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Who Are The Phoenix Suns' Rivals?

An interesting question was raised in the comments section of one of the posts: Who, exactly, are the Suns rivals?

One could consider any member of the Pacific Division or Western Conference a rival, but that seems a little broad, especially considering the disparity in talent levels or lack of proximity involved. That would certainly seem to dilute the impact of any one rivalry.

You could then cut that number down to say, the top half of the Western Conference and Pacific Divison since the Suns have been playoff contenders for most of their history and therefore are constantly jostling with the top teams in the conference and division for playoff seeding.

And then you can look at history and say the Suns have met the Spurs and Lakers pretty frequently in the playoffs and even their regular season games have a playoff vibe to them. Of course, the problem there is that historically, both the Lakers and the Spurs have more or less pwned the Suns so those rivalries would seem to be a bit one-sided (see Red Sox vs. Yankees, 1919-2003). Technically speaking, this would make the Lakers and Spurs more nemeses (from Merriam-Webster.com: a formidable and usually victorious opponent or rival) than rivals.

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Regardless of that history, the respective fanbases of the Suns, Spurs, and Lakers definitely get fired up for those games: Suns fans because they resent the success of the Spurs and Lakers (hence the habitual reference to the Lakers and Spurs as cheaters, floppers, bores, David Stern's favorites and other insinuations that neither franchise has "earned" its success) and hold a burning desire to upend the Western Conference power structure; and Spurs and Lakers fans because they consider the Suns inferior never-was also-rans (hence the habitual reference to the Suns as whiners, crybabies, excuse-makers, conspiracy theorists and other insinuations that the Suns haven't earned a seat at the grown-ups' table, i.e, won a ring) and so they can break our hearts one more time.

That said, I'd also include the Mavericks here since they are most like the Suns in their inability to get to the promised land, yet consistently flirt with the ultimate success that both the Lakers and Spurs have achieved in recent memory. The Suns-Mavs history has been a rivalry of scraps so to speak. (Oh and there was that one time Danny Fortson committed a flagrant foul on Zarko Cabarkapa and broke his wrist... never forget!)

As for me, I think a Suns win is a Suns win.  If it's against a Western Conference team (especially a top one like the Nuggets or Jazz), that's good because it helps with playoff seeding.  If it's a Pacific Division team, even better because it put the Suns one step closer to winning the division and guaranteeing a top seed.  Against the Mavericks?  That's a nice measuring stick with regards to the top half of the Western Conference.  And if it's against the Lakers or Spurs?  Well, that's one step closer to the grown-ups' table now, isn't it?

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Who do you consider the Suns' biggest rival(s) in the NBA?
Los Angeles Lakers
151 votes
San Antonio Spurs
171 votes
Spurs and Lakers equally
143 votes
Dallas Mavericks
38 votes
Any Western Conference Team
25 votes
Whoever They're Playing
25 votes

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That’s whoever is on the court wearing a different uniform than mine. As simple as that. Sure, there’s a lot of hype when The Suns play the Lakers and Mavs and Spurs but the truth is that anyone who stands in your way and can hurt your chances of reaching a goal is your rival.

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Nov 24, 2009 9:39 PM MST reply actions  

You know who's not my rival?

The evil monkey. I approve of this avatar, sir.

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by Mike Lisboa on Nov 24, 2009 9:56 PM MST up reply actions  

Historical rivals or rivals in the current season?

When you have a clear goal of winning a championship, your rival is always the better team in the competition.

When your main goal is simply to achieve the PO, the only rivals are in your same conference because each defeat of them gives you more chances of achieving that goal.

We could change the question: what team do you like to win more?

by matrix7 on Nov 25, 2009 1:12 AM MST reply actions  

Yes, the Spurs are our rivals....

…but like many other Suns fans, my distaste for them is borne out of an envy of their success and an unwanted-but-undeniable admiration for their ruthless efficiency and class (minus the Horry/Bowen-related incidents). The Lakers? Nothing but pure hate. OK, there’s a little admiration for Kobe The Basketball Player, but other than that? I hate Kobe The Person, Sasha Vujicic The Thing, Phil Jacson and his arrogance, Andrew Bynum and his unearned swag, their homerific announcers, and, most of all, their spoiled, unknowledgeable, car-flag-bearing fans.

by Silkster on Nov 25, 2009 1:36 AM MST reply actions  

Bitch Boy, Ham Sandwich, King Chicken, and HOW!

It’s a Stern league. He eats all based in SoCal and San Antonio.

by Doctor Strom on Nov 25, 2009 7:52 AM MST up reply actions  

Glasgow Celtics vs Glasgow Rangers is a rivalry...

anything less is merely mild disdain in comparison, and not worthy.

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by Pliny the Elder on Nov 25, 2009 2:12 AM MST reply actions  

oh well

Barca-Real, Manchester United (forever love) – Liverpool… real football just teems with rivalries

Libertarianism is just Anarchy for rich people

by Murcy on Nov 25, 2009 2:33 AM MST up reply actions  

Lakers and Spurs

Both out of pure hate, and because of our playoff and regular season encounters

Libertarianism is just Anarchy for rich people

by Murcy on Nov 25, 2009 2:33 AM MST reply actions  

Mavs

I have always felt like that sinceJason Kidd, Michael Finley, Nash, Bell, and Marion have played for both teams, and the teams are very close in history as well as accomplishments that they form a natural rivalry. The Lakers and the Spurs are like the big bullies, and you cannot have arivalry when one team wins all of ther time.

The Mavs fans brag all the time how they were “robbed” in the Miami series, but the real championship was dercided in that epic WCF when the Suns left it all on the court and almost beat the Mavs before they ran out of players.

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by Hawk42 on Nov 25, 2009 6:38 AM MST reply actions  

Perhaps exactly because of

the fact that we had many good common players, played a similar style for season, or something else, but I really like the mavericks. I don’t feel like they are rivals, and mostly my experiences with mavs fans have been okay as well. not to mention they have one of the best bloggers around (rob mahoney)

Libertarianism is just Anarchy for rich people

by Murcy on Nov 25, 2009 7:18 AM MST up reply actions  

Laker fan to Suns

Not all Laker fans are lacking knoweledge. That is to broad of a statement. As far as rivals go from my perspective. I think the person who said whoever we are playing at the time is right on the money. I viewed the Nuggets as the Lakers biggest rival last year because I thought they would be the toughest team to beat. This year it could be the Suns. There is only one team I see as a real rival and that is the Celtics. Just because of the long history between them. I don’t hate any team or any player. I think that is to harsh. If Kobe were a Sun you’d love him.
     I know this is a Suns blog so this is what I really wanted to say. Congrats on your great start. With 2 easy teams coming up you’ll be 13-3. All the experts thought it was the Spurs who would be in this position. You fooled us all. If you make it through Dec. I might start to worry!

by jdcrosier on Nov 25, 2009 10:45 AM MST reply actions  

there is a difference

between hating a player and a team. I like the Suns, but I disliked Shaq, not only because he murdered our team. Before that, I loved Marion as a player, but hated the whining he was coming out with all the time. I respect Kobe as a player, top 5 in the league (possibly top 2), but don’t like him. can’t even properly explain why. as for lakers fans lacking knowledge: a very good counter-example is silver screen and roll (and forum blue and gold), an excellent blog. I remember i had very good discussions last year there through the Denver and Orlando series (both teams I like)

Libertarianism is just Anarchy for rich people

by Murcy on Nov 25, 2009 11:44 AM MST up reply actions  

Nemesis vs. Rival?

Good point.

Over the years, I’d say the Suns and the Jazz have been pretty even. Recently, its been the Mavs.

Pure hatred is another category

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Nov 25, 2009 1:03 PM MST reply actions  

I hate the Spurs, but let's face it, the Lakers are the RIVAL!

They’re the team we HAVE to beat. The Spurs were good and stopped us, but they were simply filling a void left by the Lakers when the Lakers were having a down few years. Now the Lakers are back, the Spurs suck, and the Universe is mostly as it should be. Except that we still don’t have our own championship!

The Lakers are the ones with all the glitter, second most only to Boston, and a hell of a lot more than the Spurs will ever have. San Antonio is in the middle of no where, anyway.

Lakers = Big Brother
Spurs = Step Brother

Fanaticism is not logical

by SunDolphin on Nov 25, 2009 4:13 PM MST reply actions  

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