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Game Preview - Suns vs Mavs

  • Grant Hill called this game, "Our super bowl"
  • Matt Barnes called it a "Must win"
  • Steve Nash went so far as to tweet, "Big game tonight for the Suns!" adding to the comment yesterday that, "This is our playoffs for the next 5 or 6 weeks. We have to win at a very high rate if we want to get into the playoffs."

The key word in that quote? "IF"

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I don't doubt that Steve, Grant, Matt and the rest of the team WANT to get into the playoffs. Surprisingly, though, many fans and commentators aren't so sure.

Yesterday afternoon I happened to catch quite a detailed examination by KTAR Sports Radio host Dave Burns of why the Suns were better off by not making the playoffs. It's a discussion we've had here, as well.

I am not on the fence on this one. The Suns have to make the playoffs. Failure to do so, even if the result is another first round bounce, will be rightly seen as a massive step back for this organization.

Worried about roster moves this off-season that are only made for cost-savings reasons? Not making the playoff's will make that an almost certain reality.

More important than making or not making the playoffs, however, is answering The Big Quesion: Can Steve Nash and Shaquille O'Neal co-exist on the court together?

So far in the post Amare era (10 games w/ 4 wins and 6 losses) we have seen the Suns look good with Shaq on the floor without Nash. We've also seen a small ball line up of Nash, Barbosa, Richardson, Hill and Barnes go +8 in 11 minutes (h/t to Mr. Coro for that stat).

It's only been 7 games without Amare (3 before and 4 after Nash's ankle sprain) but we have yet to see a line up that includes Shaq and Nash playing together for signficant minutes where the on-court chemistry looked good and any rythym was established.

The defensive liability that is the Shaq/Nash pick and roll defensive combination MUST be countered by a dominant pairing on the other end.

Determining if this can work has got to be the most important question for the Suns front office to answer going into an off-season that will surely including trading a significant player - perhaps either Shaq or Nash.

Back to tonight's super bowl, must win, playoff game.

 

Star-divide

The Mavs and Suns are 14 and 14 since 2004 and have more similarities than I care to mention. On the court, the matchups that matter are....

  • The Mavs are the only team (perhaps ever in the history of all basketball anywhere in the known and unknown universe) that run a 4/5 high pick and roll with Dirk and Dampier
  • They also run the very rare 4/2 pick and roll with Dirk and Terry
  • Like most teams, their various pick and rolls are very effective against the Suns
  • Matt Barnes' work on Dirk and his ability to hit open shots and rebound will probably decide this game. Matt? Are you ready, Matt? I hope so
  • The Mavs will be without Josh Howard due to lingering ankle issues. That is mighty nice of them to show up in Phoenix without their #3 scorer and best wing defender
  • Grant Hill was the last starter on the court yesterday working on his shot. With no really match up for him to worry about (no disrespect to Devean "DON'T SEND ME TO THE NETS" George) Hill could/should be able to help on Dirk and do some damage in transition as well as the half court
  • Look for Dampier early in this game. He's famous for showing up occasionally. I don't have numbers to back this up, but I am fairly certain that the Mavs play much better when Damp plays well. Now that Diop is gone, there's not a lot of depth behind him.
  • If the Suns so choose, and who really knows these days, they can go to Shaq early and see if Shaq is going to have any competition in the paint. If lazy, uninterested Damp is here in Phx perhaps distracted by the great weather, then he will pick up some early fouls and give Shaq a chance to put up some monster numbers ... if the Suns decide to go that way, of course, and not try and win the game from the perimeter
  • Barbosa and Terry off the bench is another key. If these guys cancel each other out, the game should easily go our way. If Terry has about a +10 advantage on Barbosa, then it's time to consider looking for your fishing poles
  • Make no mistake - a loss tonight and the season is pretty much done. A win tonight and we move on in the sudden death tourney that is the next 5 or 6 weeks

Speaking of playoff races, Mavs Money Ball did up a GREAT schedule comparison that I am stealing (shhh, don't tell).

Phoenix Dallas
OPP OPP% Against Own b2b Opp b2b OPP OPP% Against Own b2b Opp b2b
DAL .603 1-1 @ PHX .540 1-1
CLE .790 0-1 @ POR .635 2-0 x
OKC .270 3-0 @ GSW .333 1-0
@ GSW .333 1-1 x @ LAL .794 0-2
PHI .492 0-1 x DET .516 1-0
WAS .234 1-0 x @ ATL .563 1-0
DEN .615 1-1 @ IND .431 1-0 x
UTA .635 1-1 x GSW .333 1-0 x
@ POR .635 2-1 x DEN .615 0-3
@ UTA .635 1-1 @ CLE .790 0-1
@ SAC .222 2-0 x @ MIN .286 2-0
HOU .646 0-2 MIA .540 1-0 x
SAC .222 2-0 @ MEM .258 2-1
@ DAL .603 1-1 PHX .540 1-1
@ NO .629 0-2 x UTA .635 1-2
@ MEM .258 2-0 NO .629 0-2
@ MIN .286 1-1 x @ NO .629 0-2
MEM .258 2-0 x MIN .286 2-0 x
GSW .333 1-1 HOU .646 1-2
8 road 16 vs West 0.458 22-15 4 5 10 road 14 vs West 0.526 18-17 4 1

From the look of this, the schedule is on our favor. The winning % of our opponents if .458 vs .526 and our record against the remaining teams is 22-15 while the Mavs are 18-17.

They do of course have a 4 game head start from this point but we can cut two games off that with wins tonight and on April 5th.

Enjoy the playoffs. They start tonight for the Suns and hopefully we will see a playoff worthy performance from the home team. I am still betting on the 8th seed being ours.

 

 

 

 

 

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Everygame at this point

must be viewed as a must win. The way I see it. It is a bigger failure to not make playoffs vs. being bounced in the first round by last years champ contender. Especially making playoffs in the West.

by Gorilla Game on Mar 10, 2009 3:09 PM MST reply actions  

I believe

apart from common opponents we play OKC, PHI, WAS, UTA, SAC, SAC, and MEM during which time they play LAL, DET, ATL, IND, MIA, NOH, and MIN….!!!

Lets go Suns!!!

Whats up doc?

by RottPhiler on Mar 10, 2009 3:14 PM MST reply actions  

nice job.

Nice post Stan.

I personally like the Suns chances. Statistically it is a good bet. At least we are working towards something at this point in time. We could be a team in which this part of the season is worthless. We really do have something to be excited about. We are still in this race.

" I'm going to root for the Suns when they are winning or losing, but when losing I will point and blame the failing economy on the Referees."- Me.

by antiw0rm on Mar 10, 2009 3:42 PM MST reply actions  

Agreed - season on the line tonight

A loss tonight virtually ends the season, short of acl tears to the entire Mavs starting lineup, half their bench, and maybe even Cuban.

A win means the Suns can conceivably scrap their way into a first round matchup with the Penguin, Mamba, and the rest of the Hollywood liberal elite.

We’ve heard the phrase “disastrous stretch” way too often this season, but last weeks 0-fer roadie absolutely has to be the last one if the Suns are going to make the tourney. Woo woo let’s hear it for living on the edge!

by SoCalSun on Mar 10, 2009 4:33 PM MST reply actions  

Nash stop shooting-please!

Let LB play more point tonight and we have a great shot of winning. Give Shaq his touches and he will deliver just as he does every time. As the big fella says, " I’m the most consistent player of all time."

by shaqisabeast on Mar 10, 2009 5:12 PM MST reply actions  

You must not have seen the Rockets game

Yao dominated Shaq on both ends.

But Shaq should get his touches tonight, that’s true.

by hcblankscreen on Mar 10, 2009 5:14 PM MST up reply actions  

Yao = 6 for 16
Shaq = 8 for 12
I definitely would not say that is domination, I just do not understand when he is shooting that type of percentages why he does not get more touches with Steve Nash in the game.

by shaqisabeast on Mar 10, 2009 5:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Uhh

Yao 13 Reb, 6 Ast, 2 stl, 2 blk, 2 TO
Shaq 5 Reb, 2 Ast, 1 Stl, 2 blk, 3 TO

That’s pretty dominant if you ask me.

by hcblankscreen on Mar 10, 2009 5:22 PM MST up reply actions  

Shaq choked at Houston

But it was not Yao. He just laid a brick.

April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?

by Hawk42 on Mar 10, 2009 9:01 PM MST up reply actions  

In looking at the Mavs’ schedule/results, I noticed that they haven’t won a road game against any Western Conference team since they beat the Clippers back on Dec. 28. (The 9 losses were against Memphis, Phx, Sacramento, Denver, Utah, Houston, S.A., OK City and N.O.) Here’s hoping that trend continues tonight.

Oh and no orange unis tonight. Thank God.

by TwinnerA on Mar 10, 2009 5:20 PM MST reply actions  

I respect your opinion, but that to me is not dominant at all especially when Shaq had more points of four less shots. My point is when Shaq gets his touches he makes the whole team better and plays way better on defense ( not saying I think this is how it should be). Nash shoots the ball 27 times and has a great offensive game, but turns around and gives a very average PG 30 points. I promise LB would have maybe given up 15 against him.

by shaqisabeast on Mar 10, 2009 5:29 PM MST reply actions  

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