Preview: Suns @Trail Blazers - Something's Got to Give
The Blazers are missing the following due to injury:
- Greg Oden
- Rudy Fernandez
- Travis Outlaw
- Nic Batum
- Jeff Pendergraph (who would be playing right now w/ Outlaw and Oden out)
- Patty Mills (who would not be playing now)
The Suns are 0-16 on TNT
Something's got to give
Busy day today with a holiday party and some other stuff so you can a) suffer through this abbreviated preview b) write your own and we will reprise the Preview Mash-up c) suck it sucker and go read someone else's preview
Key Match-ups
There's two match-ups I am really interested in for this game.
Amare vs Aldridge
LMA has reportedly struggled this season early as the entire Blazers team floundered about trying to figure out what to do with Andre Miller and Greg Oden's sudden need for touches in the post. LMA seemed lost.
Recently though he's been playing much better but so has Amare who is averaging 10.4 rebounds per game in December.
In theory this match-up is a wash production-wise and if that's the case the Suns should win the game.
Dragic vs Bayless
This one is just plain fun. Both kids are playing well right now and both are explosive athletes with the edge there obviously going to Bayless. But Dragic seems to be the better all around basketball player who is by far the better outside shooter. Bayless is hyper-aggressive at getting to the rim and plays a lot like Barbosa.
Without Barbosa in uniform to counter Jareeryddd this task will fall on Goran. LB would have tried to match Bayless shot for shot. Dragic will try and stay in front of him and use his length and defensive tenacity to slow the kid down.
I don't think this match-up will turn the tide of the game, but I am looking forward to it.
Oh, and still no word if Richardson will play. It doesn't look good though and without him playing at a high-level it is going to be next to impossible to contain Roy. Ruh, roh..
[Note by Phoenix Stan, 12/17/09 10:19 AM MST ]
More time. More preview...
First a word from my favorite preacher/blogger, Dave from Blazers Edge who can string words together with the best of them. Here's what he has to say about the greatest Canadian point guard evah!
...Steve Nash is right behind with 18 per game, 53% shooting, 45.6% three-point shooting, 94% foul shooting, ran-the-table-again pool shooting, -18 handicap golf shooting, "one trick shot to bag my entire limit" duck shooting, "that guy on the Dos Equis commercials is only the second most interesting man" breeze shooting, oh...and 11.2 assists per game besides.
But since we are praising Dave I think it is only fair and balanced that we nitpick as well.
Dave, Lou Amundson is not a good shooter but he will bang with the best of them. He might give up 30 - 700 lbs to the Vanilla Gorilla but he won't be out-worked. Let's just hope that mild ankle sprain doesn't bother him. Something tells me it won't.
Oh and Dave, the Phoenix Suns are 12th in the league in defensive rebounding. I realize the Blazers are a great offensive rebounding team and in the past have killed the Suns in that department but without Oden, I would not expect too much advantage in that department. The Suns held the Magic to 10 second chance points and had 12 of their own.
And btw, Amare had 14 rebounds against Tim Duncan and the Spurs. No offense, Joel but you sir are no Tim Duncan.
The one point that Dave got right /sarcasm/ was about tempo. The Blazers operate at glacial speed holding down 30th place in a 30 horse race in the Pace Factor. That's slow.
While the Suns did manage to trick the Blazers into an up-paced game in the Rose Garden last season and and the Blazer did win said game, it took 52 points by Brandon Roy to make that happen. What are the chance of that happening again?
Did I mention this game is on TNT where the Suns are 0-16? I think that puts the odds of Roy going ballistic at about 2:1.
[Note by Phoenix Stan, 12/17/09 11:00 AM MST ]
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Game Links
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RealGM: Basketball Wiretap Archives: Serbian Coach Helps With Dragic's Shot
"My coach from Serbia has been in town for the last four days, and we worked a lot on my shot," Dragic said. "Before when I shot, my arch was not so high. Today it felt great. The arch was higher." -
Suns get chance to end TNT curse
"It's bizarre," Kerr said. "What are the chances of losing 16 in a row? I know the competition's tougher but it's not like we don't beat good teams on ESPN. There's no explanation. "Let's pin it on Charles. He brings that negative vibe all the time."
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Good work!
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
+1
love kerr’s statement in fun about barkley
by be-the-ball on Dec 17, 2009 10:13 AM MST up reply actions
Roy goes for 50 again
Also watch Steve Blake
April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?
as long as we hold the rest of the team to a collective 40 pts...
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Never fear Bender is here
Gary Bender will bring the juice – he’s going to break the curse
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
I bring the kindling
Don’t get me wrong with what you’re about to see – I feel for Oden and the Blazers… But man I called it during the preseason when we beat Portland

Come on boys… don’t fail me now – and L-TrainFTW!, I most definitely think our bench is deeper and better than yours.
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
FROSTY WILL DESTROY BAYLESS.
And with JRich possibly not playing I’m pretty sure The Dragon should be able to hold his own on Roy – a combo of Dudley and Dragic or even Hill too on Roy should be plenty to keep him working hard for his points. In our first preseason game Dudley was able to handle Roy pretty well.
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
ah Dudley on Roy...
not a bad match-up. Roy is one of those guys you can’t really “stop” but Dudley’s physical style of defense and size could give him problems. Of course Roy will work him off screens and out quick JD but it’s a nice look and a nice option to have
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by Seth Pollack on Dec 17, 2009 10:53 AM MST up reply actions
No doubt he will get some points..
unless he has an off night – like he did in the preseason where he only scores 6… I’ll keep dreaming. But I think a lot will ride on how the officials call the game tonight. Portland is a very physical team that likes to drive to the hole and get fouls, if Goran is given his usual treatment he will have a tough time staying out of foul trouble – and if Dudley is treated like he was in Denver last week we might have a real problem. I would like to see the officials let them play like they did against SA – it was physical the entire game with only a few ticky-tacky fouls called here and there.
With our less than stellar defense (especially our penetration D) It’s too bad I feel we have to resort to ‘wait to see how the officials call the game’ against the better teams of the league.
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
The other big story (from the PDX point of view)
is the return of Channing Frye to town. It’s great to see he can make 3s (not so much for us Blazer fans nowadays)—back in Portland, he never seemed to be able to make midrange 2s.
But he’s a classy guy.
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by EngineerScotty on Dec 17, 2009 11:04 AM MST reply actions
Does anybody else feel
that the Blazers will ultimately match LMA up with Frye on the perimeter – and the Vanilla Gorilla down low to bang on MAX? It only makes sense to me, Amare owns LMA and the Blazers need scoring – and any foul trouble from LMA would spell death unless Roy can score 70. I hope Lou or RoLo can come in and force the Vanilla Gorilla or LMA to get into foul trouble – Heck lets even throw Jaron Collins at Pryzilliabilla, get him into foul trouble and force LMA on Amare. That way STAT can go vintage beast mode which I hope he does anyway – I LOVE SEEING THE ACTIVE/AGRESSIVE/14 REBOUNDS AND 20+ POINTS A-NIGHT STOUDEMIRE!
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Good point
Amare was pwnd (is that right?) Joel in the past. They will certainly start LMA on Frye and Pryz on Amare. Amare can take him off the dribble any time which means Joel will be backing off and leaving Amare the open 15footer just like Duncan did.
Hopefully, Amare will be “on” again
Blogging Suns Basketball . twitter: @phoenixstan
by Seth Pollack on Dec 17, 2009 12:36 PM MST up reply actions
haha! pwned is right!
I’m looking for another big night from STAT
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Break the Curse!!!
cant wait for another installment of barkleys famous one liners. along the lines of “suns have churrible defense” and “live three and die hard”(sequel to barkley’s live by the 3 and die by the 3)
And we Blazer fans get to hear...
“the Blazers are nothing but a bunch of jump shooters” from Mr. Barkley… He will say something nice about Joel Przybilla though.
He just likes him because of his nickname.
He didn’t really care about Joel at all until he heard he was called the Vanilla Gorilla. Now he calls him one of his favorite players.
Hilarious.
by Nick Van Excellent on Dec 17, 2009 3:52 PM MST up reply actions
Side note for Stan
Hey Stan how are we doing on the tikets for the Warriors game? Is it still a go?
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
so far we are a go
I haven’t gotten a count yet though
Blogging Suns Basketball . twitter: @phoenixstan
by Seth Pollack on Dec 17, 2009 12:36 PM MST up reply actions
TNT...oh no!
I have a bad feeling about this one but probably just because it is going to be on TNT.
It’d be nice to get a little winning streak going!
I think as this season progresses, we will definitely see Nash lose 1/2 a step, but at about the same time we will see Amare really turn it up. Plus Dragic is going to be a lot more comfortable playing bigger minutes while we rest MV3. What a great season so far. As a Suns fan, I could not be happier.
Steve Nash made a comment about the Suns playing style, saying we could win 50 games. Isn’t that setting the bar a bit low? I see us winning about 57 games this year, barring no injuries. So doesn’t that put us right back where we started during the D’Antoni era where he averaged 57 wins a season?
Right now we are in the 4th slot in the West. We may very well be in 4th as well come playoff time.
Honestly I think we could get above Dallas
into the #3 spot, but that’s just me..
Who's going to hold the #2 spot that is 'so' much better than us?
The way I see things right now – there’s no reason we can’t be right up at the top fighting for the second seed if we continue to play well and improve like every other team.
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
We can't get
in the top 4 unless we beat the Lakers out for the division
Best we can do is either 5th or 1st
Blogging Suns Basketball . twitter: @phoenixstan
by Seth Pollack on Dec 17, 2009 2:54 PM MST up reply actions
Dang... forgot about that minor detail
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
but wait...
aren’t there only 3 divisions within the Western Conference.. Pacific – Northwest – and Southwest right?
So we could get the 4th seed technically…
So here’s my extremely premature prediction – as it stands today I see the first four spots in the playoffs slotted as they currently stand:
- Lakers (Pacific Division Leaders)
- Denver (Northwest)
- Dallas (Southwest)
- Phoenix (4th)
With that we’re looking at possibly duking it out in the first round with either these Blazers we’ll see tonight, SA, or Houston.
From there the race for the 8th seed is still WIDE open with NOH hoping to hold on to a playoff spot, and the up and FAST coming young teams of OKC, and Sacramento. And to be quite frank – I’m surprised to see the LA Clippers with a 11-13 record at this point, I think I’m sticking to my preseason feeling that when Blake Griffin comes back after the new year the Clips will be legitimate 8th seed suitors as well! Crazy how the west is transforming.
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
I guess I forgot about the Jazz...
They’re 5th right now so maybe we throw them into our first round possibilities and push Houston out to fight for the 8th seed. Pure speculation and pointless wonderment at this point but its fun. I ran a mock WC playoffs already and this is what I saw happening… (Don’t be shocked by how it ends now..)
First Round
- Lakers v. Houston
- Denver v. San Antonio
- Dallas v. Portland
- Phoenix v. Utah
WC Semi-Finals
- Lakers v. Phoenix
- Denver v. Dallas
WC Finals
- Lakers v. Phoenix
Phoenix v. Boston for the NBA finals
Phoenix wins – the end.
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
er, there's something terribly wrong with your ladder..
starting at the WCSF ( phx vs la, and then we play again in the WCF )
however, I like the cut of your jib…
Dang... I suck again! Its a slow day at work... and my brain is showing it...
We’ll fix that, just put Denver in LA’s spot for the WC Finals. Same song, same ending. BAM!
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Actually we could be 2nd
The whole division winner thing was all screwed up a couple years ago cuz the Mavs or Spurs or somebody had more wins than the other 2 division winners but were placed 4th.
SO….
Stern actually got something right and made it so the division winners are automatically in the top 4, but the seeding is by record. So assuming the Lakers have the best record in the West, the Suns could still be the 2 seed as long as we have better record than the 2 other division winners, presumably Dallas and Denver.
Did some research
It was the 2005-2006 season where the Spurs had the best record and seeded 1, the Suns had the 3rd best record and were seeded 2, the Nuggets had the 7th best record, but because they were a division winner, they were seeded 3, and the Mavericks had the 2nd best record and were seeded 4th. (Utlimately the 6th seeded Clippers beat the Nuggets)
That meant that in round 2 the Spurs and Mavericks (1 vs 4) faced eachother even though they had the 2 best records in the conference.
Under the new rules the seeding would have been SAS – 1, DAL – 2, PHX – 3, DEN – 4.
right on!
wow the NBA got something right…
Yea, I certainly could see us taking the 2 or 3 spot, but I think it will require some help from both Denver and Dallas having some minor skids…
On another note, Eutychus, i dont know if you checked back on that thread you posted your pic on pounding the rock, but it seems to have confused them more than anything, poor things…next time you might want to use smaller words…
Yeah I saw...
I think they were trying to take a playoffs jab at me?
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
Sweet! Thanks for the research NVSunsFan!!
They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...
I heard from G n A today
that JDud was not feeling good so he missed calling into the show. Anybody else hear about this or think its something to be concerned about? Or was it just too busy preparing for the game which seems logical. Oh and go Suns!!!
Coro
didn’t have anything on his pre-game notes at azcentral.com
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by Seth Pollack on Dec 17, 2009 8:41 PM MST up reply actions
Just stopping by for a pregame handshake.
Except that the NBA doesn’t want the passing of H1N1. Hygienic fistbump for good game, followed by hand sanitizer all around?
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