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Preview and Game Thread: Suns @ Wizards

Phoenix Suns at Washington Wizards, Nov 8, 2009 11:00 AM MST



Final - 11.8.2009 1 2 3 4 Total
Phoenix Suns 26 30 24 22 102
Washington Wizards 29 22 20 19 90

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This game worries me.

The Suns are coming off a big emotional win while the Wizards got their butts kicked by the Pacers 86-102 which lead to a team tirade with Agent Zero firing off this chemistry building barb, "We have a team where everybody thinks they should be playing," he said. "And when you have a team like that, you have bitter players on the sideline."

Just a shot in the dark here but I am guessing he's talking to Nick Young, Andray Blatche, DeShawn Stevenson and JaVale McGee and not to Fabricio Oberto who's started all six games.

Reading through these reports from the Wizards camp you see a team in early disarray that is struggling with more than injuries (Jamison, Miller and Crittenton).

With all this going on there's a good chance they will respond with fire in today's game and come out guns blazing. Or maybe they will continue their Iverson like pouting and continue to implode. Either way, it's a statement game from the Wiz and not so much for the Suns. That worries me. That and the early start which has long been a problem for the Suns.

Reading through various previews and reports the one note that caught me eye was the possibility that Randy Foye would start in the back court with Arenas. Foye is having a decent season so far and is a capable player but he's far too small to guard Richardson so look for the Suns to try and exploit that match-up.

On the front line Haywood and Blatche are not Howard and Gortat but those guys are still big and physical and are going to give Frye, Amare and Amundson fits on the glass.

A pissed off Gilbert. A big front line. An early start. This game worries me.

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Early start blues

Yes, last season the Cards weren’t the only valley team that struggled with early game times on the east coast. This could easily be a letdown game for the Suns.

Hopefully they recognize the importance of winning the winnable games this early in the season and can wipe the sleep out of their eyes and take care of business. The Wiz aren’t a cupcake by any stretch but they are beatable.

by Mike Lisboa on Nov 8, 2009 9:06 AM MST via mobile reply actions  

Good points. Still, this is a game where a team’s bench can provide a spark. I am confident our bench will be help out. Having LB active would make it even better. Anyone know if he’s playing?

by Wil Cantrell on Nov 8, 2009 9:24 AM MST up reply actions  

Rejoice! LB is going to play.

by Wil Cantrell on Nov 8, 2009 10:08 AM MST up reply actions  

grant hill 8 rebs, I just love him…

by zeze_999 on Nov 8, 2009 12:09 PM MST up reply actions  

ITS GAMETIME!!!!

anybody see that TC answered one of my tweet questions? haha

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Nov 8, 2009 11:01 AM MST reply actions  

haha

I only know of 2… but I haven’t been able to catch each pregame

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Nov 8, 2009 11:12 AM MST up reply actions  

why does the Suns game have to be on at the same time as the Cardinals game…

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Nov 8, 2009 11:07 AM MST reply actions  

Looks like Foye is starting over Young

http://www.bulletsforever.com/2009/11/8/1121519/phoenix-suns-vs-washington-wizards

Flip Saunders said he’s going with Randy Foye tonight in the starting lineup instead of Nick Young. Why Foye? “He gives us a little more offense and consistency when he’s on the floor,” Saunders said. Saunders clearly was referencing Young’s shortcomings when he talked about the consistency Foye brings.

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by Seth Pollack on Nov 8, 2009 11:12 AM MST reply actions  

JRICH

is manhandling Foye

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Nov 8, 2009 11:17 AM MST up reply actions  

ya leaguepass

wants to show me the pistons instead not too happy about this ne1 have a link otherwise?

???fml???

by Beatnik88 on Nov 8, 2009 11:13 AM MST reply actions  

I think we need to have a FT practice...

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Nov 8, 2009 11:20 AM MST reply actions  

Amare looks good fighting down low

for rebounds….

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Nov 8, 2009 11:22 AM MST reply actions  

33333333333333333'ssssss

First Frye – then Nash

Nash’s 3 caused by attention granted to JRich for his hot start!! I like it

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Nov 8, 2009 11:24 AM MST reply actions  

Wizards

are big up front but have small guards and wings and Suns are taking advantage

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by Seth Pollack on Nov 8, 2009 11:28 AM MST up reply actions  

I like it

and we’re executing it well

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Nov 8, 2009 11:30 AM MST up reply actions  

Nash already with six assists!? WOW

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Nov 8, 2009 11:30 AM MST reply actions  

now 4 of the team's 5

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Nov 8, 2009 11:35 AM MST up reply actions  

2 travels for STAT??

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Nov 8, 2009 11:33 AM MST reply actions  

This is one of those games

where the 3’s aren’t falling and the Wiz are packing it in…if the Suns were making 50% of those this game would already be over.

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by Seth Pollack on Nov 8, 2009 11:36 AM MST reply actions  

yeah

lets see if the bench can pick up the pace

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Nov 8, 2009 11:37 AM MST reply actions  

Whoa!

was that LB with that pass? wow

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by Seth Pollack on Nov 8, 2009 11:37 AM MST reply actions  

Dang

Arenas just put in the first quarter dagger -

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Nov 8, 2009 11:39 AM MST reply actions  

and he’s in shape and healthy this year they’ll win at least 10 more this year because of him

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Nov 8, 2009 11:40 AM MST up reply actions  

I don't think our shooting will continue to be this bad

Plus – we’re not pushing the ball – the pace is too slow

we need to pick it up and stop missing shots !!! :)

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Nov 8, 2009 11:39 AM MST reply actions  

LB is struggling with his shot, why taking those hard shots

by zeze_999 on Nov 8, 2009 11:40 AM MST reply actions  

he’s probably really excited/nervous to be back finally after watching his team play so well – I’m sure he’ll calm down and once he gets a few driving/slashing lay-ups his confidence will be back

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Nov 8, 2009 11:41 AM MST up reply actions  

yup

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Nov 8, 2009 11:41 AM MST up reply actions  

YYYEESSS AMARE TAKES THE CHARGE... kind of

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Nov 8, 2009 11:43 AM MST reply actions  

what’s his deal today? Most not be feelin’ it

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Nov 8, 2009 11:47 AM MST up reply actions  

LB FOR THREE!!

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Nov 8, 2009 11:44 AM MST reply actions  

sweet MOVE BY DRAGIC!!!

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Nov 8, 2009 11:45 AM MST reply actions  

he looks like he’ll be a really good player

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Nov 8, 2009 11:46 AM MST up reply actions  

Goran!

I couldn’t be more impressed with him this year.

by brian13 on Nov 8, 2009 11:47 AM MST reply actions  

I expected Lou and Dudley

and even Lopez this year to be scrappy – but GORAN DRAGIC has surprised me as one of the more scrappier players this year!!

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Nov 8, 2009 11:48 AM MST up reply actions  

wow was a sequence

Wiz miss two gimmies and Dragic delivers

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by Seth Pollack on Nov 8, 2009 11:47 AM MST reply actions  

same here

defending him last year was pretty brutal… this year he’s making us look like sages

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Nov 8, 2009 11:49 AM MST up reply actions  

it is my first game this year, and it is so nice to see such great hustle on 2nd unit… and amare great on defense, I thought I would never see that….

by zeze_999 on Nov 8, 2009 11:48 AM MST reply actions  

it crazy right?

this team is really fun to watch this year

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Nov 8, 2009 11:49 AM MST up reply actions  

and even when they miss couple of shots it doesnt bother me, they are getting iz back with D

by zeze_999 on Nov 8, 2009 11:52 AM MST up reply actions  

Today is really sloppy

Jrich looks good though

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Nov 8, 2009 11:53 AM MST reply actions  

Wiz playing much harder

than the Suns right now…turnovers…effort. Bleh

Suns staying in it but don’t like this game right now at all

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by Seth Pollack on Nov 8, 2009 11:53 AM MST reply actions  

+1

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Nov 8, 2009 11:54 AM MST up reply actions  

OH MY!!! JRICH IS ON FIRE

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Nov 8, 2009 11:53 AM MST reply actions  

JRich is crazy man!!! after that orlando game, I was thinking on scenarios for a trade :-)

but defense is soft now, LB is allowing his guy to penetrate and create problems…

by zeze_999 on Nov 8, 2009 11:56 AM MST reply actions  

Why do the refs let players hit the ball or pick it up and throw it to the them after they score..

That pisses me off. It stops us from being able to run after a make and it should be a delay of game.

by brian13 on Nov 8, 2009 11:56 AM MST reply actions  

I think about it everytime it hapens, pisses me off

by zeze_999 on Nov 8, 2009 11:57 AM MST up reply actions  

The players do it on purpose to slow us down

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Nov 8, 2009 11:58 AM MST up reply actions  

I know but rule is that it should be a delay of game.

Not that referees actually go by the book in the NBA. Its ridiculous.

by brian13 on Nov 8, 2009 11:59 AM MST up reply actions  

grat hill!!!!!

so many stupid turnovers, please stop already…

by zeze_999 on Nov 8, 2009 12:01 PM MST reply actions  

told you I was worried about this one

lucky to be in it…lucky we are playing the Wizards that is :)

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by Seth Pollack on Nov 8, 2009 12:03 PM MST up reply actions  

too true too true

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Nov 8, 2009 12:03 PM MST up reply actions  

props on that prediction

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Nov 8, 2009 12:03 PM MST up reply actions  

Grant Hill

is missing a ton of easy shots…including free throws…at least he rebounding and playing D

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by Seth Pollack on Nov 8, 2009 12:08 PM MST reply actions  

grant hill 8 rebs, I just love him…

by zeze_999 on Nov 8, 2009 12:11 PM MST reply actions  

What a difference

between Boston and this Wizards team on D. …they are not good

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by Seth Pollack on Nov 8, 2009 12:11 PM MST reply actions  

what a difference

between how we’re playing against this wizards team and how we played against boston.

it seems like a couple players might be realizing the wiz defense isn’t as good as boston’s, so they’re not playing with as much urgency.

maybe that’s just me, though.

by Trevor Paxton on Nov 8, 2009 12:14 PM MST up reply actions  

Did you see Frye

block out Haywood on that one? He did a great job getting his ass into the big fella and letting Amare get the rebound

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by Seth Pollack on Nov 8, 2009 12:37 PM MST reply actions  

WTF..

My league pass broadband is on the fritz!

by brian13 on Nov 8, 2009 12:38 PM MST reply actions  

13 assists for Nash already! 12 boards for Hill and 9 for Amare!

Lets hope the bench can come in and play the way they’ve shown they can.

by brian13 on Nov 8, 2009 12:41 PM MST reply actions  

This is the JRich

I’ve been waiting for…he really can take over a game and if he’s doing that 2 or 3 out of ever 5 games that’s really going to save wear and tear on Nash

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by Seth Pollack on Nov 8, 2009 12:41 PM MST reply actions  

Love that slow motion

break from Nash…he just skipped his way all the way to the rim

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by Seth Pollack on Nov 8, 2009 12:43 PM MST reply actions  

Robin Lopez

face book says “need a shave or two”

lol…

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by Seth Pollack on Nov 8, 2009 12:46 PM MST reply actions  

The RIGHT HAND

that’s first time I can remember him driving and finishing w/ the right hand…ever!

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by Seth Pollack on Nov 8, 2009 12:48 PM MST reply actions  

finally jumper by amare… where is goran??

by zeze_999 on Nov 8, 2009 12:48 PM MST reply actions  

oh come one, that was no foul.. and he is white!!!

by zeze_999 on Nov 8, 2009 12:50 PM MST reply actions  

The Wizards

might be better off just send the Suns to the line…hack-a-Sun

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by Seth Pollack on Nov 8, 2009 12:50 PM MST reply actions  

Goran w/ the full court pass to LB!

nice…looking for a bit more patience from Clark on offense

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by Seth Pollack on Nov 8, 2009 12:54 PM MST reply actions  

If Barbosa learned how to use his left hand on those left-ward drives instead of his right, he'd average like 4 more points a game

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Nov 8, 2009 12:58 PM MST reply actions  

Just arriving

and no links to watch (the feed is broken)
What are your feelings about the game? +9? It seems good

Enjoying the bright side!

by warmup on Nov 8, 2009 12:59 PM MST reply actions  

1st half was ugly

w/ 15 or 16 turnovers but much better in the 2nd half.

JRich abusing Foye or Arenas or whoever is guarding him
Amare playing a smart game
Wizards aren’t very good

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by Seth Pollack on Nov 8, 2009 1:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Thanks for the summary

If only I could watch!
Even if Wash are not so good, a back to back road win with a win over Boston is quite interesting (and new!)

Enjoying the bright side!

by warmup on Nov 8, 2009 1:03 PM MST up reply actions  

Got to love

Arenas calling out his teammates and then following that w/ a pretty crappy game

6 for 18

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by Seth Pollack on Nov 8, 2009 1:03 PM MST reply actions  

How cool is it that

Dudz can cover a guard like Arenas

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by Seth Pollack on Nov 8, 2009 1:06 PM MST reply actions  

Lou/Dud/Dragic are like the holy trinity on our bench

I consider Barbosa as our 6th starter :)

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Nov 8, 2009 1:07 PM MST up reply actions  

come on, +14 in the fourth, we are not going to sweat for it, are we?

dude is not having a great game tonight…

by zeze_999 on Nov 8, 2009 1:08 PM MST reply actions  

Aww crap come on guys, 6 point game?

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Nov 8, 2009 1:09 PM MST reply actions  

They seem like cool dudes but I can't stand their commentary

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Nov 8, 2009 1:11 PM MST up reply actions  

how many minutes left?

by Spit_Fire on Nov 8, 2009 1:11 PM MST reply actions  

where are you guys watching the game? links?

by silverddue on Nov 8, 2009 1:12 PM MST reply actions  

league pass for me

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Nov 8, 2009 1:12 PM MST up reply actions  

at home...on TV

Got beer if you want to come over

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by Seth Pollack on Nov 8, 2009 1:12 PM MST up reply actions  

AMAAAAREEEEE!

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Nov 8, 2009 1:12 PM MST reply actions  

lol does Leander know that his mic is on?

That was awkward

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Nov 8, 2009 1:13 PM MST reply actions  

Amare took off

from about a foot outside the restricted circle

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by Seth Pollack on Nov 8, 2009 1:14 PM MST reply actions  

Amare and Frye both with 10 boards..

by brian13 on Nov 8, 2009 1:16 PM MST reply actions  

They don't have Gasol

So…eh. lol

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Nov 8, 2009 1:23 PM MST up reply actions  

neither do we

"If there's nothing wrong with me, maybe there's something wrong with the universe!"

by unnamedDBacksfan on Nov 8, 2009 1:24 PM MST up reply actions  

yeah.

a W tomorrow would make this trip successful.

by CCArvin on Nov 8, 2009 1:25 PM MST up reply actions  

17 assists for Nash..

He’s amazing. Great to see both Amare and Frye in double digit rebounds.

by brian13 on Nov 8, 2009 1:25 PM MST reply actions  

early game, long trip… but they stuck in it, hustled so I’ll take it as a good win…

hill 13 boards, you just have to love him… all statrets in double figures… dragic nice outing, his sonfidence is up high, thanks AG… nash, well we all take him for granted… 17 assist, great game…

by zeze_999 on Nov 8, 2009 1:26 PM MST reply actions  

+1

I’ll take 20 turnovers with 17 assists and a W

Fanaticism is not logical

by SunDolphin on Nov 8, 2009 1:37 PM MST up reply actions  

OMG my SBNation works again. Painful

WHAT A GREAT WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I missed you guys but I didn’t miss THAT!

Fanaticism is not logical

by SunDolphin on Nov 8, 2009 1:36 PM MST reply actions  

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