlike last week when the Suns came home from a road loss to the Lakers and took Friday off before a Sunday game, today they went hard for a full two hours.
The media are let in for the last half hour of practice which almost always is just guys taking shots on their own or in small groups and perhaps a group of four or six of the younger players doing some extra work with the assistant coaches.
Today though Coach Gentry had the team going hard in five on five scrimmage with an 18 second shot clock. Everyone but Nash participated with Barbosa taking his spot on the starters squad and Taylor Griffin subbing in and out for Grant Hill. Nash was fine by the way - obviously there's no need for HIM to get in extra floor time.
The guys were into it and it was great to hear communication on the defensive end and see Gentry really lay into guys when he didn't like what he was seeing. At the same time between plays there was still some joking around.
It was nice mix between intense focus and loose camaraderie.
The highlights of the scrimmage were:
- Earl Clark throwing down a massive jam which drew plenty of oohs and aaahhs
- Robin Lopez practicing with the team for the first time and moving well. Offensively, he hit a nice mid-post hook shot which drew a sharp clap of approval from David Griffin and then on the very next trip down missed a wide open reverse layup which also drew a reaction I won't bother repeating
- It was fun seeing Jason Richardson argue (loudly) for a goal tending call on an inside look by Amare
- The highlight though was in the last couple of plays which were end of game side line out of bounds situations. Gentry had JRich inbound the ball off of Dudley's ass (if you notice he often turns his back to the inbound passer). Jason caught the ball and nailed the three and was fouled by Dudley who turned to contest the shot...laughter ensued as did a joke about the ball almost not bouncing back which you can interpret for yourself
- Practice ended on another inbound play that had the ball going in and Amare setting a screen on Dudley as Jason got open in the corner for a three. That certainly ended the tough work-out on a high note
Steve Nash had some interesting thoughts on the game in New Orleans. I love how he's willing to call out his team for a poor performance and not sugar coat anything. The Suns played poorly. They weren't prepared to battle. They were a little complacent with themselves.
Great to hear Steve acknowledge that:
"If we're honest we didn't deserve to win. We came out lackluster. We got ourselves back in the game but never really curbed the ills that we started the game with. We didn't really have any attention to detail and we gave up a lot of rebounds so our concentration and effort weren't good enough."
Steve talked about the teams tendency to play from behind
"Great that we have the characteristics to come and wins games that we're behind in but that's not the way you want to draw up a game plan. You want to come out early and play well and set the tone. Put doubt in the other team's mind and really have a solid 48-minute performance. You don't play in spurts or patches and have to come from behind. You expend too much energy and you play with fire."
Comparing this year's start to 04/05 when team was 34-4
He said the Suns have played well this year and rebounded the ball well and now they have to prove to themselves they can come back from a bad performance and do well on Sunday.
Nash said the league is stronger this year and especially the West.
Asked where the team can improve offensively
"I still think our rhythm, our tempo, and that seamless flow of getting into our spots and spacing and reading and reacting to one another. I think we've got a lot improvement to do there that just needs time and experience."
Saying more about underestimating the Hornets
"I felt like our energy showed that we underestimated them. I think we knew, we talked about it, Alvin (Gentry) told us this is a game that is potentially trap door for us. We talked about it but I don't think we backed that up or came out with the urgency we needed. Our concentration I thought was less than what was necessary and we found ourselves down big early. That was proof that maybe we underestimated them."
On how much of Tuesdays game was due to Chris Paul being out Nash said
"That's part of it but I think more than that we were riding a little high. We got a little fat for ourselves and we were just too comfortable, too cozy with our 10 and 2 record and didn't take care of business."
"It's going to happen in our league you know but it's frustrating and there's no need. Last night was very winnable so we've got to be greedy."
Talking a bit about the bench
Nash said that Jared Dudley is a huge part of the team and is becoming a leader of the second unit. Robin coming back will be huge. He's the only true Center on the roster and brings a great defensive presence and his offensive game is coming along as well.
I am trying out a new audio recorder. Take a listen and let me know what you think:
And here's the video via Suns.com
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This
Is what I was hoping to hear. Come home get to the practicing and prepare for Sunday.
Good stuff Stan
none given
but last week Robin said they are still talking about “early December”.
I am thinking they are going to want to have him practice for at least a week and that assumes no set backs w/ the foot
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by Seth Pollack on Nov 20, 2009 4:56 PM MST up reply actions
I like the loss
I totally agree with Nash. The Suns were #1 on a lot of site’s power rankings. All the media was talking about the “surprising” Suns. I hate that. It means nothing and it tends to enforce the feeling that all is well-supports a complacent attitude. I’d rather the Barkley’s and other pundits of the NBA to criticize our squad. It plants that chip on our shoulder a little more firmly.
And honestly, we haven’t accomplished anything yet. Sure, I’d rather us be 10-3 than 3-10, but we have a very long way to go.
We needed the wake up call. We have a couple days off and then face a tough Piston squad at home on Sunday. I’m done with predictions, but one would think the loss last night was embarrassing enough for the Suns to refocus and come out a-blazin’.
by Wil Cantrell on Nov 20, 2009 5:18 PM MST up reply actions
wow Nash looked old in that interview.
it’s amazing how well he moves these days, when everyone though he would be over the hill. It’s good to see him healthy and distributing the ball well.
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Not quite Junkyard Dogs, yet ??
Junkyard Puppies, perhaps. This team needs to develop a mean streak.
Still, we’ve lost exactly the same number of games as the NBA Champs, without the benefit of their schedule. That says something important, imho.
"True glory consists of doing what deserves to be written, and writing what deserves to be read".
by Pliny the Elder on Nov 20, 2009 7:07 PM MST reply actions
Amare
Didn’t have a chance to post last night, after reading some of the bashing Stat took from you guys over last night’s game, I wanted to point out a few facts.
1. Amare scored 23 points on 12 shots, do you realize that going into the 4th quarter he had 5 FGA’s? Is he to blame that Channing “Kobe” Frye was jacking it up EVERY time he touched the ball? You guys realize that after three quarters they both had 3 makes, only Channing had 14 attempts to Amare’s 5? do you think that if Amare was actually given more touches in the first 3 periods (he finished 8-12,) the Suns are still trailing heading into the 4th? In the 4th, he FINALLY got some touches and what happened, he kept us in the game, scoring 10 points up to the 4 minute mark when he then got ONE TOUCH the final 4 minutes!? There should NEVER BE a game when Frye gets more looks than Amare..
2.) So it must have been his defense right? Was he guarding the corpse of Peja? Was he the one getting punked by Okafor? His men MUST have gone off the way he was bashed, so lets see, West & Songalia went a combined 4-19! Was he the guy who left Peja and Collison WIDE open on the back breaking 3’s? Nope, that was HILL & NASH! Could he have boarded more, of course, was he perfect, nope… but the anger and bile directed at him when he is WAAAY down the list of people to blame for that loss.
3.) It appears Stat has taken Matrix’s place as the guy who gets all the blame for everything wrong with the Suns WHO ARE 10-3 BY THE WAY…You guys all like the way that turned out with Shawn? Lets not make the same mistake twice..
You can't blame Channing for taking open shots
by hcblankscreen on Nov 20, 2009 9:12 PM MST up reply actions
Gotta get Channing's back here
That’s a coaching decision. If you noticed, any time Frye passed on that shot, Gentry was down his throat. That’s not Channing being selfish; that’s how Gentry wants the offense to work.
And if Frye hits his season average (or even his lower career average) from downtown, the Suns win. Also, Amar’e would have had a few more attempts if he hadn’t turned the ball over 5 times last night (twice in the 4th quarter).
That said, there’s more than enough blame to go around for last night’s loss that no one should really be singling out any one player.
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by Mike Lisboa on Nov 20, 2009 10:12 PM MST up reply actions
Why is it that everyone has become a Frye apologist all of the sudden?
The guy has been hitting shots, true, but it wasn’t his night and he should have stopped shooting. It seemed like he knew it and passed on several shots but Gentry and Nash kept going to him. I don’t believe in shooting out of slumps. Most of the times you hurt your team if you keep jacking up shots. If you you are having a bad shooting night you have to help your team on other areas: Boxing out, hustling, getting rebounds. You shoot out of the slump the next day in practice.
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
That's just not how the Suns play though
The offense is geared on taking open shots
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by Seth Pollack on Nov 21, 2009 6:34 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah, really. You can’t stand there and “think” you can’t take this shot because you’ll miss it again. In hindsight, don’t take those shots. But as he’s taking them it’s gotta to be possible that this next one will fall. That’s how the Suns have always rolled, and I like that. You have a talent, use it. Don’t go away from it just because it doesn’t work for a little while. Should Frye not take any shots Sunday because he missed them all Thursday? When does that stop?
Fanaticism is not logical
4-15 is probably about 5 shots too many...
If Nash has a bad shooting night, he generally tends to keep it down to under 10 shots.
Hemingway defined courage as “grace under pressure”, and this is a gentle way for the team to let Frye know that they’re going to depend on him, and that he needs to man up, in a hurry. Under such circumstances, if Nash is passing Frye the ball, and Gentry is telling him to shoot, it’ll probably pay off in the long run, even of they lose the game at hand.
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by Pliny the Elder on Nov 21, 2009 6:52 PM MST up reply actions
This game was lost on the boards...
I tend to go w/ what Nash says…low energy as a result of over confidence
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by Seth Pollack on Nov 21, 2009 7:18 PM MST up reply actions
that's not what I'm saying..
I was specifically trying to figure out why Nash would keep passing him the ball, and why Frye would keep shooting, despite having, what by all signs appeared to be a shooting night.
At some point in time, Frye is going to face a similar situation in an important game, where he has to take a shot, despite shooting poorly. I think they were using this as a teaching moment
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by Pliny the Elder on Nov 21, 2009 7:36 PM MST up reply actions
what appeared to be a bad shooting night.
Fortune favors both the brave and the prepared mind. Being both brace and prepared gives you the double edge.
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by Pliny the Elder on Nov 21, 2009 7:39 PM MST up reply actions
Maybe this is something Frye will learn from?
It’s obviously the first time in Frye’s CAREER that this has happened to him. Maybe he has to have this bad night early in the season, reflect on it, and not have it for the first time when we are least capable of surviving it?
Fanaticism is not logical
I agree
and I’m not saying Frye was the reason we lost, I just don’t share the “shoot out of the slump philosophy” If something’s not working, you adjust and give other players a chance. That’s all I’m saying.
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
you've really answered your own question, haven't you..
why did frye continue shooting? because to quote you:
“…Gentry and Nash kept going to him…”
you don’t just ignore your coach and the pg who is really the coach on the floor…if you want to question anything, I spose it would make sense to question nash and gentry for going to him when it was clear he was off, but honestly, if frye isn’t shooting 3s and stretching the floor, why exactly is he out there at all?
by Fritzy on Nov 21, 2009 8:40 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Was he spreading the floor that night?
They were letting him shoot. That’s why he was always opened. And I’m not questioning anything, it’s just my opinion.
“if frye isn’t shooting 3s and stretching the floor, why exactly is he out there at all?
The fact that you say this tells me how hard he needs to work on his game.
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
I think
people bashing Amare are in the minority. I for one have been surprised he has played this well due to all of the missed time.
i think by christmas, he should be back into 100% game shape.
if he’s ever going to get there completely.
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by Trevor Paxton on Nov 21, 2009 12:35 PM MST up reply actions
I'm not one bashing him, though I've done so quite heavily in the past.
It’s not his fault we lost against the Hornets.
Fanaticism is not logical
Small correction: we were 31-4 in 04/05
Then proceeded to lose our next 6 after Nash got injured—>31-10
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
If the Nuggets can lose to the Clippers tonight...
then I guess I can somewhat forgive the Suns for losing to the wounded Hornets. That just cements the fact that you cannot disrespect the team you are facing, cannot get comfortable with yourself and must give a full effort from tip-off til the final buzzer.
by SF_Punker on Nov 20, 2009 11:59 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
Nugs lost to the Clippers
Blazers lost to the Warriors and the Mavs just barely beat out the Kings. Everybody gets bent out of shape after these losses, but it’s just the NBA.
by hcblankscreen on Nov 21, 2009 1:27 PM MST up reply actions
Just make sure
the season is filled with little bumps like on Thursday, have the team recover, and not get into a prolonged losing streak. That is why it was good to hear the team had a good solid practice with motivation. There is no question who’s team this is this year.
Hey, New Orleans beat Atlanta
What’s that mean? Either Atlanta slepped on them too, or New Orleans isn’t as bad a team as their start would indicate. Probably a bit of both.
Fanaticism is not logical
those rooks in NO can play
i sure hope we get to see a bit more of earl soon. i know im being impatient and getting jealous of everybody else showing off their rooks like trophies (is it just me, or is every rookie PG out there, plus dejuan blair, playing like they’ve got maaad business to prove to the rest of the NBA?) but i hope that when the time is right, earl will keep getting chances to contribute something important. a rookie bust would just break my heart. i trust gentry with player development tho, he does seem to have a better knack for it than his predecessors.
Earl can play now, but Gentry won't let him. I don't know why. Maybe Stan knows?
Do you, Stan? Like Yan, I want to see him on the floor getting minutes. Not because I’m jealous of the other rookies out there, but because Clark can really help us win games.
Fanaticism is not logical
Earl has
a ton of talent but also a lot to learn. Right now, Dudley and Amundson are much better options for those minutes. If he were to play more who do you play less?
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by Seth Pollack on Nov 22, 2009 9:35 AM MST up reply actions
whoever is getting burned on defense
and that includes our starters. i really think it depends on the game situation though. why not make earl guard the kind of guys that he’s supposed to guard?

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