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Suns Finish December/Year with Win Over Depleted Celtics

Channing Frye was 6 for 10 from behind the line but is trying to add more dribble penetration to his game. (Photo by Max Simbron)

No Wounded Tiger bounce for the Celtics tonight. Without KG, Pierce, Davis and Daniels and with a gimpy Rondo who had no interest in attacking the rim the Suns should have won this game. And they did win this game.

Coach Doc Rivers kind of disagreed but then talked himself out of it, "I expected to win. I think we pay everybody. As long as you do, you have to come in with the expectation to win..This was very difficult to win. They're a good team. So this game doesn't affect me at all."

As for the Suns, they were pretty happy. All expect Channing Frye that is who didn't want to talk about U of A athletics at all unless it was sport he was feeling confident about, "We're building on hoops. I'm always with the hoops but now we got to go to something that I'm going to get a guaranteed win in and that's softball. Killing in softball."

Channing set his season high with 26 points on 9 of 15 shooting including 6 three's. Many of those three's came at key points when the Celtics were making a push to get back in the game. His shooting tonight wasn't just on fire, it was clutch.

More impressive though was his 10 rebounds. He understands that his rebounding is as important if not more so to this team and he's certainly focused on that. He's also working hard on adding some dribble drive moves to his game.

"They're closing out so hard on him and that's something he's worked on in practice. He has to be able to put it down for one or two dribbles and shoot it or if there's an ally he's got to be able to take it to the basket. He's gotten pretty good at that," said Gentry.

Frye will continue to work on that and also talked about making the correct pass when help comes and keeping his dribble lower so he doesn't have the ball stripped.

Amare was on pace for a monster game before getting into foul trouble. Coach talked about that as well, "We talked to him about that and that's something that he's going to have to eliminate...We have to have him on the floor. We can't have him on the floor with three fouls in the early part of the second quarter."

To start the game the Suns were finding Amare in open positions and as Gentry explained getting him the ball in places where he could make good decisions.

Steve Nash said that they were just playing their game and even though Amare was hot (at one point 8 for 8) he didn't want to try to find him more, "We just kept playing the game which is important. If you start really trying to force the ball into him that's when we get in problems. That was a big product of our ball movement."

Happy New Year everyone! The Suns have the day off tomorrow and have a late 1pm practice time on the 1st.

That works great for me!!

Celtics vs Suns boxscore

Be sure to check out the panic over at Celitics Blog. They've now lost three in a row. I bet they will be talking about trading KG for Emeka Okafor and Rajon Rondo for Mario Chalmers.

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Game Notes Taken in Real Time (Enjoy)

1st Qtr

  • In the Celtic's locker room pre-game 'Sheed has his head phones on and is loudly rapping. Takes his head phones off and continues. You had to be there but it was pretty damn funny. Dude doesn't give a shit about anyone or anything
  • Perkins and Rondo posting up on first two trips. Wonder what their game plan is?
  • Suns look crispy to start. Sharp passes. Decisive action
  • Frye hits hit first look at a three. Good sign or just good shot? Ask me in 2 hours
  • Hill hits his first look at a three. Good sign or just damn lucky? Ask me in 2 hours
  • Suns D looks good getting their hands on a lot of balls (that's what she said). 4 early turn overs for C's. Helps that Hill can pretty much ignore Tony Allen
  • Suns up 26-14. Max Contract 8/8 w/ 16 points
  • I love when Max gets a hoop and just lets the ball bounce off his head as it comes through the net

2nd Qtr

  • The Celtics clearly miss KG's presence...on the bench cheerleading
  • LB drives baselines and throws the ball of the glass to Robin? Was that intentional? It certainly looked like it
  • Suns D not giving Eddie House anything
  • Suns second unit with Frye...I like it. Defense and rebounding from Lou plus shooting w/ Frye and Dudley, attacking from LB and Goran to run the show
  • Sheldon Williams misses a running hook shot. Candace Parker would have made it
  • Lou still can't hit uncontested 15 foot shots (aka free throws)
  • Frye being more aggressive going to the rim and doing more with the ball off the dribble. He said after Monday's game that he's trying to add that to his game
  • LB once again holds the ball too long and jacks up a shot three feet behind the arc. He made it but still...
  • Hill gets racked across the face and goes down in pain. Amare the first one over to him. Gentry is seriously pissed that there wasn't a foul called
  • Rasheed Wallace showed ZERO interest in event pretending to close out on Frye
  • Robin Lopez tried to break more glass but got hammered from behind (that's what he said). Unlike Lou, he hits his two freebies. Then hits two more despite having his feet 6 inches behind the line
  • Celtics making push cut the lead to 48-39 after House gets an open 3 off an offensive rebound
  • Suns getting a bit complacent. Amare getting benched w/ his 3rd foul hurt. It was a dumb foul in the back court too
  • Nash getting aggressive looking for his shot. He's 3 of 7. Don't like how the Suns are closing out this half. Probably won't matter in the end but still
  • Grant Hill checking back in! Yippie!
  • Frye hits a couple of three's to push the to 59 points. Against the Celtics. 59 points
  • Make that 61 points. Against the Celtics. 61 points.

3rd Qtr

  • Amare picks up his fourth foul about 16 seconds in. He kind of tripped up Rondo going up court but it looked incidental. Refs must not want a blow out. Gentry leaves him in. Good call (Gentry, not the ref)
  • Wonder what the line is?
  • Wildcats getting blown out in the Holiday Bowl. Guess they weren't that good after all
  • Rondo looking to pass every time he gets into the lane. Not even trying to attack the rim
  • Sheed wants you to remember that he still has post moves
  • Suns flat to start 3rd
  • Nash iso'd on a big drives and draws help. JRich trails in behind for the drop off. Nice play
  • Remember when 'Sheed could hit the three?
  • Whoa! How did that happen. Suddenly the Suns are up 20
  • Gentry has Dudley check Rondo. I think just for fun to see what would happen. Didn't last long
  • The box score says Frye has 4-three's. I think it's more like 14. Feels that way
  • Tweet of the game from CP3 (Candace Parker): man, nash is so good....amazing he is a 6 ft slow white dude but has mastered da game of basketball....imagine if a gifted, talented athlete paid that much attention to detail as steve nash...wow

4th Qtr

  • Suns up 15. Will there be full garbage time or will Nash have to come back in and close this one out? I am guessing no more Nash.
  • Of course if you keep leaving Eddie House wide open...
  • Frosty having a quiet game. He's saving it for Memphis and his rematch with Jamal Nutmeg Tinsley
  • Dudley needs to not force his shot. If you are open, fire away but if not...
  • Frosty with the behind the back move while driving full speed in the lane! Kid's got flair
  • Gentry to entire Suns team, "DO NOT LEAVE EDDIE HOUSE"
  • B Scal fouls out! This game is over for sure!!!
  • Unlike Lakers fans, Celtics fans make me smile a little bit. They all look like such happy Irishmen
  • Robin Lopez is much more focused on rebounds this year as opposed to getting blocks
  • Earl Clark scores!
  • Sheldon Williams picks up a questionable T. Barbosa missed the free throw. I head Sheed yell "Ball Don't Lie" from 20 rows up
  • 2 minutes left. Suns up 114-95. I'm not leaving early this time like I did in the Memphis game only to miss something cool
  • Btw - see bullet #4 in 1st Qtr section. Answer is yes.
  • With Tucker gone Collins is getting his garbage time minutes
  • See, I would have missed Sheldon Williams wiffing a wide open dunk

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candace,,real cool,,,not.

by kuato lives on Dec 30, 2009 11:27 PM MST reply actions  

She's only repeating what Nash has said about himself.

No animosity there – only pure respect from one of the WNBA’s finest.

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Dec 31, 2009 10:25 AM MST up reply actions  

" imagine if a gifted, talented athlete paid that much attention..."

if that’s supposed to be respect, I’d like to hear one of her insults…

by Fritzy on Dec 31, 2009 11:04 AM MST up reply actions  

I think she means well

but obviously not the brightest crayon in the box

by alimoe on Dec 31, 2009 11:14 AM MST up reply actions  

Finalizing judgments without considering intent or context is irresponsible and unmerciful – but unfortunately there is a place in politics for you.

If you think it’s some sort of dig a Nash – You’re ladle-ing, just looking to stir the pot.

Nothing to see here – it could have been worded better no doubt but I’m guessing it was a heat of the moment tweet/text/blurb/exclamation and she probably didn’t instinctively have her agent or public relations coordinator proofread it. Move along.

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Dec 31, 2009 1:52 PM MST up reply actions  

Time out...

By the same token, by automatically assuming that her intentions were good or even altruistic you make the same context mistake that Fritzy did. She needs to be held accountable (like all of us) for the things that she says. Whether meant for good or bad, spoken in arrogance or humility. She should have clarified her statement a litttle better. Thats the problem with quick communication isn’t it? It eliminates the part of our brain that tells us to stop and think about what we are saying.

Dont pretend to take the high road when you commit the same fallacy…

Go read a book!

by N8lol on Dec 31, 2009 2:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Come on now.. do you really want to keep on with the topic or just argue?
by automatically assuming that her intentions were good or even altruistic you make the same context mistake that Fritzy did.

My friend, you fail. Consider the following.

  1. It’s a tweet
  2. She begins the tweet with the preface of
    man, nash is so good
    and continues with praise by saying that Nash
    has mastered da game of basketball

    if that doesn’t imply and contextualize a sentiment of respect or awe I don’t know what does. Especially the realm of tweets.
  3. Steve has referred to himself has a slow white guy, everyone who pays attention to basketball knows this – it’s now common bball knowledge.
  4. It’s no news flash that Steve is perceived as less-athletic or less talented because he doesn’t dunk or defend particularly well or because he gets blown by other more athletic and physically talented PGs. That’s what makes Steve Nash all the more AMAZING – he has you wondering… how the (expletive) did he do that?
  5. She needs to be held accountable (like all of us) for the things that she says
    And I’m sure if you told her you were offended by your interpretation of her cyber tweet she would clarify it for you. Did you tell her? Do you think Steve Nash was offended by it? Did he tell her? No.
  • Don’t pretend to take the high road when you commit the same fallacy…
    It’s Interesting you deem my position ‘the high road’… but the difference is that my assumption of the context and intent is factually supported. Where are the facts supporting a position that puts the Candace tweet in a derogatory and malicious light? There are good assumptions and bad assumptions unless you ascribe to the flawed philosophy that ‘you shouldn’t assume anything’. Good assumptions are supported whereas bad assumptions are not.

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Dec 31, 2009 3:04 PM MST up reply actions  

sweet jesus dude...

it was just a snarky remark…

perhaps you should have considered the intent of my remark before finalizing judgement..that’s pretty unmerciful..

;-)

by Fritzy on Dec 31, 2009 6:52 PM MST up reply actions  

I think not...

“my friend.” (Whats that all about anyway?) Indeed you did have some context. However your reasoning is exaggerated. Consider the following…
1. “Its a tweet” (NOW in bold!) – Are you kidding? Your assumptions are ludicrous. Not all tweets are the same. Not all say the same thing. In fact, not all tweeters are the same. Now, I dont tweet, but it seems to me that if you want to take a single comment made by anyone without a PROPER context (that involves setting, linguistics, etc) you might want to follow them for a long bit before making any judgement about what they say.

Take CP3’s remark for instance. In the first tweet, “man, nash is so good….amazing he is a 6 ft slow white dude but has mastered da game of basketball” she not only uses no punctuation but makes use of slang terms like “dude” and “da.” Now while she says Nash is good, without proper punctuation and without the advantage of being able to hear her tonal inflections she could be sarcastic, or perhaps she is proffering an explanation which in her later statement she backs off of in her next statement “imagine if a gifted, talented athlete paid that much attention to detail as steve nash…wow.” What you call a “preface” my friend, I call disconnected and marginally incoherent especially when juxtaposed with her next statement.

2) In reference to your #s 3-4: Non sequitur. I wasn’t talking about whether or not CP3’s statement was correct. I was commenting on your rude treatment Fritzy’s comment. Totally uncalled for in my opinion. You have no place telling someone else their comment is “unmerciful” and then lambasting them in a worse way , then calling them a politician. Piss off for that sh%$.

3) In reference to 5: I am not offended by what she said. Some parts of it are true. My point still stands. All of us, including you apparently, need to own up to what we say. We are all responsible for what others hear. And thus its CP3’s responsibility to make sure her comments are easily understood in the context.

Finally. You talk about facts like you own them but you really don’t. The “fact” is that there are no facts because you dont really know CP3 or the situation. Where you there? Did you tweet it for her? Did she run the tweet through you? I assume the answer is no otherwise we wouldn’t be having this conversation. And if the “flawed philosophy” you are referring to is how you know something then that is called epistemology and it is anything but flawed. Go look it up sometime. Yes, there are good and bad assumptions but in this case you dont have much more to stand on than Fritzy or anyone else.

If you want, I can put together a more delineated grammatical analysis of your tweets with so-called “flawed” philosophical analysis and all and show you how I can have just as many “facts” as you have. But that we can do privately where all these nice people aren’t offended by your presumptive arrogance.

Go read a book!

by N8lol on Jan 1, 2010 1:22 AM MST up reply actions  

Oh. You just want to argue. You win man. You are amazing.

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Jan 1, 2010 8:40 PM MST up reply actions  

take a deep breath... and get over yourself..

jesus h fricking christ.

"True glory consists of doing what deserves to be written, and writing what deserves to be read".

by Pliny the Elder on Dec 31, 2009 3:04 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah,

but why the white dude comment. Reverse the roles here, and the shit would be all over the place. Whatever Nash is a damn good point guard, and I am glad he is a Sun.
 And Candace maybe if your hubbie would work like Boozer maybe he would start in the league.

by Grockcubs on Dec 31, 2009 4:51 PM MST up reply actions  

refer to my number 3 above..

if someone had a good link that would be nice

They say "don't swim with the sharks", but I'm faster than sharks so it's not a big deal...

by Eutychus on Dec 31, 2009 5:38 PM MST up reply actions  

here it is

Nash’s ‘Old White Guy’ Shot Leads Suns Past Clippers — NBA FanHouse

“Well, I went to the old ‘white guy in the YMCA’ shot,” Nash said. “And I was lucky to make something happen.”

Blogging Suns Basketball . twitter: @phoenixstan

by Seth Pollack on Jan 1, 2010 9:50 AM MST up reply actions  

Celtics

beat up or not, have to win games like this, take care of business. Good win.
 Channing has proved me wrong, I just hope he gets more consistent. He really does have a good stroke.

Happy New Year all.

by Grockcubs on Dec 31, 2009 7:21 AM MST reply actions  

Yeah.

Probablem with Frye right now is he cant pull it out during away games….My gut, though, is that since we have so many home games in the second half of the season that Frye’s numbers will go way up.

Go read a book!

by N8lol on Dec 31, 2009 2:01 PM MST up reply actions  

LB

needs more minutes. This team is much more explosive and confident when LB has it going

by alimoe on Dec 31, 2009 7:56 AM MST reply actions  

Good call on checking out CelticsBlog...

Not too much panic going on over there, but I had to laugh at the FanPost entitled “Why Did the Celtics Trade Joe Johnson (2001)?”

Because apparently everyone except Atlanta somehow screwed up with that guy.

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by Mike Lisboa on Dec 31, 2009 10:30 AM MST reply actions  

Are they panicking or drinking?

Feels like they’re gonna break into “Danny Boy” any moment

by dCoye on Dec 31, 2009 2:33 PM MST reply actions  

Nash has gotta get into that All-Star ballot. It’s just wrong knowing that a half-broken man is beating a fully-working aged hippie in terms of votes. Sympathy ballots I guess.

by vincent enrique on Jan 1, 2010 9:08 AM MST reply actions  

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