Suns Trade Rumor Thread
The original Amare Trade Rumor Thread has gotten too large partly because all of the rumors and partly because the rumors are extending beyond just Amare.
[Note by Phoenix Stan, 02/12/09 12:33 PM MST ]
- An historically reliable poster on the RealGM forum is reporting that Kerr is considering taking over for Porter (not sure I like the idea of coaching but I do love the idea of him sleeping in the bed he's made)
[Note by Phoenix Stan, 02/12/09 3:13 PM MST ]
- From the same source over at RealGM. Again, this individual had the details of the Shaq trade, the JRich trade and also the exact same things I heard re: Porter last week so while it is still rumor it is more credible than random chatter:
Kerr just called Dudley. Had Gentry in his office for about an hour. Met with HR and the Lawyer earlier today. That’s all I’ve got. Working on it. Something seems to be close. Stay tuned.
- I also confirmed independently that Porter isn't long for Phoenix...timing is to help bury it in the all star hubbub
[Note by Phoenix Stan, 02/13/09 2:38 PM MST ]
- So, why does Porter still have his job and why did Steve Kerr go on the radio this morning and flatly deny all the rumors.
- I don't know...
- It is hard to get a hold of anyone today with all the ASGness but I have two theories. These are MY theories only:
- 1) The NBA asked the Suns to wait so as to avoid the bad pub of having the host team fire its coach during La Grande Evente
- 2) Something changed that convinced Sarver/Kerr to hold their fire. I don't know what that might be
- I can tell you that too many people were giving too many specifics for this not to have been real as of yesterday. Something's changed.
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If this is true, is this perhaps a Kevin McHale type situation for Kerr? One of those “Oh, you like this group of players so much, well you coach them and show me it works.”
by jburning on Feb 12, 2009 12:47 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
just a rumor so far, but i hope it happens
let kerr suffer with us.
he can’t be any worse than porter, can he?
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on Feb 12, 2009 12:51 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I wouldnt mind
I think Kerr would make a much better coach than a GM. Personally, I think Majerle should be our head coach. Regardless though, I think Kerr would not only be better than Porter but would go in knowing his job is now on the line. I’d much rather see that happen than another trade.
by KnowGood on Feb 12, 2009 1:42 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
About the Memphis deal getting nixed: I really don’t understand why Kerr would be so interested in Rudy Gay. Gay’s pretty talented, but we’ve already got Jason Richardson. Makes no sense to have both. I wish they’d just look at power forwards and point guards.
by jburning on Feb 12, 2009 2:22 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
EXACTLY
The Memphis deal never made sense…
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by Seth Pollack on Feb 12, 2009 2:23 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I do think
that a lot of these rumors are coming from the Suns with the intent of driving up the price
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by Seth Pollack on Feb 12, 2009 2:23 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
one would think that if they are trying to drive up his price they would at least try to make him out to be a good basketball player who can improve. or at least indicate that he may not be the best fit for our new ‘system’, whatever that entails.
by ArizonaCactus on Feb 12, 2009 2:26 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
All of this trade talk is like crack. We’ll be lucky if the final deal resembles any of these, but I just can’t help myself … I have to torture myself with the possibilities.
by jburning on Feb 12, 2009 2:26 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
i think we should trade amare to olympiacos for jennero pargo and josh childress.
=)
by ArizonaCactus on Feb 12, 2009 2:29 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
its not possible
but i would trade straight up for danny granger
by Funky Flapsack on Feb 12, 2009 2:36 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
That would be sweet. I REALLY like Danny Granger. However, we’d probably need to move Jason Richardson.
by jburning on Feb 12, 2009 2:38 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
he is a SF though. so we’d have to rid ourselves of Barnes and/or Hill
by Funky Flapsack on Feb 12, 2009 2:40 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think we’d have to worry too much about that. I think Hill will be gone after this year, and likely so will Barnes.
by jburning on Feb 12, 2009 2:43 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I would love to see that!
ha! can’t help but laugh at this.
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
by PanamaSun on Feb 12, 2009 2:58 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
UPDATE from Mr. Dynasty
I have some news…
Kerr just called Dudley.
Had Gentry in his office for about an hour. Met with HR and the Lawyer earlier today.
That’s all I’ve got. Working on it. Something seems to be close. Stay tuned.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on Feb 12, 2009 3:03 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Because I'm an idiot, I had to ask him what HR was
Human Resources!
Sounds like Gentry’s gonna take over for Porter…
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on Feb 12, 2009 3:09 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d be willing to bet it was about Porter…since Gentry went and met with Kerr for a while afterwards. Dudley likely will be packaged with someone (Amare).
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on Feb 12, 2009 3:10 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
So … Porter canned, Gentry interim coach, Jared Dudley part of a trade?
by jburning on Feb 12, 2009 3:06 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
that's what i think too
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on Feb 12, 2009 3:14 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m following the same RealGM thread some of you probably are. Just don’t have an account there, so I can’t post. I’m really hoping this means Miami. Jared Dudley for Shawn Marion, Stoudemire for Beasley, position-wise.
by jburning on Feb 12, 2009 3:18 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
UPDATE 2
Sarver and Fie (the public relations chick) are in with Kerr right now…office has tensed up. Something is going down. The problem is that the media may learn before me!
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on Feb 12, 2009 3:29 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
SDU(another reliable poster) says that porter is GONE
i hope it’s true
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on Feb 12, 2009 3:38 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
says 4 sources told him that
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on Feb 12, 2009 3:42 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think Porter is officially gone quite yet…he’s called the office a couple times and is waiting to hear back from Kerr…so hold on. The decision may have been made already tho and that’s what SDU could have heard.
—dynasty
I’ve heard that the decision has been made and its negotiating a payout at the moment – thats from my source
-SDU
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on Feb 12, 2009 3:51 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
So ...?
Let’s skip ahead:
Genry or Kerr?
I don’t know that Gentry’s got what it takes and may be too much of a “friend” to make a difference. And, like Stan said, Kerr really should lie in the bed he made.
I dont’ know if it’s possible, but I’d sure hope they at least called Marc Ivaroni.
Mmmmm ... Guinness
by JSun on Feb 12, 2009 3:53 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Wow
This is better than watching a Latin Soap Opera
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
by PanamaSun on Feb 12, 2009 3:56 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
No hold on a minute….Those women look SOOOOOO good, even if I can’t understand what they’re saying.
by RD74 on Feb 12, 2009 4:06 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Good point
The only reason non-Spanish speaking fellows watch Latin Soaps is to ogle the lovely ladies. So, from our standpoint, the Latin Soap Operas are better
Mmmmm ... Guinness
by JSun on Feb 12, 2009 4:17 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
You know what
You guys are right! The fact that I understand everything totally ruins it for me.
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
by PanamaSun on Feb 12, 2009 4:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
How do we know the play by play like this? WHo’s the mole?
by RD74 on Feb 12, 2009 4:04 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
two dudes on realgm w/ legit sources
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on Feb 12, 2009 4:07 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Wild guess....
…someone the Suns purposefully get to “leak” the info just to see how the public responds? “Hey, let’s post on RealGM that we’re thinking of firing the coach and see what kind of response we get. They’re cheering the idea? OK, Terry, you’re gone.”
Mind you, I have NO basis for this theory whatsoever, but it seems to me if the Suns really wanted to know which of their employees was leaking play-by-play of their meetings with HR to the media they could find out easily enough. They’re not exactly a half-million-employee company you know….
by TexSUN on Feb 12, 2009 4:39 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
wouldn't surprise me
and on top of that, it seems like anytime the organization is looking to make a move, they purposely leak stuff to get all of us talking. And they feed the media stories, or use the media to spread propaganda. Like when you listen to Gambo and Ash, they are all about moving Amar’e, almost like they’re trying to sell it to us on behalf of the Suns
by Funky Flapsack on Feb 12, 2009 4:52 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
OK, if you guys say so, but I’m still not convinced. Maybe I’m naive but putting out a rumor on purpose is one thing, allowing someone to do a play by play of how Terry Porter gets fired is another. That was supposedly a detailed account of the goings on of an NBA team front office. I’ve been wrong before though I guess.
by RD74 on Feb 12, 2009 5:09 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
and that remoinds me…i had no clue Bell and Diaw would be moved. Was I late, is it common knowledge that that deal was leaked?
by RD74 on Feb 12, 2009 5:25 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
you're right about them
but sometimes i feel like they’re trying to sell us their moves
by Funky Flapsack on Feb 12, 2009 5:35 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Good Idea
No sarcasm here, but they should get some outside perspective. For two reasons: (1) we buy the sh*t that makes the team happen, and (2) sometimes you’re too close to a situation. It’s marketing. They take surveys to ask what the consumers want.
Mmmmm ... Guinness
by JSun on Feb 12, 2009 6:15 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Can somebody...
…post the link to the thread ya’ll are following on RealGM for those of us too lazy to hunt it down from the main forum page?
On second thought, don’t. If I start reading that I may never leave the desk long enough to do the any of the 10,000 things I need to get done before tomorrow morning.
by TexSUN on Feb 12, 2009 4:21 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Never mind
…found it buried around page 60 or so of the Amare trade thread. I was looking for something more obvious like, say, “Porter is gone”. lol.
by TexSUN on Feb 12, 2009 4:30 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd much rather win games
But you guys are making this incredibly fun for me, and I thank you all.
I would like Kerr to step in as coach. I don’t believe for a second that he made this mess (Sarver selling draft picks and D’antoni refusing defense did that), but Kerr has a vision to make the Suns a championship contender for real, and sometimes if you want a job done right you’ve got to do it yourself.
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
by SunDolphin on Feb 12, 2009 5:18 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Gambo and Ash are really pushing the Golden State trade to Robert Sarver (he’s a guest on their show right now).
by jburning on Feb 12, 2009 5:21 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I'd love to hear that
I heard Gambo mumbling about that yesterday. Do we really want another center with no range from beyond 8 feet (I’m being generous) who can’t hit free throws?
I repeat: the only deal that makes any sense is Sheed. He saves $2M this year, is off the books next year, plays defense and doesn’t need the lane to score. If there are picks in there, all the better. It satisfies nearly every criteria.
Mmmmm ... Guinness
by JSun on Feb 12, 2009 6:18 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
The turn off on the Detroit deal is the young talent we get back. So far, I’m hearing Jason Maxiell and Amir Johnson. Amir had a lot of hype in the preseason, but it hasn’t translated to much. In my opinion, this is the most important part of the Stoudemire deal: who do we get back that we can build around? Both Maxiell and Johnson seem like role players, maybe not even starters. Both are players I’d like to have on my team, but not to get back in a trade for my all-star. If we’re trading Stoudemire, we NEED to be looking at the longish-term future.
by jburning on Feb 12, 2009 6:29 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
That sounds a lot like someone I know….preseason hype, mid-season dissapointment.
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
by SunDolphin on Feb 12, 2009 7:13 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
i wish i wasn't at work
i’d love to hear that
by Funky Flapsack on Feb 12, 2009 5:37 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
They started it off by asking if they could make a deal where it was equal money (i.e. no expiring contracts in return), and Sarver said it’s possible, but it’d be difficult come next year, but they could look at trading again next year. Then Gambo started saying that the one he liked was the Golden State trade, and that Tim Legler really liked it, and that all of their fans really like it. Sarver didn’t really respond too much.
by jburning on Feb 12, 2009 5:41 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
but he confirmed Amare is gone?
by Funky Flapsack on Feb 12, 2009 5:49 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Nope, in fact, he said it’s not at all definite that they trade Stoudemire. Then again, he’s not going to spill the beans on Gambo and Ash.
by jburning on Feb 12, 2009 5:51 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
true
he’d leak it to espn first i’m sure.
by Funky Flapsack on Feb 12, 2009 5:58 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
As much as the folks on RealGM seem to have the Golden State deal, I’m going to have to agree with Gambo that it’s the best deal floating around so far, if the Suns aren’t too worried about expiring contracts. If they are, then the Heat one is my fave.
by jburning on Feb 12, 2009 6:02 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
If you do the Warriors trade
do it tonight, please. The Blazers are playing them this evening, and the more you can scratch from the lineup, the better. :)
by EngineerScotty on Feb 12, 2009 6:29 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
One positive ...
They could do the Golden State deal and not mess with the All-Star lineups, heh.
by jburning on Feb 12, 2009 6:31 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Porter
I head this myself today from someone inside the Suns org directly…it’s only a matter of time
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by Seth Pollack on Feb 12, 2009 6:34 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Re: the Amare-Blazers rumor:
If Bayless is the only hangup -why not get Sergio Rodriguez instead plus a draft pick. I think Aldridge (young talented big) plus Lafrentz (expiring contract) is already more than good enough for Suns. I just dont see Portland giving up both LMA and Bayless. Unless of course the Blazers may just be toying around w/ Kerr and Sarver all along and trying to drive up their value to get somebody more dependable (Chris Bosh?) as sounded out in other blogs/ rumors.
by toto_l2003 on Feb 12, 2009 7:50 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Us in PDX feel
the rumor comes from Kerr in an attempt to bid up the price for Amare.
by EngineerScotty on Feb 12, 2009 8:35 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Well the Chicago/Miami game provided a nice little showcase for possibly future Suns players.
by jburning on Feb 12, 2009 8:30 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Possibly
the only thing I’m sorta unhappy about the impending Porter firing, is that
poor dude is gonna be stuck on 99 coaching wins (99-116)….. if he is fired before one more victory…. :)
Whats up doc?
by RottPhiler on Feb 12, 2009 10:32 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
The Thunder trade,
but only because I’m a bigtime Hoyas homer.
By the way, the AZSnakepit does not take responsibility for, nor condone, any alcohol-related accidents or injuries incurred, directly or indirectly, as a result of reading this website.
by DbacksSkins on Feb 12, 2009 11:03 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
BrightSideoftheSun.com is getting quotes at lot at www.hoopshype.com this morning.
by jburning on Feb 13, 2009 7:52 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Aqz.NFGPZTtzjpq9pv_9xfq8vLYF?slug=aw-sunsheat021309&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
This article makes no sense to me. I thought the big hang-up in the Miami deal was Shawn Marion coming back to the Suns, NOT that Beasley was involved? Beasley should be the main reason to get involved with the Heat! Why would the Suns trade a power forward for ANOTHER dynamic wing player? Grr. The whole point to a three-team trade was to get another team involved so the Suns would receive a DIFFERENT expiring contract from that third team, so they wouldn’t have to take back Marion, then the Suns could receive Beasley from the Heat, send Amare to the Heat, and then have spare parts floating around to make it palatable for the third team. This way, the Heat could also keep Marion to trade for Jermaine O’Neal.
by jburning on Feb 13, 2009 8:55 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
So it appears Marion is off the table, as ESPN is reporting that he and Banks are going to Toronto for Jermaine O’Neal and Jamario Moon. Ghey.
by jburning on Feb 13, 2009 11:07 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
ESPN reports
Miami-Toronto did the long anticipated Marix-JOneal trade.
That’s one less suitors for Amare.
by gadogry on Feb 13, 2009 11:14 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe this is Colangelo's Ultimate Plan
Marion to Raptors. Maybe Amare and Nash next. Then figure a deal for JJ
by Funky Flapsack on Feb 13, 2009 12:39 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Hey if we get Bosh and change back for Amare and Nash, I ain’t complaining.
by jburning on Feb 13, 2009 12:55 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Bosh and "change" for Amare + Nash?!
“change” better include Calderon. And maybe Bargnani too.
by gadogry on Feb 13, 2009 1:23 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn’t want Bargnani, but yeah, Calderon would make nice change.
by jburning on Feb 13, 2009 1:37 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

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