Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: Clippers Need To Realize That Spurs Are The Anti-Grizzlies

A word to the 'wise' Amare Hater.

You may have already read this but if you havn't I will post it here.

This is from Michael Schwartz and was posted on the valleyofthesuns board.

A word of caution to the Amare bashers out there, sometimes you don’t realize what you have until it’s gone.

It is a good read as far as statistical analysis goes. And it confirms my belief that this problem is not Amare. It's a management / team thing.

 

Comment 6 comments  |  0 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

Comments

Display:

My point is.

Trading Amare could very well make this slow spiral a fast spiral.

"We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time." - Vince Lombardi

by antiw0rm on Feb 11, 2009 8:24 AM MST reply actions  

Advice

If you are only going to link to an article and not actually discuss a point, then this should be a fanshot not a fanpost.

Just sayin.

Purchasing my Dragic jersey

by rosewood on Feb 11, 2009 8:41 AM MST reply actions  

True

BUT ,

I wanted a little more view and opinion as it appears a lot of people on this board think that simply trading Amare and adding a few less statistically solid players would increase our chances of winning. And by the numbers in this article and several other articles that I have read this theory is simply not the answer.

"We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time." - Vince Lombardi

by antiw0rm on Feb 11, 2009 10:57 AM MST up reply actions  

Hating on the attitude

I don’t hate Amare, just his attitude. If he cared as much about helping the team win as he does about his desire to be “the man”, he would easily be right up there with Tim Duncan, KG, Karl Malone, etc as one of the best to ever play his position. And guess what? He probably would be “the man” on the Suns because he would be someone the players would actually want to follow. That’s not saying he doesn’t care about winning, just that he seems to care about his own standing a lot more more. Maybe all players do, but most do a better job of hiding it and not sounding like they’d be positively miserable to be around day in, day out.

It was easy to make excuses for it when the team was winning (e.g., “he has to pump himself up in order to motivate himself”, “he’s just doing it all in fun”, “it’s amazing he’s where he is given his childhood”, etc), but now the excuses are growing thin, and nobody likes a guy who throws teammates under the bus while shirking responsibility for his team’s struggles. A true team leader says “hey, it’s on me”, even when it’s really not, and any employee who desires to be promoted takes the initiative to start seeking out additional responsibilities on his own, not waiting to be asked or “voted” into it. It’s a shame Amare never learned those valuable life lessons. All that said, nothing would make me happier than the Suns not finding a deal for Amare this season, and him finally “getting it” and becoming the truly great player he could be if he just focused on winning and stopped worrying about who gets the credit for it.

by TexSUN on Feb 11, 2009 8:51 AM MST reply actions  

This is a valid point.

This is a valid point as his attitude doesn’t reflect in his statistics. The problem I have here is that everybody want’s him to take control and be the man (including himself). But that is where it seemingly ends. The Suns upper and middle management have taken away all avenues for him to have any success in taking over this role. They have basically left him to become a role player while still promoting to the media that he is the future of the team and the recent changes would compliment him. Now all I see is him as the first fall guy.

The fall guys should be Porter and ultimately Kerr / Server if there was any justice in the NBA. Which as Suns fans we all know there isn’t.

If we can get rid of Porter and Kerr show. Then personally I think the Suns need a young true center that can run AND play the post when needed. But what team doesn’t need this?

"We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time." - Vince Lombardi

by antiw0rm on Feb 11, 2009 11:05 AM MST up reply actions  

The problem's not with Amare

This post inspired this post of mine.

Read and see if it makes sense. We will regret the loss of Amare and no super star will want to stay in Phoenix when the fans and the management are playing mind games with the players.

http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2009/2/11/757014/the-problem-s-not-with-ama

by magenta on Feb 11, 2009 10:25 PM MST reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Welcome to the SB Nation blog devoted to all things Phoenix Suns.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recommended FanPosts

1300861821-62_small
Thank You BSOTS. Thank You Phoenix Suns.
Cat-s_1__small
The Quest for the Ring...

Recent FanPosts

Cat-s_1__small
How was kobe not ejected after going for Faried's head?!?
Small
Possible Plan to Help Thin Out Our Roster Needs
Raja_small
NBA Draft 2012
Siler_small
A whole team's worth of ex-Suns still in the playoff chase
Ept_sports_nba_experts-582662258-1253039160_small
Fantasy Factory
Cat-s_1__small
Hurry! Hurry! Hurry! Place Your Playoff Predictions Here!
Nashrodman_small
Gordon or Bust(ed)?
Cat-s_1__small
BSotS Regular Season West Conf Standings Contest Winners-- Beavis and Spitfire!

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >

Friend Us On Facebook

Follow us on Twitter

Follow BrightSideSun on Twitter

RSS Feeds

Bright Side Of The Sun Feeds


Managers

Seth_twitter_pic_4_small Seth Pollack

13531_1236944896270_1608674153_605227_1328752_n_small Wil Cantrell

Editors

Gortat_1_small East Bay Ray

Authors

Eutychus_logo_small Eutychus

1216horry-autosized258_small Alex Laugan

Photo_small 7footer