Suns crush Kings but will it save Amare's job?
Well Suns fans, that was fun. Not so much for the game but because I drank too much and sat with a great group of rabid Suns fans.
Chanting D-Fence and booing the ref's while up by 50 in the fourth quarter has it's own special charm that transcends the actual game. I doubt Goran Dragic has heard his name chanted since coming to America.
You should already have heard about the adventures of the Destination Phoenix Down Under Crew on Planet Orange.net as they shadowed the team from Toronto through the rest of the road trip on back to Phoenix where they were given the royal treatment by the entire Suns organization.
After talking to these great guys and reading their story, you really have to hand it to the Suns for rolling out the red carpet for a group of fans that went to such lengths to support their team. (check out the video highlights here)
We love to throw stones at Kerr and Griffin from our armchairs when we disagree with their moves but you have to give them credit for understanding that the fans are their customers and for being down to earth good people.
Thanks (I think) also to Bright Side of the Sun member Turambar and his buddy James for introducing me to Seamus McCaffrey's Irish Car Bombs. You guys might be Brophy grads but you are still ok.
The game itself was a laugher due in equal parts to the Suns being more aggressive and focused early and a Kings team that played yesterday and looked about as listless and lifeless as you could possibly imagine.
So, while Amare wants to "bottle this game" and Grant and JRich talked about running more and playing loose it's not a game that we should think too much about unless the Suns can roll off 4 or 5 wins going into the all star break. We've already seen how well this team can play this season and we've seen how quickly they can get into a slump. One game doesn't change anything even if it was the biggest blowout in the history of the US Airway Center.
Post game audio provided by Sports 620 KTAR
And for the big question - will a decent game by Amare cause Kerr to rethink the deals that he's currently working? I don't think so.
The word I am getting is that the decision has been made and Amare will be gone sooner rather then later in a move that has been described as addition by subtraction (we've heard that one before haven't we?) and will seek to yeild a great player named Cap Space.
I've argued for patience with Amare but at this point have to agree that it's time for him to go. I just hope the Suns can get a little more then just cap space in return. He has real value to teams like the Bulls, Kings or Bucks and should at least bring back some combination of draft picks and young big men like Hawes or Tyrus Thomas.
Box Score * Sactown Royalty * Game Quotes
Steve Kerr Moron Meter
At the suggestion of RottPhiler in the comments we are awarding Steve Kerr with two genius points.
The frist Genius Point is awarded for the classy way the Suns treated the Down Under Destination Phoenix Crew (as described above). I am just so impressed with how the team opened their arms to these guys are immediately recognized how special this situation is. Sports is still entertainment and fans are still customers. I am a fan of good business and decent people and Genius Point is the result.
The second Genius Point is for three of his guys - Hill, Richardson and Dudley who all played like super studs against the Kings.
Hill (despite an embarassing miss in a dunk and a layup) was 5-9 and played his usual stellar role as aging wise floor leader.
JRich was 10-12 and set the tone by being aggressive and active. His defense was helped by the fact that Kevin Martin couldn't hit the broad side of a barn but clearly came to play. Speaking of Barnes by the way, he was 0-4 from three bringing his 3P% to a dismal 26%. Way to keep firing away there Mattie.
Dudley in garbage time had 5 rebounds and 5 steals in 12 minutes. Granted, the Kings had long since given up the ghost but I certainly think he could get more minutes if by chance a certain tattoo'd malcontent was traded along with another certain unhapp'y pl'ayer.
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It is so depressing reading about an Amare trade.. on the other hand.. Irish Car Bombs are quite delicious.
by bangbang240 on Feb 3, 2009 11:27 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Irish Carbomb
This lovely concoction requires a half glass of Guiness and a shot of 1/2 Baileys and 1/2 Irish Wiskey. At this point you drop the shot into the beer and chug.
Rince wash and repeat, but not too much, this drink is strong.
"Yeah I could have been king, but maybe I already am king. Hail to the king baby." Ash from Army of Darkness
by Turambar on Feb 3, 2009 12:18 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
last night was like when a cheating spouse buys you a ring.
Its nice and all but your just bracing for the next let down. Amare had his chance this season, he really did but after all the talk coupled with lackluster/inconsistent performances pre and post goggles, its time to move on. I love Amare, at times he seems unstoppable but if he is unwilling or unable to put out consistent effort every night there’s no point in keeping him around. There’s bound to be other players who may not be as talented as STAT out there that will give 100% every time they’re on the floor. Its been great stat and I hope you have fun on your next team.
by STUCK IN LA on Feb 3, 2009 11:34 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
Im sick
of everyone making amare the scapegoat, he’s not whats wrong with this team. Im probably the only one that feels this way but trading amare will be a HUGE mistake.
by Wichita SunSteeler on Feb 3, 2009 11:45 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
I could be wrongly accusing STAT
for the downfall this season but I am just sick of his all show, no go approach. I think ghandi said something like “be the change you want” and thats what STAT needed to do this season be “the man” stop telling us why your not yet.
by STUCK IN LA on Feb 3, 2009 11:54 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe the cancer was misdiagnosed?
I have wondered for quite some time whether Amare and not Marion, Bell, Diaw, etc. was the real “cancer” on the team. I mean, how much fun can it really be going to work every day with someone who constantly proclaims himself the best player on the team, gripes when he’s not the center of attention, pouts and shuts down his game when he’s not getting his touches, etc. Then again, there was plenty of that from Marion (who at least seemed to take out his frustration with his so-called lack of respect by playing even harder to prove a point more often than not) and apparently behind the scenes from Bell. So, maybe the cancer was just wider-spread than initially thought, rather than outright misdiagnosed.
In any case, if the Suns really are ready to swap Amare for Cap Space, then it means (a) they’ve given up on the season and are now ready to get the best lottery position possible in this one year they actually DO get to keep their pick or (b) Amare’s attitude is even much, MUCH worse than has been visible to the media. If (a) is the thinking, then it is all-out “blow it up” time at best, and “wait for 2010” time at worse (in either case, the only decent thing is to send Nash and Shaq to an Eastern Conference contender if it can be done without hurting the bottom line). If (b) is the thinking, than it’s too bad the Suns didn’t figure it out sooner, because I would love to have seen what this team could have been with D’Antoni still at the helm, Amare’s ego in another city, Diaw (no doubt rejuvenated by the increased responsibility), Bell, and yes, even Shaq (although I would still have preferred KG or a more run-and-gun-friendly center). Oh well, hind-sight and all…
by TexSUN on Feb 3, 2009 11:49 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Amare for Marion?
The Heat becomes a beast, and the chastened prodigal gets a triumphant homecoming.
by SoCalSun on Feb 3, 2009 12:17 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
for Trix + Chalmers
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on Feb 3, 2009 2:42 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't really been keeping up on this behind the scenes stuff...
Where has it been said that Amar’e will definitely be traded? Or is all of this stuff implicit in the way things have been going and what the media have been saying?
by whatisboxhappening on Feb 3, 2009 12:30 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Amare Trade
What can we get for him? Bosh? Biedrins? Hirich+Noah+something?
Can we get Duncan for Amare? Duncan can space the floor and shoot the 3.
By the way, will anyone give us a min salary, half decent point guard for Matt Barnes? CJ Watson? Ramon Sessions? Even Will Solomon?
by gadogry on Feb 3, 2009 1:08 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I'll be damned
Tim Duncan will never be a Sun. And BTW, Amare definately shoots the 3 better than Timmy.
I’m sure Amare is going to be traded, but I think it’ll backfire and we’ll see it happen quicker than we thought. I also read that Kerr and Porter met with people in Atlanta. So what could be doin there? The only player I’d think tht would be good would be JJ…and he wont come back here.
by KnowGood on Feb 3, 2009 1:14 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Of course
Timmy is not gonna come. The salaries don’t quite match either. Amare makes 15M and Timmy 20M this year, and Timmy’s contract is even longer than Amare’s.
Suns/Spurs doing a deal would be hilarious. Maybe they can do a 26-player, roster swapping trade. That’d be surreal.
But seriously, what’s the point for rebuilding now? It’s hard to imagine we can get a guy that could be an elite player in a few years (i.e. LeBron/Wade/Paul/Oden/Durant/Rose that kind of thing). So we give us our (admittedly slim) chance of competing for the future…. but do we have any hope in the future? Do we have any building blocks? Can you imagine Dragic/Tucker/Lopez being starters on a championship team in their careers?
by gadogry on Feb 3, 2009 1:33 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Amare being traded for Cap Space??
I really like Kerr, so could we please give him two Genius Points for Dudley and JRich playing so well yesterday, before the inevitable 5 Moron Points, for trading Amare for Cap Space?? :(
Whats up doc?
by RottPhiler on Feb 3, 2009 1:16 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Nice call
Consider it done
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by Phoenix Stan on Feb 3, 2009 1:31 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Inevitable 5000000000 moron points for trading Amare for Cap Space
You don’t trade Amare for cap space. EVER. You trade him for a players who can HELP THIS TEAM, not fracking cap space.
I’m going to punch a hobo and then kick a kitten if he gets traded in a cap move.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
by rsavaj on Feb 3, 2009 2:43 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
The Matrix would be perfect.
A huge expiring contract and a player who can play PF for the rest of the season.
by stampchez on Feb 3, 2009 1:32 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Sarver continues to believe?
Isn’t this what he said shortly before shipping Marion out last year?
Mmmmm ... Guinness
by JSun on Feb 3, 2009 2:06 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
That is...
…EXACTLY what I thought of when I heard Sarver’s comments.
by Silkster on Feb 3, 2009 9:24 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope
Kerr doesn’t trade Amare for cap space alone.
Quality role players + Cap space for Amare sounds good to me
by Azrael on Feb 3, 2009 3:01 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Speculation and rumors!
Depressing time on Planet Orange which doesn’t glow as bright anymore, could be the pollution or global warming, but at any rate the most recent rumors and speculations on the Suns trading is Amar’e for Marvin Williams and Josh Smith w/ a decent pick. I personally like this trade and I would hate to see my favorite player blast off from Planet Orange but these guys hustle night in and night out. Also, there are to many mouths to feed on these team and Amar’e talks the loudest so how do you not expect him to be the scape goat.
Think its bad now wait until the rebuilding process starts next year! We won’t be able to keep him quiet. Start the countdown Kerr and land a decent trade.
by JuicyJuice on Feb 4, 2009 12:12 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Not bad
Josh Smith is solid and exciting and Marvin is improving. I would love to send Barnes though. We can’t take on another small forward without dumping one and Barnes is totally dumpable imho.
I did hear somewhere that ATL was part of the discussion but hadn’t heard these names before
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by Phoenix Stan on Feb 4, 2009 12:23 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
Your right about Barnes. He is playing terrible right now and I think that he thinks he is with Golden State still w/ his one pass shoot thinking. Disappointing really cuz’ i had high hopes for him. Oh well…. Feels more like Planet Blue around here lately…
by JuicyJuice on Feb 4, 2009 1:18 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Planet Blue
that’s great….that just begs for some creative photoshoppery. Any takers?
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by Phoenix Stan on Feb 4, 2009 3:03 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I would love to use photo shop. Sadly the extent of my computer knowledge is only typing comments and emails, punching the letters in one key at a time
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