Game Thread: Suns @ Knicks
by Seth Pollack on Dec 1, 2009 4:30 PM MST
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Coach Gentry
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GAME TIME BABY!!
I’ve got some errands – but I might be around a little later!!! Until then – take it away Mr.McCoy!!!
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
When it’s game time, it’s pain time…. The pain train’s commin’ Woo Wooo!!!!
by Chucko on Dec 1, 2009 5:29 PM MST up reply actions
Matt Moore's Suns - Knicks Game Preview
Get D’Antoni Some Pampers
Phoenix Suns @ New York Knicks – 7:30 pm EST
Nash vs. D’Antoni is always good times. Not in the sense that this will be a competitive — or even well-played — game. But in the sense that Mike gets to stomp around the sidelines all game while watching the NBA equivalent of his ex-wife make him look terrible. He gets to twirl his mustache while thinking "Geez, how did we all let that Suns thing get so messed up? Why didn’t we nurture Joe Johnson and keep him around? Why was Shawn Marion such a baby? And why couldn’t I get along with the front office? And, for the love of god, why did I not wait until after I found out the Bulls got Derrick Rose before signing with the Knicks? Imagine me and DRose? Imagine all the people? Imagine there’s no country? It’s easy if you try." Then he openly sobs on the sideline. Then Steve Nash gets his 23rd assist. Then D’Antoni wets himself. Then Nash laughs like only a Canadian can laugh. Eh.
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LET'S NBA!
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
My heart says this game is not as easy as we think.
My head says it’s a Suns blow out.
Stupid heart.
caution is good
GO SUNS!
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is anyone else watching this on atdhe.net?
it seems it’s still on the soccer channel
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Wow!
Going to the J-Rich alley-oop set play right off the bat. Stole that from the Mavs and Rodrigue Beaubois.
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lol it's a decent play!
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TOs can be killer
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holy crap channing frye!
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Boo
I should be at this game. I’m usually at the Knicks vs Suns games, seeing as I’m from NY. Times is rough. Anyone know of an office position available; data entry type? I’d relocate to Phx area in a heartbeat.
Amare
really starting to rack up the technicals the last few games
by ArizonaCactus on Dec 1, 2009 5:56 PM MST up reply actions
The "air punch" in the direction of the ref
That’s pretty much an automatic tech. Ball Don’t Lie, anyway.
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It was a small one
But if you go to NBA.com and check out their Video Rulebook section, they highlight that as an instant tech more or less.
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Offense too
Suns got away from their game to start. Going to the mis-match with J-Rich to often. Also, bad, bad turnovers.
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What's up with starting slow every game?
I mean, I know we’re well-conditioned, but must we always run uphill?
Anyone have a working stream?
atdhe’s isn’t working for me….working for anyone else?
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
I have a bad, bad feeling. The Suns are going to lose this game.
The Knicks are focused and intense and we just look like we couldn’t care less. All except for Nash, that is.
Relax
It’s early days, we’re still in touch, and the Kicks aren’t going to play this well for the whole game.
(actually that sounds a lot like what i said in the Hornets game)
by Chucko on Dec 1, 2009 6:08 PM MST up reply actions
They might be
already saving their legs to beat up Shaq tomorrow.
Grant Hill is totally the next MJ!!
Amare's explosiveness
He’s so quick when he has the ball. But he gets taken off the dribble so easily. I bet I could drive past dude. And I’m a 5’6 white guy with no ball handling skills.
Fugly
Doing almost everything wrong so far. Lets hope the bench will show the starters how to play the game of basketball in the 2nd half.
handout some red bulls, rockstar, flinstones vitamins...
suns look tired, maybe its the jet lag. We need a good 2nd quarter to pull this one.
Should be working on a paper
If this game continues to go downhill, I will work on that paper for sure.
Democratic reform
When it comes to appoint of Canadian Supreme Court Judges…needless to say I’d rather watch good basketball.
Wow....
Nash and I were just talking about the lack of representation from the people vis-a-vis the Canadian judiciary
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WAT?
If you are serious, then that’s awesome Stan…If it’s a joke I’m going to laugh really loud in a library and look like an idiot.
you had to ask?
I mean we are talking about the Canadian court here…I am guessing this is more love then those guys get on the internet than from their own grandkids via Facebook
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I have four papers to work on :(
procrastination ftl
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
This game is an absolute JOKE !
I’’m glad I have to leave for work right now. I don’t want to watch this anyone.
It’s pathetic !
This game is over. This is an L against an inferior team.
They are totally unmotivated ! Blame goes to Gentry.
welcome to the ugliest half of basketball so far this season. We can only go up from here.....
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did he just say "daddy like" on ATDH.NET
while zoomed in on that hot girl?!?
by dontTradeAaronNelson! on Dec 1, 2009 6:18 PM MST reply actions
ya it was during the timeout
they were talking like they din’t know they were still on the air. lol it was creeeeeeepy!
by dontTradeAaronNelson! on Dec 1, 2009 6:20 PM MST up reply actions
No audio on the LP feed.
But I wondered if something like that wasn’t going on.
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Lots of isos on offense
Even when Nash was in the game. No bueno.
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Dudley
has been over helping a lot lately and getting caught out of position…I’ve noticed that a lot this year
He’s not staying with his guy. Trying to do too much IMHO
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by Seth Pollack on Dec 1, 2009 6:23 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
That's what it is!
Believing his own hustle hype here at BSOTS.
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Holy hustle!
Jared Dudley with an awesome heads-up play crashing that missed FT and pelting the ball out of bounds off a Knick.
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its so funny hearing the announcers
when they dont know theyre on TV. I hope they say something scandalous
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lol i know...
I’ve been noticing that for a while :P
by azmanian_devil on Dec 1, 2009 6:26 PM MST up reply actions
"he's been shooting blanks all season"
wow, really?
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"I think he got one in that lower man area"
they are so quotable tonight.
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It's occasionally his downfall, but...
I love how whenever Amare gets the ball, he’s convinced he can take his man off the dribble. One of the reason he ends up with so many and-1s.
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I think it's b/c he used to be able to do that with ease pre-MF
His first step was PHENOMENAL. It’s as if the defender wasn’t even there.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
JRich
has got to be one of the best finishers in the L
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3-14
How can we be playing so bad vs a 3-14 team?
April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?
Underestimate our opposition
Same as the Hornets game.
by Chucko on Dec 1, 2009 6:38 PM MST up reply actions
The Knicks are hot
The Suns are vulnerable against hot-shooting teams. If Toronto hadn’t been ice cold from 3 point range, that would have been a similar game (except the Suns shot a lot better in that game, too.)
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Knicks are making Shots, Suns aren't
Thats pretty much why…amongst the Turnovers and lack of rebounds
by azmanian_devil on Dec 1, 2009 6:40 PM MST up reply actions
The Kicks will fall over in the 2nd half
C’mon, think about it…. they’re the KNICKS!
by Chucko on Dec 1, 2009 6:41 PM MST up reply actions
Basketball is a game of two halves.
We’ll see what this team is made of in the 2nd half.
"True glory consists of doing what deserves to be written, and writing what deserves to be read".
Channing Frye hurts us defensively. He is as much of a hinderance defensively as he is a help on the offense.
He's not defensive powerhouse, but he's not that bad.
I would prefer having him shooting the 3, and on the defensive end, than not having him at all.
by Chucko on Dec 1, 2009 6:45 PM MST up reply actions
they're getting easy baskets, we're turning the ball over.
simple as that.
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This game is too frustrating to productively post right now...
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
But I think we'll come up big in the 2nd and demolish any hopes the Knicks had/have of upsetting
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Plus, driving for 2 hours in traffic moving slower than piss down an incline has put me in a grumpy mood. have fun tonight.
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
That’s the problem, we have to force him to take more shots…. we all know he can’t do that….
by Chucko on Dec 1, 2009 6:49 PM MST up reply actions
Worst Case Scenario
That was a Murphy’s Law kind of half. The Knicks were crazy hot, especially from outside. The Suns were cold from 3 point land. Nash and Amare had 7 turnovers.
I could see them righting the ship in the second half for sure, but letting the Knicks in this game at all was bad news. Gallinari is (or is becoming) a stone cold killer. A hot Rooster is a tough cover.
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Exactly.
The Knicks are not at all playing like their normally do. Is it just me, or do the Suns encounter a lot of these “normally incompetent team is suddenly fantastic” games?
It's a product of our "defense"
Like how every point guard seems to have a career night when they have Nash guarding them….
by Chucko on Dec 1, 2009 6:56 PM MST up reply actions
I actually blame lane penetration
less on Nash and more on our bigs. Nash tries, at least, and takes charges consistently. The bigs have historically failed to cut off driving lanes.
Nash plays a weird D
He knows he’s small and not that quick. So he’ll play his man as tight as possible, but once his man gets past him, he goes straight to a zone and hopes the bigs can take care of it.
Well, that sucked!
First half to forget! No defense at all and everything falling for the Knicks…
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
Yup...
no question that the Suns can come back in this one…it’s not like the Knicks are 3-14 by accident
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I really blame some poor offensive planning for the bad start.
Instead of playing their game, the Suns went to the J-Rich iso/mis-match against Duhon right off the bat. They went with what they thought would work instead of what has been working. I think it threw off their rhythm and they’ve struggled ever since.
Look for them to come out with some serious ball movement in their half-court sets to start the 3rd. Play your game, Phoenix. It’s what got you here.
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I blame Kelly Dwyer
for calling this the Game of the Night on BDL
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love the optomism...
but the suns REALLY need to step up their game on the defensive end.
Bright Side of the Sun, where Suns basketball never looked so good.
Say this for Amare
He’s a far more effective PnR defender than Frye.
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we are playing horribly
had plenty of chances, but no ball movement, horrible turnovers, too much one on one play
by ArizonaCactus on Dec 1, 2009 7:10 PM MST up reply actions
20 points
isn’t insurmoutable, but we have to have 2 × 10 point runs, with good D.
It can happen.
by Chucko on Dec 1, 2009 7:09 PM MST reply actions
D'Antoni was over heard
ask Steve Kerr “How does my ass taste”
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no...
i assume the fourth quarter will be garbage time
by ArizonaCactus on Dec 1, 2009 7:16 PM MST up reply actions
Last time this happened
Nash said the team had gotten “Fat and Comfortable”. Guessing that happened again w/ all that NY media talking about how great they are…
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WTF
I’ve been working and just checked the score… what the hell is going on
Me too!
I’ll get mine tomorrow night though if this keeps up.
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Ha
I’m thinking of emphasizing the positive-Alando Tucker Scores, Still Suns lose….
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Wait a minute
Isn’t Gallinari the same guy that stared in Twilight? Team Danillo??
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wow
and to think I was pissed that I couldn’t make it to this game. I’d be pissed tenfold if I was there.
I'm telling you guys
Dudley’s defense has been off for several games now…he’s just not in position
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He overcommits on his man and his positioning is off but his intensity and hustle is still top notch. I’d rather that than Frye’s version of defense where he gets beaten in the post frequently and commits lazy fouls.
Dudley’s defense has been blown out of all proportion because his game has been such a breath of fresh air to us that we’ve overlooked his mistakes.
nah
I mean I agree about the hustle but last year what was impressive was how smart his positioning was on D….now it seems like he’s trying to do too much and leaving him man too easily and getting lost
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That sound you heard between quarters...
…was the Suns throwing in the towel.
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I'm out
This is horrible… gonna walk the dog instead.
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
to be honest
the refs have been very inconsistent tonight. it’s not why we are losing but i think Gentry needed to get on them a little bit
not that it’s gonna make any difference
by ArizonaCactus on Dec 1, 2009 7:35 PM MST up reply actions
Alvin Gentry!!!!
Getting on the refs…At least someone has some passion tonight….too little too late, of course
Smart man
if he gets tossed he doesn’t have to do the post game press conf
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Wow, I left the local eatery at the half
and we were down like 13. I come back and its 25, and Gentry’s getting teched. WTF.
Oh well
I blame the Coach of the Month curse.
Just like the COY curse, except this is the first known instance of it.
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best part
is there is a game tomorrow…don’t have days and days to mull over this one
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how pathetic… of all the teams NOT to score 100 points on, it’s the Knicks
Play today, win today, ‘das it.
PUT THE STARTERS BACK IN!
WE MUST REACH 100
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
No chance for a rally eh?
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
what can we get from this game?
Are there any positives to take away from this? Clark and Lopez get time and become more familiar? It makes us wanna bounce back strong against an elite team? I’m looking for something…anything.
How important are turnovers and rebounds?
The Knicks have taken 21 more shots than the Suns.
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I can't believe some Knicks fans are leaving...
…they have 3 wins all year and they don’t want to see this one out?! Crazy.
Dragic
has forgotten how to shoot over the past few days…he is ice cold
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well
to be honest I want to be pissed at the Suns for their performance, but after watching the game, NY is just hitting every freaking shot. They are playing out of their mind…. make me double check their record
embarassing.
good thing the brightsiders meet is not tonight, i would be passed out on a bar stool by now.
by Gorilla Game on Dec 1, 2009 7:47 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Lou going 1 on 3?
Probably not the kind of decision making that you want to see even in garbage time
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Frye did the same earlier
with the worst post move I think I’ve ever seen
by ArizonaCactus on Dec 1, 2009 7:51 PM MST up reply actions
Lopez does a really good job
taking his 7ft height down to a level that over guys can get a crack at him…that’s really nice of him to play down to their size
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Is there any way we can trick the Clippers into swapping him for DeAndre Jordan?
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
oooh....not sure about that
that’s at best a lateral move and its too soon to say that
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owned by a 3-14 team led by your ticked off ex-coach
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
I admit I don't know what hubris means....I'm off to dictionary.com
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You will find this picture
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by Seth Pollack on Dec 1, 2009 7:55 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
and this one
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
So?
Hubris gets you an MVP and 4 rings? Where do I sign up?
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i wonder if that is the same stare that the chick in denver got all those years ago :^)
by Gorilla Game on Dec 1, 2009 7:59 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
I don't understand but I don't need to
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Losing to D'antoni
most painful thing about this
i hold no ill-will towards D'Antoni
rejuvenated a franchise i love…we’re better off now, and i hold no ill will
by ArizonaCactus on Dec 1, 2009 7:55 PM MST up reply actions
+1
I love D’Antoni. Always will!
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Tacos yes. 100 pts no
There’s a fine line between glory and stomach pains
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99 points?
You gotta be kidding me.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Welll thanks everyone
for sticking around for this stinker….
see you back here tomorrow for a much better game
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Tucker with 14 in the 4th...
wonder if that will buy him some playing time w/ Barbosa out…
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