These are just trades I generated using ESPN’s trade machine. All of them involve getting a young, talented big man back, that has the ability to rebound, and also maybe a backup PG:

To Tortonto, for Chris Bosh and Jamario Moon (or maybe Jason Kapono)
To Portland, for LaMarcus Aldridge, Sergio Rodriguez, and another piece.
To Charlotte, for Emeka Okafor, Raymond Felton, and Adam Morrison.
To Memphis, for Marc Gasol, Rudy Gay, and Mike Conley.
To Denver, for Nene and J.R. Smith
To Atlanta, for Joe Johnson and Al Horford
To Minnesota, for Al Jefferson and Rashad McCants

I think most of it is about Amare because he’s the most movable. However, you’d think Shaq would be very movable this season. He’s played very well, he has a contract that expires in that magical summer.

Love 2 trades there- Camby & 1st rd pick and of course the Smith and Williams trade. But let me propose a question- Besides A’m’a’r’e’s’ scoring, what other skills does he have that improves this team??

I admit that I am a super-fan of the STATman but for me the shock and ah of his raw talent has passed for me. All I can see is a big flashy ego that doesn’t back up his “Gorilla Game” and ability to be the man. What do you think??

Love 2 trades there- Camby & 1st rd pick and of course the Smith and Williams trade. But let me propose a question- Besides A’m’a’r’e’s’ scoring, what other skills does he have that improves this team??

I admit that I am a super-fan of the STATman but for me the shock and ah of his raw talent has passed for me. All I can see is a big flashy ego that doesn’t back up his “Gorilla Game” and ability to be the man. What do you think??

The possible trade of Amare has no sense if we don’t get a power forward, a shooter forward and a point guard in return.
To Portland, for LaMarcus Aldridge, Sergio Rodriguez, and another piece, to be possible Outlaw, is not bad at all.
I’d not like to see Marion back.
Kerr prefers to trade Amare because trading Sacq would admit his mistake of last year

If the Mavs star losing I think Dirk would be available. That trade would certainly help both teams.

everyone might have a problem answering the question proposed. How does Amar’e imporve are team besides scoring?

I think if a trade for Amare HAS to include a double-digit rebounder who can play defense, otherwise it’s pointless. We have plenty of people who can pick up his scoring. About the only exception I’d have is LaMarcus Aldridge, who has similar numbers (20-ish points, and 8ish rebounds) as Amare, but he’s got a lot more upside.

New York would almost certainly pull the trigger on this deal, if Phoenix were interested.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2772281727827391727&teams=2121212118&te=&cash=

Cap space to the tune of $7.6M, plus David Lee and Nate Robinson. (You guys can waive Anthony Roberson – he’s in there for salary purposes). Lee would be a beast next to Shaq.

the trade options cropping up all over this site…. Bosh, Nowitzki, Lee, Aldridge, even Millsap!! (Jerry sloan seems to be the kind of coach who wouuld probably retire first before taking on a headcase like Amare).

Of course all this trade options are put up mainly by suns fanatics and thus all look like pipe dreams, LOL. But still i cant get myself to stop looking in at this site…. and im in a damned company meeting right now!!!

"I definitely think my defense has improved," he said. "(As far as rebounding), I’ve got Shaq down there. I can’t get 15 rebounds a night with the big fella taking up all the space."

This MAN just doesnt get it…. we dont care if he only gets 5 rebounds coz he’s busy boxing out for Shaq or the others. Its the 8-9 rebounds game he usually have where he looks disinterested on defense and most of his boards just falls into his lap

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=1503213241134231727&teams=21212111&te=&cash=

Any trade with the Hawks would HAVE to include Al Horford, in my humble opinion.

I don’t understand the need for an Amare trade. He is a great young player, and it will be very difficult to get equal value in return. I would rather see the Suns miss the playoffs next year, than risk not having a player of Amare’s caliber for the next 5 years.

On another note, each move Kerr has executed has made the team a little worse. First Shaq, then letting go of D’Antoni, and lastly the Jason Richardson trade. Each move seemed defensible at the time, but the net result has been a vastly less effective team.

I’d like to see more blame on Kerr for ruining a wonderful team.

If there is ANY possibility of him snapping out of it then we should keep him. At the end of the day theres really no other player at his size with his skill set (quickness, boards and jumper). That said, if he really is just habitually indolent (and nothing can change it) then its best to get rid of him. If we’re concerned about winning near-term then Aldridge and Bosh are really only comparable players that minimize any loss on our part. Like I said playing AT HIS POTENTIAL hes one of the few players (e.g. lebron or howard) for whom unloading would virtually always be a losing strategy. From our point of view its just hard to tell whether or not he will ever bother to care enough.

I should also say that I’ve been pretty skeptical of Kerr, although I think the JRich move might prove to be a good one, though perhaps not until things have settled down and its clear to him (and the other players) what in the hell this team is actually trying to do.

Every rumor I’m hearing is terrible. The Suns get garbage in return and expiring contracts. I certainly hope none of them are true. However, given this economy and the Suns’ owner, I think the Suns are in for a dark age of cheapness along the lines of the Grizzlies.

Of the deals that seem realistic, according to “sources” in various stories, I think Stoudemire going to Portland for Aldridge and Raef LaFrentz, and to Miami for Beasley and Marion are the best we’re going to get. I pray that we don’t do any kind of deal with the Bulls (at least involving Stoudemire). They have absolutely nothing interesting but Luol Deng.

Get RID OF KERR…. and Their NEW COACH…. if they trade Amare then the SUNS organization can go to HELL!!!! I’m sick of them getting a cohesive team and then when they don’t win a championship…they gut it and start over. The loyalty of the fans comes with the loyalty of the front office to the players….

DUMP KERR!!!!! BAD THINGS HAVE OCCURRED SINCE HE CAME ON BOARD!!!

As a heat fan, I don’t believe for one second that we rejected a Amare for Beasley / Marion offer. If that offer is out there we’d pounce on it in a heart beat. Amare is the power forward that everyone down here is hoping Beasley will develop into.

That would be a grand slam for Miami.

portland isn’t going to trade aldridge. period. he’s not as explosive as amare but he does just about everything else as good or better than him, plus he’s younger. i don’t think bayless would be in any deal they’d be making either…he’s a rook, he’s good…they can see him and roy double combo guarding the backcourt for at least the next 5 years. the best you could hope from from them would be the lafrentz expirer, one of their small forwards but probably not rudy, and rodriguez….none of that helps you guys but steve kerr is calling the shots so you never know.

the okc thing is intriguing but i think they like their guys, and like their chances for getting blake griffin in the draft which would fill their need for amare. their 3 guys that you would want (4 if you count wilcox but if youve watched him you know you dont want him) arent going anywhere i dont think.

the sheed for amare thing helps for a year or two but the guy isnt far from becoming a non-factor despite his previous awesomeness.

i can’t really wrap my head around why you guys (or anyone in the suns org) wants to move him so badly. this is basically steve kerr’s fault for imploding what was a team that was one nba screwing away (amare/boris 2 steps toward a guy = ENDANGERMENT bs etc) from being in the west finals right? this is what you get for pressing the panic button too early. steve kerr has shown himself to be almost wholly incomptent but somehow it’s all amare’s fault? i don’t know, i know he can be hard to stomach but again…there’s not really another guy like him in the league…when you take away everything that played to his strengths and replace all that with things that expose his weaknesses and make him worse do you blame him? wouldn’t you be pissed off if your new boss strolled in at your job and did something like that to you?

Well, it’s sure seeming like everyone’s confident Phoenix will be getting Marion and Beasley for Stoudemire, based on all the reading I’ve done (and I haven’t had much else to do today). Seems like a good enough deal, if the Suns are confident they can’t move Shaq and/or Nash instead. If they do trade with Miami, it’d be nice to see if they could also snag Udonis Haslem.

Any trade involving Toronto doesn’t really make sense unless the Suns get Bosh, or Calderon, such as this one:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=34231727323898188319772806&teams=282882821821&te=&cash=

We would have him if we didn’t draft Casey Jacobsen!!!!!!!!

I humbly say we will trade you whatever we can to get Studemire. The Suns are the only other team in the NBA that I follow, with former W’s members JRich and Barnes. Let there be peace and understanding between our two teams.

Maxiell could become a 10 and 10 guy if he got more playing time

I’m assuming the only reason the Suns would have nixed a trade for Marion/Beasley is because Aldridge or Bosh may be available, or they’re going to keep Amare, because that was by far the best trade rumor floating around. But, I wouldn’t be too shocked if we do a retarded trade with the Bulls that doesn’t include Derrick Rose.

The more I think about all this, the more I think Amare, at least, won’t get moved until early next week. They probably will let him play out the All-Star game as a starter to avoid any kind of mess there with re-assignments and such.

I’m actually kind of surprised at how little I’ve heard about Kerr’s potential moves. I mean, we have lots of people from other cities speculating about what their team is offering the Suns for Amare, but not much talking about what Kerr is likely to do, or from any sources within the Suns organization. Then again, I didn’t hear anything at all about the J-Rich trade, and very little about the Marion-for-Shaq trade until they happened.

Now that I’ve been thinking on it, a trade to Golden State for a package revolving around Andris Biedrins and Anthony Randolph wouldn’t be a bad consolation prize. I forgot how young Biedrins is, and he’s a guaranteed double-double.

I like a Biedrins, Turiaf, Randolph, and pick trade. If it’s for 2009, it could be a good pick, too. But it doesn’t really cut costs much.

A Memphis trade is good if it involves Marc Gasol and Rudy Gay, or Marc Gasol and OJ Mayo.

Neither of those trades seem to bring back expiring contracts, but I was listening to Gambo and Ash, as well, when those were mentioned, and they always seem to have an inside track into the Suns organization.

Anyone know if Gambo and Ash mentioned the specifics of a Grizzlies trade? I only caught the tail end of that.

Ok I’m officially changing my pick of Marion/Beasley to Biedrins/Randolph/Turiaf/Bellinelli, if management is willing to take on only ongoing contracts, rather than expiring ones.

he hasn’t shown me much yet…unless he pulls a Tyson Chandler when he left the Bulls

Personally, I don’t think we should be considering any wing players, except as compliments to a trade centerpiece which is either (a) a great point guard, or (b) a big man who can average 10 rebounds and has at least more offensive skills than Ben Wallace.

http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/11838893/13515062

The Portland Trail Blazers have made a strong play for Amare Stoudemire, discussing a package that includes LaMarcus Aldridge, Jerryd Bayless, and Raef LeFrentz’s $12.7 million expiring contract, a person with direct knowledge of the talks told CBSSports.com Tuesday.

If this is true why wasn’t it accepted by Kerr yesterday?

Keys to a good negotiating: everybody has to know that Amare is not transferable.
In this sense, the Suns have made a big mistake by saying that all players were transferable except Nash.
2nd. Imagine you trade Amare and you get an expiring contract and a young talent; now think about players that the next season will go out: Nash, Hill, Barnes, Sacq and probably others. What we have? Nothing.
Dragic-Barbosa-Jrich-Tucker-Amundson-López-"young talent".
Is this a contender roster? In any way.
It sounds like a total rebuilt.
Clearly to trade Amare is a BIG MISTAKE. You’ve solved the financial issue but have destroyed the team.
The logic says that you have to trade the players will not be next year and moreover they are the higher salary in the team: Sacq and Nash.

I hope to understand

Why in the crap would Kerr turn down an offer that has Aldridge, Bayless, AND the expiring contract of LaFrenz? That’s the best deal we’re ever going to get unless Toronto spits up Bosh.

I’m wrong. Steve Francis is out of books next season.

Ya he dicho muchas veces que me cuesta explicarme en un idioma que no es el mío. He querido decir que Steve Francis, el año próximo, no estará en los libros de contabilidad y por lo tanto estarán por debajo de la luxury tax

what do you guys think about this?

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=1727198032143448829&teams=1721212121&te=&cash=

we would get 2 mill in cap relief this year and 8 mill off the books next year. we would keep yi and brook. we could then just try and dump shaq and sign boozer and artest in the off season. it would be ok but i don’t think they would do it cause sarver wants to trade everyone but still make the playoffs.

D Miz (Breakin Down The Game): Sup Thorpe. Chad Ford said there’s an offer on the table for Amare that they’re waiting until after the All-Star break (or let other offers trickle in). You know what it is?

David Thorpe: (12:12 PM ET ) Yes, I think I do, for the most part.

Matt (Carroll, Iowa): Any chance that with so many teams said to be in the running to trade for Amare that the Suns could end up with a more impressive haul then most experts are thinking? When its all said and done what is your prediction on what the Suns end up with?

David Thorpe: (12:12 PM ET ) I think they’ll get less than people expect, but enough to keep Phoenix relevant going forward.

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Dallas Mavericks

Incoming Players
Leandro Barbosa
Salary: $6,100,000 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 12.9 REB: 2.4 AST: 1.8 PER: 18.63

Mark Blount
Salary: $8,513,916 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 4.0 REB: 1.9 AST: 0.2 PER: 9.31

Shaquille O’Neal
Salary: $21,000,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 17.5 REB: 9.0 AST: 1.6 PER: 21.66

Dallas gets point guard that fits better gets shaq to make a run in playoffs and 21 mill off the books in 2010,the kidd trade never worked out for dallas
Outgoing Players: Josh Howard, Jason Kidd
 
Miami Heat

Incoming Players
Josh Howard
Salary: $9,945,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 17.9 REB: 5.0 AST: 1.7 PER: 16.26

Jermaine O’Neal
Salary: $21,372,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 13.7 REB: 7.0 AST: 1.6 PER: 16.35

Amare Stoudemire
Salary: $15,070,550 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 20.8 REB: 8.2 AST: 2.0 PER: 20.14

Matt Barnes
Salary: $797,581 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 9.5 REB: 5.2 AST: 2.1 PER: 11.26

Obtained with a trade exception
Miami gets alot of talent and an automatic fav in the east …. forget 2010 if you get rid of beasley we make a run now …
Outgoing Players: Mark Blount, Shawn Marion, Daequan Cook, Udonis Haslem, Michael Beasley
 
Phoenix Suns

Incoming Players
Daequan Cook
Salary: $1,273,200 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 10.3 REB: 2.5 AST: 1.1 PER: 11.30

Udonis Haslem
Salary: $6,575,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 10.8 REB: 8.4 AST: 1.3 PER: 13.45

Jason Kidd
Salary: $21,372,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 8.9 REB: 6.3 AST: 8.4 PER: 17.29

Michael Beasley
Salary: $4,314,960 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 13.2 REB: 5.2 AST: 0.9 PER: 15.20

Anthony Parker
Salary: $4,550,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 10.3 REB: 3.7 AST: 3.3 PER: 11.85

suns get rid of alot of money and they gain a kidd expiring contract and they get young talent plus a plus future miami 1st and 2 round pick
Outgoing Players: Leandro Barbosa, Jason Richardson, Shaquille O’Neal, Grant Hill, Amare Stoudemire, Matt Barnes
 
Toronto Raptors

Incoming Players
Shawn Marion
Salary: $17,810,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 12.0 REB: 8.7 AST: 1.8 PER: 15.78

Jason Richardson
Salary: $12,222,221 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 16.8 REB: 4.4 AST: 2.2 PER: 15.72

Grant Hill
Salary: $1,976,400 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 11.0 REB: 4.8 AST: 1.8 PER: 14.46

raptors get better with this trade get a scoring guard which they lack , would fit better with bosh and 17 mill off the books with marion contract…
Outgoing Players: Jermaine O’Neal, Anthony Parker

Wow, complex trade. I’d prefer to keep Barbosa and J-Rich, though certainly don’t mind picking up Beasley, Haslem, and Cook.

What does everyone else think of this trade:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=172755734603244&teams=20212121&te=&cash=

Stoudemire to Philadelphia for Mareese Speights, Thaddeus Young, and Andre Miller. Suns get a good backup PG until his contract expires; they get a talent young big man in Speights and another great young player in Thaddeus Young. Philly gets to pair Amare Stoudemire with Elton Brand. Have Brand move to the 5 for a more athletic center, and put Stoudemire at the four. Lou Williams is ready to take over as PG,

I didn’t like this one at first, but it’s growing on me. Probably because it appears the Miami trade is gone.

how about we don trade amare and trade nash for rose?, or how about no trade but put barbosa at starting 2 then move barnes to start 3 and bring rich and hill of bench, it would make sense cuss hill can act as a PG because hes the second best passer on the team, so either way the suns have to have hill or nash on the floor to win or go get a PG to back up nash