TUCKER SCORES 14, suns lose to 3-14 knicks.....
by Wil Cantrell on Dec 1, 2009 9:02 PM MST
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PrintThe best thing about this game was that we get to play tomorrow night and erase this mess. Of course the Phoenix Suns play the Cleveland Cavaliers and LeBron James. That won't be too easy, but the victory will be all the sweeter.
There are a lot of different reasons for this loss. I'm not going to go through it all, but I'll tell you, when you give up 71 first half points, you aren't playing good basketball.
The Knicks seemed to make nearly everything they hoisted up tonight. The trio of Al Harrington, David Lee, and Danilo Gallinari went a combined 28-46 (73 points). Even more disheartening was Jared Jeffries, who finished with a +30.
UGH
The Suns were never in this game, giving up 39 points in the first period. It was if they were playing, like, the Suns or something. I t was enough for Danil Gallinari to gush: "I think we are a great team with many offensive weapons."
Well, let's not overdo it, Danilo. The Suns helped out by shooting 23% from three point range (4-17), getting out rebounded 40-50, and turning the ball over 17 times.
Another bad sign for your team is when you allow Larry Hughes 11 points, 12 assists, 6 rebounds, and 4 steals.
The Bright Side:
- Alando Tucker showed some life in garbage time, scoring 14 points and looking pretty aggressive. He must want to stay in the NBA
- Earl Clark got some quality time and made a few shots
- ROLO went 7 and 5 in garbage time as well.
- Nash went for 20 and 8
Ah, who am kidding? There wasn't much bright about this. Losing to a 3-14 squad, losing to your former coach, not really playing inspired basketball, not making many shots, etc. I could start pointing fingers or pushing panic buttons, but I won't. Every now and again Amare Stoudemire will have as many turnovers as rebounds, Dragic will go 0 for everything, the defense will allow a team to make 14 three pointers, and collectively, simply not show up. Let's breathe here, let's accept the fact the Suns will get "Fat and happy" from time to time.
Remember, it's an 82 game season.
Oh, and, let's give a little credit to the Knicks, they did what they had to do to win.
On to Cleveland, people.....
Highlights er, lowlights:
Links
- Recap
- Posting and Toasting
- Suns vs Knicks boxscore
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SUNS: Postgame Quotes: Suns vs Knicks, December 1, 2009
We didn’t play hard tonight, we got out-played, out-hustled – [we] didn’t deserve to win. Maybe we took them [Knicks] a little lightly, but you still have to play hard. They got all the loose balls, offensive rebounds. Obviously they made some shots and you take your hats off when shots are made but it’s all the layups and hustle plays and not getting back on defense that kill you. They just played harder than we did. We’re embarrassed and have to pick ourselves up. Not a whole lot to say tonight. - Nash - I feel just like Bill Belichick felt last night. I think we were out-coached, we were out-played and we were out-hustled. It’s one of those games where I just didn’t think we played real well. I don’t want to take away anything from the Knicks because I think they played hard. I think they had a good game plan and they made shots. You can see what they’re capable of doing when they’re making shots and their offense flows well. They out-played us but it’s one game. We didn’t play real well and I’m disappointed. It’s not a very good feeling. - Gentry
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Surprising Knicks dismantle Suns- AZ Central.com
It was D'Antoni, the coach criticized so often for a lack of devotion to defense, who helped the 3-14 Knicks, who ranked 28th in the NBA in defense, become the first team to hold the Suns below 100 points this season. The Knicks demolished the Suns 126-99 at Madison Square Garden, ending Phoenix's four-game win streak. -
Knicks 126, Suns 99 - Posting and Toasting
Phoenix, meanwhile, played the part of the home team, flubbing easy plays and exerting very little effort en route to their first sub-100-point output of the season. The Knicks' best stuff and the Suns' worst just happened to coincide, and I must say it was positively exquisite.
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bad game is bad game
not much more to say about tht
this would make a win tomorrow that much more meaningful id say
???fml???
No excuses from me on this game. Total crap. That last NO game was a get out of jail free card. This is just nonesense. I am not using the old “Looking Ahead” excuse, either. Playing the Cavs may or may not be a win. This game could have been assured. Now if we lose to the Cavs, oh Jesus. There goes a ton of spots in the standings.
Fanaticism is not logical
1) Larry Hughes had 12 assists? What’s his previous career high? 4?
2) We were sorely missing LB. We would have beaten them by 50 if we had LB.
Grant Hill is totally the next MJ!!
*1) what's bad is he had 10 of those 12 in the first half
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
I don't think
we can blame this one on LB…not when the starters were getting torched for wide open layups
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what....the....hell....
no really, what the hell….
how were the wings?
any thoughts on grant, jrich, and dudley? i didnt get a chance to watch this one
and of course, im always curious to hear how amare was
The sun shines on a dogs ass sometimes..
A couple of points:
- Games like this happen every once in a while, and can happen at any time. Denver just lost to Minnesota, and even the 72-10 Bulls lost 10 games (in fact that team lost by 32 to the Knicks, one game).
- We’re not that good, talent wise. Our record, as it stands, is the result of over-achievement. Which is good, btw, and doesn’t diminish what we have.
So a little perspective is required.
For us to succeed requires us to take every game seriously and bring the effort each time, because unlike the Lakers or Celtics we’re not burdened with an over-abundance of natural ability that can bail us out of tricky situations.
Furthermore, we need to develop that mean streak, and mess these guys up when they return to visit us.
"True glory consists of doing what deserves to be written, and writing what deserves to be read".
by Pliny the Elder on Dec 1, 2009 10:57 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
This is perspective
We just blew a game like this the other week against New Orleans. One of these games once in a while is okay. That’s what I was saying then. But now, I feel like most of you guys felt after the NO game; which was my one get out of jail free card. I’m embarassed.
Fanaticism is not logical
Amare keeps on being a mistery
I have just taken a look at his carrer stats on rebounding… not counting that 3-game season, in his first 6 seasons he was always around 9 rbpg… last year he was on 8.1 and this year to ridicilous low 6.8… I really dont get it with this guy and his rebounding… yes, he was playing center position most of thos years but in 02-03 and 03-04, as well as 07-08 he was playing lot of time on pf position, so that cannot be the sole reason…
and re: game, I was stunned when I saw the score… this is embarrassing
Yeah...it makes me sad.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
that was...
unexpected…
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"There were arms coming from everywhere, and I knew they weren’t going for the ball," Miller said. "I was just trying to get [the shot] up before they called some crap like ‘on the ground.’ "
"What do you want me to do?" Wright asked. "Do you want me to Derek Fisher him?"
"Give them some fucking credit, i mean for real." Jackson said.
"I just fell on my face for no reason," Bryant deadpanned. "I'm a klutz."
"Fucking right i'm preachin' it!" Carlisle replied.
"Rough life, isn't it. It's tough all over, isn't it." Smith chuckled.
" Let the Golden Child do that, or one of the NBA Without Border kids do that, it's all fine and dandy." -- Wallace on Pierce dunking = taunting. Sheed also bought some words about flopping in the NBA (for the low price of just 30,000 $). "They've got to know that he's a [darn] flopper. That's all Turkododo do."
Mutombo, Ewing and Yao at the restaurant...
MUTOMBO: "The chicken is the bomb."
EWING: [Rubbing belly] "I gotta go work out tonight. I'm full. You got a treadmill for me?"
YAO: " Leave your car keys here and run home. I'll give you the keys tomorrow."
I agree from above
No freaking excuse. This is the Knicks. This team cannot afford to look ahead and take anyone lightly, and that is obvious what happen here.
You have to guard in this league and I don’t care who it is. Dragic needs to start showing some balls. His inconsistent play is not helping.
Now off to Cleveland where they better step up.
I hope Gentry got into some ass last night.
That's just freaking hilarious....
Way to cut down Dragic. And yeah, I hope Gentry chewed out someone’s ass yesterday as well.
What the hell is right. And now they have to play Cleveland. Perhaps it’s a little soon, but I’m getting the panic button ready. Losing to the Knicks just on the eve of a very difficult month? Just like the ESPN Football panel says: Come on man!
Geo
Panic really?
We have been talking on this board for months now about how this team will go no where. How they will have let downs….
Well it happened and we are surprised? That’s the most ridiculous part. You can’t win them all (although you should try which we clearly did not). No need for panic. Just get back out there and do what we do.
TO THE NBA - " Yeah, you have created a rift within me ; Now there have been ; several complications ; that have left me feeling nothing ; I might say, you were ; wrong to take it from me ; Left me feeling nothing " - Disturbed, "Numb"
You can't panic on a team that has overachieved. I don't think.
I’m greatful for how the Suns have played, and have been living a high, but now I think I’m gonna be low for a while after this Knick’s game, becasue I don’t think we beat Cleveland tonight. But there’s really nothing to panic about. You can’t “lose” something you never had to begin with. But I do expect this team to compete. It’s when they don’t that I lose interest in them. I can deal with a team losing games. No team should have be under estimated, and that’s why even the worst teams can beat the best on any given night. But when you don’t compete %*#(&@#$
Fanaticism is not logical
Exactly.
As long as the Suns are pissed off about this game, then something positive will have come out of it.
Let’s be clear, we only have one player, right now, capable of playing at an superstar level, and that’s Nash. Some of our players are good, and the rest are decent or inexperienced.
Hopefully, everyone else will have learned that to have to bring it all game, every game, to win.
"True glory consists of doing what deserves to be written, and writing what deserves to be read".
by Pliny the Elder on Dec 2, 2009 9:05 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I am not at panic level either
I just hate to see this team come out with poor effort. and give a game away. Suns really do have a shot of being a high seed in the conference. Just don’t piss away games.
I hope they regroup and put a good effort on the floor tonight.
worst case
they go .500 on the road trip
Gentry has said all along that if you win 30 games at home and .500 on the road you are going to be right there at the end…
yes it sucks but at least this year we can be confident that the coaches and team is even more pissed then we are…that wasn’t true last year and I am not sure it was true even in the years before that
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Seems to me
That the Suns have played their best ball when they are in crunch time and have a lot of games on the schedule. For this one they had some time off to relax and that is not a good thing for us. For one, not all of our guys are capable of pulling themselves out of a funk. I would put dragic and hill in this category, maybe even JRich. When those guys are down, they stay down. So when the rest of the team is not producing they dont have the ability to get out there are produce by sheer force of will like I think Nash does.
My prediction? We go into Cleveland tonight and put them on the ropes. 10pt victory.
Go read a book!
Based on how we got beat by bigger teams so far.
And aside from let downs…. is our biggest weakness… I don’t see this playing out well in Cleveland tonight. But as we just have seen anything is possible.
TO THE NBA - " Yeah, you have created a rift within me ; Now there have been ; several complications ; that have left me feeling nothing ; I might say, you were ; wrong to take it from me ; Left me feeling nothing " - Disturbed, "Numb"
or...perhaps
we know exactly how to exploit Shaq’s defensive weaknesses and we tear them apart…just saying
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I've read in a couple of places ...
And actually was thinking this to myself on the way to work: but last night’s game felt like some sort of gift the Suns gave to D’Antoni. I know that seems strange and illogical, but so does losing to the n’er-do-well Knicks.
I wish that were the case...
that yesterday’s loss was some twisted way to show appreciation… by stinking it up on the court and letting the 3-14 team demolish your ‘top-of-the-League’ Suns in order to inject some confidence and maybe spark a fire under a team of 1 season zombies. Yes, sounds like a cool plan to me – merry Christmas captain D’Antoni… and by the post game comments it sounds like the plan worked exactly according to plan:
Danilo Galinari said: “I think we are a great team with many offensive weapons.”
And on the other end of things Steve Nash almost sarcastically posts on his twitter.. “Wow! Got blasted by the knicks 2nite. Not easy when NYC is ur summer hmtwn.I’m sure I’m gonna hear it in the streets next summer! Easy peeps”
Oh how I would love for this loss to be de proposito – but somehow even for my wild imagination that’s a stretch. Crappy loss. Period. Bring on the Cavs.
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
and circle
March 26th on your calendar when the Knicks come to Phx
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by Seth Pollack on Dec 2, 2009 10:14 AM MST up reply actions
Agree. Crappy Loss. No if's ands or buts...
Historically we have played well in New York in the Nash era. This loss was so bad because it seems like were never mentally in the game. It’s like someone said — we’re saving our legs for the Cavs. The problem now is that even if you come out focused and with energy against LeBron and Co. there is still a very good chance you lose. Now you’ve got a 2 game losing streak and looking at possibly losing 3 out of 4 with the Lakers coming on Sunday. A good road trip turns into a sub-standard and disappointing 2-2 road trip. THAT is why this lose was so infuriating.
only infuriating
b/c we’ve let our expectations change
This season is going to be a roller coaster. The team over performed out of the gate and that’s great but it is the same roster we had before the season started.
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by Seth Pollack on Dec 2, 2009 10:55 AM MST up reply actions
The Suns are bad at defense
True story: The Suns held the Knicks to 39% shooting in the 4th quarter. While it was garbage time, I throw this out there only to demonstrate that 1 quarter of “good” defense doesn’t matter if they don’t take care of business the other 3.
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