Game Thread: Suns vs Grizzlies
by Seth Pollack on Nov 25, 2009 6:23 PM MST
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PrintMemphis Grizzlies at Phoenix Suns, Nov 25, 2009 7:00 PM MST
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Looking at this Grizzlies roster you can't help but be (mildly) impressed. Mayo, Gay, Gasol and Zebo are ballers and in the case of Zach also fighters. But once you get past their starters it goes downhill and fast.
The front court reserves include DeMarre Carroll who I am just going to admit not knowing at all. I watch a lot of basketball and pay pretty close attention to these things so running across a name that I don't recognize is kind of...odd. Along with the mystery Carroll is Thabeet and Haddadi who represent the tallest pair of slow footed and awkward Centers since I don't know when. Perhaps though we will get to check in with former Sun Steven Hunter. That might be fun.
In the back court they've replaced AI with a guy that might be even more wacky and far less talented in Jamal Tinsley. This is guy that the Pacers - not exactly a top team - paid to stay away from their team for something like two years. The only guy that really intrigues me is rookie Sam Young who joins Thaddeus and Nick in a trio of young talented Young's.
With that mishmash of bench beef, I am going to go with the Jared Dudley + Goran Dragic Steve Nash and Amare Stoudemire pairing for my Predicted Players of the Game.
Coaches Notes:
- Lionel Hollins was asked for a comment on Allen Iverson's retirement. "I have none". He then went on to talk about how plenty of guys retire while they can still play but the don't have the mental desire to do the work and deal with the travel
- Hollins of course cited the Suns pace and tempo as a key point for his team. He wants the Grizzlies to not take quick shots and not turn the ball over
- The Grizzlies are averaging 50 point in the paint per game which is 2nd in the league behind (I have no clue). They play inside out
- Coach Gentry stressed once again that you can't over look any NBA team and address comments that the Grizzlies haven't beaten any good team in their recent 4 out of 5 wins by saying that the last time he checked they didn't play a single Pac 10 team
- Gentry brought up the Hornets yet again saying yet again that they beat the Hawks after beating us and stressed how good Collinson is. Honestly he's sounding a bit defensive about that loss but I haven't seen anyone attack the Suns for dropping that game
- Gentry loves Marc Gasol and calls him a very underrated player who can do a lot of things and has mastered the "Euro flop"
- Suns will play Frye on Gasol but will also double him and play zone as needed. In the locker room one of the notes on the white board says "don't let Gasol dominate the game"
- Grizzlies strengths are Suns weakness - specifically offensive rebounding
- Robin Lopez won't play tonight but will play Friday unless he eats too much Turkey. Those are Gentry's words
- Gentry has been saying all week that Robin isn't the Cavalry. Expectations are being down-played and I think reasonably so. Robin deserves some time to get back into the swing
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i'm on.
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by Trevor Paxton on Nov 25, 2009 7:05 PM MST up reply actions
demarre carrol played at mizzou last season.
he’s a rookie that was taken in the second round, right? or maybe late first?
i remember liking him decently enough, but didn’t like him enough for the suns to consider targeting him. i remember him being a pretty solid player, rebounds okay and is pretty high energy, but his IQ isn’t great.
i didn’t know he was the main front court reserve for them. good for him, i guess. or maybe bad for the grizz?
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The name is vaugely
familiar…lets see what he looks like tonight
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by Seth Pollack on Nov 25, 2009 7:11 PM MST up reply actions
he's got dreads.
at least he did in college.
we’ll also see what he looks like on the court, skill wise.
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by Trevor Paxton on Nov 25, 2009 7:14 PM MST up reply actions
Anyone have a working stream?
Once again, NBA League Pass Broadband is blacking out a game… this makes for about the 8th game in a row I’m paying for that I can’t watch.
I really want to watch this game as I finally have a night off. Anyone having any luck finding a good stream?
http://www.rwbsports.com/ch1.html
There’s another game on right now, but it says it will join in progress…
Thank you very much.
I’m on the cusp of cancelling my NBA LPBB account because of this bullshit. This is freaking ridiculous.
Don't they blackout games that are "locally available" in their eyes?
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
good move by hill!
it seems like he’s one of the best in the league at avoiding the charge.
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Looks like the bigs (Zach and Marc) are going to cause us some problems tonight….
by Chucko on Nov 25, 2009 7:18 PM MST reply actions
very sad T_T
being a raptors fan, that game was difficult to watch…here’s hoping for some strong suns ball to make the day a little brighter
by azmanian_devil on Nov 25, 2009 7:24 PM MST up reply actions
gay's feeling it more.
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by Trevor Paxton on Nov 25, 2009 7:23 PM MST up reply actions
Would be nice if we decided to play some defense…. maybe get a stop or 2?
by Chucko on Nov 25, 2009 7:24 PM MST reply actions
amare needs to do that more.
especially with gasol guarding him. amare can stop/move MUCH quicker than gasol.
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wow
that was an impressive move from Dragic…I don’t think I’ve seen him do that before…a turn around fading in the paint after probing baseline? sweet
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seriously.
that’s that strength coming into play. he’s pretty tough, and elevating out of a group of three grizzlies players was a new trick of his.
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by Trevor Paxton on Nov 25, 2009 7:37 PM MST up reply actions
i know.
i would post more…but i don’t want to seem like i’m the only one posting in here. haha.
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by Trevor Paxton on Nov 25, 2009 8:10 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah.
I couldn’t believe that play. It was like he thought about passing and then thought (and I think he thinks this a lot right now), “Steve would shoot a fadeaway right here… watch this.”
It’s pretty clear he’s increasingly modeling his game on Nash’s, albeit in his own somewhat aesthetically limited but athletically gifted way.
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p.s. can we just mention that ASU has jumped on duke early?
impressive and one move from trent lockett a second ago.
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Stan…. is there an article on the change in Amare this season (humble, cheering on bench players) in the pipeline?
if not, there should be.
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by Trevor Paxton on Nov 25, 2009 7:56 PM MST up reply actions
no
but in my notes I was just noting how smart he is playing. Under control and yet active and aggressive
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by Seth Pollack on Nov 25, 2009 8:04 PM MST up reply actions
Okay, cool.
I’ve never been an Amare fan and have always been the first to pounce on the negatives associated with him. I was still campaigning for him to be traded going into this season but he’s made me think twice with his mature play, improvements year on year and battles through adversity.. I’ll never fully trust him. I’ll look upon him like a cat – you never know when it’ll attack you and rip your eyes out with it’s pointy claws..okay, so that analogy was completely about a cat, but my point is that in the back of my mind, I still believe Amar’e will never fully be happy here. But while he is here and is the new improved Amare, he now has my full support.
Grant Hill with the charge
good stuff, likin the post play by J-Rich
wow, how about that.
nash really is amazing.
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thats how you close out a half
lovin’ this so far…J-Rich baby!
hopefully we continue this…will help me get over the worst loss in Raptors team history lol…
Wow!
Nash with two great assists! closing the quarter really strong!
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
Really?
Only 46 comments so far? I know it’s the Grizz, but where is everybody? Just caught up on the DVR!
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i know.!
i would post more…but i don’t want to seem like i’m the only one posting in here. haha.
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by Trevor Paxton on Nov 25, 2009 8:11 PM MST up reply actions
LOL
That was the only reason I was not posting haha…will catch up in the 2nd half!
by azmanian_devil on Nov 25, 2009 8:13 PM MST up reply actions
Maybe people are getting prep for Thanksgiving?
I hope that´s the case
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
Thoughts so far...
After a slow start (I just need to make a macro for that phrase apparently), the Suns seem to have dialed in on both ends. How Memphis has not exploited some terrible mismatches is beyond me. Suns weren’t doing too well on their switches there for a while.
Fortunately, the offense seems to humming. After Rudy Gay pulled off that sick dunk (seriously, he should not have been able to complete that jam), it seems like the Suns remembered they can do a thing or two to rims themselves. Liked the 2nd quarter. Another quarter like that and the starters can hit the bench for the 4th.
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Memphis' Size...
scares me, but as long as we’re active on defense it looks like we can make stops and we’ll be ok.
I am trying to take more
notes and write my recap during the game so I can get out of here faster and be more focused with my post game questions….
Just call me Amare. Always working to improve my game
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Yeah.
It’s pretty clear you’re increasingly modeling your game on Coro’s, albeit in your own somewhat aesthetically limited but athletically gifted way.
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I've tried to do that
but it never works for me. I have to wait until the game is over to put my thoughts together.
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
non suns related...
but vince carter for three!
i love it when my favorite players make big shots.
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and look at beasley going all josh smith!
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by Trevor Paxton on Nov 25, 2009 8:25 PM MST up reply actions
In the media room
Ced Ceballos and Mark West were talking about Rudy Gay’s dunk…they were impressed
and there was ice cream and cookies too
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Pull away! Pull away!
Take this 14 point lead and push it to 20…
Of course, Randolph baseline reverses don’t help that cause.
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The rumors...
of Amar’e Stoudemire’s explosiveness’ demise have been great exaggerated.
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nice twain reference.
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by Trevor Paxton on Nov 25, 2009 8:30 PM MST up reply actions
That was before that nasty, NASTY dunk.
Sweet Jesus.
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How cool is to play with someone like Nash?
he just makes plays for you… you just have to put it up there. Just beautiful.
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
That was great D
from the Suns…helps of course when you don’t have to worry about defending Thabeet at all
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by Seth Pollack on Nov 25, 2009 8:36 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
OMFG
Steve Nash is awesome…
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
by PanamaSun on Nov 25, 2009 8:38 PM MST reply actions 3 recs
rec that
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by Seth Pollack on Nov 25, 2009 8:40 PM MST up reply actions
'Awesome' doesn't even explain him anymore....
…there needs to be an adjective created solely for the purpose of describing how pant wettingly amazing Nash’s game is.
that is wayyy too much information, dude. I don’t need to know about your bodily functions
Play today, win today, ‘das it.
The international unit of awesomeness is the femtoNash
for the mathematically challenged a femto is a quadrillionth, or 0.000000000000001 (10^-15)
most people are one or two femtoNashes. Steve Nash is a full 1 Nash worth of awesomeness.
"True glory consists of doing what deserves to be written, and writing what deserves to be read".
by Pliny the Elder on Nov 25, 2009 10:30 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
ah, unfortunately I am relegated to Gamecast… no game for me instead I have the Cesar Milan episode of South Park on.
Play today, win today, ‘das it.
why would you do such a thing????
http://www.atdhe.net/10299/watch-memphis-grizzlies-vs-phoenix-suns
Twitter update from @paulcoro
Magic lost. A Suns win gives them the NBA’s top record. And by the looks of the 15 consecutive shots they just made, it’ll happen.
Contributor: Bright Side of the Sun Twitter: @MikeLisboa
LETS DO IT!
That Magic loss was suspect though…I watched the last play, close call, could’ve been Offensive Interference
by azmanian_devil on Nov 25, 2009 8:45 PM MST up reply actions
also, wade fouled the hell out of VC.
it was a sick block, but he demolished his elbow too.
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by Trevor Paxton on Nov 25, 2009 8:52 PM MST up reply actions
Thabeet with his hands down
might was well be 3 foot 7 instead of 7 foot 3 as Amare shoots right over him
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Sam Young
is doing a good job living up to the “Young” family name in the NBA. Nice player
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He had a nasty dunk off the PnR sometime back
Loved seeing that, it was like old times…
by azmanian_devil on Nov 25, 2009 8:48 PM MST up reply actions
The Gorilla
is doing his dunk routine in a Turkey costume..
a Gorilla dressed as a Turkey dunking the ball…Where Amazing Happens
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by Seth Pollack on Nov 25, 2009 8:49 PM MST reply actions 2 recs
This is the best 3Q I've seen the Suns play
in my life. Not meaning to sound like Mark Jackson but it’s true, man!
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
It helps mightily that we’re playing the Grizz.
Also, Channing Frye looks incredibly awkward and uncomfortable on defence.
I disagree
I think he’s doing well on Gasol who is a very solid post player
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by Seth Pollack on Nov 25, 2009 8:52 PM MST up reply actions
Social marketing fail
A few minutes ago, Amar’e’s people tweeted for him while he was on the court.
Contributor: Bright Side of the Sun Twitter: @MikeLisboa
seriously.
didn’t villanueva get in trouble for that?
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by Trevor Paxton on Nov 25, 2009 8:54 PM MST up reply actions
Oh, no no
He was on the court defending Marc Gasol. All kinds of awesome.
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Glad this game is so far out of hand
…that I can notice stuff like that and poke fun.
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Just kidding
It could have been OT of Game 7 of the NBA Finals and I would have pointed that out. That was just dumb.
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Is it wrong...
…that I just heaved a sigh of relief that Barbosa knocked down that uncontested lay-up?
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WHY?!
Why are 3 starters still in this game? 21 point lead with 7 minutes left? I’m officially nervous.
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resting up the bench
for the stretch run
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by Seth Pollack on Nov 25, 2009 9:02 PM MST up reply actions
Still
Don’t like it. I was hoping there was some statistical milestone at stake to justify this.
Contributor: Bright Side of the Sun Twitter: @MikeLisboa
Grizzlies pulled the plug
and yanked Gasol and Randolph
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was i not pretty right on with my profile of him?
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by Trevor Paxton on Nov 25, 2009 9:05 PM MST up reply actions
alright, i'm out.
time to go out and celebrate.
Bright Side of the Sun, where Suns basketball never looked so good.
Also, you try carrying Derek Fisher for 82 games.
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by Mike Lisboa on Nov 25, 2009 9:08 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
anyone forget that
the Grizzlies picked Thabeet with the #2 overall pick?
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That's a 27 pointer.
Suns lose. Or should. He’s tied his career high (4 pts.) already.
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Hey Earl Clark
You’re not supposed to make that contested jumper! But I love that you did.
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He has a VERY high release on that shot
he’s going to shoot over a lot of people in his career…
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by Seth Pollack on Nov 25, 2009 9:13 PM MST up reply actions
Alando Tucker
is officially the Suns’ human victory cigar.
Contributor: Bright Side of the Sun Twitter: @MikeLisboa
Man, the Suns chemistry makes me happy
All those sports movies growing up have gotten to me…
Dragic is the MAN. Great game tonight, but really sloppy at the end. Oh well!
Fanaticism is not logical
Oh that has little to do with revenge. It's playing loose and free.
“Deer in the headlights” wouldn’t have done that in a million years. Dragic is loose, free, and is playing very well. Great gamesmanship by both him and Tinsley. Fun to watch.
Fanaticism is not logical
How overmatched was Memphis?
I didn’t even notice the Suns barely shot 50% from the free throw line. Or gave up 22 offensive rebounds. Or got outrebounded overall 49-29.
But I definitely noticed the Suns giving up a career high 9 points to Hasheem Thabeet. And that the Grizz bench chipped away at the Suns big lead in the closing minutes. Got a feeling the second unit is going to hear about some of this tomorrow.
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Disregard.
I’m high. I mis-read the box score. Suns shot 72% from the line and 53% from 3 point range. Comprehension fail.
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Let me retweet Nash
“Any1 c Tinsley drble btw Dragic legs & hit a floater only 2 have Dragic go back btw Tinsley’s legs a min later? Dragic showed heart & Comedy”
Man I missed this entire thing
I was packing up early and headed down…gonna have to catch it on the tivo
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by Seth Pollack on Nov 25, 2009 10:03 PM MST up reply actions
High five!
Didn’t get to watch the game….Amare w/ 18 pts in the 3rd = awesome, but 4 boards? What happened there?
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
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