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Nash and Suns Run Through Grizzlies 126 - 111

Steve Nash picked apart the Grizzlies defense leading his team to a 62% shooting night in their 126-111 win. Nash had 16 assists on the night which was one more than the entire Grizzlies team. (Photo by Max Simbron)

This is one of those games where box scores and statistics don't really tell the full story.

Normally, when you allow a team to shoot 48% from the field and win the rebounding battle by 20 and put up 22 second chance points you are going to lose or at least be in for a dog fight.

But normal teams don't have Steve Nash and Amare Stoudemire picking apart your defense and leading their team on a 41 to 20 run over a 12 minute stretch. With 3:31 to go in the 1st half the teams were tied at 47. By the 3:01 mark in the 3rd quarter the Suns were up 88-67. During that stretch the Suns hit 15 straight baskets, a streak that was only broken by a missed three from Jason Richardson who said this about his failure, "Hey man you gotta keep that low, you gotta keep that quiet."

Richardson was joking of course as was the entire Suns locker room after this win. Channing Frye was in fine form taking flack from some kind of comparison he made of himself to Rashard Lewis and overall the guys were a very happy bunch as they deserved to be.

Of course, the game wasn't without fault.

"The one thing we need to improve on is we are giving up too many middle drives to the middle of the floor and when we do that it obviously opens up the whole rest of the floor and they can make plays. So we have to do a better job of keeping the ball out of the middle," said Coach Gentry.

He was less concerned with the offensive rebounding differential as many of those shots came on the same possession and were multiple put backs. As Gentry has said before, teams can crash the offensive glass but the Suns will make them pay by getting easy run outs and tonight's 19 fast break points showed that.

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Defensively, the Grizzlies came into this game holding teams to under 100 points over their last five game but against the Suns attack they were helpless.

Early in the game they were staying home as Nash easily got by Conley which lead to some open looks for Steve. When the Grizzlies tried to adjust and bring help on Nash he started finding his teammates and they nailed their looks which helped Captain Canada log 16 assists in 30 minutes which was 1 more than the entire Grizzlies team in a combined 240 minutes.

Nash said this about the defense he was facing, "I think they were just caught in between. They wanted to stop my penetration but they wanted to get back to Amare and I don't think they were accomplishing either so that was opening up a lot of lanes for me to find my teammates."

Coach Gentry also felt that Channing Frye's presence is making a difference. His ability to spread the floor and pull a big out of the paint is helping Nash and Amare pick apart the defense and get right down the lane for some of those classic power jams. Frye was 3 of 4 from behind the arc and finished with 14 points and 4 rebounds. He also had a couple of nice hard fouls. He's no "tough guy" but when he takes a foul his man is not getting off a shot. Love it.

Grant Hill is also benefiting as his man leaves to cover the roll Hill floats out to the open spot and gets good looks. Grant had 12 points on a perfect 6 for 6 shooting.

Of course, Amare himself playing great is key. Hill thought it was one of the better games Amare's played and Coach Gentry was very impressed with his work in isolation. I can't disagree.

Early on he was aggressive facing up on Gasol and attacking his feet. When they backed off him he was taking and hitting open jump shots. Defensively he was active and disruptive almost to the point that you can overlook his getting destroyed in the rebounding department by Zach Randolph 13 to 4.

Then again, maybe the box score tells exactly the right story.

 

First Half Thoughts...

Perhaps it is the library-like atmosphere in the US Airway Center that's leading to these slow starts from the Suns. It's nice that a lot of people are coming to the games (and spending money) but it really doesn't help if they all sit on their hands for the first half. Where's is Ced Ceballos and his idiot cheer leading when you need him? Can't they give away some T-shirts or socks or something to get the crowd going?

Both teams started shooting too cold for the 80 degree weather outside and were 6 for 17 combined about half-way through the first quarter. The Grizzlies got going first with a couple of nice looks from Zach but Frye and Richardson's three-point shooting (3-5) kept the Suns in it long enough for the rest of the offense to catch up.

The Suns tied it at 27 at the end of the quarter off a beautiful turn around fade away in the lane from Dragic after he probed baseline in a Nash-like move.

Amare had a solid start to the game attacking Gasol facing up and being active on defense against Randolph. He had 3 rebounds and 6 points in his first 12 minutes of play. He looked but energetic but also controlled. He also had only 1 foul which has been the trend this year of staying out of foul trouble.

With Nash and Amare on the bench the pace picked-up but unfortunately the Grizzlies kept scoring as well even with Gasol resting.

The Suns started pulling away at the end of the half on a series of fast break run outs. The Grizzlies are so intent on crashing the offensive glass that they are not able to get back in transition. Offensively, Nash is able to get right by Connley and their Grizzlies bigs are afraid to rotate over.

The Suns went on a 13-2 run in the final 3:31 of the half to take an 11 point lead into the break.

What made all of that possible was the improved effort on the glass. The Grizz out-rebounded the Suns 16 to 8 in the 1st quarter but Phoenix came back in the 2nd quarter and grabbed 12 boards to 9 for Memphis. Once again it's a team effort on the glass with 4 Suns players tied for the lead with 3 each while Memphis is relying on Gasol, Randolph and Gay to do all the work.

By about mid-way through the 3rd period the game was already in blowout mode so I stopped keeping good notes.

 

And how about Grant Hill...not bad for an old man

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Gentry did bring back his starters at about the 8 minute mark in the 4th period after the Grizzlies cut the lead to 17. Gentry said that he wanted his starters to put the game out of reach so he could rest them instead of risking having to bring them back later in the period.

In the game Sunday against Detroit he didn't do this but the Grizzlies were playing hard and were making a push. In this case it felt like the right move to me and Nash only ended up with about 30 minutes and Hill with just 23. Amare lead the team with 36 but that's nothing for him and probably good for his overall recovery. Besides, he was playing so well why would you want to limit him?

Great win for the Suns. Very impressive way to close out the big two-game home stand before they now head out for another 4-game East Coast trip that goes through Minnesota, Toronto, New York and Cleveland on no rest. The board in the locker room had the high and low temperatures for each city and "snow" by Toronto. Gentry fully expects Shaq to play against the Suns regardless of whatever pain he's feeling

It's just another test for this team that so far has risen to almost every challenge and as a result is in sole possession of the best record in the NBA. 12-3. Not bad at all


Other Notes:

  • Suns perimeter defenders did a great job on Rudy and OJ holding them to a combined 9 - 22
  • Dragic was solid in his 18 minutes and showed some spunk after Jamal Tinsley torched him late in the game with a between the legs play. Goran came right back at him earning this praise from his mentor via twitter: Any1 c Tinsley drble btw Dragic legs & hit a floater only 2 have Dragic go back btw Tinsley's legs a min later? Dragic showed heart & Comedy
  • Sam Young joins Thaddeus and Nick as yet another Young who can play. I liked what I saw from that kid
  • Turns out DeMarre Carroll is a scrappy young rookie
  • Hasheem Thabeet is tall and can dunk the ball when it is passed to him right next to the basket. He's a nice garbage time player which is exactly what you want from the #2 pick in the draft
  • Did I mention the Suns shot 61.9% from the field? wow
  • The Grizzlies offense is very predictable. I understand the desire to play inside out when you have Randolph (and his huge salary) on your roster but there's so much more this team should be doing with Rudy Gay and OJ Mayo.
  • Mayo was a complete non-factor and barely touched the ball thanks to the black hole known as Zebo
  • Zach Randolph is the anti-Iverson and by that I mean he's an amazing talent who's huge and simply doesn't fit in any known offensive scheme while Iverson is an amazing talent who's small and simply doesn't fit in any known offensive scheme. When Zach's contract is over I anticipate him meeting the same fate as AI. Early retirement
  • Check out coverage from the other side at Straight Outta Vancouver
  • Happy Thanksgiving
  • Oh and I asked LB about his wrist. Still bothering him and still swollen but he said it is improving
  • and I watched the nutmeg fest (at home via Tivo)...Tinsley put a nice move on Goran but did you notice that Dragic still recovered and got in front of Jamal and made him shoot over his hand? And then he came back and drove right by Tinsley and since that wasn't enough he went at him again with a lefty between the legs move that got the bench up off their seats...fun stuff. Great to see him show that spunk. I wish I hadn't missed it live or I would have asked him about it

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A.I. is good though, and zach is a chubby lou hater. i want a picture of lou dunking on zach.

by kuato lives on Nov 26, 2009 12:06 AM MST reply actions  

didn't watch the game

but I dont like donplaying -20 rebounds… 22 ofensive rebounds allowed is shameful, it remind me of old suns and I think we all like new look suns and new vocabular (crushing boards, shuting teams down etc…)… I hope it was just one game against crappy team which allowed us to act that way, but mentality needs to be changed…

i always prefer amare’s 20+12 over 28+4(!)… ok, it is nice that he used this game to get back in full strength on offense, but 4 rebs in 36mins?!?! dragic had 3 in 18mins…

by zeze_999 on Nov 26, 2009 2:21 AM MST reply actions  

What’s the difference if three Memphis players sit around the basket and play a tip in drill, missing two or three times before someone gets it right? Or, in some instances, merely tipping it back to a Suns player.

If you outrebound a team by 20, you should win, unless of course you’re missing the shots. This differential is hugely inflated and should be nothing to worry about.

Fanaticism is not logical

by SunDolphin on Nov 26, 2009 6:40 AM MST up reply actions  

This was definitely the case.

I watched a lot of those “offensive rebounds” … there were a number of Memphis possessions where they missed 2 or 3 times in a row and never actually got the points.

by jburning on Nov 26, 2009 6:58 AM MST up reply actions  

ok, I believe you...

…but do you like the fact that 2-3 of their players were sitting around the basket and taking all of those shots without any of our guys to get rebound? it is not a question whether they got something for it or not, but some other (better) team will not be that sloppy and they will have +10rebs but will score after each… +20 is not a coincidence to me, and this needs to be put on players… mike d never did it… I am sure pop, phil or doc would scream on that… hopefully AG will to…

memphis scored 111 and shot 48%, so it’s not like they were missing all night…

again, didnt’ watch the game, will have to download tonight and judge for myself…just don’t like the sound of it :-)

sorry for my english… do you understand my sentences, do they make (gramatically) sense?

by zeze_999 on Nov 26, 2009 8:25 AM MST up reply actions  

Same problem here..

that i’m looking for a download link

by paulimer on Nov 26, 2009 8:29 AM MST up reply actions  

no link here either...

any help? I can only be convinced when I see it :-)

by zeze_999 on Nov 26, 2009 12:16 PM MST up reply actions  

Your English is fine

and your point is solid…if you watch Gentry’s post game press conference you will see how he deals with it.

It was an issue but in context of this season I am not concerned. Also note that in the 2nd when the Suns pulled away they actually out rebounded Memphis including on the OReb end and held them to 39%.

In the 3rd qtr they were shooting so well (85%!) it didn’t matter

This was an unusual game in that way and if it was a trend I would worry but the Suns have done well on the glass this year considering their size.

Remember also that Gasol and Randolph are very good reboundings and Thabeet even is huge

Blogging Suns Basketball . twitter: @phoenixstan

by Seth Pollack on Nov 26, 2009 8:34 AM MST up reply actions  

Z

The score was 114-89 when the dogs were called off. At the time Memphis was shooting 45%. They skewed the stats with a flurry against the subs.

April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?

by Hawk42 on Nov 26, 2009 9:28 AM MST up reply actions  

this is on me?

well, I would rather them get position on next possesion(s)…

by zeze_999 on Nov 26, 2009 9:49 PM MST up reply actions  

a bad beating?

What kind of award do the grizzles get for winning the boards? (I see a nice big concrete sneaker welded to the letter “L”)

by dCoye on Nov 26, 2009 5:59 AM MST reply actions  

Okay, too huge things for me

First, in the two games since the NO-debacle, Stat has come completely, wholly alive. Just more proof we NEEDED to lose to New Orleans the way we did. Very important loss. Great motivator.

Second, this game asnwers the big question about our latent running style. Do we not run because the other team is taking it away, or because we dont’ have teh same personnel?

Well, Memphis tried to score easy buckets on offensive rebounds, and they paid for it in fast break points by us. It’s clear now that the Suns can still run, but aren’t because we’re taking advantage of “strategy.” Not forcing anything is really helping us win games. Take what’s given.

Fanaticism is not logical

by SunDolphin on Nov 26, 2009 6:38 AM MST reply actions  

As far as running goes ...

I think we ran so much during the D’Antoni era because we HAD to. D’Antoni wanted them to run, regardless if the opportunity was really there or not, so they didn’t really perfect any half-court sets. Now, they only run when the clear opportunity exists, and run a very effective half-court set when they can’t run. I actually prefer the way they’re playing now — it’s much more versatile.

by jburning on Nov 26, 2009 7:00 AM MST up reply actions  

I didn’t realize I had re-phrased it so much until I re-read what you had typed. Sorry about that!

by jburning on Nov 26, 2009 7:45 PM MST up reply actions  

Doesn't matter to me. I like hearing the truth repeated.

We’re one dangerous basketball team.

Fanaticism is not logical

by SunDolphin on Nov 26, 2009 8:16 PM MST up reply actions  

STAT coming alive

I read that Amare is shooting 73% from the field since the Laker game. I think if you shoot 73% you can be forgiven for not rebounding in double digits.

April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?

by Hawk42 on Nov 26, 2009 9:31 AM MST up reply actions  

This team can play any style

J-Rich posting, inside-out game with Frye, pick and roll with Amar’e. They can run and hurt you with fast breaks. It’s amazing what can happen if you have more space in the lane and let Steve Nash create.

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Nov 26, 2009 7:03 AM MST reply actions  

I thought the crowd was pretty good

Good … not great.

I think Ced, et al., detract from the potential cheering. I’ve been in there when random cheers break out and simply get drowned out or changed by the jumbotron.

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Nov 26, 2009 8:57 AM MST reply actions  

The crowd got going

but only in the 2nd qtr….all season it’s been dead quiet to start the games

Blogging Suns Basketball . twitter: @phoenixstan

by Seth Pollack on Nov 26, 2009 12:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Dragic's move on Tinsley

was awesome…

The best part was afterwards, everyone on the bench was cheering, applauding, and giving him an extra boost in confidence, which is great for two reasons:

1. keeping Dragic’s confidence high keeps him playing so well.
2. it really underscores how involved the team is in games, even if it’s the last two minutes of a blow-out. was great to see everyone still paying attention to detail, even our ‘superstars’.

i just really enjoy watching this team again. and for me as a fan, that’s the most important thing..

by ArizonaCactus on Nov 26, 2009 11:15 AM MST reply actions  

Sooner than later Dragic is going to have to create his own confidence

I wonder if he’s not already doing that. He was a new player to all of this last year, out of his element. I don’t think it was so much that he didn’t have confidence, but that he wasn’t 100% sure of what was going on.

If Dragic is the type of player who is going to have to have things going his way all the time for him to perform, ship his ass off the team right now.

I don’t think he is that type of player. I think what we’re seeing has less to do wtih confidence and more to do with familiarity.

Fanaticism is not logical

by SunDolphin on Nov 26, 2009 4:53 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh

and everyone forgot that right after Tinsley pulled his move, Dragic blew by him for a lay up. Still not satisfied he went for the between the legs a few minutes after. So I’m not too down that he missed the shot. He showed great character!

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Nov 26, 2009 11:21 AM MST reply actions  

Dragic

has any one got a video of this i want to see it cant find it online

by phxuk: Ap on Nov 26, 2009 1:53 PM MST reply actions  

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