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Game Preview - Suns vs Celtics

Boston Celtics at Phoenix Suns, Feb 22, 2009 12:30 PM MST


2008/2009 NBA Regular Season
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vs.
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31-23
44-12
US Airway Center
February 22nd, 2009, 12:30 PM MST / 2:30PM EST
ABC HD, 620 AM
Probable starters:
Steve Nash PG R. Rondo
Leandro Barbosa SG R. Allen
Jason Richardson SF P. Pierce
Grant Hill PF B. Scalabrine
Shaquille O'Neal C K. Perkins
Official Suns Game Notes

This preview brought to you by Mike Lisboa who wasn't able to actually bring it to you due to technical difficulties. He lives in California which is probably a factor.

I was driving home trying to figure out a theme for my Sun-Celts preview and coming up empty when fortunately I flipped my radio over to a classic rock station and Van Halen bailed me out.  I changed stations just in time to catch the chorus of “Runnin’ with the Devil.”

Which of course is what the Suns are doing.  In rejecting Terry Porter’s slow-it-down-to-a-crawl offensive philosophy and returning to “ludicrous speed” as one commenter put it, Alvin Gentry and the Suns have chosen the devil they know over the devil they didn’t.

And why the hell not?  There’s rich irony in the Suns scoring 140 points in 3 consecutive games 18 years after, ahem, a Terry Porter-led offense did it the last time.  And a 3 game win streak (insert 13-win caveat here) is just what the doctor ordered for a team and a fanbase that was rapidly losing both faith and swagger.

This game was supposed to be the Amar’eless born-again run-and-fun Suns first real test, but that will apparently have to wait until Thursday’s tilt against the Lakers.  Which is not to say these Celtics, even without Kevin Garnett, are slouches.  Paul Pierce and Ray Allen are both legitimate threats to dominate this game given the Suns lack of a lockdown defender at either the 2 or the 3.  But when the defending champs are missing The Big Ticket, it does take a significant bite out of their game.

With any luck it will be a tight game.  As Alvin Gentry has already said, the 140 Or Bust offense will definitely be “bust” against the Association’s 2nd stingiest defense.  But I still think the Suns have the will and the momentum to turn this into a track meet.  If the Suns can control the tempo, I like their chances.  As creaky and aged as Steve Nash, Shaquille O’Neal and Grant Hill are, they’re at least practiced at the fine art of warp speed basketball giving them an edge over the Celtics’ reconstituted big 3 of Pierce, Allen and Rajon Rondo.

It’s going to be a battle of wills.  If the Suns can crank up the pace, I like their chances of stealing this one from Boston.  If the Celts manage to slow it down, it could be a long day and yet another nationally televised embarrassment for the Purple Gang. I’m calling it 117-110 for our boys.

Follow along in the comments.  Being a nationally televised game, I won’t be doing a live blog play-by-play, but I’ll be present with plenty o’ pith and snark.  Enjoy!

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Go Suns!

My favourite Greek team Panathinaikos will face Olympiacos in the Greek Cup Final, but I’m mainly going to watch the Suns game!

My body might be in Greece, but my mind and my heart is in Arizona. When the heck will I visit the Desert?

by Giannaros on Feb 22, 2009 9:24 AM MST reply actions  

not another disaster please

i live in the boston area, and being the only d-bag at the bar wearing purple and orange in a sea of drunken green and white while your team is gettling clubbed like a baby seal really doesn’t help the confrontations with that sea of green and white. Please, please, please no blowouts this afternoon, unless we are the one dishin it out. Keeping Leon Powe from playing above his head and turning Rondo into a jumpshooter is most of the battle. Hopefully Grant is ok after the mysterious minutes that happened on Friday nights, and he could have a good game on one of the Big 2. No smiles for Eddie House today. Go Suns!

"Hes very cerebral when he plays out there"--Hubie

by Snowbird on Feb 22, 2009 9:48 AM MST reply actions  

I feel you.

I live in Lakerland, which was freaking awesome during the playoffs of the previous four seasons (before last year’s flameout against the Spurs). But it’s not fun when the Suns are struggling.

I was out shopping at an outdoor mall when Kobe hit that jumper to win Game 4 of the playoffs 2 seasons ago and it looked like the Suns were done. I nearly threw my cell phone into a fountain when I heard all the Laker fans go nuts. I wanted to crawl into a hole and disappear. So here’s hoping for a W so you can rock the team colors with pride today!

by Mike Lisboa on Feb 22, 2009 10:36 AM MST up reply actions  

Our bench needs to play

well today. Barnes and Dragic need to play solid. Just hope Barnes is not jacking from the parking lot.
 Lets beat a good team today.

"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"

by Grockcubs on Feb 22, 2009 11:26 AM MST reply actions  

heard it on the radio

I like “7 seconds or Shaq” offense. Go Suns!

by STUCK IN LA on Feb 22, 2009 12:08 PM MST reply actions  

Parle

I wouldnt be surprised if Captain Barbosa has another great game. I’m not sayin dude’s gonna get another 40pt game, but he’ll make good things happen.

I have to say, I feel that LB is the short-term future of our team. Nash is on his way out, Amare is our franchise player but the team makes it seem like he’s on his way out. And besides those guys, there’s no players on the team that look to be staying here for a long period of time. LB has been here longer than anyone else (besides the previously stated 2). No, he’s not a good backup PG, especially when you have to backup one of he greatest PGs to ever play the game. But he’s definately a very quick, accurate, and smart player. His valu to the team is higher than most people think.

by KnowGood on Feb 22, 2009 12:28 PM MST reply actions  

I think LB

is on his way to becoming the next Marion on this team when it comes to defense. Smaller, even faster, better range, fewer dunks, and much less complaining. I don’t think he’ll be the franchise player, but more like the glue guy that does a lot of things very well, and would be sorely missed if traded.

by TexSUN on Feb 22, 2009 12:39 PM MST up reply actions  

Barbosa FTW!

My body might be in Greece, but my mind and my heart is in Arizona. When the heck will I visit the Desert?

by Giannaros on Feb 22, 2009 12:38 PM MST reply actions  

It looks like that Porter will never get another head coach job

by Falcao on Feb 22, 2009 12:41 PM MST reply actions  

Howdy...

Late to the party… i didn’t expect an actual 11:30 tipoff!

J-Rich lighting it up early, but really an uncontested Scalabrine dunk? Uncalled for.

by Mike Lisboa on Feb 22, 2009 12:41 PM MST reply actions  

ugh

I had the time wrong and didn’t even think the game started for another hour. grr. guess i’m going to be late too. (on the phone right now).

by TexSUN on Feb 22, 2009 12:43 PM MST up reply actions  

If anyone needs score updates, let me know.

17-13 Suns, 6:54 left in the First Quarter. No defense on either end so far.

by Mike Lisboa on Feb 22, 2009 12:44 PM MST up reply actions  

Coincidentally, I was in Arizona when the Suns fired Porter and so far it’s looking like a REALLY good move. Gentry really seems to know what he’s doing.

Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.

by SunDolphin on Feb 22, 2009 12:44 PM MST reply actions  

Ray Allen will kill us !

by Exoskeleton on Feb 22, 2009 12:45 PM MST reply actions  

Is Jeff Van Gundy reading this blog???

Nash, Hill, and Amare didn’t embrace Porter’s style? and Nash was passive-aggressive?

by brian13 on Feb 22, 2009 12:45 PM MST reply actions  

I know!

It’s awesome to hear him saying that!

by Mike Lisboa on Feb 22, 2009 12:46 PM MST up reply actions  

Track meet in full effect...

22-22 with just over 4 minutes to go in the 1st. It could be 4 in a row scoring 140. That hardly guarantees a victory though.

by Mike Lisboa on Feb 22, 2009 12:49 PM MST reply actions  

boston can't keep this up..

only reason they are in it is because they are shooting 8-10.

by brian13 on Feb 22, 2009 12:50 PM MST up reply actions  

keep repeating that

maybe Boston will start to believe it too.

Wouldn’t have to worry ’bout it IF we played with a little bit of DEFENSE.

I know, that’s a dirty word here.

Human thought is so primitive, it's looked upon as an infectious disease in some of the better galaxies. That kind of makes you proud, doesn't it?

by unnamedDBacksfan on Feb 22, 2009 12:59 PM MST up reply actions  

That'll play to our favor if we keep up on our end.

Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.

by SunDolphin on Feb 22, 2009 12:52 PM MST up reply actions  

Just tuned in

…gotta wait for the DVR to catch up with real time.

by TexSUN on Feb 22, 2009 12:50 PM MST reply actions  

Good luck!

Not much in the way of commercial breaks to get you up to speed.

by Mike Lisboa on Feb 22, 2009 12:51 PM MST up reply actions  

I can live with that

being able to fastforward through the commercials isn’t so bad.

by TexSUN on Feb 22, 2009 12:56 PM MST up reply actions  

Does anyone guard Ray Allen?

Can’t watch the game, but just by looking at GameCast it looks like Ray is playing by himself out there.

by T-Town on Feb 22, 2009 12:56 PM MST reply actions  

Had to be a wet spot.

He’s bringing it today though. Would like to see him look to pass just a skosh more.

by Mike Lisboa on Feb 22, 2009 1:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Dragic!

Got hosed on the foul call. But, hey, he’s in with the Suns down a couple! Gentry serious about increasing the rotations.

by Mike Lisboa on Feb 22, 2009 12:59 PM MST reply actions  

The Dragic-Amundson Pick and Roll

Not quite a thing of beauty yet, but it shows some promise.

by Mike Lisboa on Feb 22, 2009 1:01 PM MST reply actions  

The second line for the Suns...

is getting exposed. That said, I’m good with leaving them in this early. They need to figure out how to hold serve while the old guys get some rest.

by Mike Lisboa on Feb 22, 2009 1:04 PM MST reply actions  

Bad defense

There were also times we looked sloppy in offense

My body might be in Greece, but my mind and my heart is in Arizona. When the heck will I visit the Desert?

by Giannaros on Feb 22, 2009 1:06 PM MST reply actions  

End of 1Q, Celtics lead 38-33

Decent first quarter. The Suns will need more stops if they want to win this thing, but I like Gentry’s faith in his back-ups. These guys need confidence and unless they get blown off the floor, this can only help.

by Mike Lisboa on Feb 22, 2009 1:06 PM MST reply actions  

yup..

not the same d’antoni bench for gentry. he has been going 10 deep, but with amare gone its only 9.

by brian13 on Feb 22, 2009 1:09 PM MST up reply actions  

Come on Barnes!

At least he didn’t shoot the 3 :p

My body might be in Greece, but my mind and my heart is in Arizona. When the heck will I visit the Desert?

by Giannaros on Feb 22, 2009 1:14 PM MST reply actions  

Barnes trying to do too much.

Like the effort, but not the lack of basketball smarts.

by Mike Lisboa on Feb 22, 2009 1:14 PM MST reply actions  

+1

My body might be in Greece, but my mind and my heart is in Arizona. When the heck will I visit the Desert?

by Giannaros on Feb 22, 2009 1:15 PM MST up reply actions  

I'd heart Rondo

If he was on our team. Could have been. Sigh.

by TwinnerA on Feb 22, 2009 1:18 PM MST up reply actions  

Van Gundy's on fire today.

He also said that if Thunder Dan suited up, he’d automatically become the Suns best defender and 3-point shooter.

by Mike Lisboa on Feb 22, 2009 1:18 PM MST up reply actions  

Ever notice...

… how you never see Phoenix Stan and Jeff Van Gundy in the same room at the same time? Hmmmm…

by Mike Lisboa on Feb 22, 2009 1:20 PM MST up reply actions  

Aha!

That explains the passive-aggressive comment!

by brian13 on Feb 22, 2009 1:28 PM MST up reply actions  

Maybe Van Gundy's sensitive...

to defensive minded coaches getting fired. Or he’s auditioning for Kerr’s next big hire.

by presbot on Feb 22, 2009 1:31 PM MST up reply actions  

Take it to the hole…

by cabezonication on Feb 22, 2009 1:18 PM MST reply actions  

9 players have scored for us..

I like the way we’ve been spreading it around.

by brian13 on Feb 22, 2009 1:19 PM MST reply actions  

Did they really say that?

Worst. Nickname. Ever.

(Still haven’t quite caught up to real time)

by TexSUN on Feb 22, 2009 1:23 PM MST up reply actions  

Yes!

One more Shaq dive!

My body might be in Greece, but my mind and my heart is in Arizona. When the heck will I visit the Desert?

by Giannaros on Feb 22, 2009 1:23 PM MST reply actions  

Woo, O’neil dives into the stand !

by Exoskeleton on Feb 22, 2009 1:24 PM MST reply actions  

we have to keep it within 10

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Feb 22, 2009 1:26 PM MST reply actions  

Nice shot Barbs

My body might be in Greece, but my mind and my heart is in Arizona. When the heck will I visit the Desert?

by Giannaros on Feb 22, 2009 1:27 PM MST reply actions  

Kerr

Liked that interview. He gets it.

by Mike Lisboa on Feb 22, 2009 1:33 PM MST reply actions  

Damn, Rondo with a three. Cant’ believe it

by Exoskeleton on Feb 22, 2009 1:35 PM MST reply actions  

Refs. Are. TERRIBLE.

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Feb 22, 2009 1:35 PM MST reply actions  

+11

We must NOT lose control of the game

My body might be in Greece, but my mind and my heart is in Arizona. When the heck will I visit the Desert?

by Giannaros on Feb 22, 2009 1:37 PM MST reply actions  

Rondo is the guy that I fear the most on the C's

HOW THE FLURGE WAS THAT A BLOCKING FOUL?

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Feb 22, 2009 1:37 PM MST reply actions  

FUCK THOSE REFS!!!

My body might be in Greece, but my mind and my heart is in Arizona. When the heck will I visit the Desert?

by Giannaros on Feb 22, 2009 1:37 PM MST reply actions  

meh nash was sidestepping :(

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Feb 22, 2009 1:38 PM MST reply actions  

i thought you're allowed to backpedal, but not move laterally?

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Feb 22, 2009 1:39 PM MST up reply actions  

Yup.

Nash was moving. Good call.

by Mike Lisboa on Feb 22, 2009 1:38 PM MST up reply actions  

A player may continue to move after gaining a guarding position in the path of an opponent provided he is not moving directly or obliquely toward his opponent when contact occurs.

.. i still think it was a charge.

by brian13 on Feb 22, 2009 2:02 PM MST up reply actions  

Can't blame the refs.

Not a poor enough performance to warrant throwing them under the bus. Suns just need to calm down and execute.

by Mike Lisboa on Feb 22, 2009 1:38 PM MST reply actions  

They're outplaying the Suns

They deserve the props. Not to be NEGATIVE or anything.

by Mike Lisboa on Feb 22, 2009 1:39 PM MST up reply actions  

Agreed

Finally caught up to the live action. Celtics are making Phoenix Stan look like a genius.

by TexSUN on Feb 22, 2009 1:41 PM MST up reply actions  

i agree..

but he’s arguing against calls and against the suns players when they are arguing a call

by brian13 on Feb 22, 2009 1:42 PM MST up reply actions  

zomg rondo's good at math

GOAT

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Feb 22, 2009 1:41 PM MST reply actions  

JVG all kinds of astute.

The Suns need to shut up and play. Complaining = weakness. Execution in the face of adversity = strength.

by Mike Lisboa on Feb 22, 2009 1:43 PM MST reply actions  

Yep.

Suns could have traded Nash this season, moved Rondo to starter, and Presto! Instant defense-first/Spurs system.

by TexSUN on Feb 22, 2009 1:44 PM MST up reply actions  

That was my argument all along.

If you’re going to play like the Spurs, you can’t have bad defenders at PG,. PF, and Center position. You just can’t.

by TexSUN on Feb 22, 2009 1:45 PM MST up reply actions  

Of course now it's...

PG, PF, Center AND SG. When Grant Hill is your best defender, you’re NOT going to play Spurs-caliber defense, no matter who is coaching.

by TexSUN on Feb 22, 2009 1:47 PM MST up reply actions  

OK, now this is getting ugly

My body might be in Greece, but my mind and my heart is in Arizona. When the heck will I visit the Desert?

by Giannaros on Feb 22, 2009 1:44 PM MST reply actions  

lol flop

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Feb 22, 2009 1:44 PM MST reply actions  

aight can we call a time out?

and this is why you don’t trade away all of your competent defenders steve kerr

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Feb 22, 2009 1:44 PM MST reply actions  

+1

A time out would not have been a bad idea during that Celtics’ run at the end of the half.

by Mike Lisboa on Feb 22, 2009 1:50 PM MST up reply actions  

that should have been an over the back foul on the Cs

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Feb 22, 2009 1:45 PM MST reply actions  

Barnes shooting 3's was the last thing we needed

My body might be in Greece, but my mind and my heart is in Arizona. When the heck will I visit the Desert?

by Giannaros on Feb 22, 2009 1:45 PM MST reply actions  

End of 1st Half: Celtics 68, Suns 54

Oddly, I’m not terribly disheartened by this. Alvin Gentry needs to chill the fellas out at half time. If they can cut it to 7 in the 3rd, the Suns are still in it. If not, the Suns will allow 140 in a blowout.

by Mike Lisboa on Feb 22, 2009 1:48 PM MST reply actions  

truth

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Feb 22, 2009 1:49 PM MST up reply actions  

Great

He’s competing with Dragic. At least Goran is taking much more less 3’s than Matt

My body might be in Greece, but my mind and my heart is in Arizona. When the heck will I visit the Desert?

by Giannaros on Feb 22, 2009 1:54 PM MST up reply actions  

and this is a man

who wants more minutes. I would’ve cut his ass by now. Wanna drop cap space? There’s your guy. I expected more out of him, but its just not happeing. Call it funk, call it outright suck.

by KnowGood on Feb 22, 2009 1:58 PM MST up reply actions  

For anyone who dislikes our announcing crew...

…I give you Stuart Scott! I’m leaving the room now.

by Mike Lisboa on Feb 22, 2009 1:52 PM MST reply actions  

Announcing

Actually, the announcing isn’t bothering me much today. Sure it’s pro-Celtics a bit, but they’re not only the champs, they’re on pace to win this game by 28. Until the Suns show they belong on the same floor with this team, I think the announcing is fair.

by TexSUN on Feb 22, 2009 2:03 PM MST up reply actions  

The aboe doesn't apply to Stuart Scott

…I wasn’t in the room for that bit. I was referring to JVG and crew calling the game.

by TexSUN on Feb 22, 2009 2:04 PM MST up reply actions  

excuses

Human thought is so primitive, it's looked upon as an infectious disease in some of the better galaxies. That kind of makes you proud, doesn't it?

by unnamedDBacksfan on Feb 22, 2009 3:57 PM MST up reply actions  

Big men on the bench

You’ve got Rondo getting into the lane at will. No one can really stay in front of him. You need mobile big men that can come over and help…

If only we had a couple of those on the bench…oh wait. We do!

by Seth Pollack on Feb 22, 2009 1:54 PM MST reply actions  

put sims in

can’t do worse than the bench already

by STUCK IN LA on Feb 22, 2009 2:00 PM MST up reply actions  

eric lewis

eric lewis sucks at being a ref. replace him suns!!!

by rak on Feb 22, 2009 1:54 PM MST reply actions  

it's not just missing shots

it’s an off-game in every aspect, from getting unnecessary fouls to missing layups, to knocking the ball out of bounds and getting called on defensive 3 seconds. I hope Nash and Gentry get their team’s HEADS IN THE GAME over half. We need to come out burning hot to have any chance here.

by PHXgp on Feb 22, 2009 2:03 PM MST reply actions  

Good start

Nash gets me back for dogging his defense by getting the steal and the three.

by TexSUN on Feb 22, 2009 2:07 PM MST reply actions  

Ok, scratch that

A reverse, reverse jinx I guess.

by TexSUN on Feb 22, 2009 2:08 PM MST up reply actions  

it's just not happening.

The Suns obviously dont want to be there

by PHXgp on Feb 22, 2009 2:09 PM MST reply actions  

Suns lucked out on that one

Nash with the charge, after it looked like he was going to be boxed out by JRich(?) on the play.

by TexSUN on Feb 22, 2009 2:11 PM MST reply actions  

rondo is unstoppable

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Feb 22, 2009 2:11 PM MST reply actions  

Rondo is not unstoppable

We are just refusing to even try to stop him. If you give someone the lane and a wide iopen basket, they should be able to score.

by PHXgp on Feb 22, 2009 2:12 PM MST up reply actions  

I need to pause this and go away for awhile

The Suns were doing better when I was watching it on time delay.

by TexSUN on Feb 22, 2009 2:12 PM MST reply actions  

The Suns defense is atrocious.

If Nash isn’t going to defend (he can’t, to be fair), then he needs to make it happen at the other end. Nothing is falling from outside for the Suns so it doesn’t look good at this point.

by Mike Lisboa on Feb 22, 2009 2:13 PM MST reply actions  

+1

He tries but it just ain’t there.

by TexSUN on Feb 22, 2009 2:14 PM MST up reply actions  

If you gonna Run'N'Gun against a team like the Celtics...

…you either have to get some stops or MASTER your offense. Neither is happening…

My body might be in Greece, but my mind and my heart is in Arizona. When the heck will I visit the Desert?

by Giannaros on Feb 22, 2009 2:13 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

PHXgp

At least one thing good coming out of this – a new member. Welcome to our humble abode!

by TexSUN on Feb 22, 2009 2:13 PM MST reply actions  

Geek note

“Watchmen” can’t get here fast enough.

by Mike Lisboa on Feb 22, 2009 2:14 PM MST reply actions  

Totally

And I’ve only bee waiting for 12 years for that movie.

by presbot on Feb 22, 2009 2:14 PM MST up reply actions  

Get thee to a bookstore/library

It’s a fantastic graphic novel. Arguably the best meta-comic ever.

by Mike Lisboa on Feb 22, 2009 2:17 PM MST up reply actions  

There's a point at which a team doesn't deserve to make the playoffs.

That point is rapidly approaching. I’d feel better if we were actually trying, but the APATHY is pretty overwhelming.

by PHXgp on Feb 22, 2009 2:14 PM MST reply actions  

I don't think it's apathy

I think they just lack the defensive skillz.

by Mike Lisboa on Feb 22, 2009 2:15 PM MST up reply actions  

even someone with limited skills...

….can out their body into the lane and just get between their guy and the goal.

by PHXgp on Feb 22, 2009 2:16 PM MST up reply actions  

I love LB

In fact, I think I’ll just watch him the rest of the game, and stop watching the score. That was just amazing. One minute, he’s totally behind the defense, the next he’s at the rim.

…and now he hits the three.

by TexSUN on Feb 22, 2009 2:17 PM MST reply actions  

this is bad

i have a feeling someone is going to get hurt in the game, whether it be a player or ref

by rak on Feb 22, 2009 2:17 PM MST reply actions  

Barbosa...

Does everything J-Rich can do 2X times better (at this point)!

My body might be in Greece, but my mind and my heart is in Arizona. When the heck will I visit the Desert?

by Giannaros on Feb 22, 2009 2:18 PM MST reply actions  

I don't know...

I’m quite dissapointed of him. Misses a lot of shots and is quite sloppy at times on offense. You might be right though

My body might be in Greece, but my mind and my heart is in Arizona. When the heck will I visit the Desert?

by Giannaros on Feb 22, 2009 2:20 PM MST up reply actions  

Anyone think....

…that Dragic could be someday put into the game as a decent distributer and better defender?

by PHXgp on Feb 22, 2009 2:19 PM MST reply actions  

Um, some day.

But I wouldn’t hold my breath either.

by Mike Lisboa on Feb 22, 2009 2:20 PM MST up reply actions  

Yep

I actually think that’s where the Suns were going with this pick. Hasn’t panned out so far, but maybe someday.

by TexSUN on Feb 22, 2009 2:21 PM MST up reply actions  

I guess we could say...

…with some practice and some luck, maybe someday he’ll be Rondo.

by TexSUN on Feb 22, 2009 2:21 PM MST up reply actions  

lol how sad is that statement

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Feb 22, 2009 2:22 PM MST up reply actions  

Deficit is "down" to 12

After Grant Hill.

..not for long. Ray Allen with the three. Gotta stop with those positive comments.

by TexSUN on Feb 22, 2009 2:25 PM MST reply actions  

jared dudley stepping up

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Feb 22, 2009 2:27 PM MST reply actions  

why is steve nash guarding paul pierce?

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Feb 22, 2009 2:27 PM MST reply actions  

Why is Steve Nah guarding anyone?

Earlier comment from the announcers: “Suns should put Nash on Scalabrine”. Not sure who that insults more.

by TexSUN on Feb 22, 2009 2:28 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

misses the free throw?

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Feb 22, 2009 2:29 PM MST reply actions  

LB taking over

Lead “down” to 12 again…um…never mind. Negative thoughts, negative thoughts…

by TexSUN on Feb 22, 2009 2:29 PM MST reply actions  

No way!

I’m going positive here. Suns with a chance to cut it to 12 after some defense that can best be described as “not embarrassing.”

by Mike Lisboa on Feb 22, 2009 2:30 PM MST up reply actions  

Cut it to 10.

And I guess I should have described that D as “encouraging”.

by Mike Lisboa on Feb 22, 2009 2:31 PM MST up reply actions  

matty barnes? wtf

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Feb 22, 2009 2:31 PM MST reply actions  

Barnes with a MADE 3 POINTER.

That’s the power of positive thinking.

by Mike Lisboa on Feb 22, 2009 2:31 PM MST reply actions  

dang it, back to 13

lou amundson should never shoot the ball

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Feb 22, 2009 2:32 PM MST reply actions  

he used to make those

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Feb 22, 2009 2:34 PM MST up reply actions  

LB heat check

At the buzzer. Falls short.

by TexSUN on Feb 22, 2009 2:34 PM MST reply actions  

End of 3Q: Celtics 96, Suns 83

At this point, I advocate bombing away. If the Suns are going to truly embrace drowning their opponents with offense, let’s uncork the 3 ball from Nash, J-Rich, Barbosa and even Matty Ice. The Suns are not going to win with defense. May as well go down swinging.

by Mike Lisboa on Feb 22, 2009 2:35 PM MST reply actions  

+1

Defense didn’t show up at all, but what’s killing the Suns is that their offense apparently slept in too. More zip, less standing around.

by TexSUN on Feb 22, 2009 2:38 PM MST up reply actions  

Dragic

Kudos to Gentry for letting the kid get some minutes and you know, learn the NBA game.

by Mike Lisboa on Feb 22, 2009 2:40 PM MST reply actions  

Is there such a thing as a good travel?

He turned it over, but it was at least in an aggressive attempt at some O.

by Mike Lisboa on Feb 22, 2009 2:43 PM MST up reply actions  

Lead down to 9

on a 3 ball. Too bad the Celtics still have Ray Allen to tie it up with a 3 of his own.

by Mike Lisboa on Feb 22, 2009 2:41 PM MST reply actions  

Tie it up

I’m an idiot. I mean re-extend the effing lead.

by Mike Lisboa on Feb 22, 2009 2:42 PM MST up reply actions  

I'd leave Dragic in

…for the rest of the game. If the Suns aren’t going to run anyway, then keep the guy with the better defense running the show.

by TexSUN on Feb 22, 2009 2:44 PM MST reply actions  

Big run or bust.

The game is officially slipping away here.

by Mike Lisboa on Feb 22, 2009 2:44 PM MST reply actions  

In addition to 3-second defensive violations...

… I think we’re also seeing some record for charging/blocking calls that could have gone either way. Lots of defenders standing in front of barreling offensive players.

by Mike Lisboa on Feb 22, 2009 2:45 PM MST reply actions  

Yep, so question....

Would the Suns, fully bought into Terry Porter’s system and with Amare have won this game if the Celtics had Garnett?

by TexSUN on Feb 22, 2009 2:47 PM MST up reply actions  

no way in hell.

How does having Amare help their defense at all?

Terry Porter’s “system” caused the Suns to be in a multiple-personality mode which doesn’t help defense or offense.

With KG in this game, it’s over after the first quarter. Shaq fouls out, Amundson left to guard KG?

by PHXgp on Feb 22, 2009 2:49 PM MST up reply actions  

That was a pre-emptive strike...

…at what is likely to be the mother of all “I told you so!”’s from Phoenix Stan after the Suns just tailor made his point that this system will not work against any semblance of good teams.

by TexSUN on Feb 22, 2009 2:51 PM MST up reply actions  

dang...harsh

I made my point before not so I could say “I told you so” but b/c calling something a bust after the fact isn’t exactly….interesting

I also said we would know more about this system after 10 games not one

I also predicted in the podcast the Suns would win this game

by Seth Pollack on Feb 22, 2009 3:34 PM MST up reply actions  

Shaq trying to get tossed?

ABC clearly showed him mouthing off an expletive after the tech call.

by TexSUN on Feb 22, 2009 2:47 PM MST reply actions  

Oh, and this is my least informed Oscar season ever.

And as a straight man, I unapologetically think Hugh Jackman is positively dreamy.

by Mike Lisboa on Feb 22, 2009 2:50 PM MST reply actions  

Couldn't care less

I never watch the Oscars. Nor many of the movies nominated for them either for that matter.

by TexSUN on Feb 22, 2009 2:52 PM MST up reply actions  

I'll watch

but as usual I haven’t seen any of the movies nominated (or any movies in the theater this year for that matter). I just watch to see the stars.

by TwinnerA on Feb 22, 2009 2:56 PM MST up reply actions  

go see slumdog millionaire, it's excellent

i hear gran torino is good as well

Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."

by rsavaj on Feb 22, 2009 4:24 PM MST up reply actions  

I do plan to see Slumdog Millionaire

unless it’s out on DVD and then I’ll rent it. I really do need to get to the movies more often.

by TwinnerA on Feb 22, 2009 7:29 PM MST up reply actions  

I don't watch either..

I’ll be watching the UofA vs ASU game though.

by brian13 on Feb 22, 2009 2:58 PM MST up reply actions  

Hey, if the Suns can win 75% of their games the rest of the way

…they make the playoffs.

/end pathetic attempt at positive thinking

by TexSUN on Feb 22, 2009 2:53 PM MST up reply actions  

One more loss televised by national TV...

And our longest winning streak remains at 3… At least Panathinaikos won the Cup!

My body might be in Greece, but my mind and my heart is in Arizona. When the heck will I visit the Desert?

by Giannaros on Feb 22, 2009 2:53 PM MST reply actions  

Never mind

When I can’t tell JRich from Grant Hill…

…it’s time to buy a new TV. Or new glasses.

by TexSUN on Feb 22, 2009 2:55 PM MST up reply actions  

Sorry

…I long since relegated this game to “background noise” in favor of surfing the web. To quote the great ClipperSteve, if the Suns only have to play half a game, then I only have to watch half a game.

by TexSUN on Feb 22, 2009 2:58 PM MST up reply actions  

And yes,

This game begs for Dragic to finish it out.

by Mike Lisboa on Feb 22, 2009 2:56 PM MST up reply actions  

J-Dud

with the active hands. I see his minutes increasing.

by Mike Lisboa on Feb 22, 2009 2:56 PM MST reply actions  

Good night guys

I’m off

My body might be in Greece, but my mind and my heart is in Arizona. When the heck will I visit the Desert?

by Giannaros on Feb 22, 2009 2:58 PM MST reply actions  

Maybe Gentry is sending a message?

…to Nash? Can’t think of any other reason for him to be int he game other than maybe trying to embarrass him into playing better defense.

by TexSUN on Feb 22, 2009 3:00 PM MST reply actions  

..and this time Grant Hill IS in the game

…Why? I know the Suns have done last-minute comebacks from way down before, but this just doesn’t feel like one of those times to me.

by TexSUN on Feb 22, 2009 3:01 PM MST up reply actions  

At the very least

I think you may have a point. He’s challenging the pride of his starters.

by Mike Lisboa on Feb 22, 2009 3:02 PM MST up reply actions  

Most telling moment of the game.

If you hadn’t been aware of how completely overmatched Nash is by Rondo, Rajon just walked the ball into the lane like he was sizing up his little brother. He is completely unafraid of Captain Canada.

by Mike Lisboa on Feb 22, 2009 3:01 PM MST reply actions  

I think they're treating this game as ...

…practice for now. I can’t think of any other reason for the starters to be in there. Risky move given that one more injury pretty much sticks the fork into the season if it wasn’t already.

by TexSUN on Feb 22, 2009 3:07 PM MST up reply actions  

Listening to Mike Breen

…and playing devil’s advocate for the moment…

What if…

The Suns had truly bought into Terry Porter’s system, and tried their guts out to learn defense, and master the half-court game….

…would Breen be saying that “he has made them better individual defenders” ?

..I say no, given the age of the Suns’ players in question, but in fairness to both sides, it’s a question worth posing.

by TexSUN on Feb 22, 2009 3:10 PM MST reply actions  

To be honest

I thought Kerr would keep Porter and there would be trades and there wasn’t, so I guess we’ll never know the answer to the “interesting question.”

by TwinnerA on Feb 22, 2009 7:30 PM MST up reply actions  

Season/career highs galore

Rondo career high
Somebody else (Scalabrine?) season high
Celtics as a team = season high

…can’t tell if the PHX crowd is booing, or cheering that the massacre is over.

Off to rest my eyes now. They’re sore after sitting through that.

by TexSUN on Feb 22, 2009 3:14 PM MST reply actions  

Aight, y'all...

Thanks for playing along. I’m off to recap this thing. See you next time!

by Mike Lisboa on Feb 22, 2009 3:14 PM MST reply actions  

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