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Paul Coro made it official today....

I wonder why the Suns insisted on denying the rumors so vehemently on Friday. Seems mishandled.

Also hearing Monday or sooner an Amare to Bulls trade will be announced possibly involving Dudley and Amundson with Drew Gooden and Tyrus Thomas coming back along with another player.

I am not a big fan of this trade if that's what ends up happening.

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That trade BLOWS.

I want Noah/Sefolosha/Thomas, all three of them, not just freaking Tyrus Thomas.

Why wouldn’t they see how Amare plays w/ Gentry’s system Tuesday and Wednesday before pulling the trigger?

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Feb 15, 2009 2:50 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Wow...I'm shocked if Tyrus Thomas is the centerpiece

Kerr is seriously pulling an Isiah Thomas.

The cake is a lie. Do not bake it.

by blzrfan on Feb 15, 2009 2:51 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Bull's fan here.

I’m not saying he’ll be great, but Tyrus is as talented as they come. His ceiling is way, way up there.

by dakoose on Feb 15, 2009 3:51 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, but you're not getting TT/Noah and Sef.

This isn’t a basketball move by Kerr. It’s not his fault. It’s a financial deal being forced through by Sarver.

by Unrealcity on Feb 16, 2009 12:51 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Say it ain't so...

That trade is so unsexy And unhelpful. I’m leaning towards standing pat with a couple changes in the rotation.

I think doing the unthinkable is better than doing this.

by Mike Lisboa on Feb 15, 2009 2:54 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Oh, and I agree...

The firing is totally botched. Clean breaks are the best. This lingering, rumor-mongering mess is a debacle. When will we learn.. it’s never the scandal, it’s always the cover-up that gets one in hot water.

by Mike Lisboa on Feb 15, 2009 2:55 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Word Parsers

They only denied the Vessey article saying Kerr would take over.

by dCoye on Feb 15, 2009 2:57 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Because it can't be said enough: this trade blows.

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Feb 15, 2009 3:01 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Players wanted Gentry?

On ESPN.com, Michael Wilbon alleges (in the video accompanying the article) the Suns veterans wanted Gentry all along… Does anyone recall hearing anything to this effect? If so, it maybe bodes well for the next 31 games…

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3906621

by Mike Lisboa on Feb 15, 2009 3:03 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Bulls fan here

Totally understand why you guys would be upset, but where does it say anywhere in the article that an Amare trade is forthcoming? All it does is talk about Porter. All the signs seem to be pointing towards you guys keeping Stoudemire…

"One thing I do know is teams like a lot of our pieces. That's not to say they want to give us a lot of players in return, but I know they like a lot of our pieces." - John Paxson (1/21/09)

by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 15, 2009 3:11 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

that's not from this article

that’s from other sources of mine…sorry for not being clear

by Seth Pollack on Feb 15, 2009 3:11 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, I was getting the feeling that if Porter was out they might prefer to keep Amare and see how it works out. Very interesting...

"One thing I do know is teams like a lot of our pieces. That's not to say they want to give us a lot of players in return, but I know they like a lot of our pieces." - John Paxson (1/21/09)

by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 15, 2009 3:15 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Well shit.

I have a sinking feeling that its gonna be years until I’m enthusiastic for this team again. We need one of those new school GMs as described in that battier article. +1 for Sarver self-immolation (the method would only be appropriate).

by IrrationalAgent on Feb 15, 2009 3:11 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Good!

It was hard to go to games when the arena was filled with the bandwagon jumpers of the past 4 years.

If you make every game a life-and-death thing, you're going to have problems. You'll be dead a lot.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Feb 15, 2009 3:20 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

lol true

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Feb 15, 2009 3:23 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Did you ever go to

any games at the mad house on McDowell? I went there as a kid, saw KJ and TC and EJ there. We could get that place a rockin!!

If you make every game a life-and-death thing, you're going to have problems. You'll be dead a lot.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Feb 15, 2009 4:04 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

My dad took me once there when I was three, so I don't remember much.

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Feb 15, 2009 4:15 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

The Madhouse was awesome.

AWA was loud in the early days but never that loud.

by stampchez on Feb 15, 2009 4:26 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I grew up there...

best part of this weekend for me? 30 second interview with Sweet D…

by Seth Pollack on Feb 15, 2009 5:13 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

oh, I bet you were

in heaven then…..

If you make every game a life-and-death thing, you're going to have problems. You'll be dead a lot.

by unnamedDBacksfan on Feb 15, 2009 5:52 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Bandwagoners?!..

…If they were, they have been the worst bandwagon fans in the league. At least the Cards’ bandwagon fans were loud…I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: Suns fans (that attend games) are among the worst in the league….

by Silkster on Feb 15, 2009 3:29 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

true again

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Feb 15, 2009 3:30 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

We really

need to avoid changing too many things too quickly. Stoudemire is our biggest asset, and we should wait and see if just the change of coach brings about the change we want in the team.

And I hate the trade, as it stands “allegedly” right now.

Arizona expatriate in Missouri

by Snakebitten on Feb 15, 2009 3:16 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Bulls fan here...

How reliable is this guy? I remember he mentioned a Porter firing early last week. Please let this be true Bulls fans are desperate for a big man.

by gocubs40 on Feb 15, 2009 3:16 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

you better give us something better back

then whats being suggested. Drew Goodan=Garbage. Tyrus Thomas=Garbage. Any way we get Gordon or Deng?

by Funky Flapsack on Feb 15, 2009 3:23 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

gordon can veto a trade i think, and deng is overpaid like hell(which means sarver says no)

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Feb 15, 2009 3:24 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Gordon is untradeable because he can reject trades...

Deng won’t be traded because he has a bad contract. The Bulls would be happy to give them up if you wanted them though.

by gocubs40 on Feb 15, 2009 3:24 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

if we go back to the old system

than their numbers will be embellished anyway.

by Funky Flapsack on Feb 15, 2009 3:25 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I totally don't blame you for being pissed off, I would feel the same way

but I think Tyrus is getting a bad rap nationally. He’s REALLY come on lately and I think you would be pleasantly surprised. Although this deal is still pretty lopsided

"One thing I do know is teams like a lot of our pieces. That's not to say they want to give us a lot of players in return, but I know they like a lot of our pieces." - John Paxson (1/21/09)

by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 15, 2009 3:25 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Que?!

This trade is just stupid to say the least. We are giving Amar’e for nothing!

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Feb 15, 2009 3:21 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I hope Amare's agent steps in

And tells Reinsdorf he won’t re-sign in Chicago

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Feb 15, 2009 3:26 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Riiiight...

…because he would much rather re-sign if he were sent to a team like Memphis or Sacramento…

by Silkster on Feb 15, 2009 3:31 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

He'd probably come to Chicago too

Who wouldn’t want to team up alongside Derrick Rose?

by gocubs40 on Feb 15, 2009 3:39 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Playing...

….in a big city like Chicago with an up-and-coming point guard named Derrick Rose wouldn’t be too bad either…

by Silkster on Feb 15, 2009 3:40 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

With Vinny?

If Vinny gets canned, then probably so. If Vinny gets fired, then I’d agree Amare is a goner.

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Feb 15, 2009 3:42 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

If the rumors about Pax stepping down(either soon or after the season) are true,

then odds are that Vinny will be gone too, as the new guy will probably wanna make his own hire. Nobody, and I mean nobody, will be sad to see Vinny gone.

by dakoose on Feb 15, 2009 3:54 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Paxson's gone

Vinny?

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Feb 15, 2009 4:35 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

so lame

why does espn keep bringing up Portland in trade scenarios? i thought that it was squashed

by Funky Flapsack on Feb 15, 2009 3:26 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

They are saying Detroit is in the mix also

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Feb 15, 2009 3:28 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

It's the only good trade

I hope this one goes through so I win the pool

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Feb 15, 2009 3:35 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Hope you do

Is the best one out there

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Feb 15, 2009 4:05 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Portland won't trade for Amare

but they could broker a three way deal. A Prince to Portland, Amare to Detroit, Lafrentz + talent to Phoenix kind of deal.

by Cablinasian on Feb 15, 2009 3:33 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Tyrus might be a change of scenary guy

He’s played well of late and still has a ton of potential. If I’m a Suns fan though I’m more happy about this deal potentially getting done than the Cavs proposed offer.

by gocubs40 on Feb 15, 2009 3:28 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

it's better than the cavs trade, but in the way that getting raped w/ lube > rapeage w/o lube. either way you still get bent over and screwed.

sorry for the coarse language, but that’s pretty much how i’d feel if this trade went through.

rose+amare will be fun to watch.

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Feb 15, 2009 3:31 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

we need unprotected picks

when will that fucker Sarver learn

by Funky Flapsack on Feb 15, 2009 3:28 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Someone should tell Kerr and Sarver

that their incompetency is showing. I think Porter should go too, but he deserves some common decency. This is becoming more and more painful to watch as time goes on.

by Diosnomeama on Feb 15, 2009 3:29 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Seriously

I really hope he didn’t find out by reading the paper. That would be such a douchebag move by the Suns

by Funky Flapsack on Feb 15, 2009 3:31 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

According to dynasty/SDU on realgm, they've been negotiating his buyout since Thursday, so this isn't a surprise to him

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Feb 15, 2009 3:31 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

AMUNDSON!!!!?????

We are gonna throw in Amundson!?! I just got my specially ordered Amundson T-Shirt Jersey in the mail a couple weeks ago! WTF!

by brian13 on Feb 15, 2009 3:33 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I agree

that it shouldn’t be a surprise to him, but all this sneaking around behind the scenes crap is a pretty good indicator of what we can continue to expect from Sun’s management.

by Diosnomeama on Feb 15, 2009 3:33 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I use the term “management” very loosely, btw.

by Diosnomeama on Feb 15, 2009 3:36 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

zzzz

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Feb 15, 2009 3:34 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Oops

Didn’t mean to do that. Porter needed to go but I thought that by doing so they were going to keep Amare…This trade doesn’t make any sense! Is he such a Cancer? Players don’t like him? I can’t believe Sarver and Kerr are that stupid, there has to be a reason why they are doing this..

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Feb 15, 2009 3:38 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

No...they're not that stupid, or at least Kerr isn't...

…IT"S THAT PRICK SARVER WHO’S ALWAYS LOOKING TO CUT COSTS!!!!

by Silkster on Feb 15, 2009 3:42 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Not true

The only reason he’s looking to cut costs now is because he listened to Kerr’s bad ideas.

Sarver has over-spent on this team

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Feb 15, 2009 3:43 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry...

…I’ll just NEVER be a Sarver apologist. I might cut Kerr a little slack, but it is truly Sarver who has screwed this team over with the moves he has made in the last few years. Go read this article on YahooSports.com – Ludden absolutely torches Sarver…

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;ylt=AhJpZmeH5ite58D09eTVjg5nYcB?slug=jy-sarversuns021309&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

by Silkster on Feb 15, 2009 3:48 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I just read it

The majority of that article criticizes his financial moves and cost-cutting. The alleged “cheap” Sarver is a load of bull. He may have made bad moves, but he has yet (YET) made a move solely motivated by money. He’s spent a ton on players to chase the ring. It is clearly nowhere within the organization’s grasp anymore, and he he is criticized for not continuing to throw good money after bad and turn the Suns into the Kings?

When the Suns were over the cap, mortgaging the future to get a title, no one complained. When the title began slipping away in the months before the Shaq trade, every arm-chair quarterback and history revisionist started second-guessing moves aimed at “winning now.”

Well, it’s time to start rebuilding for the future. Trading Amare signals building for a future 5 years away. I do hope that Sarver is rebuilding for the very near future.

Sarver has had bad GMs, and D’Antoni was one of them. Then, he hired another one.

Mmmmm ... Guinness

by JSun on Feb 15, 2009 4:44 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

What do you call selling all of your draft picks?

That is why you guys are old and have no other alternative but to sell cheap on your best player. Sarver went all the way on the guys that you have and it didn’t work. Shaq was thought to be the piece that would get you over the top. It didn’t work and without any picks, (besides R. Lopez), you guys are stuck with what you’ve got. And you’re not even a playoff team! So, it’s time to blow it up. I know it sucks for you Suns fans. But us Chicago fans have been going through it for 10 years since Jordan, Pippen and Phil left.

by Unrealcity on Feb 16, 2009 1:02 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

He's no genius...

…but go and read that article…

by Silkster on Feb 15, 2009 3:52 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

I read it

this morning, good article.

by Diosnomeama on Feb 15, 2009 3:53 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Bring back Colangelo

At least that guy had class.

by ArizonaCactus on Feb 15, 2009 3:35 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Lets make this trade happen!....

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/allstar2009/columns/story?columnist=adande_ja&page=All-Star-trades-090215

How it could happen: The Lakers get worried they’ll lose Lamar Odom to free agency this summer, and they get worried they’ll lose Andrew Bynum to knee injuries every season if the current trend holds up. They send them to Phoenix in exchange for O’Neal. The Suns get the payroll relief of Odom’s $14 million expiring contract and a promising young player in Bynum at only 60 percent of the cost of Shaq.

by brian13 on Feb 15, 2009 3:37 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

No way

that’s happening. The Lakers would be giving up their championship run, and Kobe would probably go nuts and murder everyone with a hatchet. That would be kind of cool to see, but still.

by Diosnomeama on Feb 15, 2009 3:43 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I know...

but i still like it.

by brian13 on Feb 15, 2009 3:48 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I like it too

I’m guessing that whatever happens will be far less enjoyable, though.

by Diosnomeama on Feb 15, 2009 3:50 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Amar'e to the bulls for 2006's bust and Drew Gooden?!?!?!?!?

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by proposals on Feb 15, 2009 3:37 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

It's a bad dream

It’s the worst new I’ve heard all weekend
But quiet, this is a bad dream, sure.
The trade would be with the players you’ve mentioned? Amare + Dudley + Amundson X Thomas + another player?
In this case it doesn’t seem possible. There are currently 13 players in the roster, minus 3 plus 2 = 12. We need 1 player to complete roster
So, should we make another trade? With whom?

by matrix7 on Feb 15, 2009 3:41 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Why trade now?

I want to see what Gentry can do. The only trade I make is Antawn Jamison, Brendan Haywood, and an unprotected #1 for Amare. Let’s not be like Congress and make a bad move for the sake of a move.

April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?

by Hawk42 on Feb 15, 2009 3:43 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Maybe

The Suns organization is leaking this trade rumor so that when they announce the REAL deal, everyone will applaud the move in relief.

by Worthy J. on Feb 15, 2009 4:07 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I still like

the idea of a trade for Biedrins/Turiaf. I don’t have any delusions about that happening though.

by Diosnomeama on Feb 15, 2009 4:11 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

If this deal goes down

the Suns will go even further down. Sarver is a jackass. As long as he is the owner of this team this team will suck.
 If the Suns do not get a No.1 back then shame on them for being so stupid.

"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"

by Grockcubs on Feb 15, 2009 4:18 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Sarver will just sell the pick for 3 mill....

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Feb 15, 2009 4:20 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

If this goes down..you're getting a very good player.

You guys will love Tyrus. He makes watching the games pretty entertaining. He will dunk on people almost every game trust me!!!! He could very well become a force in the league. I wouldn’t be surprised. I’m a Bulls fan and I personally don’t want to see him traded. His shot’s not to bad and he’s fairly consistent. He’ll get you 3 swats a game or so. Sample….?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JWUBZgszNg

by ImmanuelKant on Feb 15, 2009 4:46 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

wow

3 swats per game? what are you basing this on?

Tyrus is not a “very good player” he is a bust. He is especially not a “very good player” compared to Amar’e. Someone saying that they dont want to see him traded is the definition of a homer.

by proposals on Feb 15, 2009 4:52 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

All I know is I have watched Tyrus for the past few years and he impacts the game.

I wouldn’t call him a bust at all. He hasn’t had consistent minutes and now that he is he’s putting up double doubles. So… if you wanna call me a homer thats cool but I think he’s the Bulls best player behind Rose. BG scores but thats it.

I will say this that he may end up being a top 5 shot blocker in the league by next season. I can only imagine if he had a scoring center to play along side. Nash is going to love this kid. I swear he has Randy Moss like freakiness. You can throw a lob to him and he will fetch it. Had the Bulls had better passers and not all jump shooters maybe Tyrus would be getting more respect.

This is all naked eye so take it or leave it.

by ImmanuelKant on Feb 15, 2009 5:08 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Amare is an absolute stud

and If I was a Suns fan I would be pissed to see him traded. As a Bulls fan, I would be ecstatic to see him come to Chicago. Tyrus has the potential to be a very good player, his impact being especially seen on the defensive side ( he excels coming from the weak side down low as a shot blocker). His averaging 3 blocks a game during a season is not out of the question. Since 12/1 he has played well and consistently, I believe his PER is at 16 during this time (not a stat guy, feel free to check it out yourself). Calling him a bust is understandable due to your lack of exposure to the Bulls, but reeks of not knowing your subject matter.

by idel212 on Feb 15, 2009 5:08 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah you put Tyrus with Nash a guy who looks to pass first and shoot second you might have something.

if they can build a Payton/Kemp relationship on the court that would be scarey and then have Shaq scoring? I woudn’t call Gooden Garbage either! I think his biggest knock is just he shoots outside shots a lot. But he can score and he would be a good option off the bench.

He just doesn’t fit with the way Rose plays. I think the Suns style of play has slowed down to where Gooden might be a nice pick up for you.

by ImmanuelKant on Feb 15, 2009 5:16 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Lou Amundson to the Bulls

I AM SO EXCITED!!!!!!! This weekend just keeps getting better!!!!!!!

Ridiculous? I think Not.
Upside? Plenty.
RidiculousUpside

by Scott Schroeder on Feb 15, 2009 5:27 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Well, if this trade happens, I guess I can be relieved it ain’t the Cavs trade, but if Portland was really offering Jerryd Bayless and Raef LaFrentz, I would rather take that one, since Bayless has a much greater chance of being a real impact player.

by jburning on Feb 15, 2009 6:13 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

i can’t decide who i hate more… sarver or kerr. if they were in the business of breaking hearts, they would have a monopoly

I'm just like you, only ten times better.

by noonoo on Feb 15, 2009 7:45 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I can decide and it's Sarver

For all the reasons already written about here and elsewhere.

by TwinnerA on Feb 15, 2009 9:30 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

This is ridiculous!

If this is the plan for “Nobert Carver” and " Never O’Kerred To The Obsurd" to save on the luxury tax, they better think again! First they try to put out in the media, that all of the fans are fed up with Amar’ e. Next it’s “We expect more from him” and “He needs to step up his game”. Last it’s we need to save money , because we’re paying out more than he is worth and losing games, which is going to cause fans to stop coming to our games and buying tickets.

 So now it’s time to set the old toy out at the curb and see if whoever drives by wants to take him off our hands for free!! Oh and how about I throw out Lou too!! I didn’t pay much for him and got to use him for awhile. Alas I have grown tired of playing with him too.(never mind he has quickly become a fan favorite and some of us peons (Me!!) enjoy watching the game with him in it). Let’s keep Shaq though, he’s big (therfore better) We paid alot for him and we can play our whole game around him. He’ll be worth 10 x’s this garbage we just set out, and the rest of the bench/toys;( Lopez, Tucker, & Dragic) we’ll keep that stuff too, because I haven’t had time to play with them yet , maybe I can use them later and who cares if they won’t work???

Oh wait, somebody just traded us some stuff in return. Wow!! it looks like some old toys that no one wanted. Maybe “Kurd” can make them shiny and try to pass them off as new to our friends, they didn’t cost anything! There’s also a $10 giftcard for food , maybe we’ ll use it to feed the team/toys.Second thought, I think I’ll see if I can cash it in and keep the money!!! Yay!!!

If this is the crap they think we are going to eat , they can kiss their money goodbye. They will be losing a hell of a lot more revenue from the fans, than they will on their da** luxury taxes. If this is the trade they make, I will be dropping off every bit of my merchandise to USAC in pieces and sending a letter to the aforementioned idiots in case they still don’t get it!!.

 We the fans know when we’ve been fed B.S.and it isn’t going to fly. We paid taxes to build the arena/center. We buy the tickets, the concessions, and the merchandise. We are more the Owners of this team than Sarver could ever be, because we know that ego, money, and prestige don’t make a team. It’ s the fan’s, coaching/management (with encouraging support) and team that is treated with worth that develops into great ness. We know the suns have the essentials of that! Now It’s time for the owner, management and coaches to step up their game and take responsibility for their mistakes. DO THE RIGHT THING! KEEP THIS TEAM TOGETHER! ( like Nash has asked, otherwise the face of your franchise wont re-sign! ) Sarver if you need money , sell your stocks or your $1,000 trashcan, quit giving overpaid jobs to cronies ( cause they arent doing a heck of a job and neither did Brownie) and letting them give jobs to their cronies. If you are a true fan like you say you are, then you will keep this team together and make the fans happy OR REALLY END UP BROKE!!! Maybe you should have a chat with Jerry Colangelo. He has and always will love our team first and foremost like the rest of us TRUE FANS! Don’t ruin the the love of the game for the team and the fans!!!!!

by clc360 on Feb 15, 2009 7:51 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

via CBS
The Suns’ efforts to find the best deal for Stoudemire have come back to the Bulls partly because of Phoenix’s interest in Tyrus Thomas, one of the people said. The trade likely would have to include at least one of the following — Drew Gooden, whose contract expires after this season, and Larry Hughes, whose deal comes off the books after 2009-10.

RealGM Link

Also mentioned… Portland seems to be out of it.

by UtesFan89 on Feb 15, 2009 8:10 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

That seems to agree

with what Phoenix Stan posted… at least partially.

by UtesFan89 on Feb 15, 2009 8:11 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Bulls fans on RealGM saying that some local radio station (ESPN 1000?) and Ric Bucher says that deal is almost finalized

tyrus, sefoolosha, gooden

LE SUCK

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Feb 15, 2009 8:15 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Well, I’m hoping at the very, very least, it’s JUST Amare for Thomas, Sefalosha, and Gooden. Keep Sweet Lou out of it!

by jburning on Feb 15, 2009 8:26 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Another very, very small positive (I’m starting to just accept that this year will be crap), is that we’ll miss the playoffs and get a lottery pick. Unfortunately, it’ll be in a pretty weak draft.

by jburning on Feb 15, 2009 8:29 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/11838893/13599036

“One faction of the organization views trading Stoudemire as a "giant mistake” that would be difficult to recover from and views the firing of coach Terry Porter as a sufficient move for now."

Article is somewhat promising. Shows that at least some portion of the front office has some brains.

by jburning on Feb 15, 2009 8:56 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

that portion

is probably our former blog leader in the media room!

by KJ7 on Feb 16, 2009 9:03 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Watching the Terry Porter story on Planet Orange of FSAZ

And even though I don’t see him as a good fit for the Suns and readily accept he should be fired (along, however, with Kerr and Sarver), I really feel bad for him

He was a great player, seems like a good person, and deserved better from this shitshow our franchise’s ownership has become.

I really think he was brought in because he didn’t have any credibility and made for an easy scapegoat.

by ArizonaCactus on Feb 15, 2009 10:06 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I feel sorry for him too. He seems like a good guy…he just wasn’t a good fit at all with these guys. He did, after all, walk into the toughest coaching job in the NBA, so you have to cut him a little slack, although I still don’t mind seeing him go. Hopefully he’ll be successful elsewhere, if he gets the chance…

by Silkster on Feb 15, 2009 11:28 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Wasn't the right fit for our team, but that wasn't our fault.

And if he really did just find out tonight that he was toast, then our ownership sucks so much more than I thought.

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Feb 16, 2009 12:21 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

That wasn't his fault*

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Feb 16, 2009 2:42 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

I totally agree. He was a great player and was put in a very tough position.

He might have failed as a coach of this team but he also might have been put in an unwindable position.

by Seth Pollack on Feb 16, 2009 1:24 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Stupid rumors. Now all the regular gossip sites are reporting that it’s likely the Amare stays a Sun.

by jburning on Feb 16, 2009 5:42 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

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