Game Thread: Suns @ Mavericks
by Seth Pollack on Dec 8, 2009 8:14 PM MST
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Phoenix Suns at Dallas Mavericks, Dec 8, 2009 6:30 PM MST
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let me know if you guys find any good links online
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this one is in.....another language but combine it with audio from nba league pass and you're golden.
http://www.goalcentre.com/phoenix-suns-vs-dallas-mavericks/#more-18701
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lol except the audio tells you whats gonna happen about 5 secs early
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OMG
what an ugly shot! I had forgotten it was that ugly!
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
nice! good looks down llow so far
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Good energy...guys are not standing around
ball moving well. Nice to see that!
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
the only person im worried about is jason terry… he shoots 3s wrecklessly off the bench and makes them
love how jrich looks like friggin ilgauskas with how easy he dunks the ball
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Just turning the game on now
so I am catching up via Tivo…should be back to “real time” by end of 1st Qtr
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I like the energy
Good 1st Q. for the Suns. It’s been a long time since I’ve seen one of those. Let’s close the quarter strong.
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
I am behind
but Suns are looking sharp early…running some new plays with more picks and movements and less pick and roll
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offense really
looks crisp….lots of movement and passing
funny what a day off will do
oh and I love Hill’s D on Dirk getting up in his grill and making him put the ball on the floor
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kind of like the way you miss an ugly dog when it dies
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What a pass by Nash with the left hand
Wow. just Wow. A swing pass with the left hand…almost falling down.
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
Nice quarter, guys!
We are running and moving the ball really well. Loving it!
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
I didn't want to say it to not freak everyone out
but… ESPN Deportes picked it up today. So it’s being broadcast to all Latin America. Curse Game!
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
Suns ran
a pick and roll with Nash and JRich…
I love that… want more
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Wait a sec
I thought J-Ho wasn’t playing and yet there he is…playing
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Goran gets the rebound and then
with the great follow on the offensive end!
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
Barea killing the Suns
Can someone guard the kid…
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
Is there something wrong with frye?
why only 8 mins?
Couple of fouls
but I am thinking that we might start seeing less of him on nights when he misses a couple early shots
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well
you can do that or you can play your other big guys that play better D and rebound (Lou and Robin)
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Liking Lopez
working around the paint…tipping balls, moving people, sweating beard filtered sweat on the floor
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Great rip by Robin
just yanking the ball out of Gooden’s hands or I guess I should say tying him up for the jump ball
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Horrible defense by Richardson
to cover that three point shot! Just awful!
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
wow this Barea kid
loves playing against the Suns
btw – it is 6:45 in the 2nd in my time/space continuim
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J-Rich aggresive posting up and going to the basket
Nice half for him.
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
Nice rip by Goran!
and then slashing in for the put back!
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well...yeah...but...
they don’t even have him subbing off on the play-by-play, suggests he’s injured or something.
I really think
it is being either generous or lazy any time an broadcaster talks about Marion’s “shot”
He does not shoot the ball. He flings it effectively
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Nice close to the half
with an assist to Marion missing his fling attempt
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here we go
the game is close but I at least like the improved performance over the last two games…this one could be a barn burner though
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J-Rich has got to make that shot
we can’t afford him missing open looks.
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
we ned this game
winnable. 3 game losing streak. nuff said.
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when he joined the mavs
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Fun game
congrats to the voters for not putting this one on NBA TV
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Yeah, i know
Suns v Mavs??? that’s never a good game to watch…..
sc
these german announcers
just said “sexual! sexual! sexual!” and I have no idea in what context because everything else was german.
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We need to force Dirk put it on the floor
He’s not as comfortable with that. Otherwise, he’ll shoot those jumpers all day.
why would you jump on a head fake from drew gooden at the 3 point line
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If my wife keeps
making cookies on her days off I am going to look like Oliver Miller by New Years
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+1
we need some weight inside on this board…we got too many shooters not enough bangers
by ArizonaCactus on Dec 8, 2009 8:16 PM MST up reply actions
well, I can bang with the best of them
and my shot has been flat of late
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okay, we need to capitalize on their turnovers.
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man, I haven't seen amare catch and shoot like that......really ever
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Love seeing Dragic
doubling on Dirk…he does a good job showing strong and then recovers quickly. Good fundamental defensive player our young Slovenian
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Love the Dragic Double. He's an excellent help defender.
Double Dragon?
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Was going to watch it on League Pass Broadband, but...
…with a download speed of 106kbps, Hampton Inn really needs to re-define their concept of “Hi-Speed” Internet.
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http://www.goalcentre.com/phoenix-suns-vs-dallas-mavericks/#more-18701
in german
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I think german....lol
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OT
This has the look of an overtime game
April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?
yup
I was thinking that too and remembering all those great Suns/Mavs games
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Yeah,
2 clutch shooters in Nash and Dirk, i’d say this’ll come down to the wire.
oh he'll make it
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They keep talking about Kidd
going into the Suns Ring of Honor but I don’t know that he was in Phoenix long enough and certainly not during any of the “good” years
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Plus we shipped him out pretty quickly after his domestic problems
he didnt really leave with the best name here.
guess not
he basically tackled him in mid air and then hit the ball
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Off topic,
but the nets are beating the bulls by a point with 27 secs to go in the 4th.
if the Bulls lose this, Del Negro is fired.
I never thought that
was a good hire for them. Why on Earth did they think he had any idea how to coach an NBA team?
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bulls lost.
you’d think that’s the end of vinny!
humphries is ripped
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Btw
so much for Clark or Tucker getting more minutes w/ LB out
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not this game
but Tucker did have 14 points recently….I’d like to see clark more though
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btw on that J-Ho
open 3 that was Dudley who was over helping and out of position. Again
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whats up with dirk's weird squatting and 1 shot
so annoying looks like hes taking a dump
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I really hate that swing through call
That and the shot fake after the dribble is picked up where the shooter leans into the defender who left his feet.
Just tuned in
How do we look?
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
good for a little while
terrible last 5 minutes
by ArizonaCactus on Dec 8, 2009 8:34 PM MST up reply actions
we've started standing around again
this team is terrible when there’s no ball movement
by ArizonaCactus on Dec 8, 2009 8:34 PM MST up reply actions
We're lucky that
Terry and Kidd missed those three’s b/c our offense is getting nothing
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by Seth Pollack on Dec 8, 2009 8:34 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
JRich is going to be the guy
that needs to win this game
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bang!
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
They stopped moving
and Dallas started to make shots… not looking good.
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
misfiring.
scared to take shots now. no confidence.
Off topic again
Cavs Grizz into OT.
they had to pull shaq off near the end for fear of hach-a-shaq.
how much do i not miss that…. :)
Hey fellas
Update please I’m at work
by ron_dasun on Dec 8, 2009 8:40 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Phoenix offense has ground to a halt.
everyone is standing around waiting for someone to create something.
Not good.
Howard is torching the Suns
Dudley just got smoked on that move…he’s too aggressive this year. Not playing as smart
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So much for Howard not playing today!
20 points in his debut…
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
yes
overreliance on starters with lb out (not that the bench is playing very well)
by ArizonaCactus on Dec 8, 2009 8:45 PM MST up reply actions
see I'd rather gauge us on how well we play against
These guys and probably other teams not staring Vanessa Bryant and Kloe K. Odom
by ron_dasun on Dec 8, 2009 8:45 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Suns have two full days off
before the Magic AND the Magic have to play in Utah Thursday before coming to Phx Friday…finally some schedule love
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Complete with silly headband!
Dirk is killing us, but the thing that makes it unbearable for me is that he looks like a goof with that headband.
5 points
isn’t too bad. we can make that up in a couple of big 3pters
Kerr in the background of that shot
didn’t look too pleased…
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Jrich
couldn’t he have used that last timeout to tie his shoes…he’s been tying his shoes all quarter
Both teams
about 28% from three but the difference is Dirk….and Howard
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Wow...Nash
they should have a day in his honor!!
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by Seth Pollack on Dec 8, 2009 8:55 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
This is when that thing called Defense
can make you win games…
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
Sure would have been nice if Channing's shot had shown up tonight...
Ugh.
http://seasonsofdiscontent.com/
or Amare's rebounding
How long can we go with a power forward that gets 4 rebounds in a critical game?
April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?
What the?
they let the ball get to Dirk too easily!
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
ZeBo with 32 and 13 against the Cavs tonight
I know it’s off topic, but he’s been playing well…must be on the right meds
we actually can win this
if we foul the right guy
April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?
Too late
JRich hitting some of those three’s earlier and this is a different game
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should've jacked up a shot when the foul was committed
made it 3 FT’s
shouldn't nash
have missed that free throw?
April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?
i thought so
gave us the best chance to win i thought
by ArizonaCactus on Dec 8, 2009 9:07 PM MST up reply actions
AAAAAGH
this game was SO winnable. no excuses here. this was a mental collapse and poor effort by the suns until the very end of the game. wtf happened to our defense in the 2nd and 3rd quarter?
ps
our offense and defense seem to be really tightly related. when defense is going, we make shots. when it isnt, we try to go iso on everything or turn it over. yeesh. cant we learn to play some D even when the O isnt there?
Losing streak
December has not been kind to us. Our offense is running out of gas.
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
Eff that man.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
i already know yall gonna say it's too early, but
when do we start exploring trade scenarios
it's not early
We need someone other than nash who can make a difference when the game is on the line. Everyone else play just fine against warriors, kings and clippers, but when it’s a bigger game they shy away. Amare and J-Rich are inconsistent.
We need another ball-handler in the lineup
Hill ideally is that guy, but we can’t put it on all a 37 year old dude, no matter how epic he is. We had it in JJ, we had it in Boris…now we’re missing it
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Howard made the difference
Marion looks OLD
April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?
W/e, at the start of the season I would have been happy for 6-8 seed
And here we come!
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Remember that 20 sec timeout that J-Rich
called when he got a loose ball? We kind of needed that one for the finish…
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
muy terrible
i got a feeling… that tonight is not gonna be a goodnight. Its going to be a long cold winter unless the suns get their offense back. is it just me or were just running to many isos over the pick and roll. same play over and over.
Teams are defending our pick and roll very well nowadays
Sad to watch
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
We had the horses to put up 117.7 ppg w/ Shaq+Gentry last season
Replace Shaq w/ Frye and we should be scoring just fine IMO. Frye’s jekyll/hyde act on the home/road is really hurting this team.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
yeah...I hate to agree with u on that...but Shaq although not a good defender by any means
was bigger, stronger, and tougher…he guarded Bynum decently last year as well
say what u may...STAT is just not the same guy...he is going in the wrong direction
Frye is a nice addition, but pretty useless if the outside shot isn’t woking
Yeah I think after 21 games we can say that Amare is not what he used to be.
Which is okay, as long as he doesn’t demand max money….
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
I think some team will offer him max in the offseason
If they strike out with LeBeast, Wade, Bosh, then they’ll turn to Joe Johnson and Amare. If Miami can’t get LeBron or Bosh to join Wade, and they’re desperate to keep him, I can see them throwing max at him.
If(xenu forbid) this is just the start of a downwards spiral and we’re fighting for a playoff spot come trade deadline, then yeah, I think Amare is bye bye in Feb. If we make the playoffs and get owned early on, then Amare will most likely walk after we don’t give him max money. I just hope that we do a sign and trade this summer instead of letting him walk for nothing.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
yeah I hope we can find a sucka to want to trade for our 1 trick pony
at this point Bosh is better than Amare…which I NEVER thought I’d ever say
Bosh has been phenomenal this season
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
Playing afraid to lose
one of the great things early in the season was the WTF attitude that came w/ lowered (no) expectations. Next thing you know you are 14-3 and things heat up and suddenly Nash is playing 40 minutes and the bench is an after thought.
I know w/o LB it’s different but you can just sense the team get tight and Gentry reinforced that w/ his rotations. This very much felt like a D’Antoni coached game with only 7 guys used plus a couple of minutes for Robin
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by Seth Pollack on Dec 8, 2009 9:27 PM MST reply actions 2 recs
Great post stan
Keen insight, rec’d
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
still
not a big deal. Spurs are at .500 right now and surely will come on strong. We can survive a rough December.
oh and the Blazers certainly aren’t going to be as strong as they appeared this summer and we already know the Hornets are are not going to be strong.
So we are right back where we started. Lakers and Nuggets are going to run away and then there’s plenty of room for us in that next tier
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You are right
never thought about that. Totally true.
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
Better times will come
Coaching staff need to make adjustments. Come up with some plays. We can’t rely too much on the outside shot or pick and roll. Gotta play more in the post and penetrate.
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
The game started off well
there were some new plays and some different movement but there’s not been enough time to really get that settled in
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by Seth Pollack on Dec 8, 2009 10:09 PM MST up reply actions
Arg
Friggen Suns getting all my expectations higher than the stars and then pissing me off with lukewarm effort and offense these last 4 losses. Granted the Lakers and Cavs losses were expected, but seriously. It just feels like the Suns havent showed up for the last few games.
Perhaps it’s just me with drastically changed expectations than those i had before the season began.
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
We are still a very good team
but we need to make some adjustments offensively and our defense needs improvement. Seems like when Frye has a bad shooting night it takes a toll on the team. We can’t rely our whole offense on shooters. We need to come up with some different plays because we are becoming pretty damn predictible.
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
denver lost tonight
hooray…i guess. what the heck was with all those clutch threes at the END of the game? couldnt we have gotten into that mentality earlier? this reminded me alot of old suns games where we would be in the lead, lose it, then make a final rush at the end for a 50/50 chance of winning.
can the suns get a win against a quality team? can they summon up the heart and desire and WILL needed to do so? at a certain point, all of these intangibles can be more valuable than talent or skill. the suns themselves proved that to me.
well see.
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