Steve Nash Weighs In On French-Irish World Cup Controversy
Steve Nash is far more than a mere two-time MVP point guard for the Phoenix Suns.
Product pitchman. Philanthropist. Filmmaker. Franchise owner. And now International Diplomat carefully weighing in on the hottest topic in European relations - L'Affaire Henry. That name's pronounced On-ree and not Hen-ry for all you unsophisticated Americans out there.
Asked after the Suns practiced on Monday about the non-called handball incident that cost the Irish their chance to compete in the 2010 World Cup Nash initially responded with outrage fitting his English heritage.
"I think it's hypocritical. It's a shame that's what happened. My family's English and in England and Ireland you are taught from a young age not to cheat. Not to dive and not to do anything that would gain an unfair advantage. We English expect everyone to be that way but the truth is the rest of the world are taught to do the opposite - get any advantage you can," said Nash.
Them there's fighting words (that's really how we talk in Arizona) from Nash but he went on and took off his national colors and responded more as an individual athlete who also happens to be friends with Msgr. Henry.
"I think it was probably intentional but intentional after it already hit his hand he touched it again. My point is to people is they act as if he left his house that morning that he was going to handball and win the game. The ball came over 15 peoples heads, skipped on a wet grass and hit his arm. Whether he made a reaction to handball or not we're talking about a split second. So I don't think you can hang someone for murder when they just put their hand up. Manslaughter maybe."
Follow that? The rest of the non-English world are intentional cheats except for Thierry Henry who made a split second reaction and only committed Manslaughter. Is this guy a diplomat or what!
Nash closed with this bit of rationalization, "We can obviously say 'but he celebrated after and he did all that,' but when there's 80,000 people in your country that are erupting because you made the World Cup I would like to see how many of us would tell everyone to sit down and 'you know what I actually handled the ball'. That's the referees job."
I love how he finished on that consensus building note. Blame the officials. That's something we can all get behind.
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oh, shut up, Nash!
I’m disappointed in Nash for saying that. It is not true that everyone else in the world wants to cheat, and he probably damn well knows it. Ever since I heard that he was reading The Communist Manifesto and The Brothers Karamazov, I’ve been used to thinking he is unusually thoughtful and intellectually curious for a professional athlete, but my opinion on his mind just took a hit.
by species8473 on Nov 23, 2009 1:44 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
P.S. And I happen to be relatively Anglophilic.
by species8473 on Nov 23, 2009 1:45 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
english is not my native language...
…so can you please tell me if he was ironic or really meant that thing about english and rest of the world? if he was serious, i can find ton of material about english people, starting with famous wayne rooney diving school…
by zeze_999 on Nov 23, 2009 2:08 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
He didn't sound ironic to me....
Here’s the link to the audio if you want to listen for yourself
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/215009/Nash_on_French_Handball_112309.mp3
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by Seth Pollack on Nov 23, 2009 2:13 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
ok then, I listen to it
and certainly there is some fun about it and “bit of rationalization” at the end, and that’s fine… he even says “how many of US would say”, which tells that he is realistic and fair… however, he is english and there is no cure or treatment to that… meaning he has that bit of british arrogance for which I (and many europeans) don’t like them as nation…
this is manchester united star who “never dives” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm5-zLu8S9U
by zeze_999 on Nov 23, 2009 3:04 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Awsome.
In a weird way I really like to see players not always say the “politically fan friendly” thing. I love it when these guys tell us how they really feel about something.
And I don’t care about the whole rest of the world cheaters thing. Everybody thinks they are the ones that get screwed. I do it. You do it. We all do it. I think some posts addressed this issue recently.
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by antiw0rm on Nov 23, 2009 2:25 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Interesting
I know Nash’s father and brother are professional futbol players, and that Nash isn’t half-bad himself, however the initial argument he makes regarding English footballers is horribly off, at least in practice. I watch a ton of EPL games, and English players are just as prone to diving, which is, I think, the most common form of cheating in futbol. It’s analogous to saying the Spurs (notorious floppers and the “British” of the NBA in this analogy) are taught to play the game correctly and that whenever Nash flops, or anyone on any other team, it’s because they are taught to gain any extra advantage and not to respect the game. I’m just not buying it.
Worse, assuming the rest of the world is “taught to do the opposite” seems to me to reinforce English imperialism on a philosophical level, and it seems beneath Nash. I don’t understand what his point is there.
I was pleasantly surprised to see him call out a friend, however…I agree the handball wasn’t intentional at least initially and I dont think any blame really needs to be put on Henry, but rather the refs who clearly missed the right call…
by ArizonaCactus on Nov 23, 2009 2:54 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
are they really friends...
…or were they just caught on the same picture once or twice during some charity game(s)? I don’t think they are that good friends, but I might be wrong…
by zeze_999 on Nov 23, 2009 3:07 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
i think they know each other, for sure. I don’t think they are best friends or anything, but they definitely know each other and are at least acquaintances. Nash watched the Barcelona-Chelsea match at Stamford Bridge for the UEFA Champions League semi-final and Henry played in his charity game in NYC this summer (and maybe last summer)…
by ArizonaCactus on Nov 23, 2009 3:11 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Brilliant.
I love how he finished on that consensus building note. Blame the officials. That’s something we can all get behind.
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by Mike Lisboa on Nov 24, 2009 9:23 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

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