in retrospect, how steve kerr is the dumbest GM EVER
you may think im just disappointed that the suns unofficially put the last nail in their coffin with regards to the playoffs. maybe i am. but since i cant look forward to the playoffs, i will look back, and try to figure out what the hell happened.
before steve kerr pulled the shaq for marion trade, phoenix was the number one seed in the west. that was a little over a year ago. now, we are the number 9th seed, 5 1/2 games away from the playoffs with 20 games to go. tsk tsk tsk. so what happened? a humble, unprofessional analysis of steve kerr's bone-headed moves:
1. the kurt thomas salary dump
we traded 2 draft picks and kurt thomas to the seattle supersonics (now thunder) for.... a conditional second round draft pick. i understand that we needed to get rid of kurt thomas's contract, but really? we added two 1st round draft picks? lets not forget that kurt thomas's contract was an EXPIRING contract. san antonio later gave the sonics a draft pick for kurt thomas, then resigned him after the season ended, obviously showing that he did have value. why did kerr feel the need to throw in draft picks? lets not forget that our 2010 pick is UNPROTECTED. kerr must have assumed that there was no way in hell we wouldnt make the playoffs in 2010, but he underestimated his ability to fu ck up a team.
2. shaq for marion
i agree that phoenix wasnt going to win a championship with the way it was presently constructed. we needed an inside presence undoubtedly. but shaq?? first of, this trade was pulled when shaq was injured, and marion was in his prime. sure, marion had a bad attitude, but seriously, shaq? we knew it was a longshot that shaq would be healthy (we're very lucky this year he is) but this trade was way too much of a gamble. shaq did not fit our run n gun system (d' antoni was our coach at the time). i know d' antoni convinced kerr to make the trade, but he is the GM, not the puppet. he cant pin this on d' antoni, a coach is a coach, a GM is a GM.
3. driving d' antoni away and hiring terry porter
maybe d' antoni really did leave because of his large ego. fine. i wont blame kerr for that. but hiring terry porter? a small list of candidates who were unemployed at that time: jeff van gundy, rick carlisle, avery johnson, flip saunders, mark jackson. and he hires terry porter? the assistant coach of the detroit pistons, who had a losing record as head coach of the bucks, having been fired as head coach after his team, which was expected to make the playoffs, finished with a 30-52 record? a coach who literally had coached only two seasons, should handle the egos of shaq, nash, amare, hill? brilliant.
4. drafting robin lopez and goran dragic
robin lopez may pan out eventually, and i admit we did need a back-up big man, but some other players he could have drafted include: mareese speights, alexis ajinca, courtney lee, mario chalmers. still, i wont blame kerr for this. he chose the best big man available, thats ok with me. but goran dragic?? did you know that kerr gave san antonio a million dollars to swap draft picks, bought out goran dragic's contract, and payed him the highest salary EVER for a 2nd round draft pick? GORAN DRAGIC. Disgusting. no wonder sarver wants to cut costs, kerr literally spent about 4 million this season on goran dragic (buyout, signing, swapping of picks)!
5. trading raja bell and boris diaw for jason richardson
nothing against richardson, but werent we committed to defense? so we trade our best defensive player and our only back-up big man (lopez was already sucking badly at that time) for another wingman who is a somewhat average (and im being generous) defender? we lose depth at the forward position and saturate ourselves with wings because....?
6. firing terry porter HALFWAY into the season
the only good move of kerr was correcting his past mistake,but HALFWAY into the season? what a douche bag. what does kerr think, that systems are learned in a week (all-star break)? way too dumb. i wanted terry porter fired, i admit that, but not this late!
in retrospect, i firmly believe that kerr is the dumbest GM ever, and yes, i know who isaiah thomas is.
there is no other way to put it: kerr killed our suns.
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Agreed.
I don’t think if our players had been playing the best basketball in the league individually that we could have done anything with this season. The hypocritical actions of the front office is what killed this franchise. In order to play at a level in the magnitude expected by Suns fans the players need focus, direction, and above all leadership. All of these things had mixed signals throughout the year based on the actions you stated in your post. But this is something we have been harping on all year and is I think widely excepted as some form of truth and over all reason.
" I'm going to root for the Suns when they are winning or losing, but when losing I will point and blame the failing economy on the Referees."- Me.
thanks
its a shame for the fans and the players. anyway, heres to a fast rebuild. hopefully we can get to where the blazers are sooner rather than later.
Nailed it.
Steve Nash, the league's MVP, is a longhaired Canadian who spoke out against the war in Iraq and reads The Communist Manifesto. Quentin Richardson declared after a game-winning shot that it "was like Hamlet. It was a suspense thriller, and I killed them at the end." Amare Stoudemire, when asked to comment on a 22-point third quarter against the Kings, said, "I've got a tendency to jump over some guys' heads and throw it down."
KT, Lopez Dragic I agree with. And of course letting D’antoni leave was ridiculous.
Shaq for Marion was a good move. Assuming the Suns shopped around and took in all their options, which you kind of have to think they did, right? Marion isn’t a max contract guy, and that’s what he would have demanded from Phoenix. That would have completely demolished the rebuild. It was the right move. Either that or we keep Marion and get nothing after this season. Gross. And I am so sick of people thinking Shaq doesn’t fit into a running system. He does the same way Kareem did. Rebound, outlet to half court wait 5 seconds and lumber down the court. But Nash doesn’t know what an outlet pass is, so it doesn’t work with the both of them.
Boris, Bell, and D’antoni all tie together for me. Bell and Boris for J-rich and Dudley. It seems the entire city was against this trade. I don’t see it. This trade was brilliant. J-rich is our JJ. Dudley is the exact type of guy D’antoni needed. I think D’antoni would have this team poised for a WCF with the Lakers (assuming Amar’e is healthy). The problem is, the front office doesn’t pull that trade if D’antoni is still around because there’s no way he gives up Boris or Bell. But Jrich brings back the perfect balance of running. Nash couldn’t run with Bell, Bell just doesn’t run. With Shaq instead of Marion we clearly slowed down because now Bell and Shaq don’t run well. To be a strong running team you need four guys. Three just doesn’t cut it. Jrich can shoot, run, dunk, and pass. That’s a combination of Bell and Boris. Awesome trade, too bad coach Mike wasn’t here to show you how amazing this was. And too bad Amar’e got hurt when coach Alvin was about to show you.
I don’t want to talk about Porter, he’s the dumbest man alive.
i get your point about shaq and run n gun
so yeah, i somewhat agree. still, the trade sucked because it was too much of a gamble.shaq was unhealthy and everything had to go right for it to work. and if nash didnt know how to throw an outlet pass, why did kerr trade for shaq or why didnt he trade nash? thats still on him. he’s the gm, he should know his players strengths and weaknesses and find complementary players.
ditto
Great minds think alike. Ryan, take a look at my post near the bottom of the ‘Shaq denies rumors’ thread. I did this before seeing yours. LOL
April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?
lol
great minds do think alike. :) unfortunately, i could only discuss what killed the suns during kerr’s time as gm, coz i didnt follow so much when i was younger. great point. i should have included the ridiculous trades of draft picks. kerr did that right? can you imagine if we had rudy fernandez? grrrrr
Kerr interview
I listened to the interview PStan posted and about puked. What fantasy world is this guy living in? Go back to the Spurs, you fool!
April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?
When Kerr
costs the team millions with a sexual harassment lawsuit, you’ll have my vote. Not that I don’t think he’s a moron, but at least he’s a moron that can keep it in his pants.
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Not to mention
Isaiah Thomas signed complete non-entities like Jerome James, Eddie Curry, Stephon Marbury etc., and all of them to contracts that make me sick to my stomach. Thomas brought levels of suck that Kerr is only scratching the surface of. Let’s hope that Kerr resigns or gets his head on straight before we end up going down the same road.
"I can shoot with my left hand, I can shoot with my right hand, I'm amphibious"
Are you a Knicks fan?
Why should what they do make you sick?
April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?
When Kerr came in
The Suns had almost nowhere to go but down
kerr killed our suns.
Which ones?
I agree he’s a primary player in the current mess — however, I really don’t foresee the Suns, as an organization, becoming the Clippers. He quickened the death of the 7SOL Suns. To says he’s completely killed the Suns is prognostication. Time may bear you out, but he may also get the Suns back to 55 wins in a year or two.
Mmmmm ... Guinness
I have evidence...

Here you can see The Phoenix Suns being stabbed repeatedly on the steps of the Roman Senate, and who’s on the right, ready to deliver the killing blow?
Steve Kerr.
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Fantasy, Jsun, fantasy
What kind of guy gives away two unprotected #1 picks and a serviceable big man for nothing except cap relief? Especially when next year’s pick to OKC could conceivably be quite high? This team won’t see 55 wins for at least 5 years.
April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?
55? Too high?
Maybe I was too optimistic.
My point, however, is that Kerr’s legacy will — in all fairness — count on what happens next. By the time he took over, the window was closing. I agree he helped push the window down and paint around the sill, but I will give him a chance to find another window.
Mmmmm ... Guinness
Not only paint around the sill
but he left the shutters open, and there’s bird droppings piling up.
April 29, 2008 Total Eclipse of the Sun. Is the sky falling?
i wont argue that we had a chance at the championship
i know we didnt. but that doesnt mean if atlanta has no chance in hell of winning the championship their gm can sink their franchise into the ground and be excused just because they had no chance of winning it all. worse, kerr not only destroyed our present, but he hindered our rebuilding process by trading away our draft pick to oklahoma
Teske22
And I am so sick of people thinking Shaq doesn’t fit into a running system. He does the same way Kareem did. Rebound, outlet to half court wait 5 seconds and lumber down the court. But Nash doesn’t know what an outlet pass is, so it doesn’t work with the both of them.
Well put. It’s good to see that at least one Suns fan can recognize that. Nash is not perfect (ah, blasphemy!)
"I’m tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok." ~Shaq
by Max_in_Missouri on Mar 12, 2009 2:01 PM MDT reply actions
Seriously?
And all this time I though Nash could walk on water. Props again for the sweeping generalizations.
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"I’m tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok." ~Shaq
by Max_in_Missouri on Mar 12, 2009 3:43 PM MDT up reply actions
I guess my patented
sense of sarcasm doesn’t work on the Internet.
"I can shoot with my left hand, I can shoot with my right hand, I'm amphibious"
Here's the thing about sarcasm on the internet
No ability for inflection or change of tone of voice. Also, there are no facial cues to read or other sorts of body language.
So, you’re pretty much hoping that whatever you say is so out of left field that any rational person would take it for sarcasm.
Mmmmm ... Guinness
Probably didn't sense....
that my response was sarcasm as well (I’m not being sarcastic)
"I’m tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok." ~Shaq
by Max_in_Missouri on Mar 12, 2009 6:19 PM MDT up reply actions
Not far enough out of left field?
Hmm let’s try this: Shaq is a closet homosexual. To hide his secret shame, he accuses Chris Bosh of being a drag queen. Amare’s eye injury is a result of Shaq trying to skull-f**k him. Am I on the right track? To show I’m not hating on Shaq, I’ll think of a few more for the others later.
"I can shoot with my left hand, I can shoot with my right hand, I'm amphibious"
Amare wishes!
Besides, even Amare didn’t want to, if Shaq wanted to Skull-f*ck Amare, I don’t think there is a thing Amare could do about it
"I’m tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok." ~Shaq
by Max_in_Missouri on Mar 12, 2009 6:22 PM MDT up reply actions
I agree
However the picks that Dantoni/Colangalo/Sarver pissed away didn’t help either.
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