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3 Minutes 57 Seconds that Lost the Game for the Suns

Sports are a funny thing. Sometime it comes down to one play. A game of inches. A buzzer beater. And sometimes you get run out of the gym from the opening tip which is what happened to the Suns Tuesday in New York.

This game had a strange flow to the opening quarter which on the surface looked like it was completely dominated by the Cavaliers. They out-scored the Suns 33 to14. Shot 52% to the Suns 30%. Out-rebounded Phoenix 19 to 7 and scored 18 of their 33 points in the paint.

Watching (and re-watching) the 1st quarter though you get a slightly different sense of how things went down that boils down to these factors:

  • Suns missed open shots they normally make
  • Cavs really did move the ball well and got balanced scoring with 8 players putting up points and LeBron James trailing the bunch with only 2 of them
  • The Suns defense was very much keyed on LeBron and he distributed the ball as well as Steve Nash (7 assists in the qtr)
  • The Suns played Robin Lopez for the final 3:31 which was an unmitigated disaster even though he did a few things well
  • The Suns didn't lack energy to start this game. If anything they seemed tight and lacking in confidence but the effort seemed to be there

Here's the blow by blow for the crucial 3 minutes 57 seconds which started with the Cavs "only" up 18-12 and the ball in the Suns hands.

Despite missing some open looks and blowing some defensive assignments the game at this point was far from being lost. By the time this stretch had ended it was curtains.

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Suns ball. 3:57. 12-18

This possession really was telling. The Suns found Grant Hill in the corner with a mismatch against JJ Hickson. Hill drives and draws a crowd and skips the ball to the far corner where it rotates another time to a wide open Steve Nash at the top of the arc.

This was beautiful Suns basketball. Classic drive and kick. Unselfish passing that resulted in your best shooter having the ball with a wide open look. Except he passes it up and tries to pump fake and drive and in the process travels and turns the ball over. Perhaps because Nash had missed a few shots or perhaps he just didn't feel that shot at that moment but you do not expect Nash to pass up an open look like this.

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Nash said after the game, "Confidence is low right now, and that's why we missed shots." In this case the confidence was so low he didn't even take the shot.

If he takes and makes this look the Suns are only down 3 and you have to think the momentum might have shifted. Maybe not. Maybe he'd have missed it. But I guarantee he will kick himself for passing up this open look.

Cavs ball. 3:50. 18-12

The Suns D here gets a bit confused with the Cavs working a side screen. JRich and Frye both end up on a Cavs guard leaving Varejao to float to the lane. Amare has to help and commits the foul. Here it seemed to be a break down in communication as well as some confusion on the rotations. I wonder how much the Suns adjusted their defensive schemes for this game to account for LeBron. The rotations did not seem sharp at all. Maybe that's mental fatigue from the night before. Maybe that's trying too hard. I don't know.

Varejao hits 1 of 2 free throws.

The Lopez Question

At this point Gentry brings in Lopez for Amare. Big Z and Varejao are in for the Cavs. Perhaps Gentry was trying to shore up the interior D and do a better job on the glass. Amare certainly wasn't do either and at that point was ice cold with his outside shot (1 - 4 shooting). It is an open question why Amundson didn't play in this game. As of right now, I haven't heard anything about an injury or an explanation of his DNP-CD.

While Robin was in the game the Cavs had two offensive rebounds resulting in 2 of their 14 points.His defense was OK. He did his job on that end taking up space and being active.

His impact on the offensive end, however, was horrendous. This was the first time Robin has played with the Suns starters this season and probably the first time since training camp if even then. He's certainly not practiced with the first unit so it was no wonder that the timing was off and his presence hurt the offensive flow.

Suns ball. 3:31. 12-19

His first possession of the game the Suns run a high pick and roll with Nash and Lopez. Nash hits Robin with a bounce pass rolling down the middle of the lane. Perhaps due to his lack of playing time. Perhaps due to lack of confidence. Or perhaps because he just doesn't have the physical ability right now, Robin doesn't launch to the rim from the top of the restricted area for a high overhand dunk attempt. Instead he takes on more big step allowing Varejao to come over and block his shot.

Cavs ball. 3:18. 19-12

The Suns play solid D denying anything in the paint and Parker misses a 3. The ball comes out to Z but Lopez is able to block his put-back attempt and knock the ball off Z giving the Suns possession. If Lopez isn't in the game that's two points for Z as he's able to shoot over any other Suns defender.

Suns ball. 2:56. 12-19

The Suns often run this curl play for Richardson they call a loop. He simply comes from the baseline and the Suns big sets a screen on his man. JRich catches the ball curling (looping) around the screen and often gets an easy look at the rim. This is normally a very effective play for the Suns.

With Lopez in the game setting that screen however the timing is way off between them and Anthony Parker is easily able to fight under the screen and stay in front of Richardson causing a very difficult shot that almost goes in. JRich and Lopez both battle hard for the rebound but Big Z gets it. That guy seems to ALWAYS be in the right place doing the right thing.

Cavs ball. 2:44. 19-12

As you will notice a full minute has gone by and the Cavs still only lead by 7. From this point in they will score every time down the floor going on a 14-2 run to break the game open.

The Cavs run a high pick and roll with LeBron and Verajao. Robin shows and recovers well but as the Suns focus on LeBron and preventing him from driving down the lane they leave Parker open who drains a 3 from the side.

Suns ball. 2:23. 12-22

The Suns now run a little two-man game with Hill and Lopez. I am not sure I understand the thinking behind involving Robin in his first three offensive possessions but there you have it.

Hill draws Big Z away from Robin and dishes to the open Lopez who can't handle the pass. Turnover.

Cavs ball. 2:07. 22-12

LeBron and Varejao again run a high pick and roll and again the Suns suck in. This time Big Z floats out and hits an open 17 foot jump shot. Frye tried to recover but couldn't get there in time.

Suns ball. 1:48. 12-24

The Suns again run a high pick and roll with Nash and Lopez. This time Lopez and Nash are able to draw Varejao in leaving Frye wide open behind the arc. He misses the shot.

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Cavs ball. 1:34. 24-12

The Cavs swing the ball around and Varejao sets a back pick on Nash freeing Gibson to get an open look behind the arc. 3 points.

Suns ball. 1:20 12-27

Nash and Frye set up the high pick and roll this time. Nash drives down the lane drawing Z to him. Z manages to deflect Nash's pass attempt across the lane. Turnover.

Cavs ball. 1:08. 27-12

The Cavs run a beautiful set play with LeBron driving a bit and finding West cutting baseline who draws the attention of the Suns bigs and hits Varejao curling into the lane. The Suns react well and prevent an easy dunk forcing Andy to hit a tough floater from about 8 ft.

The ball movement from the Cavs and execution on this and the last play were very good.

Suns ball. :51. 12-29

Nash and Amare (in for Frye) run the high pick and roll. Varejao switches on to Nash who hits a hit arcing shot over him.

Cavs ball. :42. 29-14

The Cavs feed Varejao the ball in the mid-post against Amare. Amare forces him baseline and doesn't bite on a pump fake. Verajao hits a tough hook shot over Amare.

Suns ball. :21. 14-31

Robin in-bounds to Nash while his head is turned. The ball bounces off Nash and out of bounds. Turnover

Cavs ball. :21. 31-14

LeBron goes into iso mode holding the ball waiting for clock to wind down. He drives right past Earl Clark and into the lane. Amare comes to help and alters the shot which misses. Big Z tips the ball in over Robin who was caught flat footed on the miss.

Suns ball. :2.5. 14-33

The Suns inbound to Amare who just thinks he will let the clock run out. LeBron rips the ball from him and launches from 30 feet and drains it. The Cavs bench goes nuts. The points were waived off as he clearly didn't get the shot up but that didn't matter. The confidence carried over and the Suns were never able to recover.

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During this key stretch the Cavs (Parker and Gibson) hit open three's and Z hit an open 17ft jump shot. All three shots were open due to the Suns paying so much attention to LeBron and trying to deny the middle penetration. Varejao also hit two tough shots from within 10 feet. Both were well contested and Big Z had a tip in behind a LeBron drive that drew everyone's focus.

The Suns turned the ball over four times. Once on a Nash travel. Once on a Nash pass that was deflected. Once when Robin couldn't catch the ball. And once when Robin threw the ball to Nash while he wasn't looking.

Frye missed an open three. Richardson missed a contested layup. Lopez has his layup blocked. Nash scored the only 2 points by hitting a tough high arching 15ft jump shot.

 

The Switching Conundrum

One theme we are going to hear a lot about in the days to come is how teams are now switching bigs onto Nash.

Toronto was the first team to do this when they played in Phoenix on the 15th over November. It was effective in that game and I remember asking Coach Gentry about it after the game. He said he wasn't concerned and that if teams did that Nash would pick them apart even though it was a bit disruptive in that game.

When the Suns played Toronto again last Sunday they continued the tactic. According to Raptors Coach Triano it was effective and the Suns only scored 13 of 31 times it was used. The Knicks followed suit as did the Cavs and both teams were able to cause the Suns some problems.

Amare said after the Cavs game,

"Both teams [Knicks and Cavs] did a lot of switching. They switched out on Steve (Nash) , put a big guy on Steve and made him dribble and put the ball on the floor. That seems to be what teams are doing now, switch and try to take me out of the game. That’s what I have noticed so far."

And Nash had this to say,

""The switching hasn't limited me, but it's limited our flow," said Nash, who had four turnovers in the first quarter of each loss. "We have not found a place where we can attack with other players. We didn't want it to turn into a one-on-one game for me, because it turns into a lack of chances for teammates."

Obviously, this is something that the Suns will need to work on and game plan for as other teams are going to try this tactic until Nash makes them pay.

Towards the end of the Raptors game they were effective breaking it by using Hill as a second ball handler.

Once Nash would get the big switched on him Amare would bring his "small" to the low post which would draw help to prevent an easy mis-match. Hill was able to float out and get wide open looks.

I expect to see the Suns do more things like this to move the ball and take advantage of the mis-matches without having to rely solely on Nash going iso on the big.

Stay tuned as that story develops.

[Note by Phoenix Stan, 12/03/09 9:56 AM MST ]

My buddy Brett Pollakoff from AOL Fanhouse (and a total Lakers homer) pointed out that to me via email that it was actually the his Lakers that first employed this switching defense on Nash. So by my count that makes five games in which is was used - Lakers, Toronto, Toronto, Knicks, and Cavs - and the Suns lost three of them and struggled offensively in the first Toronto game.

Also for those interested here's the update on why no Lou

Notes: Shaq solid in 1st game vs. Suns- AZ Central.com
Suns coach Alvin Gentry did not play forward Louis Amundson for the first time this season. Gentry said Amundson's play did not prompt the change. It was a need to get Robin Lopez more minutes in his return from a foot fracture.

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Steve Nash was at his best when he had a playmaking backcourt partner

While Steve has been pretty amazing since he returned back to Phoenix, I think the best I ever saw him play was in Dallas, the year they got to the WCF vs San Antonio (them again), and he had Nick Van Exel as his 2.

Until then, the Kings had managed to “solve” him, somewhat, by pressing him with Doug Christie defending him, and attacking him on offense with Mike Bibby, thereby forcing Steve to work hard the whole game.

If the Suns can get a second playmaking option on the floor with Steve, whether that’s Goran, Grant, Leandro or someone else, that would open up the floor a lot more in those situations where he’s being defended tightly. Think West/Goodrich or Dennis Johnson/Larry Bird as examples of this kind of option.

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by Pliny the Elder on Dec 3, 2009 12:11 AM MST reply actions  

Like Diaw :)

I think Hill is that option. There’s been times this season when they use Grant as the 3rd guy off the pick and roll and it almost always results in something good but it seems to be something they save for key situations…

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by Seth Pollack on Dec 3, 2009 7:59 AM MST up reply actions  

or Joe Johnson..

Hill isn’t as good a playmaker as his earlier reputation would lead you to to believe. He’s a decent passer, in fixed play situations, but not someone who can improvise to any great degree when a play breaks down.

If Frye could pass (because you know Amare just won’t, unless it’s necessary), that would be the best option to deal with the switching defense, imho, because the big man guarding Nash wouldn’t be able to play him quite so close, for fear of getting burned. That was also why I liked having Boris around, because he’s a great passer for someone his size.

This is really interesting, imho. Clearly, the word is out on how to defend Nash, and it’s the first honest attempt to do so since the Kings (the Spurs version of the Nash rules, of trying to manhandle him doesn’t count, imho, because they clearly got away with dirty play that would have been called against someone like Kobe).

I’m looking forward to seeing how Alvin, Steve and the coaching staff deal with this challenge, because if they do figure it out, the eventual outcome could be something very exciting, and put us on the next level.

"True glory consists of doing what deserves to be written, and writing what deserves to be read".

by Pliny the Elder on Dec 3, 2009 9:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Hill

I think Hill is still a pretty good play maker but we’ve not seen it much b/c the ball’s not been in his hand in those situations.

Frye is a solid passing big. He’s been good in the high/low game when the Suns run that and his post passing is certainly better than Amare’s. But again, he’s hardly ever in those kind of situations.

I also think JRich is decent enough that you can put the ball in his hands and not run and hide out of fear of what will happen next

I’m looking forward to seeing how Alvin, Steve and the coaching staff deal with this challenge, because if they do figure it out, the eventual outcome could be something very exciting, and put us on the next level.

exactly!

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by Seth Pollack on Dec 4, 2009 6:41 AM MST up reply actions  

Passing is the most underrated skill in modern basketball

in terms of it’s importance. Sure, you get the spectacular “dish of the day” on ESPN’s highlight show, but other than that, most people couldn’t care less.

But here’s the thing: if a team passes well, it can overcome a lack of athleticism and talent, and be a potent offense, because it will always be able to make a high percentage scoring opportunity available to itself.

The key is to be able to pass creatively… to be able to see which teammates are in an open position, or which player is in the best position, and find the most direct pass or set of passes that will get the ball to that player.

"True glory consists of doing what deserves to be written, and writing what deserves to be read".

by Pliny the Elder on Dec 5, 2009 12:42 AM MST up reply actions  

Great breakdown...

I noted the Nash travel in the game thread. He was wide open and froze up turning the ball over.

As for getting Lopez involved early, I’m sure the Suns were thinking it would be great to be making the Cavs bigs work in the post. As to whether Robin Lopez is up to that at this point in the season, that’s an entirely different question.

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by Mike Lisboa on Dec 3, 2009 12:32 AM MST reply actions  

Gentry style

The faster you get Lopez up to speed the better.

by dCoye on Dec 3, 2009 5:17 AM MST reply actions  

I agree ...sort of

As rusty as Robin looked on the offensive end that is to be expected. Remember Amare’s first couple of games this season?

I’ve seen him look a lot better than we are seeing so it’s just a matter of time. I just question bringing him at that moment in that game.

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by Seth Pollack on Dec 3, 2009 8:02 AM MST up reply actions  

I never been a Lopez fan

only his brother or J-Lo will do. I just don’t think Robin has what it takes. Sure he has been hurt, but I still think this is what we will get, uncoordinated, turnover prone, can’t shoot unless it is from 7 ft, big man..
 I agree when they try to eliminate Nash with the switch, have Hill handle the ball. Chess game, it is now the Suns turn to make another move.
 I still like this squad, however it just goes to show how important Nash is to the success of this team.
 Another thing IMO, the bench has not been as solid. Dragic inconsistent, Lou is not getting the minutes because of Lopez, and Dudley has not been as strong.

by Grockcubs on Dec 3, 2009 6:16 AM MST reply actions  

im not so sure about your statements about the bench

i just think that when the season started we were all so shcoked that we even had a bench that we all of a sudden thought that they should be able to do anything, including bail out a poor showing by our starters.

also, unless im mistaken, i believe it was dragic that led us back to a respectable deficit. sure the guy has been inconsistent, but that is a problem shared by 70%+ of the league’s backup point guards.

by yanyanman2 on Dec 3, 2009 7:47 AM MST up reply actions  

also about dragic

at least he is looking really aggressive this year. the big thing he needs to work on now is being a MAN and fighting pressure.

by yanyanman2 on Dec 3, 2009 7:48 AM MST up reply actions  

I think about

Dragic is that he is wildly inconsistent. He is superb one game and brutal the next. He needs to turn his poor games into decent games.
 My point on the bench is, it has been outstanding. Now with Lopez back it has changed the dynamic of the bench and has not been as good. Gentry is going to have his hands full getting Lopez into the rotation and succeding.

by Grockcubs on Dec 3, 2009 8:56 AM MST up reply actions  

"wildly inconsistent" is a bit much

He has had 2 or 3 notable bad games out of 19. I don’t know if that merits a “wildly inconsistent” label this season.

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Dec 3, 2009 10:31 AM MST up reply actions  

exactly

he’s a young player playing the most difficult position on the court…I actually think he’s exceeded expectations for consistency

If he were playing any better he’d be at a level far beyond where he reasonably could be.

Look at darling boy Jennings. Shooting something like 25% of the past few weeks? Derrick Rose isn’t exactly killing it right now.

So no, he’s not Chris Paul. Never thought he would be. But I think he’s been very steady and even when his shot isn’t falling he’s staying aggressive and playing good D and most importantly he’s not losing confidence and he’s not gone into a prolonged slump.

In fact, it would be fun to compare Dragic’s game to game consistency with say Jason Richardson’s.

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by Seth Pollack on Dec 3, 2009 11:11 AM MST up reply actions  

All right

Maybe I am a bit harsh on Dragic, I just wish his shooting would improve, 56% from the line and .43% from the floor.
 I see your points.

by Grockcubs on Dec 3, 2009 11:48 AM MST up reply actions  

yup

the free throw shooting sucks. No excuse for that

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by Seth Pollack on Dec 3, 2009 12:55 PM MST up reply actions  

about having two ball handlers

Why didn’t Gentry try playing Nash and Goran at the same time?

Goran was having a great shooting night and would’ve been able to take some pressure of off Nash. I simply don’t understand why Gentry let Nash sit for all of the fourth quarter. The 30-point first quarter deficit was as much on Nash’s shoulders as it was on JRich, Frye, Amare, and Hill’s (arguably more, given all of his turnovers and hesitation). I feel like a Nash+Goran tandem coulve done some offensive damage to that lead in the third+fourth quarter.

Another question: Do our starters get scared of good teams? It certainly seems that way. In the Laker game we gave that entire team way too much respect. And in this game we gave Lebron so much respect from a scoring standpoint that we let the rest of his teammates destroy us. Nash, in particular, seems to be not playing like himself against these big-name teams. We have heard Nash talk repeatedly about how the Suns are not as good as the elite squads yet, openly saying things like “We aren’t the Lakers or anything”. While I think it is good for him to recognize that we have not arrived by any means, this kind of talk does trouble me if it is suggesting that because we are not as good as them, we shouldn’t or can’t play as well as them. Could it be….Captain Canada is scared?

Anyway, Stan, great post! This is really what I love most about BTOTS—such great analysis. Is there any way we can find out more info about Lou’s DNP??

by yanyanman2 on Dec 3, 2009 7:59 AM MST reply actions  

Suns are off today

so I won’t be able to ask about that until tomorrow but I am guessing Coro will have the answer first :)

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by Seth Pollack on Dec 3, 2009 8:01 AM MST up reply actions  

From Coro regarding Lou's DNP-CD:

“Suns coach Alvin Gentry did not play forward Louis Amundson for the first time this season. Gentry said Amundson’s play did not prompt the change. It was a need to get Robin Lopez more minutes in his return from a foot fracture.

Lopez played five minutes, and rookie Earl Clark played 13.

’Earl’s the better matchup with Robin because we’ve got to have a guy who can put the ball on the floor and step out and shoot,’ Gentry said. ‘Lou hasn’t played poorly or done anything to merit it.’"

by jburning on Dec 3, 2009 8:44 AM MST up reply actions  

Exactly

I for one disagree with Gentry. Lou is more productive then Lopez and always will. I am just not a Lopez guy.
 Lou gets the ball off the glass and is instant energy. Good Luck coach getting quality minutes with Lopez.

by Grockcubs on Dec 3, 2009 8:59 AM MST up reply actions  

I agree

I understand Lopez needs some minutes to get back into the flow of things, but to me, Lou contributes more.

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Dec 3, 2009 9:52 AM MST up reply actions  

Disappointing

Drove down three and a half hours to see this game from near Detroit. The Q is a nice arena but hearing all the fans screaming for Verajao and whining when he didn’t get flop calls was irritating. Really wish it could have been a better game as I get so few chances to see the Suns. At least the Palace is empty enough to be able to get courtside for a reasonable enough price. Leaving on vacation saturday, wish these two games wouldn’t be what I’ll be thinking of.

Go Suns!!

by MichiganSunsFan on Dec 3, 2009 8:11 AM MST reply actions  

STAN

I am a huge fan of the still shots!! They bring the article to life! Keep up the good work!

The Suns will bounce back. They are playing out of character and I’m not too concerned about them staying in their ‘new look’ costumes.

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Dec 3, 2009 10:34 AM MST reply actions  

glad you liked it

there’s no better way to express how open those looks were

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by Seth Pollack on Dec 3, 2009 11:40 AM MST up reply actions  

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