Recap: It's Not Robbery If You Give It Away; Nuggets 105, Suns 99
by Mike Lisboa on Dec 13, 2009 9:50 AM MST
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Sorry this didn't get published until the morning... I fell asleep re-watching the game last night before publishing.
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At some point down the road, the Suns will probably look back on this loss and the Mavericks loss as two games they'd like to have back. Phoenix wasn't supposed to compete in this game, much less have a shot at winning, coming off a grueling win against the Orlando Magic last night. But someone forgot to tell Steve Nash.
1st Half
Nash hit his first 5 shots to help the Suns to an early 13-5 lead. He looked like a man possessed. The Suns would not roll over on the 2nd night of this particular back to back. However, the early momentum did not last long as Carmelo Anthony and the Nuggets found their shooting touch, and eventually took 16-15 lead halfway through the quarter. From then on, the rest of the period was a back and forth dogfight resulting in a 29-26 Nugget lead. Nash and Amare Stoudemire accounted for nearly all the Suns 1st quarter points, but the real story might have been Robin Lopez' 3 fouls in just under 4 minutes of play.
After picking up 5 fouls in 5 minutes against the Magic, Robin proceeded to melt down defensively again, picking up all 3 of his fouls in quick succession in 1 quarter. It might have been the best thing to happen to the Suns in the first quarter as it allowed Lou Amundson to come off the bench and log some heavy minutes. Lou was everywhere in the 2nd quarter, starting things off with a block on the first play of the quarter.
The Suns started the 2nd quarter with a line-up of Goran Dragic, Jared Dudley, Grant Hill, Lou Amundson and Channing Frye and proceeded to go on a 19-2 run. Everything went the Suns' way during this stretch. Dragic was aggressive going to the hoop on one end and playing fearless defense on Ty Lawson at the other. Amundson was a beast on the boards, tipping balls back and pulling down everything in sight. Channing Frye was hitting from range and even drawing contact driving to the hoop.
Defensively, the Suns showed active hands, poking, prodding, blocking and tipping balls that Denver brought into the paint. Aggressiveness and activity were the Suns' hallmarks in the second quarter and they were rewarded. (It also didn't hurt that what open looks the Nuggets did get weren't falling.) The Nuggets did not score a field goal in the first 5:30 of the quarter. Nash checked back in around the 5 minute mark and continued his hot shooting. 1 minute later, the Suns had their largest lead of the game at 52-35. There was so much frustration with how the game was going for Denver that both Carmelo Anthony and George Karl received technical fouls complaining about the officiating. That shoe would soon enough be on the other foot.
This would be their high water mark as they shot 55% for the quarter while holding the Nuggets to 39% shooting and forcing 8 turnovers. Lou Amundson alone finished the 2nd with 8 points, 8 rebounds, 2 steals and 2 blocks. Grant Hill defended Carmelo Anthony as well as anyone this season in the first half, holding him to 12 points on 4-12 shooting. The Suns would take a 60-47 lead into halftime on the strength of this performance.
[Note by Mike Lisboa, 12/13/09 9:10 AM PST ]
I don't know how I forgot to mention this: This might have been the best quarter of basketball the Suns have played all year. It was something to behold.
2nd Half
In the 3rd quarter the wheels came off for the Suns. Chauncey Billups and Melo both found their stroke scoring 10 points each. The Suns for their part went ice cold, shooting 36% and turning the ball over 6 times (after only committing 8 turnovers in the first half). While Steve Nash continued his blistering offense going 3-4 from the field, the rest of the Suns were a paltry 3-11. The Nuggets were far more aggressive in the 3rd quarter, slashing and cutting to the hoop and drawing contact. They almost matched the Suns run from the 2nd quarter with an 18-2 run of their own to cut the Suns lead to 1 point. The Suns had lead by as much as 17 early in the quarter.
The 4th quarter was a back and forth affair and the Suns had a chance right down to the wire. The Suns traded baskets with the Nuggets for the first 5 minutes of the 4th quarter until the Suns had a disastrous stretch of game where they turned it over on 3 consecutive trips down the floor. 2 of those turnovers were offensive fouls on Amare Stoudemire, also his 4th and 5th fouls for the game. Turnovers played a large part in the Suns' unraveling. They had 6 in the 4th quarter and 20 for the game. The Suns actually shot a scorching 69% in the 4th but had 6 fewer shots than the Nuggets due to turnovers and offensive rebounds (the Nuggets had 15 for the game, 6 in the 4th quarter).
With just under 4 minutes left, the Nuggets began to assert control. After yet another Suns turnover on a bad pass from Channing Frye to Lou Amundson, Carmelo Anthony came down and scored on a put-back of his own miss to put the Nuggets up 94-92. On the ensuing 4 possessions Steve Nash and Chauncey Billups put on a clinic in clutch, with Nash hitting a 3-ball and a jumper in the lane, while Mr. Big Shot hit a pair of 3s of his own to give the Nuggets a 100-97 lead. On the next trip down, Kenyon Martin got Nash on a switch and blocked his fadeaway attempt. On the ensuing Nuggets' possession with 1:36 to go, Billups missed a long jumper, but drew a blocking foul on Grant Hill after Denver collected the offensive rebound. He went 1 of 2 at the line to give the Nugs a 4 point lead with 1:18.
After Grant Hill nearly turned the ball over on an inbound pass a few seconds later, Nash layed in a finger-roll with 1:00 to go to pull the Suns within 2 points. Grant Hill force a Carmelo miss to get the Suns the ball back with 30 seconds to go.
Controversy!
With the Suns trailing by 2, on what would be the Suns' final meaningful possession, Steve Nash found himself covered by Nene at the arc. Nash drove left, had some arm-to-arm contact with Nene and had his lay-up attempt blocked by the Brazilian center. No foul was called on the play despite the obvious contact. What happened next truly doomed the Suns. After the miss, Carmelo Anthony rebounded the ball with 7.8 seconds left on the game clock. The nearest Sun to Anthony was Steve Nash. Angry about the non-call and complaining to the official underneath the basket, Nash did not turn and foul Anthony. Amare Stoudemire was the 2nd closest and seemed to not understand the need to foul until Anthony had already gotten around him. Jared Dudley, he of the high basketball IQ, came flying in to commit the foul, but overpursued and got screened away from Melo, allowing Anthony to get downcourt where he was eventually fouled by Channing Frye after running the clock down to 2.0 seconds.
At this point, the Suns were down by 2 with a career 80% free throw shooter going to the line. Standard practice here is to hope he misses 1 of 2 and do what you can with the remaining 2 seconds on the clock. Except the Suns never got the chance. Alvin Gentry went ballistic on the referees, getting ejected from the game. 2 technical free throws plus 2 free throws for the foul later and the Suns are down by 6 with not even a prayer of a chance at a last second shot.
My Take
To blame the Suns' loss on poor officiating at the end of the game is to ignore the several other glaring holes in the Suns' game in the second half: giving up 10 offensive rebounds, turning the ball over 12 times, scoring only 39 points while giving up 58. It also ignores how much better Denver played in the second half: only 3 turnovers, 8 steals, and a 20-13 rebounding edge. Sure, the Nuggets got to the line 15 more times than the Suns, but that was to be expected. The Nuggets are hands-down the most aggressive and effective team in the NBA at getting to the line, with a 40.8% Free Throw Rate (ratio of number of free throws made to number of field goals attempted). The Suns, by contrast, are in the middle of the pack in the NBA, with a 29.6% rate, which makes sense given the Suns' reliance on jumpers and 3 pointers.
These are the the things that the players on both teams have control over by how they play the game. They cannot control how and when the whistle does and does not blow. All they can do is execute and hope for the best. Last night, the Suns problems with execution were the same as they have been all season: giving up too many offensive rebounds and turnovers coupled with weak defensive rotations (J.R. Smith goes 0-8? Bullet dodged.). These are things that can be fixed and worked on and improved upon. So can in-game awareness of things like getting one's toes behind the line on a 3-pointer (see below in "Notes"). If Nash and Frye do that over the course of the game, the Suns are up by 1 when Nash makes his fateful drive. If, instead of wondering about the non-call, Nash or Amare makes a move to foul Carmelo Anthony, maybe the Suns have a shot at getting the ball back with 5-7 seconds left on the clock instead of 2. If Gentry doesn't lose his cool, if Amare takes better care of the ball, if J-Rich hits that shot, etc.
The Suns had ample opportunities to win this game even with a bad call or two going against them. Is NBA refereeing inconsistent and frustrating? Sometimes. Should it be more transparent and are reforms necessary? Definitely. Is it an over-riding factor in determining the outcome of games? Very, very rarely. And last night was not one of those times.
Random Notes
- So much for bigger or longer defenders slowing down Steve Nash: 11-17 FG, 28 points and 7 assists with only 2 turnovers. I think the longer defenders do disrupt his ability to share the ball but it helps if the people he's passing it to make their shots, too.
- Amare Stoudemire seems to be struggling to figure out when to take the jumper and when to take it to the hole. In the 3rd quarter when Denver was at the tail end of their big run, he made a pair of nice moves to the bucket, one that resulted in a score and the other in a trip to the line. However, his 7 turnovers for the game may make him a little gunshy about puttling the ball on the floor in the future.
- For a team that likes to live and die by the 3 ball, the Suns did a poor job of making sure their feet were behind the line last night. 3 potential 3-pointers were ruled 2-pointers upon official review because of toes on the line. 1 by Nash, 2 by Frye.
- It was nice to see Channing Frye have a strong offensive showing on the road and on the second night of a back to back.
- Jason Richardson on the other hand continues to struggle. Over the last 10 games, J-Rich is shooting only 45.1% on is field goals and 33.3% from 3 point land. Over the last 5, it's even worse with 41.4 FG% and 25.0 3PT%.
- Goran Dragic had a solid night with 4 points, 4 assists and a steal with only one turnover leading the 2nd unit as well as containing Ty Lawson (2 points, 1 assist, 2 turnovers, -18 for the game). Point guards were not the problem for the Suns last night.
- Jared Dudley's 3 point shooting continues to impress. After going 2-3 from downtown last night, he leads the Suns, hitting 48.8% of his shots behind the arc.
- If nothing else, the Suns showed they CAN be competitive against tough competition on the second night of back-to-backs when the spirit moves them. Nash, Hill, and Stoudemire all logged over 34 minutes in last night's game (with Grant Hill leading all Suns with 42:45).
- Get ready for some congestion downtown: 8 of the Suns' next 10 games are at home... finally!
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Thanks for a great recap!
I was not able to see the game last night. I’ll stop by and read the comments on the game thread. Must have been really cool to be there. It hurts that we were really in control of this game and we lost it. Could have been a great boost if they had managed to win.
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The comments were awesome!
Our commentariat was blowing up all game long. The game thread should make for some fun reading to anyone who couldn’t watch the game or participate.
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by Mike Lisboa on Dec 13, 2009 10:06 AM MST up reply actions
I got home just in time to see the last seconds of the first half
I was stoked, I thought he’d maintain the lead and win, not by 17, but at least by five or six. That didn’t happen. Whether they weren’t focused, or were too tired to keep battling, the Suns gave up a win that should have been in the bag. We keep on play two quarters of basketball every game, when four are demanded. Whether it’s because of a bad first quarter, second, third, or fourth, we keep on giving away games.
BUT! Denver is a good team and they needed every ounce of their talent to beat us. It’s no moral victory for Phoenix, but I like that we can match up with the best of the conference not named the Lakers. And we’re getting better at these back to backs.
Fanaticism is not logical
Looooouuuuuuuu!!!!
12pts on 6-7 shooting, 11 boards, 4 blocks, 2 steals, 2 assists, and a +12 on the court (the highest of any sun)
Extend the man ASAP!
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Seriously?
I mean, I like Lou. And he definitely played well. But this has been his only good game of the year. Don’t extend a guy that only produces 1 game out of 10.
Go read a book!
seriously?
did he get matching minutes in these other games? I don’t think so…and you can’t deny the hustle and energy Lou always delivers…I’m not saying he should start…I am curious what people here think though about Lou…is he a possible future starter…etc?
Lou can't start for a good team
until he can shoot consistently
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by Seth Pollack on Dec 13, 2009 4:50 PM MST up reply actions
Only good game this season?
I would say Lou has good games more often than not. Obviously he’s not a huge offensive threat but he always brings effort and hustle every game. He does all the dirty work when he’s out there.
I get it...
hustle is a good thing. I wont deny it. Players that have a ton of hustle have a vital spot on this team and in this league. But I am measuring a “good” game on traditional tangible standards since that is what “be-the-ball” apparently wants to do. (oh and you do it too right below see?) By those standards Lou would not and should not start. He should be signed and play for a team no doubt, but to talk extensions because the guy has one really good game is not smart.
Go read a book!
reluctantly, i agree with you about Gentry.
i think what Gentry did was admirable and if I were on his team I would respect him for standing up for the team like that. However, when it comes down to it it is more important to stay focused on the game itself and the things you are capable of controlling. Part of “executing” is executing even when calls aren’t going your way. Hopefully this is a lesson learned now, early in the season, that we can take with us to the playoffs (lets make the playoffs wooo!)
Good recap
And, again, I get what you are saying and what you are trying to do. The Suns have control over what they can do, the shots they take and the attitude that they have. Yet officiating (especially the kind like last night) can affect a game in serious ways. The Nuggets fans will say that the Suns got all the calls in the first half and it finally “evened out” in the second half. That we shouldn’t complain about calls because, in the end, the refs blew calls on both sides. That may or may not be true, but it really doesn’t matter if the refs got calls wrong on both sides. It matters WHEN the refs got calls wrong. To get a huge no-call on a game tying drive to the hoop when the defense is CLEARLY lopsided in terms of size is unconscionable. The refs are trained to look for such lopsidedness and find the foul. Nash was TRYING to get a foul and the shot. He leaned into Nene on purpose to get the call. The refs know this. It happens all the time. They expect it. For them not to call it, especially when the defender is bigger and clearly got beat to the rim (requiring, in most situations, a foul) is absolutely ludicrous.
Say all you want about “fairness” of the calls and how it “evened out” in the end. Talk about how the Suns should have done better down the stretch and should have had more success rebounding and covering the 3-ball. But the bottom line is that when the Suns play normal, everyday basketball expecting what every other team gets in a particular situation they get screwed. You put that ball in Anthony’s hands in the exact opposite situation and he is going get the call every single time. Same thing with DWade, CP3, Kobe, Tony Parker, Brandon Roy and a slew of others. Put it in Nash’s hands?….
Piss poor….
Go read a book!
Just finished watching the game
Really nothing more to add other than I don’t have a problem with that last no-call. Last year’s no call on Grant in Denver was worse.
The problem was the inconsistency. Anderson got away with flying in for the block and making a ton of body contact and those weren’t called and yet Robin bumps someone and gets the whistle every time. Both of Amare’s 4th quarter offensive fouls were flops as well.
Obviously, it was the turnovers that did the Suns in and the stagnant offense and general lack of energy in the 3rd quarter but damn is it frustrating to watch a game when the refs aren’t calling the same game going both ways.
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hmmm
I didn’t see it…I was just going off the comments on this blog and the announcers reactions..
Trying to take positive out of the loss…great to hear Mike say that the second quarter was maybe as fine as they’ve played!
I don't think it was a matter of calling it the same "both ways"
It was more a matter of calling it the same any way. There were inconsistencies all over the place (both Amare and either J-Rich or Dudley benefited from early no-calls when jumping into a shooter, and there was the bizarre blocking call on Billups when Amare clearly hooked him in the 4th). The bottom line for me is that the Suns played well enough to win this game, but did not execute well enough to blame this loss on anyone other than themselves.
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right...calling it the same
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by Seth Pollack on Dec 13, 2009 4:51 PM MST up reply actions
and btw
I really thought this might be a moral victory game given the circumstances. Nash was freaking incredible. The Nuggets did play like crap to start the game though but at least our guys played well for three quarters or so…that’s something
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by Seth Pollack on Dec 13, 2009 4:52 PM MST up reply actions
I called it in my preview
Denver wins 122-100 and the Suns get amoraltaco victory.
OK, the numbers were off considerably, but you get the picture.
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more importantly
I got my tacos
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by Seth Pollack on Dec 13, 2009 5:17 PM MST up reply actions
I'm considering moving back to Phoenix,
if only for the remaining 50-odd free meals from Jack In the The Box.
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or
they also make good pavers if you need a walkway or something
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by Seth Pollack on Dec 13, 2009 5:48 PM MST up reply actions
with a days rest, the Suns win this game.
With the altitude in their favor, the Nuggets have to have one of the 3 best home-court advantages in the league (Lakers + Utah being the other two).
This kind of scheduling is what drives me nuts about the NBA front-office. It’s hard enough to compete in Denver, with rest, but when you have to travel, and the Nugs get their rest, that’s as close to a gimme as you’ll get in the NBA.
Actually, the 1st Lakers game this season was a bigger travesty of scheduling. We play our 4th game in 5 nights, on the road, and the Lakers get 3 days of rest. Very few teams win the 4th game in 5 nights, especially on the road, and if the other team gets rest, there’s no chance whatsoever of winning.
It might be just me being a little paranoid, but the way these things shake out always seem to favor the opposition and not us, and imho it’s fundamentally unfair.
The same kind of thing happened to us, during the 05-06 playoffs, where we ended up playing a stretch of 12 games in 23 days (last 6 games of Lakers series + 1st 6 of Clippers series), so that by the time we got to the WCF (where we played 6 games in 11 days, 7 in 13 if you include the last Clippers game.), we were completely spent.
To be fair, Dallas also played 7 in 13, through the WCF, but were more rested, up to that point, since they had at least a couple of additional rest days in their 1st two rounds (not including the rest they had earned from finishing out their 1st round series early).
With even a little rest, Raja doesn’t get injured, and that makes all the difference, imho
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by Pliny the Elder on Dec 13, 2009 6:47 PM MST reply actions
true dat... but..
the scheduling vis a vis the Magic worked less in our favor than did the scheduling vs Denver did for them, because playing at altitude, when you haven’t adjusted is far harder to do.
Hell, just playing in Denver, at that altitude, when you’re not used to it, even with rest, is bad enough.
To be honest, though, it was the scheduling for the Lakers game that really ticked me off, and if it had been reserved, you can bet your ass Phil Jackson would have been screaming bloody blue murder.
wrt Orlando, they first got to play the Utah game, in SLC which is at altitude, and then played us, rather than the other way around. And even though they lost, in SLC, they had a fairer chance to compete against the Jazz, by virtue of being able to acclimatize for one day. And it’s much easier to come down from altitude, than to go up to it, btw, which is why many athletes train at altitude.
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by Pliny the Elder on Dec 14, 2009 10:54 PM MST up reply actions
^^ reserved == reversed
oops.. dyslexia attack..
"True glory consists of doing what deserves to be written, and writing what deserves to be read".
by Pliny the Elder on Dec 14, 2009 10:55 PM MST up reply actions
All of Denver's players except Billups are from regions with very low elevations
The Nuggets players get annoyed by the altitude too because of how much time in the season they spend in low elevation places. But I digress.
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redunkulous.
I appreciate the work Mike but I would be dishonest if I agreed with your sentiment regarding the officiating not being the reason we lost this game, and since Christmas is so close I don’t want Santa’s Elves reporting to the North Pole that they heard lies from me.
Captain obvious says: The game changed after half-time – but NOT entirely because we went a little cold and they went a little hot (Elite teams make runs – that what they do, that doesn’t surprise anybody) – but because the refs most definitely had a huddle in which they agreed that they would blow the whistle for the Nuggets in the 2nd half. George Karl worked them. He played them. And they drooled along like his little marionettes up until the [warning – sarcasm] most definitely and obviously correct no-call on Nash to end the game.
You want to talk about turnovers? Sure there were a couple of pad passes here and there – but no calls or bad calls (especially the two consecutive [warning – NO sarcasm] most definitely and obviously not offensive fouls called on STAT that took our star out of the game and crapped all over any momentum the suns could’ve had midway through the 4th) are the reason for the higher than usual turnover #. I can count at least 6 BAD calls that resulted in a Suns turnover in the 2nd half – that would have left us with 6 more scoring opportunities and a very normal 14 turnovers for the night (that’s what the Nuggets ended up with).
You want to talk about O.Rebounds in the 4th? Just take a look at the box score – how many free throws did Lou Amundson take? OH THAT’S RIGHT – 0, ZERO, zilch, nada. What about JD? HOORAY he went to the line once and made his 2 baskets…. BUT THE DEFENSIVE STUD WAS SLAPPED WITH 5 FOULS… along with 3 other Suns… But it’s all good they’re just the hustle guys on the team – they’re allowed to be pushed/pulled/held down/slapped/piggyback ridden anytime he goes for a board, you don’t give the hustle guys the obvious calls like that especially ones that might affect the game… right? OH THAT’S RIGHT, Chris Anderson – the Nuggets hustle guy…. yeah he went to the line 4 times for 8 attempts, 7 of which he netted.
Nash’s final drive to tie? I like what Gentry said…
"I didn’t see anything,‘’ said Gentry, whose team blew a 17-point second-half lead. "They didn’t call a foul so obviously it wasn’t a foul. I didn’t see anything. I’m not giving them my money. So, no, I didn’t see anything. It was a great call. No call. That’s fine.’’
The officiating was unbearable. We’re not the only team complaining – and I think it’s okay to complain (I am a fanatic… we do things like this).
The officiating is just as much a part of the game as are any other contributing factors (execution – focus – coaching – talent – conditioning – health – injury – state of mind – confidence – etc. ), and as such it has the ability to influence the game. In the NBA we should change the team record line to read WINS, LOSSES, and WASHES DUE TO OFFICIATING… this game goes in the latter column in case you didn’t read my post.
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
by Eutychus on Dec 13, 2009 10:43 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
I agree.
Like I said. … If somebody tells me… “Hey I’m an NBA official and I can tell you whos going to win at an 80% clip (read the FBI reports) based on things I know about relationships/individuals/circumstances.” I’m going to say “well… that sounds like wrestling? Doesn’t it?”
I don’t care what these guys say… I’m not a going to jump in line and say moo cow all the way to slaughter house. I will stand up and say the NBA has to make changes in its officiating. Nearly every other sport has done so. Why are they still covered in shroud?
TO THE NBA - " Yeah, you have created a rift within me ; Now there have been ; several complications ; that have left me feeling nothing ; I might say, you were ; wrong to take it from me ; Left me feeling nothing " - Disturbed, "Numb"
At this point why have a rule book?
We should just call it jungle ball and play it outside on a cement court with no net.
TO THE NBA - " Yeah, you have created a rift within me ; Now there have been ; several complications ; that have left me feeling nothing ; I might say, you were ; wrong to take it from me ; Left me feeling nothing " - Disturbed, "Numb"
This is what I don't understand at all
Except the Suns never got the chance. Alvin Gentry went ballistic on the referees, getting ejected from the game. 2 technical free throws plus 2 free throws for the foul later and the Suns are down by 6 with not even a prayer of a chance at a last second shot.
Professional coaches (and players) need to keep their emotions under control if it gives them a slim chance of winning…….
Whats up doc?
Great Teams are given calls
Professional referees (and owners) need to keep their emotions under control and stop acting out revenge fantasies, and “entertainment” sports mentality. I want real competition. If I want sports entertainment I’ll watch pro wrestling.
by Grey_Hound on Dec 14, 2009 1:27 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Whatever be the referees intentions, the fact of the matter is that the call went against you….Giving away one (and infinitely more so TWO!) free points to the other team, instead of dealing with it, is atrocious! (IMHO)
Whats up doc?
And
Do you have a big brother? Or little brother…. Ever play a game where you or he makes up the rules?
That’s what happens in the NBA… My three year old calls it “I win”.
TO THE NBA - " Yeah, you have created a rift within me ; Now there have been ; several complications ; that have left me feeling nothing ; I might say, you were ; wrong to take it from me ; Left me feeling nothing " - Disturbed, "Numb"
What part of the rule book explains
how is a great team and what calls to give them? I don’t remember reading that anywhere.
TO THE NBA - " Yeah, you have created a rift within me ; Now there have been ; several complications ; that have left me feeling nothing ; I might say, you were ; wrong to take it from me ; Left me feeling nothing " - Disturbed, "Numb"
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